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we don't have chanca piedra here.. only in capsules. And you are right no one knows what they can be putting into these capsules. How much the actual plant contents.
But since you take chanca piedra and have access to grow it, show us your lab reports... to see how it works and if it works.
Just going by feel is not very indicative of anything. When I had 5,000,000 copies/ml hbv dna I felt nothing.. I started to feel it when the virus went up to 24,000,000 c/ml
Keep in mind human body is very resilient and adapts well to almost everything.. so without pcr DNA tests and other tests monitoring your liver function it is impossible to say if it works.
We the patients yes need to do our own research and medication trying. But if we are doing it, back up what you are saying with solid evidence that it works.. Otherwise some one comes to this forums and takes your advice for his HepB - and takes chance piedra - and it does not work then what does he do if he develops cancer?
At least with nucs there is solid proof they work at lowering viral dna. They are yes toxic and dangerous drugs that should not be used for longer then 3 years.. but that is debatable.
With chanca piedra ALL of it is questionable.. That is what I am trying to say..
But since you take chanca piedra and have access to grow it, show us your lab reports... to see how it works and if it works.
Just going by feel is not very indicative of anything. When I had 5,000,000 copies/ml hbv dna I felt nothing.. I started to feel it when the virus went up to 24,000,000 c/ml
Keep in mind human body is very resilient and adapts well to almost everything.. so without pcr DNA tests and other tests monitoring your liver function it is impossible to say if it works.
We the patients yes need to do our own research and medication trying. But if we are doing it, back up what you are saying with solid evidence that it works.. Otherwise some one comes to this forums and takes your advice for his HepB - and takes chance piedra - and it does not work then what does he do if he develops cancer?
At least with nucs there is solid proof they work at lowering viral dna. They are yes toxic and dangerous drugs that should not be used for longer then 3 years.. but that is debatable.
With chanca piedra ALL of it is questionable.. That is what I am trying to say..
yes, it depends also on how would the body respond..i suggest to take freash chanca piedra the whole plant and make a tea from it after the harvest it's because you might lose some other chemical content that would be helpful for HBV..have you tried chanca piedra veteranB?
i have my own chanca piedra plant that's why i dont buy commercially introduced chanca piedra..i'm taking also vitamins like Vit. C, E and silymarin to boost immune system..
Yes exactly please post your lab results so we can all see.
What you say about the drug companies that they care about profit that is all true but at the same time they can show proof their medications work.
Logically yes there must be a natural compound that can be affective against hbv. So far they have not found one.
You have to understand hbv causes no symptoms pretty much that is why it is called a silent killer. And some people with active disease that come here for advice may start taking phyllanthus that will make their disease worse. I have proof with viral loads that a herbal supplement of phyllanthus amarus had no affect on hbv viral load taking it kept increasing hbv dna.
Taking it as tea or capsules should not make it that much of a difference. I give you an example. Taking milk thistle as a hepatoprotector works regardless how you take it.
What you say about the drug companies that they care about profit that is all true but at the same time they can show proof their medications work.
Logically yes there must be a natural compound that can be affective against hbv. So far they have not found one.
You have to understand hbv causes no symptoms pretty much that is why it is called a silent killer. And some people with active disease that come here for advice may start taking phyllanthus that will make their disease worse. I have proof with viral loads that a herbal supplement of phyllanthus amarus had no affect on hbv viral load taking it kept increasing hbv dna.
Taking it as tea or capsules should not make it that much of a difference. I give you an example. Taking milk thistle as a hepatoprotector works regardless how you take it.
zohan,
can you post a link to the chanca piedra you bought?
what was your viral load before & after starting it?
Thanks.
can you post a link to the chanca piedra you bought?
what was your viral load before & after starting it?
Thanks.
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