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Risk of HIV from frotting if HIV+ semen got onto penis with almost healed HSV2 sores
In a video booth mostly separated by a partition, I engaged in some oral, anal, and frotting with another man's penis. I placed a condom on him before I began, and was not planning on any skin to skin contact as I had several HSV2 sores that were almost healed 3/4 up the bottom of my shaft (essentially, no blisters, scabs gone). No issues with the oral, and there was some brief anal poking with 4 just at the opening, and 3 that went in about an inch before I disengaged. That also, was with an intact condom.
But during the last frotting part, my partner must have had an enormous amount of ejaculate because the condom suddenly came off in my hand, and I ended up with semen all on the side and underside of my penis. I washed it all off within 15 minutes of exposure. Up until that time, the only skin-to-skin contact was when I briefly touched his testicles with my hand. I also found out that the condom was several years expired, but in good shape otherwise.
You may have guessed that I have extreme anxiety from this episode. I am still in the window period for testing, but was wondering if you could help me assess my risk of exposure to HIV from what I have described.
But during the last frotting part, my partner must have had an enormous amount of ejaculate because the condom suddenly came off in my hand, and I ended up with semen all on the side and underside of my penis. I washed it all off within 15 minutes of exposure. Up until that time, the only skin-to-skin contact was when I briefly touched his testicles with my hand. I also found out that the condom was several years expired, but in good shape otherwise.
You may have guessed that I have extreme anxiety from this episode. I am still in the window period for testing, but was wondering if you could help me assess my risk of exposure to HIV from what I have described.
That epic story is summarized as you are wondering if skin contact allows transmission. No.
You had no risk of HIV because you can't get HIV from touching or oral activities. You are so safe that you don't need to test. There is nothing to be anxious about.
HIV is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead. Washing dead virus is unnecessary since it serves no purpose.
Only adult risks are unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal sex or sharing needles that you inject with but you didn't do that so you had no risk. This sentence is all you need to know to protect yourself against HIV.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns etc air or saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching or oral activities. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established so nothing you can add will make your situation a risk.
You had no risk of HIV because you can't get HIV from touching or oral activities. You are so safe that you don't need to test. There is nothing to be anxious about.
HIV is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead. Washing dead virus is unnecessary since it serves no purpose.
Only adult risks are unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal sex or sharing needles that you inject with but you didn't do that so you had no risk. This sentence is all you need to know to protect yourself against HIV.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns etc air or saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching or oral activities. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established so nothing you can add will make your situation a risk.
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Thank you for responding ANM, but if you could bare with me...I may just need one more "hammer to the head" before I fully can move on with peace.
A Dr. on a precious post this website stated that having HSV2 in any stage increases risk of contracting HIV by twofold. I know you stated that skin-to-skin contact is no-risk. However, the man's semen went immediately from one sealed environment (his body) into another (the condom) without exposure to air. That brief half a second it took for the semen to get from the condom to my own penis...that was enough time in the air to deactivate the HIV so as to no longer be a threat to me?
After reading many of the answers on this website, many of them yours, I would expect you to say, "Your question has already been answered. What you are really dealing with now is anxiety and it is unwarranted based upon proven science."
Not trying to stretch this out, but just need that last "hammer"....
BTW, I am grateful there are people like you who take time out of their own day just to listen. Just wanted you to know that you are appreciated.
A Dr. on a precious post this website stated that having HSV2 in any stage increases risk of contracting HIV by twofold. I know you stated that skin-to-skin contact is no-risk. However, the man's semen went immediately from one sealed environment (his body) into another (the condom) without exposure to air. That brief half a second it took for the semen to get from the condom to my own penis...that was enough time in the air to deactivate the HIV so as to no longer be a threat to me?
After reading many of the answers on this website, many of them yours, I would expect you to say, "Your question has already been answered. What you are really dealing with now is anxiety and it is unwarranted based upon proven science."
Not trying to stretch this out, but just need that last "hammer"....
BTW, I am grateful there are people like you who take time out of their own day just to listen. Just wanted you to know that you are appreciated.
No, I don't think your problem is anxiety yet, as you are still at the learning stage of risks which I hope to finish off below.
The doctor didn't say that dead virus can infect, so reread the part about 40.
The doctor didn't say that dead virus can infect, so reread the part about 40.
Thanks! You have a great day too!
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