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Hi Dr:
On July 24, 2006, I had unprotected sex with my boyfriend of 2 years both vaginally and anal. A few days later he left me and told me he had never been faithful to me...He said that he didn't always use protection. About a week later I started running a fever of 99.2-99.5, was extremley tired, soft lose stool and my tongue turned white. I was so afraid I got HIV so I got tested at 10 days negative, 39 days negative and 58 days negative. After my 58 day test (8 weeks) I calmed down and wasn't so stressed out. However, I still have a white, dry tongue and feel like my mouth is disgusting. I am going to get my 86 day test on October 18.. Is there a good chance I am going to test positive with my tongue being white? Its not a coating or thrush but a white film that won't go away.. .. Please help I am scared to death, I am only 28 and trusted this person with my life... HELP
On July 24, 2006, I had unprotected sex with my boyfriend of 2 years both vaginally and anal. A few days later he left me and told me he had never been faithful to me...He said that he didn't always use protection. About a week later I started running a fever of 99.2-99.5, was extremley tired, soft lose stool and my tongue turned white. I was so afraid I got HIV so I got tested at 10 days negative, 39 days negative and 58 days negative. After my 58 day test (8 weeks) I calmed down and wasn't so stressed out. However, I still have a white, dry tongue and feel like my mouth is disgusting. I am going to get my 86 day test on October 18.. Is there a good chance I am going to test positive with my tongue being white? Its not a coating or thrush but a white film that won't go away.. .. Please help I am scared to death, I am only 28 and trusted this person with my life... HELP
There is a website rappstreet.org
http://www.rappstreet.org/index.php?module=Ask%20The%20Experts&func=view&id_cat=18
The "expert" sounds alot like Dr.H's writings here. I am not sure hwo the expert is there but he/she repeatedly says over 96 of people infected with HIV will have detectable antibodies by day 30. It is an interesting read anyway. Much along the same lines as this forum.
http://www.rappstreet.org/index.php?module=Ask%20The%20Experts&func=view&id_cat=18
The "expert" sounds alot like Dr.H's writings here. I am not sure hwo the expert is there but he/she repeatedly says over 96 of people infected with HIV will have detectable antibodies by day 30. It is an interesting read anyway. Much along the same lines as this forum.
Is this an error?
" I have yet to see ANY MD's say they have seen a pos test turn neg after 4 weeks. "
Should that say negative at 4 weeks then pos later?
" I have yet to see ANY MD's say they have seen a pos test turn neg after 4 weeks. "
Should that say negative at 4 weeks then pos later?
The CDC says the the "Average" time to seroconvert is 22 days. the average means some before and some after. I think I've heard a means of 9-38 days? If what your saying about your doctor is correct (which I wonder if you didnt hear him wrong) how can 8 weeks or 56 days be less than satisfactory. That tells me that his knowledge in the field of HIV is dated. Most people maybe 90% show up by 4 weeks and you have doubled that. Why is that so hard to believe. I have searched the internet probably more than 99 percent of any doctor on HIV and I have yet to see ANY MD's say they have seen a pos test turn neg after 4 weeks. I mean 0! Even the mods on aidsmeds have never seen it. Massachessets guideline of 6 weeks would easily be debunked if people were getting the all clear at six weeks and coming back pos later. I have yet to hear or read anything on that. Not only that but you have multiple tests which debunk any kind of lab error. Seriously.. it's time to forget about HIV. If you have to have a test do your 10 week and move on. You dont even need it.
Another great read on how HIV is transmitted. Looks accurate to me but I think the article is quite old. Good read nonetheless.
http://www.aproposinc.com/hap/catch.htm
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"The Mechanics of Transmission
In order for a person to catch AIDS (HIV infection), the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) must travel from the inside of one person to the inside of another person, arriving with its RNA strand(s) intact. Then the virus, or its intact RNA strand(s) must get into the new host's bloodstream and then successfully find and enter a T-cell. Once inside a host cell, HIV can prepare for replication. After replication, replica viruses infects other host cells, probably attaching to new host cells when the infected host cell collides with other cells in the bloodstream.
Generally, more than one virus enters the body at one time. More likely, a person encounters dozens, hundreds, or thousands of viruses (or virus-infected cells) during exposure. The more viruses present, the better the chance of one or more viruses succeeding in finding a host cell and replicating.
