Stephano @ cajjim

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A statement and a thank you more than a question gentleman.

   My journey has been a confusing one with no real understanding of source of my infection and illness. However that is no longer relevant. Miss Gulf Coast and New Orleans on vacation. A few days later fall incrediably ill with a sinus infection and a viral sore throat for 3.5 months .No one just gets a 4 month sore throat even with mouth ulcers. I assumed I contracted HIV like an idiot after drinking after a fisherman's fellows spit cup with a bloody mouth at the craps table.  I am so worried about the possibility I am insane. Regardless at week 6 I ask doc to test me for all Hep and he PCR HVC neg and ang HBV neg. Tells me to go be with my wife. NOOooo I say something is terribly wrong. " I have extended nausea ...... I test private with two companies to 17 weeks spending hundreds doubling the days down on CDC info I did not understand and doctors advice.

My primary GP is a Patel with a background in virology he never mentions HBV tells me to seek psch .I get a call from testing company saying your all clear and two doctors telling me to seek Council. A a moment later I get a call that my sister dies. In weakness I am with my wife like a fool. I get sicker when the worm turns in week 19. From to week 19 and I start having neck ,shoulder, and hip arthritis and bad bad nausea. Every week I test again ang  negative. At week 19 I test Igm and Igg neg At week 20 I have HBV  panel neg.. I order DNA test and I should receive this week .At week 21 I see gastro when I feel somthing is attacking my liver and gallbladder. I read Stephonos advice and take a shot at week 19.
Week 21.5 test neg core and neg antibody( shot did not take) as I can not test for Ag. After shot my teeth turn pale green and so does my urine.

Go to hospital to get scan they find fatty liver from heavy drinker and gallstone lesion. I hurt bad.... I itch... the nausea comes and goes and the sore throat is gone. In fear I have sent myself to my parents home away from my family and made my wife take a shot two weeks ago after reading Stepheno advice. Hospital doctor sends me away with three different meds.... oxy, somthing for nausea and something else all bad for the liver ! In fear I read all the info and I am very appreciative. I have ordered 4 copies of Dr. Liu's book and I am eating soup and resting. I just dont understand if I have it why does it not show with these symptoms...I feel horrible and I am in fear for my family. If I have it so be it but not for my family. I do not understand why three doctors did not advise me to take the shot earlier.
I may need some council on vaccination for wife as doctor has said there is not a shorter schedule. Bitter melon and Dr Liu here I come.

Thank you again for the knowledge it has been more than any doctor has offered. DNA back on Tues.

[stef2011]

see bitter melon posts for fatty liver and being over weight.excercise, diet, vit D and vit E, lowering cholesterol, these are the points to improve health

[stef2011]

  Oh for my fatty liver I was going to buy some red yeast and the back said ' dont take with a bad liver " ......
this is bull*** if you check alt/ast regularly you can take any statin even with cirrhosis because they improve liver function, you stop if you see a rise of alt/ast only.alt cannot rise if you take monacolins at maximum dose of 5mg daily
be carefull about ignorant people/doctors

and i have heard vit K good if I am right. Any tips for the nausea ?
useless for the liver

you need to check vitamin d and take supplements/sun or sun bed if low.on hbvers it is low more than 95% cases

if your bmi is higher than 25 you must lose weight, it is the main problem if you are little over weight, all the rest is useless if bmi>24 and weist >94cm

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  All test back neg and DNA .Didnt even need em  after the real pain started I went to get a scan ........pulmonary caquie and pancretitus. It was like birthing a baby through a straw. Hopefully no stomach cancer but a fatty liver and we gotta yank the gallbladder i think. Genteman, i wish you well and i am already tired of Beef Soup but the book makes logic and in the weakness and pain Dr. Lui's rules are the proper ones to follow. Still confused about the source of my infection and i am praying that bovine achilles soup is not in my future.

Hard to find that part.....

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   Pcr has taken over two weeks now to get back. I dont even need to see it .

  Good lord it hurts between 4 - 8 o clock exactly whats with that? I hope I am not nasuesous for the rest of my life. Dr. Liu soup. fish soup cooking.  Got to loose the BMI and fatty liver I am too good of a host. At my parents away from my babies and wife. I feel like a fella without a soul.

