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Blood Reject ed? HIV from oral ?
Doc, I was on this site about 8 months ago asking for advice on receving oral sex from sex worker . You had mention no testing need it, but at 11 weeks from the exposure I took OraQuick or Rapid Testing, which was Negative for HIV. Now, red cross won't take my blood and won't tell me, they keep telling me to see doctor. Was I a late converter ?
Suggestion ?
Thanks
jay
Suggestion ?
Thanks
jay
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
In the US, most blood banks do not do rapid HIV tests, except when collecting blood for immediate emergency transfusion. Probably it was just a quick test for anemia.
Let's hold off on additional questions until you get the formal word about your test result or other reasons you were rejected as a donor. Until then, it's all speculation and not helpful to either you or other forum users.
Let's hold off on additional questions until you get the formal word about your test result or other reasons you were rejected as a donor. Until then, it's all speculation and not helpful to either you or other forum users.
Can anyone tell me what type of test they perform on site while your sitting there. Do they do Rapid HIV test or just anemia test ?
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
I already said that. See the second sentence of my reply.
Thank you doctor.
This easy my mind. one more question, my risk was oral sex receiving and had 11 week Rapid Testing at the doctors office and it was negative, do you believe that test to be accurate at 11 weeks ?
Thank you
This easy my mind. one more question, my risk was oral sex receiving and had 11 week Rapid Testing at the doctors office and it was negative, do you believe that test to be accurate at 11 weeks ?
Thank you
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
You had several helpful responses (below) before I saw your question. The bottom line is that it is very unlikely you were rejected because of a positive HIV test, both because of the low risk nature of your potential exposure and the negative rapid test you already had. As the others replied, there are plenty of other, more likely explanations.
While I cannot speak to all blood donation services, I believe that most have similar policies about informing rejected donors. At Puget Sound Blood Center, based in Seattle but serving all of western Washington State, an in-house counseling staff informs donors with unexpectedly positive blood tests (for HIV or anything else) of those results. (I phoned them to determine their policies before writing this reply.) They would never tell someone just to "see your doctor" without telling them the reason, and they do not believe any US blood banks would do so. If you think about it, that makes no sense. A doctor obviously need to know the reason for rejection -- so despite the initial word you had from the blood bank, at least your doctor can call and learn the details.
Perpahs more to the point, some people are excluded for reasons other a new blood test abnormality. For example,someone might have been found to be unacceptable at the time of a previous attempted donation, either because of risk history, medical history, or a positive blood test of any kind. At re-registration, the computer would show a flag saying something like "unacceptable" without giving the reason. At the blood center itself, all this would happen before blood was actually collected, but with a workplace or other off-site donation, this would not happen until the blood arrives at the center.
So your rejection may have nothing to do with a currently abnormal test for anything, but the clerical staff might not know the specific reason, if you previously have ever been rejected as a donor, or if at any other time you acknowledged any theoretical risk factor, that might be all it was. If you checked a box that acknowledged your oral event with the CSW, that might be it.
Most likely, you can learn more details by a calm and reasoned call back to the blood center. If not, see your doctor and expect that s/he will be able to do that. Either way, in the meantime I see no serious chance that a positive HIV test is the reason, assuming there aren't other HIV risk factors you haven't described.
I hope this helps. Best wishes-- HHH, MD
While I cannot speak to all blood donation services, I believe that most have similar policies about informing rejected donors. At Puget Sound Blood Center, based in Seattle but serving all of western Washington State, an in-house counseling staff informs donors with unexpectedly positive blood tests (for HIV or anything else) of those results. (I phoned them to determine their policies before writing this reply.) They would never tell someone just to "see your doctor" without telling them the reason, and they do not believe any US blood banks would do so. If you think about it, that makes no sense. A doctor obviously need to know the reason for rejection -- so despite the initial word you had from the blood bank, at least your doctor can call and learn the details.
Perpahs more to the point, some people are excluded for reasons other a new blood test abnormality. For example,someone might have been found to be unacceptable at the time of a previous attempted donation, either because of risk history, medical history, or a positive blood test of any kind. At re-registration, the computer would show a flag saying something like "unacceptable" without giving the reason. At the blood center itself, all this would happen before blood was actually collected, but with a workplace or other off-site donation, this would not happen until the blood arrives at the center.
So your rejection may have nothing to do with a currently abnormal test for anything, but the clerical staff might not know the specific reason, if you previously have ever been rejected as a donor, or if at any other time you acknowledged any theoretical risk factor, that might be all it was. If you checked a box that acknowledged your oral event with the CSW, that might be it.
