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Window period ref
These are the % of testing HIV anitbodies
1 week test：22.6%
2 week test：53.775%
3 week test：84.1%;
4 week test：98.4%
5 week test：99.45%
6 week test：99.994%
7 week test：99.99986%
8 week test：99.999999979%
This information is base on ELISA 3rd genaration
So I think why Dr HHH and Dr Hook is confident on 6 to 8 weeks test
1 week test：22.6%
2 week test：53.775%
3 week test：84.1%;
4 week test：98.4%
5 week test：99.45%
6 week test：99.994%
7 week test：99.99986%
8 week test：99.999999979%
This information is base on ELISA 3rd genaration
So I think why Dr HHH and Dr Hook is confident on 6 to 8 weeks test
YEaqh hook says 4 week 85 90% and drh says at least 90%.Would be nicew though i have a 31 day negative
I think we are using 4th genaration now, so it should take less time to detect the anitbodies for most healthy people. if you know cocktail method to treat aids, then you should know Dr. Ho.
Then you may heard a lady who work with Dr.Ho for 8 years. Her name is in Chinese, so I don't list out. She is 67 years old now and just retired this year. She is one of the leader in HIV field and she is the one who discover to test HIV anitbodies from urine. Magic Johnson's HIV was check by her.
Anyway, she claim that window period is 2 to 6 weeks.With the modern test. I believe in her, cause she has a lot experience and more than thousands patients. So 6 weeks, I know I am ALMOST safe.
Hope this information can make people worry less.
Also, she said the longer the syptoms the less chance it's caused by HIV
Then you may heard a lady who work with Dr.Ho for 8 years. Her name is in Chinese, so I don't list out. She is 67 years old now and just retired this year. She is one of the leader in HIV field and she is the one who discover to test HIV anitbodies from urine. Magic Johnson's HIV was check by her.
Anyway, she claim that window period is 2 to 6 weeks.With the modern test. I believe in her, cause she has a lot experience and more than thousands patients. So 6 weeks, I know I am ALMOST safe.
Hope this information can make people worry less.
Also, she said the longer the syptoms the less chance it's caused by HIV
I was very interested in your posting. Does this lady work for the CDC? what does she says about 3 months and the 6 months window period? thanks?
Where did you get this info from. Do you have a weblink? This would be very helpful for all forum users if you could post the link.
I want to post the link but it's all in Chinese, if you guys can read chinese I don't mind to post.
Some more information, this woman is the most famous one in China about HIV, she has been working in US for many years and go back to China to control China's HIV spread. Also because of her, most China hosiptal consider 6 weeks and 8 weeks conclusive. Also one very interesting information, a HIV control hosiptal in China who has more than 770000 HIV cases say that none 8 weeks negative turns to positive in the past 17 years. There are too many informations, I just can't list them all also my english is not that good.
Also to abathen, she said 6 weeks is already a bit long (most healthly people have anitbodies before 6 weeks and modern HIV test can test them out )and 3 months is like golden rule but she said people who said 6 months just don't want to take any responsibility.
I just want people who over worry can take a rest. take a test at 6 weeks or 8 weeks if your result is negative, then in most cases you will test negative in three months.
One more little thing which I don't know if it that truth. A doctor who study outside China said when he was having test in his exam, the answer for window period in the test paper is 5 weeks. (I think it's for normal people)
Anyway, Teak's three months theory is not wrong at all, it's like 0.001% still a chance but most people don't need to count it, that's what I thought.
if you guys still have questions, try to ask and I'll see if it the article have explained.
Some more information, this woman is the most famous one in China about HIV, she has been working in US for many years and go back to China to control China's HIV spread. Also because of her, most China hosiptal consider 6 weeks and 8 weeks conclusive. Also one very interesting information, a HIV control hosiptal in China who has more than 770000 HIV cases say that none 8 weeks negative turns to positive in the past 17 years. There are too many informations, I just can't list them all also my english is not that good.
Also to abathen, she said 6 weeks is already a bit long (most healthly people have anitbodies before 6 weeks and modern HIV test can test them out )and 3 months is like golden rule but she said people who said 6 months just don't want to take any responsibility.
I just want people who over worry can take a rest. take a test at 6 weeks or 8 weeks if your result is negative, then in most cases you will test negative in three months.
One more little thing which I don't know if it that truth. A doctor who study outside China said when he was having test in his exam, the answer for window period in the test paper is 5 weeks. (I think it's for normal people)
Anyway, Teak's three months theory is not wrong at all, it's like 0.001% still a chance but most people don't need to count it, that's what I thought.
if you guys still have questions, try to ask and I'll see if it the article have explained.
Today, I talked to CDC again. I asked can healthy people produce antibodies after 3 months, he said yes! CDC really makes me crazy! I asked the teak's statement about the drug users, etc.. they rejected again. One side : U.S.A Governed Organization The other side: All western countries. It is unbelievable!
