Received unprotected oral from a transsexual with syphilis

[Coolcat2049]

Hello all, I am extremely nervous and although I've read all of the posts concerning oral sex not being a risk I am still questioning if my case is different.  I recently engaged in oral sex with a transsexual off of craigslist anonymously.  It was a very dark room.  She performed very hard and vigorous oral sex on me and also a very deep rimjob.  I also get acne and had some on my penis at the time. I also get hemorrhoids and may have had an inflamed hemorrhoid during rimming.  Anyhow, she just informed me she tested positive for syphilis.  I have heard that syphilis can negate the no risk for oral if she had an open chancre.  Is there a chance i got HIV from this exposure? thank you

[mike_no]

Oral sex is not a risk. Any situation you add to that will not change the fact as stated above.

[AnxiousNoMore]

"I've read all of the posts concerning oral sex not being a risk"
Therefore, you need to move on instead of thinking your circumstances somehow can make a difference. Your problem is not disease, it is fear of disease because you are believing  your hiv theory that oral is a risk under certain circumstances.

[Coolcat2049]

Hi AnxiousNoMore I really appreciate your response.  I believe I may have been infected with syphilis as I have a large chancre on the side of my penis.  I just want to know if acquiring syphilis ups the odds that i also acquired HIV at the same time.  Thanks again

[AnxiousNoMore]

" you need to move on from hiv instead of thinking your circumstances somehow can make a difference."
Have an std panel taken at the correct time for std analysis though.

[AnxiousNoMore]

btw, that is the second time you asked this same question. rephrasing your circumstances is just wasting your time and energy worrying.

[Coolcat2049]

Thanks for the follow up. My anxiety stems from some of Dr Hook’s old posts. In one of them he says that it is 2 to 5 times more likely to acquire HIV from an exposure that you were infected with syphilis. In another post he claims that syphilis provides a pathway for HIV even in oral. I just don’t understand why this site is adamant about the no risk oral but there are statements like this out there.

[AnxiousNoMore]

The point you miss is that zero risk activity times high percentage risk from syphilis = zero risk.
Here is an example of zero times a %= zero. If cars drive on a busy road and you jaywalk while wearing a blindfold and earplugs you have high risk of being hit. However if you jaywalk wearing a blindfold when the road is shut down due to construction so no car can travel on it then your risk is zero.

[AnxiousNoMore]

No one got hiv from oral so we don't pay attention to theoretical risks that have never manifested in 40 years of hiv history. You have a greater chance of being hit by a meteorite while typing than hiv from oral but hopefully you don't worry about either of those.

[Coolcat2049]

Thanos again. Can you discuss this quote from Dr Hhh that is found here:

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Syphilis-symptoms-and-HIV-ARS-symptoms/show/246796

“You indeed had a very high risk encounter; there probably is no higher risk than having sex with a potentially HIV-infected person and acquiring syphilis at the same time.”

[CurfewX]

I'm not sure why the difference is unclear to you, but that person had UNPROTECTED anal sex.  You did not.  Syphilis only increases the risk if you had a risk to begin with.  You did not.  Even if having syphilis increased your risk by 5x, the equation is:
0 risk for HIV x5 = 0.

[Coolcat2049]

I really appreciate the responses I’m just trying to wrap my head around this stupid error of mine. At the risk of sounding too graphic, I suffer from anal fissures to the point where when I use the toilet there is blood in the water after defecating. This coupled with the fact that she performed very deep vigorous rimming with her clearly syphilis infected mouth has me very concerned. Thoughts on this article and quote from Dr HHH when he discusses rimming:

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Irritated-skin---Healing-wound/show/599936

“It is an important issue, because either herpes or syphilis of the anus would significantly increase the risk of HIV if exposed to an infected partner.”

[Coolcat2049]

Follow up on this last point is that wouldn’t the infected mouth on my fissure anus be no different from a penis with an infection

[Kirstie_MHModerator]

There is absolutely a difference between a mouth and a penis.  Our members have advised you in every possible way that you had no risk for HIV.  There is no new information that can be added to this thread that will change the assessment.

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