Hiv risk for deep kissing with blood and oral sex

[arrowheadboy32]

Just a few questions here. I was tested for HIV in August and it was a Negative test after 3 months of celibacy.

Recently, however, a wild streak within me has cropped up and I have seen about 4 different guys since the beginning of September. One of which I had protected anal sex with, the other 3 I engaged in deep kissing and oral sex with no ejaculation involved.

The most recent one concerns me the most. The guy I was with had his tongue pierced and had semi-bad oral hygiene. We were engaged in deep kissing one night and my lips were chapped, I tasted blood while we were kissing. I am assuming it was mine, so I didn't get too worried about that.

The next morning, we were both brushing our teeth in my bathroom and my gums bled a little when I spit the toothpaste out, and his bled quite a bit more, there was dark blood in with the toothpaste he spit out. Later in the shower, we were kissing and I guess in the heat of the moment I didn't really worry about it. Also he gave me oral sex and was wondering if the tongue piercing made this a higher risk. I gave him oral sex also but no ejaculation occured.

I am just worried about my lips being chapped and bleeding and then if his blood got in to that cut while we were kissing, if that would be a risk.

I did ask him if he was HIV negative and he said he has never been tested, which blows my mind but also makes me very high alert.

I try so hard to have safe sex. I never have penetrative anal sex hardly at all, and if I do I religiously use condoms, I always ask my sex partners their statuses, and engage in oral and deep kissing then feel guilty about it. I just don't know what to do anymore, situations keep popping up like this that could possibly be a risk for HIV.

Your advice is much appreciated. Thank you.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Welcome to our Forum.  I hope that it will not surprise you that my comments regarding your concerns will not differ much from the comments you have already received from Teak and his well-informed colleagues on the HIV Community site.  Despite your partners’ poor oral hygiene, there is no known risk for HIV from kissing of any sort, including deep kissing in which you are a partner have blood or sores present in the mouth.  

Similarly, condom protected sex is also safe sex as long as the condoms do not break,  The do break slightly more often with receptive rectal intercourse than with genital or oral sex but they remain the best way to reduce risk for HIV.

There is no known risk for HIV from receiving oral sex from an infected partner.  On the other hand, there are a very small number of cases which have been reported in persons giving oral sex (fellatio) to an infected partner.  Based on these very few cases, the estimated risk for HIV, IF your partner was infected (which is statistically unlikely) is still less than 1 infection in 10,000 episodes of oral sex.

Your experience with the stretching rods sounds a bit uncomfortable.  The big IF here is whether or not they are properly cleaned or not.  From what you describe, I suspect that yours were.  Liscensed tattoo parlors are highly regulated and from the sounds of things, the rods used to stretch your ear lobes had been cleaned and sterilized (the little packages they came in are typically used in the sterilization process to keep things clean.

I hope these comments are helpful.  It sounds like your exposures were low risk and not something to worry about.  I am a bit surprised that your partner had never been tested.  I hope you will encourage him to do so.  Even so however, the exposures you have mentioned remain low risk.  EWH

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Iwould not worry and see no reason for testing related to the events you dessribe.  EWH

[arrowheadboy32]

Thank you for your feedback, would you reccomend I get tested or should i just move on and stop worrying about all this?

[arrowheadboy32]

Thank you for your feedback, would you reccomend I get tested or should i just move on and stop worrying about all this?

[arrowheadboy32]

Also one more thing I forgot to add, I am also male. One more question as well while I have a doctor's advice, My earlobes were recently pierced and stretched at the same time at a local tattoo shop, but later I found out that they re-use the tapers (stretching tools) and my blood was all over those, so that freaks me out to think that they were used before me. They were in a sealed package, but what if they were not properly sanitized?