kissing + hsv2 + hiv

[nutme]

Hi,
I got hsv-2 on lips from deep kissing a girl for about a minute in a dark place. What are the chances of simultaneous HIV transmission keeping in mind that she might have had a recent exposure to hsv-2 and hiv herself. I understand kissing is stated to be no risk event but I got a hsv-2 (not hsv-1) breakout exactly 3 days after kissing and suffering multitude of other copybook symptoms 3 weeks since the exposure. I understand hsv-2 by kising is a very rare event but what do I make regarding the risks with an additional fact that my oral and dental health are also not in good shape. Looking forward to your response. I have always been exremely careful with regards to safe sex and always presumed kissing was safe after reading.

Please help me with an answer considering these additional details. Havng seperate forums for herpes and hiv is confusing my case even further. Please share your knowledge. It is very well stated by doctor that hsv-2 increases the risk of hiv transmission. Can I have a clear pattern of thinking on my risk level..



Thanks..

[RainLover71]

In all honesty I have never heard of such a case as this so I would assume HIV transmission is not possible.

[nutme]

I request some attention to my case. Please help me with correct situation analysis.

As per the doctor's response, if one of the 2 people have herpes of lips and hiv and they kiss, the herpes gets transmitted to the other person, it creates doorway for hiv through micro tears in oral mucous membranes.

Am I getting it wrong. I mean this situation results in direct injection of hiv virus into the micro tear due to continuous rubbing/sucking of lips for over 1 minute with no exposure to air and minimal saliva.

I know the whole situation is kind of complex whereby even doctors don;t have sure shot answers. But, again, I need to know if I am evaluating the risk correctly or no.

Pls, do not be biased in replying to me as this is not a simple kissing question. This exposure brought oral herpes breakdown 3 days after kissing and I have had all te symptoms i.e. sore throat, fever, chest rash and oral ulcers..

I am begging for help here. I understabd I need to help myself but I need to get the facts to help myself.

[RainLover71]

You are not going to be the first person in history to contract HIV from kissing--if you can't accept this you need to seek professional help.

[nutme]

Friends,
I am confused looking at my symptoms and need some help from someone who really knows. I saw this thread from the doctor and it is scaring me. If you have time, please take a look at it and reply back. Maybe, I am not reading it correctly due to inbuilt fear but if someone can make me see light of day I will really appreciate.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/HIV-Herpes-clarification/show/1003876

Here, the questioner is clearly talking about herpes acquasition during kissing from oral herpes and hiv positive individual. The doctor says "theoretically possible". Theroetical possibility and no possibility don;t have same meaning. What do I do now as I for sure know I got herpes breakout on lips after the kiss. I feel very unlucky and completely shattered and broken.

[nutme]

Not intending to keep goin on with this thread but just needed to make sure that while evaluating my hiv risk you are taking into consideration what doctor says in this forum that simultaneous transmission of hiv and hsv2 increases the risk factor. Now, whether that comment applies only to sexual intercourse or if it applies to kissing as well.

If you & other folks can answer this question, I guess I would not need to post any further queries..

Thanks a bunch...

[Teak]

What part is it you don't understand that you didn't have an exposure by deep kissing? It doesn't matter if you had HSV1 and HSV2 if you didn't have a risk to begin with which kissing is not.