Most likely, you can learn more details by a calm and reasoned call back to the blood center. If not, see your doctor and expect that s/he will be able to do that. Either way, in the meantime I see no serious chance that a positive HIV test is the reason, assuming there aren't other HIV risk factors you haven't described.
I hope this helps. Best wishes-- HHH, MD
on site is even more definite that they did not do on site tesitng.
You may however have been previously defered and they were notified within the hour that you were not to give. In this case, please call american red cross and they can give you further information. It is better than having me guess at what it could be when they could just tell you.
You may however have been previously defered and they were notified within the hour that you were not to give. In this case, please call american red cross and they can give you further information. It is better than having me guess at what it could be when they could just tell you.
No, I am sorry, it was through work.. You know those donation things that comes to your work. No, I had RapidTest using a blood previously at 11 weeks and it was negative.
Do they generally do on site RapidTesting ?
Do they generally do on site RapidTesting ?
I think you are just panicking and believe me I know what that is like.
Here is what you can do to find out. Red Cross has a medical line you can call to find out why you were defered. If they told you immediately after you donated, then it was because of an answer that you gave or iron. No Red Cross site tests products on site. and if it was an oral test (which it was not) you would have had to put it in your mouth, not your blood.
Red Cross tests for Hep C, west Nile, Hiv 1 and 2 and all sorts of other things (you can look up what all they test for by searching online) They test for antibodies of hiv and the virus itself (this test can be sensitive to false positives, but it is rare)
It is my understanding that @ 11 weeks your negative result is pretty conclusive ecspecially from oral...but that is something the doc will have to answer for you. He has however in several of the historical forums is you search. I know it helps to hear it from him though.
Here is what you can do to find out. Red Cross has a medical line you can call to find out why you were defered. If they told you immediately after you donated, then it was because of an answer that you gave or iron. No Red Cross site tests products on site. and if it was an oral test (which it was not) you would have had to put it in your mouth, not your blood.
Red Cross tests for Hep C, west Nile, Hiv 1 and 2 and all sorts of other things (you can look up what all they test for by searching online) They test for antibodies of hiv and the virus itself (this test can be sensitive to false positives, but it is rare)
It is my understanding that @ 11 weeks your negative result is pretty conclusive ecspecially from oral...but that is something the doc will have to answer for you. He has however in several of the historical forums is you search. I know it helps to hear it from him though.
What 14 test do they run ?
No serious, just said " we simply can't take the blood , " than I asked if it was because of Iron is low, then they said" No , just see a doctor, nothing like that ". That is it. This was all within a hour.
I answer the questions as I always do. Took the blood in hour they told me they can't take it.
I am also confused was the 11 week test of Rapid Test not accurate ?
I see what your saying and that's what I would imagin they would do and not leave me in the dark, just said see a doc.
No letters or nothing, same day in hour , I was rejected. Maybe they tested on there Oral Quick Rapid Test and it came back Positive ? Maybe the letter is coming ?
I answer the questions as I always do. Took the blood in hour they told me they can't take it.
I am also confused was the 11 week test of Rapid Test not accurate ?
I see what your saying and that's what I would imagin they would do and not leave me in the dark, just said see a doc.
No letters or nothing, same day in hour , I was rejected. Maybe they tested on there Oral Quick Rapid Test and it came back Positive ? Maybe the letter is coming ?
You didnt give enough information on what the red cross told you. They dont just say no you cannot donate. There are several reasons the red cross will defer you.
you answered a question that puts you at risk.
your iron is low
it is too soon since your last donation
or they called/sent you a letter saying that your last donation had positive test results from one of the 14 tests they run and you should see a doctor for accurate results. They would tell you what you were positive for however and if it was HIVm they would ask you to come in and tell you and ask you to see your doctor.
They would not keep you in the dark as you are suggesting
you answered a question that puts you at risk.
your iron is low
it is too soon since your last donation
or they called/sent you a letter saying that your last donation had positive test results from one of the 14 tests they run and you should see a doctor for accurate results. They would tell you what you were positive for however and if it was HIVm they would ask you to come in and tell you and ask you to see your doctor.
They would not keep you in the dark as you are suggesting
Other than that, I am very healthy ,no sugar, blood pressure, nothing... I had put this behind me and now, I can't seem to donate blood. Can this still be HIV ? After this, I had no other exposure.
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