From my understand there is always no 100% in this world. I have even read a news about a guy confirmed HIV positve and turns into negative. But 99.9999999999999999999% people won't have anitbodies like him. So there is always a chance. 3 months turns positive in normal people, maybe just 1 in few millions, so I won't take it that serious, even Teak will say 3 months negative, you are safe. If you are that 1 in few millions, I will say you are just bad luck.
Consider there is always chance a plane fall on your house, but I don't think you will beware of that when you are sleeping
Consider there is always chance a plane fall on your house, but I don't think you will beware of that when you are sleeping
I think the doc must be Dr. HHH right?
Reading his reply always makes you feel better
Dr. Hook usually don't reply if you have further questions. haha
What's your symptoms? I have the same case with you test a bit early 5 1/2 weeks. I wore condom and I am still very worry and it just drive me crazy. So I understand how bad people feel when they are waiting for the window period.
If I am CDC, I will tell people 1 year is conclusive, because I will never be wrong.
I read a post in this forum saying some Australia hopistal saying 6 weeks conclusive and Dr HHH reply and saying that guy should trust them because Australia is the best country in the world to due with HIV
So I believe the world is making a change, but if I am goverment don't move is the best move.
I fully understand CDC's point of view.
Put it in the other way, why Elisa have 4th generation if the anitboies can only be detect close to 3 months anyway? Elisa can always stay in the 1st generation right? Hope my english is not difficult for people to understand
Reading his reply always makes you feel better
Dr. Hook usually don't reply if you have further questions. haha
What's your symptoms? I have the same case with you test a bit early 5 1/2 weeks. I wore condom and I am still very worry and it just drive me crazy. So I understand how bad people feel when they are waiting for the window period.
If I am CDC, I will tell people 1 year is conclusive, because I will never be wrong.
I read a post in this forum saying some Australia hopistal saying 6 weeks conclusive and Dr HHH reply and saying that guy should trust them because Australia is the best country in the world to due with HIV
So I believe the world is making a change, but if I am goverment don't move is the best move.
I fully understand CDC's point of view.
Put it in the other way, why Elisa have 4th generation if the anitboies can only be detect close to 3 months anyway? Elisa can always stay in the 1st generation right? Hope my english is not difficult for people to understand
also I read a post saying Elisa 3rd generation is more sensitive then the 4th one, because 4th added the p24 thing. but don't know is that truth or not. I really hope some HIV expert or some people who work in a lab can give some comment.
also I read a post saying Elisa 3rd generation is more sensitive then the 4th one, because 4th added the p24 thing. but don't know is that truth or not. I really hope some HIV expert or some people who work in a lab can give some comment.
also I read a post saying Elisa 3rd generation is more sensitive then the 4th one, because 4th added the p24 thing. but don't know is that truth or not. I really hope some HIV expert or some people who work in a lab can give some comment.
Your reply really is comforting to read, even though it cant be verified and its not the official guide. The REAL problem is CDC's numbers; 97% for 3 months and 99.98% for 6 months. These figures are WAY off from your chinese doctor's figures!!!. 3 % means in every 100, 3 people will still need to test at 6 months!!! and what's that 0.02% even testing at 6 months?
Does anybody know how they actually derive such figures?
I would like to see the link to the chinese doctor's statements, maybe I could get a friend to translate it.
Does anybody know how they actually derive such figures?
I would like to see the link to the chinese doctor's statements, maybe I could get a friend to translate it.
No the 4 generation ELISA doesn't have a P24 test in it.
abathen, the 3% is for those people who don't use condoms consistently and condom failures.
abathen, the 3% is for those people who don't use condoms consistently and condom failures.
"...the 3% is for those people who don't use condoms consistently and condom failures."
Teak it seems like you may have thrown a wrench into the statistics theory debacle now. Are you saying the 3% are the ones that had condom discrepancies between 3 and 6 months, or before 3 months-just trying to decipher your answer.
Teak it seems like you may have thrown a wrench into the statistics theory debacle now. Are you saying the 3% are the ones that had condom discrepancies between 3 and 6 months, or before 3 months-just trying to decipher your answer.
How many time have you read the timeline for obtaining a conclusive negative test? It's been explained many of times those that may need to test longer than 3 months. There has never been anyone on this forum that has needed to test out to 6 months.
Teak, FYI a 4th generation ELISA does have a p24 test in it.
I suggest that you don't correct people on subjects that you are not familiar with yourself.
I suggest that you don't correct people on subjects that you are not familiar with yourself.
fight fight fight!!! LOL
Come onnnn.. You two are great people.
You are doing great job here.
You are the most expert people in this forum.
Thanka teak, regularjoey..God bless you
Come onnnn.. You two are great people.
You are doing great job here.
You are the most expert people in this forum.
Thanka teak, regularjoey..God bless you
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