Hiv afraid due to penis scratch.

[worriedmale12]

Hi..I have masturbation and oral sex 5 days ago with an asian massage girl with unknown HIV status and my penis was 50% covered with condom and the rest was having red skin due to a hard masturbation 1 hour before.
2 days after i went to a doctor he told me to make syphilis test called V.D.R.L(R.P.R)and the test shows Non-reactive.

Now i am afraid that i got HIV due to this uncovered area ESP i have read that scratches (even it is small or unseen) on the penis is good for HIV to get into the body by any means (saliva,blood,body fluids...) and i am sure that she touched the uncovered skin area by her hands and lips.

So ..what is your(detailed) opinion for this case?
I am so confused please help.
Many thanks

[LIZZIE LOU]

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[worriedmale12]

Fever and Chills
AIDS is caused by a virus, so it does have some of the common symptoms of a virus, although eventually more severe. Among these symptoms at most stages of the disease is a fever. By the time the disease has developed into AIDS, these fevers may continue for several weeks at a time. Usually, the fever will be above 100F. Along with these fevers, you also may experience shaking chills.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/111577-symptoms-aids/#ixzz1sXmdHVxz

[Teak]

Not an HIV concern. If you are concerned about your symptoms see your doctor.

[worriedmale12]

thanks mr teak ..but what do u think about my current symptoms ?
should i have to go to a doctor?
please because i am too afraid about my future...

[Teak]

You don't have an HIV concern.

[worriedmale12]

Sorry ...but now after exactly 1 week  i just felt some burning inside the penis ,chills, sweat and a need to vomit but with no increase in the body temp for about 6 hours.
is this is an early sign of a HIV-STD ?
please please i need a reply for the suituation.

[Vance2335]

Post in the herpes fourm.

[worriedmale12]

any comments please?

[worriedmale12]

sorry i was asking about HIV
but what about herpes transmission with my scenario?
condoms are also not completely effective in preventing transmission of herpes during oral sex, since the virus can spread from skin to skin.
http://std.about.com/od/riskfactorsforstds/a/oralsexsafesex.htm

thanks..

[Vance2335]

No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

[worriedmale12]

see this also
http://www.sfcityclinic.org/providers/83_OralSexBroChart1207HighRes.pdf
what about the horrible herpes also?it can be transferred by my last scenario?
iam so afraid..
thanks  

[worriedmale12]

And i have got this opinion from this website (first hit in google) and i think it is reputable ..
http://aids.about.com/cs/safesex/a/oralsex.htm

see this also
Can HIV be transmitted during oral sex?
http://www.avert.org/oral-sex.htm

can u show me ur sources?
thanks alot

[worriedmale12]

Zamzam ..you gave me big hope..
I AM afraid ESP it is my first time and will not happen again god willing.. the doctor told me after the negative test that there is a low risk esp the penis tip was covered as you told right now..but what makes me afraid and hesitating is : i am thinking of some blood cells containing HIV from the girl mouth entered my body through the red injured skin during masturbation and friction.by your last reply what is the difference between the urethra lining an the penis red foreskin?
So..is there are any need for HIV test?sorry i have less medical knowledge..but appreciating any detailed professional reply ..
Thanks

[zamzam4]

In addition might I also add that the cells that are receptive to HIV are in found in the lining of the urethra, vagina and anus.  The head of your penis was covered.  Nothing else that you put in to the mix matters, cuts, scrapes, red skin!  You will not ever get HIV in the way you are concerned about.

[zamzam4]

If you go to any reputable and up to date website you will find that they say that oral sex giving or receiving is not a risk.  Now, there are sites out there that still cover that backsides and put it down as theoretical risk.

Where did you get this from?  I am sorry but it does not sound like any of the papers that I have ever read on HIV and its transmission.

[worriedmale12]

any other comments?

[Vance2335]

This is not the opinion of this website and the Dr's on this site.

[worriedmale12]

Thanks lou and zamzam ..

But what about this : Documented Risk: Although the risk is many times less than anal or vaginal sex, HIV has been transmitted to receptive partners through fellatio, even in cases when insertive partners didn't ejaculate.

This opinion make me so paranoid,i can't sleep afraid of getting HIV from this tiny scratches , can any doctor replies with his opinion..

thanks again

[worriedmale12]

thanks and appreciate ur answer but i have read this article and makes me worried ..
"Theoretical Risk:With fellatio, there is a theoretical risk of transmission for the receptive partner because infected pre-ejaculate ("pre-cum") fluid or semen can get into the mouth. For the insertive partner there is a theoretical risk of infection because infected blood from a partner's bleeding gums or an open sore could come in contact with a scratch, cut, or sore on the penis."
full article
http://aids.about.com/cs/safesex/a/oralsex.htm

what do u think about this?

[LIZZIE LOU]

you had NO risk.

transmission takes place INSIDE the body...when a penis is INSIDE a vagina / anus.