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Oral sex and brief touch with penis to vagina on Prostitute
Thank you and please advise.
I recently for the first time hired a prostitute. Upon our encounter we had oral sex without a condom. She went down on me for a few minutes and I on her. My tongue swept across her clitorus but I never went deep inside her. As I was laying on top of her my penis (head) brushed up against her lips of her vagina. My urethra and head "possibly" was exposed to vaginal fluid for a couple of seconds...
Then I proceeded to put on a condom and have penatration to finish our session. After having sex she drops a bomb on me and says she has been clean from "shooting blow" for seven months... I almost fainted and then she says she is clean and tests every 3 months. Since I have called her to verify what she said about being clean is true and she confirmed reiterated the same.
Since I have not been able to sleep work or even smile I understand anxiety and how it works but I need to know how serious if any have I put myself at risk. I appreciate honest answers and please feel free to speak openly.
Thank you,
A Worried dad
I recently for the first time hired a prostitute. Upon our encounter we had oral sex without a condom. She went down on me for a few minutes and I on her. My tongue swept across her clitorus but I never went deep inside her. As I was laying on top of her my penis (head) brushed up against her lips of her vagina. My urethra and head "possibly" was exposed to vaginal fluid for a couple of seconds...
Then I proceeded to put on a condom and have penatration to finish our session. After having sex she drops a bomb on me and says she has been clean from "shooting blow" for seven months... I almost fainted and then she says she is clean and tests every 3 months. Since I have called her to verify what she said about being clean is true and she confirmed reiterated the same.
Since I have not been able to sleep work or even smile I understand anxiety and how it works but I need to know how serious if any have I put myself at risk. I appreciate honest answers and please feel free to speak openly.
Thank you,
A Worried dad
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Welcome to the Forum. What I am about to say will confirm what you have already been told in your interactions on the HIV Community site. Despite the fact that your partner was an IV drug user and that this makes it somewhat more likely that she could have had HIV, chances are that she did not. The vast majority of IV drug users do not have HIV and this woman told you repeatedly she had been tested and did not have HIV. Most persons do tell the truth.
But, what if she did have HIV? Still no risk. The exposures you describe include oral sex and touching without penetration. The quoted figure for HIV risk, if one has oral sex with an infected partner is less than 1 in 10,000 and, in my estimation that is too high. Some experts state there is no risk at all from oral sex. Neither of us on this site have ever seen or reading the medical literature of a convincing instance in which HIV was passed by oral sex.
As for the touching and possibly getting her vaginal secretions on your skin, this too is no risk. HIV does not pass through intact skin. Please understand that during the common occurrence of mutual masturbation, it is usual for persons to get each other’s genital secretions on one another yet there has not ever been a case of HIV transmitted by such an exposure. You are not going to be the first.
It is time for you to relax. The exposures you describe are virtually no risk and you need not worry. There is no medical reason for you to seek HIV testing. If you choose to do so for your own peace of mind, please wait until at least 6 weeks following the exposure you describe. At that time, the negative result you receive will prove that you did not get HIV, confirming what I have just said.
Take care. EWH
But, what if she did have HIV? Still no risk. The exposures you describe include oral sex and touching without penetration. The quoted figure for HIV risk, if one has oral sex with an infected partner is less than 1 in 10,000 and, in my estimation that is too high. Some experts state there is no risk at all from oral sex. Neither of us on this site have ever seen or reading the medical literature of a convincing instance in which HIV was passed by oral sex.
As for the touching and possibly getting her vaginal secretions on your skin, this too is no risk. HIV does not pass through intact skin. Please understand that during the common occurrence of mutual masturbation, it is usual for persons to get each other’s genital secretions on one another yet there has not ever been a case of HIV transmitted by such an exposure. You are not going to be the first.
It is time for you to relax. The exposures you describe are virtually no risk and you need not worry. There is no medical reason for you to seek HIV testing. If you choose to do so for your own peace of mind, please wait until at least 6 weeks following the exposure you describe. At that time, the negative result you receive will prove that you did not get HIV, confirming what I have just said.
Take care. EWH
Listen to the good doc. You did NOT have a risk, period. It has nothing to do with AMOUNT of vaginal fluid one is exposed to in regards to a risk...it is the manner in which someone is exposed. It takes UNPROTECTED, PENETRATIVE sex to cause a risk. This is where the virus is preserved (inside the body).
Also, your other questions (about Magic Johnson, hetero sex, etc) are really irrelevant to your situation, and inappropriate for the forum.
Do yourself a favor and put this behind you. It's anxiety and guilt talking...you did not have an HIV risk.
Also, your other questions (about Magic Johnson, hetero sex, etc) are really irrelevant to your situation, and inappropriate for the forum.
Do yourself a favor and put this behind you. It's anxiety and guilt talking...you did not have an HIV risk.
Ok I know I am bothersome,,,,just 1 more question PLEASE....
I have Crohns disease and take remicade for the past 10 years. Would the remicade play a role in infection of HIV?
Kenny
I have Crohns disease and take remicade for the past 10 years. Would the remicade play a role in infection of HIV?
Kenny
Doctor,
Out of just conversation....... Majic Johnson, and 4500 other hetersexual men in the US contracted hiv supposedly from penile vaginal sex... Do you believe these figures or are the grossly mistated by the CDC.
A Worried Dad
Out of just conversation....... Majic Johnson, and 4500 other hetersexual men in the US contracted hiv supposedly from penile vaginal sex... Do you believe these figures or are the grossly mistated by the CDC.
A Worried Dad
very well
thank you
thank you
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
This is an irrelvant (and repetitive question). The amount of vaginal fluid is not important. I ahve nothing more to say about the matter. EWH
Thank you Doc..
I hope I am not to repetative! I am just confused about the amount of Vaginal Fluid it takes to infect.
A Worried Dad
I hope I am not to repetative! I am just confused about the amount of Vaginal Fluid it takes to infect.
A Worried Dad
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
You ar esplitting hairs and letting your anxieties take over. There was no penetration. IN the examination I mentioned above the urthera is exposed to gential secretions as well. EWH
Thank you Doctor.
Just about everything you wrote does put my mind at ease with 1 exception. During my session with her the head of my penis did gently rub up on the inner parts of her vaginal lips. So in retrospect to say fluid on skin, I 100% agree with you there is no risk. My assumptions were not the same if the opening of my penis had some form of vaginal fluids swiping across it. Could you briefly explain why there is no risk especially when fluids were prresent in my mouth and possibly in my urethra.
Basically I am trying to understand for my own piece of mind how hiv infects men from vaginal sex.
A Worried Dad
Just about everything you wrote does put my mind at ease with 1 exception. During my session with her the head of my penis did gently rub up on the inner parts of her vaginal lips. So in retrospect to say fluid on skin, I 100% agree with you there is no risk. My assumptions were not the same if the opening of my penis had some form of vaginal fluids swiping across it. Could you briefly explain why there is no risk especially when fluids were prresent in my mouth and possibly in my urethra.
Basically I am trying to understand for my own piece of mind how hiv infects men from vaginal sex.
A Worried Dad
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