Just wondering

[veryworried5555]

First off, thanks for your time and co tribulations Doc HHH and Doctor Hook!

1. Assuming I made out with an HIV+ female (I don't know that she is, last i know she was tested and negative shortly before we made out) with lots of tongue, biting of the lip, am I at risk or need testing?

2. Are the swollen tastebuds (ball point size dots near the tip of the tongue that I have had a couple that have come and gone since the incident nearly 6 months ago) a sign of early HIV?

3. Tested at ~31 days (rapid oral) negative. Too soon? Need further tests?

Haven't had a fever or rash since. I only had a mild scratched throat that was on and off from 2-10 days post exposure.

[veryworried5555]

Thank you for you knowledge and compassion +time to deal with me. I see that none of my so called "symptoms" seem to hint at HIV or other stds. So I must drop my worries and continue sex with my GF and not let this mishap ruin my life. Hopefully the counselor helps with this also.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Nothing more to say. This thread needs to end.  EWH

[veryworried5555]

Doc. Thank you so much. I assume you read my interaction on the community forum too? I also had a small red bump on the inside elbow that went away after a couple day. But it left a crusty mark. I got scared cuz it looked like a rash bump, but there was only one. My friend said it was a sweat bump, and showed me one on his arm somewhat similar. I also have 3 tiny white dots on my lower gum under one of my lower teeth.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

The bumps you describe are not a reason to be worried about HIV, other STD or anything else.  EWH

[veryworried5555]

Thanks Vance. I totally looked over that. Mistake.

[Vance2335]

"You are not at risk for giving your GF HIV or any other STD following the exposure you asked about."  EWH

[veryworried5555]

Sorry to post again doc. But if you read my original comment post. I meant to put 6 WEEKS not 6 Months. The white dots became a little bigger and are less sensitive then a few days ago when they started. I had them around 2-3 after the incident and they popped up again at 6-7 weeks. Just worries me since they are centered around my exposure site (the mouth). Any advice you have on this will help. Thanks.

[veryworried5555]

PS: I believe I had one of these before my 4 week 3 day oral swab test also. But it went away. The test was negative. Don't know if this made a difference.

[veryworried5555]

Hey Doc. I feel quite relieved that I will be starting counseling to conquer my so called irrational fears on HIV. I was curious, another one of those white bumps appeared on the right side tip of my tongue, right below the other one. This is not a sign of any STD? (chlamydia, gono, HIV, etc).

I haven't had any intimate encounter with anyone (not even my GF) since the random makeout w/ tongue incident almost 7 weeks ago.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

You are not at risk for giving your GF HIV or any other STD following the exposure you asked about.  EWH

[veryworried5555]

Dr. Hook,

Thank you and Vance for your knowledge and kind hearted responses. It means so much to be that I almost felt a cry of relief. Been having a hard time since this mistake and I'm definitely paying for it and seeking help to get over my worries/anxieties. And is it definitely safe to continue you unprotected sex with my girlfriend or what should I do?

[veryworried5555]

Vance2335, thank you for your compassion and words of wisdom/advice. After reading your reply, I called a local therapist/anxiety counselor/therapist here in Alaska and will be starting my 1st of 8 sessions on Rhursday. He specializes in sexual health and anxiety disorders. In my mind I know it's most likely not possible to transmit hiv by kissing. But I need to work with someone in order to believe it and to stop examining myself. I have a girlfriend and have abstained from sex because I'm so scared. I just need help. And thanks to you all, hopefully I am making baby steps there.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Vance. thanks for your comments.

veryworried2335.  I have read your interactions with the knowledgeable folks on the HIV Prevention forum and agree with all that they have said.  HIV is not and has not ever been transmitted by kissing.  This is the case for deep kissing, saliva exchange, cracked lips, oral sores, etc- never!!!!  Further, the chance that the woman you were kissing had HIV is very, very low, given her recent negative HIV test.  There is no need for testing.  None of the signs you mention are in any way suggestive of HIV.

As Vance has mentioned, if this is something that you are having trouble getting out of your thoughts, you might be well served by discussing this with a counselor or other trained mental health professional. There is simply no reason for you to allow this event to bother you.  EWH

[Vance2335]

Dr.Hook or Dr.HHH will answer your question but i wanted to jump in because I remember you from the community forum. I suggest you seek a therapist. Based on the long exchange in the community forum you have a lot of anxiety over something that is done on a daily basis by millions and millions of people, and no matter what we said you ended up posting here. I hope the Dr's answers bring you some security, but I have serious doubt that it will as why I suggest therapy.