Penis rubbed against anus

[Michaelfern]

Past sunday I fingered and rubbed my penis against a transsexual’s bare anus. I had put some oil to avoid friction, there by some gap might have got created during fingering which might have helped my penis slide in. She was lying on her back while I was rubbing from her back side and also once she was lying straight and then I tried between her legs. My penis must have touched inner circumference of her a**hole but surely didn’t go deep in. How risky is that for HIV?

[Michaelfern]

Pls do answer the penetration part

[Kirstie_MHModerator]

No one here can answer whether you penetrated or not - none of us were there.  You are the only person who can determine whether you feel you had a risk, no matter how slight.  If you wish to calm your fears, you can take a 4th generation test at 28 days post-event (or any time beyond), or a standard antibody test at 12 weeks.   Our members are not able to advise you further than this.

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[mike_no]

I am not sure what sliding in to anus exactly is. As far as I understand, even to penetrate into a vagina, it takes an effort. It can't be just slid inside of it accidentally. I suppose it's far more difficult to insert your penis in to an anus.

It very unlikely that your penis slid inside her anus. Also, in order for HIV to be transmitted, proper penetrations are necessary. It doesn't seem you would have penetrated into her 2 times with what you are describing. If that didn't happen, it's not a risk. Please move on, you have OCD, you don't have to be a perfectionist here.

This is an HIV prevention forum, you don't have a concern specific to HIV, please see a therapist for your OCD.

[mike_no]

Please go back to read the initial response. DragonPulse has provided you with detailed information on HIV risks.

Nothing that you have described here puts you at a risk for HIV contraction. Since you seem to be very anxious and have issues accepting the truth, you must see a therapist to over come such irrational thoughts.

This forum is specific to HIV prevention, you don't seem to have a concern that fits here.

[Michaelfern]

Let me brief you my exact situation:
When i first did it with her I didn’t feel any fear bcoz I thought I had gone with the intention of rubbing her anus & that’s what I probably did.

But a few days back I went to this obstetrician coz I didn’t know any good std doctor & he told me that i possess risk with this activity and I should retest again after 6 months, after my initial test which was obviously negative

Ever since then I am doing that practical on my anus with my fingers using oil & all to see if it’s penetrating or not. And in some ways that i feel it could’ve gone, it hits the almost boundary to inner part of anus

And now I’m troubled by this thought. That’s why I feel if someone could clear me up on harmful penetration then that would be great for me

Anyways you guys are doing a great job of relieving nerves of some of the people

[Michaelfern]

My only concern as the hole of the *** widens die to constant up down rubbing, I hit the part of anus which is pretty much inside even with simple rubbing. What are the chances of it going inside to be deemed as penetration?

[AnxiousNoMore]

This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore  testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.  
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
Penetration is noticed.

[AnxiousNoMore]

I meant penetration is noticeable so your imagination is getting the better of your reasoning. Move on to reality and forget this non-event.

[Michaelfern]

Sorry, but didn’t get your second msg

[AnxiousNoMore]

Penetration is noticeable but your imagination is pretending she and you wouldn't notice.  Likely she isn't dumb enough to expose herself to hiv risk by letting you penetrate.

[Michaelfern]

So you’re saying that a slide-in anus circumference shouldn’t mean much & I am just exaggerating it in my head.

[DragonPulse]

If there is not a penetration, there is not a risk of HIV.

The only ways HIV is spread are:
-Unprotected anal/vaginal penetrations.
-Sharing needles to inject drugs.
-Mother to child.

You didn't do any of them, so there is nothing to worry about.

All the best.

[Michaelfern]

Ok, but what about like touching the inner part of anus as it widens with my penis?

[Michaelfern]

Hi guys, can any expert pls answer here? Help appreciated