Scared and confused

[Vetteguy82]

Hey guys I was wondering if I could get some insight from anyone knowledgeable here please! I was wondering if Ars symptoms can come on at 10 weeks past possible exposure? I had a 4th gen combo test with reflex done at 10 weeks and got a neg result. However it seems the day after getting my results back I ran a temp of 99.4 for about 3 days and I had what actually looked like flea bites on my side's maybe 8 in total and maybe 5 more of them on my arms. I also during this time developed what I feel like was a slight sore throat when I swallowed. I know none of this sounds dramatic but I read that ars can be mild and I'm not sure just how mild. Also at the 10 week mark I had a negative oraquick as well. Thank you for any knowledgeable response I can get guys. I hope 8m ok and learned my lesson.

[Sara_MHModerator]

Your question has been fully answered at this point by our members.  Your test results were conclusive and your second exposure was a non risk.  We are now closing this discussion.

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[Vetteguy82]

Guys I know y'all get a lot of aggravating questions on here trust me I've read tons on here over the past few months. I'm seriously not trying to be that guy at all. I'm just concerned over the rash and it coming on with the slight sore throat and 3 days of 99.4 temps. It seems so coincidental. Trust me I don't lie when I say I get treatment over my hypochondria and OCD as I'm diagnosed as having severe cases of both. I try not to tell many people or let that info out on here because people don't take anything I say seriously over illness anymore and it sucks. I figured if I told y'all guys you would just blow me off as  overreacting.

I just wish after getting my 6 month and 10 week result I wouldn't have developed the rash. It's really set me off. Heck I never ever get one. I'm not sure it what type of rash I should have even been looking for. Mine looked like random flea bites and I had one patch on my belly with like a group of three. I've tried to research if someone would even have ars symptoms this far out and I get yes and no answers. .... Please bear with me guys and I really do appreciate hearing from yall.

[Chima7]

I can see that Dr. Hook recommended that you seek counseling because it was clear to him that you weren't going to accept his advice despite his expert opinion. My suggestion is that you follow his advice and stop seeking answers that you already received and get some counseling instead because that's what would actually help you.

[Vetteguy82]

I promise I'm in treatment.

[AnxiousNoMore]

Oral, anal or vaginal and did you use condom?

[Vetteguy82]

Ok so this may get confusing but there are two exposures I've been worried about. The first was six months ago and I was advised by Dr Hook that my testing was good enough at 6 months to not worry about it. If you would like more info on it I'll gladly share. As for this 10 week scare I have not had any sexual exposure.  I work in construction/ electrical with my best friend. While he is my best friend I'll admit he's a ladies man and sleeps around A LOT A LOT ALOT!! What happened was we both scraped our knuckles at work both bleeding his maybe a lol more dried than mine. Anyways at one point while pulling wire we rubbed knuckles pretty good. He said well buddy if you have it I have it so do I now. I had honestly forgotten about it until taking me my 6 month test and coming down with the symptoms I described. I knew I had my had any other sexual exposure so what could have caused this. It was absolutely 10 weeks prior to what I'm feeling now.

[Vetteguy82]

Like I said I'll  gladly give more info on the first exposure 6months ago I simply didn't because Dr Hook made it sound as if he was certain that it was a no concern beings I had tested so far out. I bring this one up because it's my last risk event and it's shy of 12 weeks to test if you still go by 3 month standards

[AnxiousNoMore]

Doctors left this site long ago. The only detail I need is oral, anal or vaginal and did you use condom?

As far as your buddy goes read below why it is zero risk.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore  testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.  
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.

[Vetteguy82]

As for the first exposure it was in July and this might be TMI but here it goes. The wife and I decided to try "cuckold" play so she finds a guy she works with at her old job and they play. Unprotected and he finished inside her. Well probably 15 min later I have unprotected sex with her as well in his "mess" ........ we didn't know his status and we both now have tried to educate ourselves better with this and hopefully it's not to late. However as I said I talk to Dr Hook on his other site and he assured me no matter the risk or exposure that my test for that incident after 6 weeks was definite. He said that my testing and her testing was enough and we needed no more for that situation.

Our testing from first time in July

Both had 5 week 4th gen neg baseline test
She had a 9week  neg 4th gen
I had 5 month neg oraquick
She had 6 month neg oraquick
I had 6 month neg 4th gen.

Dr Hook said these test were enough for the unprotected expose in july

[AnxiousNoMore]

I answered about the friend exposure non-issue so you can move on from hiv since you are safe.

[Vetteguy82]

I would like to thank you for your time with me trying help me figure this out

[Vetteguy82]

Do agree with the Dr about my first exposure? I know it was very risky, would you think the testing we've had would have caught it? I'm having an issue with all of this 6 months later because I never get any rash or anything like I just had and rarely sick. The fever and rash have me so concerned

[AnxiousNoMore]

Your situation is straightforward since you had that conclusive test, so you need to move on.
See doc if you want your rash diagnosed since there are hundreds of possibilities. Disease doesn't follow a schedule, otherwise no one would ever get anything new.