Terrified of HIV ARS from ! Please help!

[Tiredmidwestern]

I was in Germany 6 weeks ago and went to a gentlemens club. There a dancer came up to me in the nude and sat on my lap, and then my left knee. I touched her thigh, lower back and breasts. She didn't give me a lap dance. In fact she only sat down for a minute or two, but then she offered me sex that I freaked out and got up and left. I went back to my hotel about 12-15 minutes away and looked up porn and masturbated. My fear is that she had left some of her vagina fluids on my jeans, and I touched them before i masturbated and now I have HIV. I didn't see anything or I can't remember real clearly. I have foreskin which is why i am terrified. I took a test two days (exactly 6 weeks after the event) and it came back negative, but I was told I should wait for at least three months! I recently developed a terrible cough and have terrible congestion, I am outside my mind thinking this is ARS!!!!! plus I haven't been able to think about anything else. My home life and work is a wreck. I was told by four medical professionals that I was at no/low risk and didn't need to test but I wanted to hear from everyone here, and Dr. HHH about my particular situation. Please help.

[Tiredmidwestern]

Fair Enough,

Again, I only came in search of genuine information on what I felt was a topic that wasn't addressed in detail on the internet, which is why I was nervous.  and because of my own concern. I won't post again. I am not looking to make anyone upset. Thank you for all of your insight.

[nursegirl6572]

MOST doctors really don't feel that the foreskin increases risk enough to be significant.

Read the above statement again.  You are making way more out of this topic than need be.  There is no significant increased risk due to a man being uncircumsized, and again...you are missing the most important thing.  If you don't place yourself at risk to begin with by having unprotected sex, then you will have no worries.  People putting themselves at risk is the issue, not being circumsized or not.  

Again, you are putting way too much important on this, it is not an issue at all.

[Tiredmidwestern]

See you say exposure to the urethra, Teak states membrane? Which is it? Why isn't this membrane mentioned on the "Mucus Membranes" in the CDC listing? or is it not considered a mucus membrane, but some sort of porus membrane?

[Teak]

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0040223

[Tiredmidwestern]

This is why i was concerned initially. Why is this not mentioned on the CDC website. In looking, more and more men are uncircumsized and this should be something that has more validity in reference to being more succeptable to HIV infection. I think a great deal of the numbers, statistics, and information in general is in reference to "CUT" men. where more than one third of us out there aren't. This would add a level of awareness, that I feel currently doesn't exist.

[nursegirl6572]

Because, the foreskin can increase the time an infected fluid would have contact with the penile opening, therefore increasing the risk.

MOST doctors really don't feel that the foreskin increases risk enough to be significant.

Time to stop worrying.  If you use condoms for vaginal and anal sex, and don't share IV drug works, you will never have to worry about HIV.

[Teak]

Because of the membrane in the hood on uncut men.

[Tiredmidwestern]

See this is where I am confused, you say the risk lies with the person who is cut versus the one who isn't. I do UNDERSTAND THAT I am not at risk, what I don't understand is why or why not the foreskin adds to or takes away from any risk? Heterosexual contact without protection is high risk, okay I think that is universally accepted, what I am asking is what factor does the foreskin play in this? Some? alot? if protection is used is it none? Please, I am not trying to be offensive, I am asking the people here because you know, my hospital and others dont.

[nursegirl6572]

You are not understanding, the foreskin issue is ONLY a concern IF you had actually had a risk.  Meaning, if two men, one cut, one uncut, had unprotected sex, the man who is uncut would have a slightly higher risk than the circumsized male.

It doesn't matter if you are circumsized or not, because you didn't have a risk!

[Tiredmidwestern]

nursegirl6572,

Please don't think I am being excessive, that secondary post was a mistake, my fault. I am seeking the professional help I obviously need. But my main concern and reason for being on this forum was the material and information about the male foreskin which is so vague on the internet, and that no one in my small town hospital has the information or experience to answer. As I told Teak, I spent the last several weeks looking this up and wanted to be as concise and respectful as possible when asking questions about material that I have no experience with. I am very thankful for everyones helpful posts, what is your take on the foreskin issue and HIV regardless if I was exposed, I would like confidence in explaining HIV risk and this to my son.

Thanks for your patience

[nursegirl6572]

This is not the doctor's forum.  If you want an answer from a doctor, then you'll have to post on that forum and pay the associated fee.

You had no risk, and I agree that you should be spending your time continuing to seek professional help, rather than on HIV forums and searching the internet.

[Tiredmidwestern]

Dr. HHH,

Teaks vast experience is extremely reassuring. What is your take on the conflicting information in reference to the increased succeptability to HIV and foreskin? My son isn't circumsized either and I need to be confident when I explain his risk to HIV in reference to this concern. This will also help me conquer my own personal concerns.

Thanks for your help and patience

[Tiredmidwestern]

Thank you for your help

[Tiredmidwestern]

Joggen,

I realize that probably my most significant issue is the mental stress that is causing a great deal of the anxiety, and yes I have sought help, and have been dealing with this as well. I appreciate your prompt reply, and every response is just another reminder that i was not at risk, but look for those with more experience with these unique scenarios (questions) that some midwestern GP's, and thats why I posted. I am sure the moderators here have heard it all versus my family doctor and the ladies in the testing facility.

[Teak]

No your worry is not warranted.

[Tiredmidwestern]

Teak,

I really want to thank you for your response. I have read your posts for the last several weeks, and I am sure you are out of patience with the less than educated, like myself who could be classified as a worried well. I have tried to do my homework before asking the advice on this forum because I know everyones time is valuable. I studied the CDC website about environmental transmission which is where I felt my "exposure" may have fell, though it be remote. I have also sought some counseling for the event. I have also been told that there must be direct contact, and that indirect contact has never been reported, accept in homes where there is a HIV positive individual. I felt the foreskin put my situation of masturbation in the  unique category. Do you feel that this fear was warranted based on research or not?

[joggen]

HIV is a fragile virus that can only be contracted within the confines of the human body through direct inoculation as in a penis in a vagina or anus or a needle in a vein. To call it 'low' risk is an overexagerration- you had NO risk.

Anyway, why are you turning to an anonymous internet forum when FOUR DOCTORS have told you that you don't need to be worried about it? If you can't accept their advice then there is probably a mental health issue that you need to address as your first priority

[Teak]

You never had an exposure and didn't need testing. .