Viruses are not able to enter the body through intact skin. Therefore viruses must enter the body through an open wound(s) or one of a number of possible body openings. Most of these body openings contain mucous membranes. Mucous membranes are thin tissues which protect many openings and passages in the human body. These membranes secrete mucus. Which contains anti-germ chemicals and keeps the surrounding tissues moist. There are mucous membranes in the mouth, inside the eyelids, in the nose and air passages leading to the lungs, in the stomach, along the digestive tract, in the vagina, in the anus, and inside the "eye" of the penis. Many viruses, if placed on the surface of a mucous membrane, can travel through the membrane and enter the tiny blood vessels inside.
The mucous membranes of the eyes and mouth are often doorways into our bodies for highly infectious viruses such as the flu. You can catch the flu from a person in the following manner: the person coughs in his or her hand, you shake hands soon afterward, and then your virus-carrying hand touches your eye or mouth.
The flu is highly infectious because the flu virus lives in the lungs, throat, and sinuses. Therefore, a high concentration of flu viruses is present in the sputum of an infected person. (Sputum is the substance expelled by coughing or by clearing the throat. Concentration is the number of viruses per unit of volume.) Coughing forces many viruses out of the lungs and into the air or onto the sick person' s hand or handkerchief. The flu virus easily crosses the mucous membrane.
The danger with AIDS is very different. With AIDS, the major infection sites are the bloodstream and the central nervous system. While HIV-carrying macrophages (roving white blood cells that engulf invaders, but are susceptible to HIV infection) are found in the connective tissues of the lung and in oral and mucous membranes, the number of viruses present does not seem great. Thus, HIV is present in low concentrations, if at all, in saliva and sputum. So coughing should not expel a large quantity of HIV, if any. Apparently, HIV cannot cross the mucous membrane very easily, and large concentrations of HIV are probably necessary. "
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http://www.aproposinc.com/hap/catch.htm
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"The Mechanics of Transmission
In order for a person to catch AIDS (HIV infection), the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) must travel from the inside of one person to the inside of another person, arriving with its RNA strand(s) intact. Then the virus, or its intact RNA strand(s) must get into the new host's bloodstream and then successfully find and enter a T-cell. Once inside a host cell, HIV can prepare for replication. After replication, replica viruses infects other host cells, probably attaching to new host cells when the infected host cell collides with other cells in the bloodstream.
Generally, more than one virus enters the body at one time. More likely, a person encounters dozens, hundreds, or thousands of viruses (or virus-infected cells) during exposure. The more viruses present, the better the chance of one or more viruses succeeding in finding a host cell and replicating.
Viruses are not able to enter the body through intact skin. Therefore viruses must enter the body through an open wound(s) or one of a number of possible body openings. Most of these body openings contain mucous membranes. Mucous membranes are thin tissues which protect many openings and passages in the human body. These membranes secrete mucus. Which contains anti-germ chemicals and keeps the surrounding tissues moist. There are mucous membranes in the mouth, inside the eyelids, in the nose and air passages leading to the lungs, in the stomach, along the digestive tract, in the vagina, in the anus, and inside the "eye" of the penis. Many viruses, if placed on the surface of a mucous membrane, can travel through the membrane and enter the tiny blood vessels inside.
The mucous membranes of the eyes and mouth are often doorways into our bodies for highly infectious viruses such as the flu. You can catch the flu from a person in the following manner: the person coughs in his or her hand, you shake hands soon afterward, and then your virus-carrying hand touches your eye or mouth.
The flu is highly infectious because the flu virus lives in the lungs, throat, and sinuses. Therefore, a high concentration of flu viruses is present in the sputum of an infected person. (Sputum is the substance expelled by coughing or by clearing the throat. Concentration is the number of viruses per unit of volume.) Coughing forces many viruses out of the lungs and into the air or onto the sick person' s hand or handkerchief. The flu virus easily crosses the mucous membrane.
The danger with AIDS is very different. With AIDS, the major infection sites are the bloodstream and the central nervous system. While HIV-carrying macrophages (roving white blood cells that engulf invaders, but are susceptible to HIV infection) are found in the connective tissues of the lung and in oral and mucous membranes, the number of viruses present does not seem great. Thus, HIV is present in low concentrations, if at all, in saliva and sputum. So coughing should not expel a large quantity of HIV, if any. Apparently, HIV cannot cross the mucous membrane very easily, and large concentrations of HIV are probably necessary. "
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BTW, your doc SHOULD have told you. All your symptoms are due to anxiety. Your symptoms match every one of the symptoms I had to a tee. My three tests came back neg. 4, 6, 10 weeks. as will yours. Chill out, you're worrying about nothing.
I cant beieve your doctor told you it sounds like you have HIV. Are you sure you heard him correctly? I would take your 10 week test and be done with it already. You dont have HIV. If your doctor told you that then its time for a new doctor.
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