Male massage body rub - Possible risk

[vnkt140785]

Hello Doc,
I am from Sydney Australia, I have been tested in Dec 2011 for Hiv and other STDs at (Sydney Sexual Health Clinic) which came back negative. My past exposures before the test in Dec were all hand jobs and BJs with women. After these test I have been maintaining total abstinence on sex.  But recently on FEB 10 2012 I went to a male masseur who just been to Australia from China and was offering therapeutic massage.  I went to him but it turned out to be a different experience. The guy was thin lean and looked like sick I was scared if he had any STDs.

I want to describe what happened at massage in points

1) I got laid down on my stomach and he sat on my legs and started giving me massage I could feel his penis touching near my anus all the time while he was give me a back rub. (Any risk if his pre cum touched any cuts or open scraps on my back). And do i feel if he did inserted his penis into my anus?

2) He kept massaging my penis with his hand all the time he was give me a back rub. I ejaculated in his hand (Any risk is he had cuts to his hands and if his blood touched my penis head with pre cum or cum on it?)

3) I was totally off it  I asked to finish of quickly he turned me around to my front and immediately kissed my nipples and even bit them with his teeth. There were no cuts or opening on my nipples (Any Risk).

4) He rubbed my penis near his anus by simulating sex. There was no penetration I guess. What are the risks if my pre cum touched any of his blood or if insertion happened with his mucous membranes.

5) I ejaculated my self at the end but he used a wet cloth to clean it. My concern is is he used the same cloth to clean others penises too what is my risk. If any cum from the cloth touched my penis head. (What is my risk).

Before this we had a rough conversation on phone over appointment and I fear he deliberately did some bad to me. Please help?
Thanks for your great work.

[vnkt140785]

Hi Doc,
Sorry to start this thread again. I woke up this morning with stomach upset and feeling bit sick like having flu. This has started my fear again because it has been two weeks post exposure.
But last night I had couple of beers and had lot of food is this might causing body heat and stomach upset or they are related to HIV.
I know I am on no risk but this is freaking me out because I think the masseur might have infected me somehow.

Pls doc reply to this post.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Glad to help.  Take care. EWH

[vnkt140785]

Thanks for you valuable inputs doc. I am relived.

[Edward W Hook, MD]

As I said, if there was no penetration there is no risk and no reason for concern.  You would know it if penetration had occurred.  I would not worry.  EWH

[vnkt140785]

Thank you very much for your information doctor. This relives me a lot. I even went to a counselor at SHC at they advised me that I do not need testing for this encounter.
I just have one concern what is the possibility of risk when my penis rubbed to anus during the sexual simulation. I am concerned because I will be leaving to meet my mom and dad after 5 years. I did not want to put my self my risk. So you think I am totally free and no testing is required.

Thanks for your time again

[Edward W Hook, MD]

Welcome to the Forum.  I'll try to help by working through your points one-by-one.  Before I do however, let me summarize my sense of where things stand.  This sounds as though it was a no risk exposure and you have no reason for concern or for testing.  HIV is not spread without penetrative sex and you would have known it if penetration occurred.  Activities such as kissing, mutual masturbation and frottage (body rubbing) do not lead to HIV transmission despite the fact that it is usual for genital secretions from one partner to get on the other in the course of these activities.  Now let's work through your questions:

1.  HIV is not transmitted without penetration, even if pre-ejaculatory fluid wound up on or around your anus.

2.  Even if he had cuts on his hand, masturbation of this sort does not represent a risk.

3.  Your skin was not broken by his bites.  This too in not a risk for HIV.

4.  See number 1 above.  This is call frottage.   HIV is not spread by frottage.

5.  HIV is not transmitted on cloth, or inanimate objects. the virus is just too fragile and dies before this can happen.  

As I said, the activities you describe did not put you at risk for HIV.  I see no need for testing.  I hope my comments are helpful  If not, please feel free to follow-up.  EWH