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  My shoulder ache... nausea and ' liver pain " between 4-8 and it comes and goes just seals the deal for me. I just ate some fish beef soup and it was damn good. I hope I dont loose my family over this. No one beleives me and Im ready for the journey to end.  All drama aside my hope is that I am "subclinical '  I feel all the symptoms described just in a milder manner at 23 weeks.
  Oh for my fatty liver I was going to buy some red yeast and the back said ' dont take with a bad liver " ...... and i have heard vit K good if I am right. Any tips for the nausea ?

  Thanks again

[stef2011]

i dont thin it is hbv or hcv because these are silent, no synthoms, synthoms are very very rare.maybe hav has little more synthoms, my mother and father had both hav and hbv but no synthoms at all

according to me you got something else, the liver is targeted by almost all main infections: herpes, maybe cmv, mononuleosi and many others

as to hepatitis viruses if you like you can check here but it is not that probably
http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Hepatitis/the-general-book-of-ignorance-about-hepatitis-B/show/1152?cid=153

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Thank You for your response. I had ID Doc check for HAV early in the game. I was in some rather seedy places watching ladies preform and drinking establishments. Remember the devil has a high rise condo in Vegas but his personal home is in New Orleans. The most remarkable thing is there was no sex or oral sex with a woman..none...... I have reason to beleive I may have created contact myself as ridicoulous as this sounds and sounded to the GP and infectious deseise doctor. I should have lied and told him I had sex that way I would have been advised to take shot. He was going of probability after a 9 week test " ruled it out ". If I am right the DNA will show on Tuesaccomplished at genetics.. I can not find anything else that tracks the symptoms for such a long illness.If the acute phase hurts as bad as the sore throat and the nausea in the incubation Im in big trouble. I rashed at the hospital on my back and now I feel something attacking my gallbladder and liver , high colored urine( ive been pounding the B vit ) and mild headache.nausea , thirst..... My hope is the DNA is low as I took after I was at home.

My symptoms and incubation track a great description found @
  http-www.similima-medicine-pm160.pdf
  I feel I am at pre-isoteric .

  1)  core did not show up Friday. Best test for HBV 2 weeks after shot ?  core Igg ?

   2) nutricional advice during acute ?

   3) You , Ny ,Cajjim, and HR need to co-write a book informimg physicians and patients around the globe.

    4) finally the CDC guidelines of 1-9 weeks are extremely misleading if you can truly aquire a small amoung of the virus and it not show for 160 days or 150 days or 26 weeks...... Infection and replication is obviously different than exposures. This was my argument with two testing companies andand there 60 day "state manual" guideline . If one was exposed to just a smaller amount I wonder if the virus replicates at a lower degree.

  
  

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

if you dont find the source of infection you might even try alinia since it has broad range any worn,antibacteria, antiviral activity.of course i'd try one month at high dose 2-3g but only if you really don t find the source of infction and with a doctor supervision

alinia is not very potent on all bacteria/viruses but it has been reported activity on many different types of bacteria from elictobacter to tuberolosi and various viruses that attcked stomach so if you see a minimum of alina action it should be on of the patogens where alinia has some degree of activity

[stef2011]

you have notign related to hbv you have probably got some strange worm, viral or bacteria infection
of course if you were a drinker and have fatty liver your liver is not healthy and can be anywhere from severe fibrosis to early cirrhosis or just mild fibrosis.there is no way to know this unless you make biopsy or fibroscan.
since we are looking for what is causing this disease and we have fatty liver a biopsy made a specialized center (not just reading fibrosis) is better.they should check biopsy for infections too

anyway i think you just have a strange general infection not related to the liver and obviously not a healthy liver due to fat/drinking.
do not look for hbv and hcv, i d rather check for hav, hgv, hev and all hepatitis with orofecal transmission and also all worms/bacteria/viruses common in the area you had holidays

there is one thing to keep in mind when travelling around the world, we can get in contact with viruses/bacteria our immune system is not used to
i remember when i got to santo domingo and eating a lot of yogurt and being careful about food and water in the hotel...anybody got severe diarrea i luckily did not (maybe yogurt, maybe just eating well cooked food, maybe just lucky)

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  My apologies for the name mispelling.  I am assuming the same nutrician advice will apply during acute phase I feel I am entering. Thank you again