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When would you tell your new partner you are a inactive hep b carrier?
Consider that you have known that person for a long long time as friends before you started dating, so it is not a stranger.
Consider that you initiated the relationship through a friend.
Consider that it is inactive and you are a carrier with all normal tests. HBSAG+, HBEAG-, HBEAB+, HBV DNA UNDETECTED and LFT normal.
ALSO could you please give comments in the answers section wether you would have sex with them BEFORE telling them about your inactive hbv or not?? And why?
Would you let your bf/gf be very committed, serious and deeply in love before telling him/her?
Would you go forward in the relationship with sex, wanting to meet each others parents, calling him her a 'soul mate', ask to go on a weekend private holiday with him/her, talk about marriage which would be years later..ALL before revealing hbv inactive carrier state?
Finally, would you consider inactive hep b carrier state as a SMALL thing which can be told to a new partner at any time?
Please ALSO give answers and any of your explanations to all these in the answers section.
Consider that you initiated the relationship through a friend.
Consider that it is inactive and you are a carrier with all normal tests. HBSAG+, HBEAG-, HBEAB+, HBV DNA UNDETECTED and LFT normal.
ALSO could you please give comments in the answers section wether you would have sex with them BEFORE telling them about your inactive hbv or not?? And why?
Would you let your bf/gf be very committed, serious and deeply in love before telling him/her?
Would you go forward in the relationship with sex, wanting to meet each others parents, calling him her a 'soul mate', ask to go on a weekend private holiday with him/her, talk about marriage which would be years later..ALL before revealing hbv inactive carrier state?
Finally, would you consider inactive hep b carrier state as a SMALL thing which can be told to a new partner at any time?
Please ALSO give answers and any of your explanations to all these in the answers section.
I would not do any unprotected sex when I'm infected with hbv. No matter whether I'm "inactive" carrier or someone with high replication of the virus. Any person with hbsag positive is potentially infectious.
I also would tell my partner about my hbv positivity before I committ myself to the person. I would try to explain and educate the person about the hepB disease and would encourage him/her to get the hbv vaccination if they have not done it already. Then I would make sure they test their anti-hbs titers to see if they have got the necessary immunity, above 10mIU/ml. Then if the person agree to live with me, I would continue with my plans in the relationship.
I would NEVER keep my hbv infection secret from my life partner. HepB is not a curse, and it is totally preventable through vaccination.
I have also noticed that your partner has told you she is "inactive" carrier with undetected hbv dna without any treatment. I must say I'm suspicious of this because almost all hbv carriers have some detectable, normally a few thousands IU/ml of hbv dna, esp. when they are not under antiviral treatment.
I also would tell my partner about my hbv positivity before I committ myself to the person. I would try to explain and educate the person about the hepB disease and would encourage him/her to get the hbv vaccination if they have not done it already. Then I would make sure they test their anti-hbs titers to see if they have got the necessary immunity, above 10mIU/ml. Then if the person agree to live with me, I would continue with my plans in the relationship.
I would NEVER keep my hbv infection secret from my life partner. HepB is not a curse, and it is totally preventable through vaccination.
I have also noticed that your partner has told you she is "inactive" carrier with undetected hbv dna without any treatment. I must say I'm suspicious of this because almost all hbv carriers have some detectable, normally a few thousands IU/ml of hbv dna, esp. when they are not under antiviral treatment.
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My partner also had sex without telling me or asking if i am immune. Now she is saying that she did not need to tell me as she is not infectious and she did not put me in risk. Her viral load might be undetected because the test can not detect very low levels yh?
But even if she knows she is not infectious she should still tell me yh? She called me her soul mate and met me almost daily for 6 months and we also went on a 2 nights weekend holiday, she said we should meet each others parents and that i should tell my dad about her and she even joked about marriage which would be years away but she did not tell me this until 6 months when i was already completely committed and madly in love. ??
But even if she knows she is not infectious she should still tell me yh? She called me her soul mate and met me almost daily for 6 months and we also went on a 2 nights weekend holiday, she said we should meet each others parents and that i should tell my dad about her and she even joked about marriage which would be years away but she did not tell me this until 6 months when i was already completely committed and madly in love. ??
This girl was my girlfriend for 6 months after which she revealed her hep b.
There are some scenarios as to why your gf didn't reveal her hepB status to you:
-As you previously said she was told by her doctor that she is not infectious. I don't rule out that her doctor could have told her so as there are many "ignorant" GP's out there who do not have enough basic knowledge of the hepB disease.
-Or she might have been dishonest and selfish against you, and therefore, putting you at risk of getting infected with hbv.
-Anyway, I beleive she must have been cautious when having sex with you, she must have used protection, and she must have revealed her hbv to you much earlier before.
-As I said repeatedly, there is no such as non-infectious hbv carrier; all hbv carriers are infectious regardless of whether they are hbeag+or-,and regardless of their hbv dna quantity. The degree of infectivity might be higher in those patients with hbeag+ and high degree of replication as seen by thousands of IU/ml of hbv dna. But anyone with hbsag positivity is potentially infectious.
-As you previously said she was told by her doctor that she is not infectious. I don't rule out that her doctor could have told her so as there are many "ignorant" GP's out there who do not have enough basic knowledge of the hepB disease.
-Or she might have been dishonest and selfish against you, and therefore, putting you at risk of getting infected with hbv.
-Anyway, I beleive she must have been cautious when having sex with you, she must have used protection, and she must have revealed her hbv to you much earlier before.
-As I said repeatedly, there is no such as non-infectious hbv carrier; all hbv carriers are infectious regardless of whether they are hbeag+or-,and regardless of their hbv dna quantity. The degree of infectivity might be higher in those patients with hbeag+ and high degree of replication as seen by thousands of IU/ml of hbv dna. But anyone with hbsag positivity is potentially infectious.
Thank you so much. She doesnt go to a GP, she has a professional doctor in India for monitoring her yearly blood results. Her sister is also active atm and the mom was active at some point too. Thats why there is no way that she has only half the information about her condition. Her other excuse was that her dad and her sisters husbands never got if from their wives and she knows many people who havent got it from thier partners - isnt that the most silly excuse ever, even if its true?
I think she did risk it because she thought or knows that the risk is very very low? I dont think her doctor really told her that she is not infectious as i dont think any specialist doctor would say that?
Also, she could have just been selfish by giving me sex first as she may have thought that by giving a guy sex i might get blinded by love/sex and that when she reveals her hep b i wouldnt think of leaving her?
She didnt even at least find out if i have got the vaccinations can you imagine?
She says i am making a small issue very big..is this true?
I think she did risk it because she thought or knows that the risk is very very low? I dont think her doctor really told her that she is not infectious as i dont think any specialist doctor would say that?
Also, she could have just been selfish by giving me sex first as she may have thought that by giving a guy sex i might get blinded by love/sex and that when she reveals her hep b i wouldnt think of leaving her?
She didnt even at least find out if i have got the vaccinations can you imagine?
She says i am making a small issue very big..is this true?
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chill dude dont take stress and don't fill this website with mixing hep b and your relationship dont take our suggestions i'll be blunt you have your own brain you know what's wrong and right for you everyone is different so are there suggestions so at the end of the day its you who have to decide .....so dont spam this with relations just say no if you dont want to stay into relationship with that girl if you think she is cunning.....dont mix your emotions with decisions.Be a man when you take decisions no one will come to help you.
hep b is hep b doesnt matter active or inactive so take your own call like a man straight yes or no. Be bold dude either this world will eat you.
thank you
Also, you being a carrier know about this condition. I do not know anything. Im actually trying to be understanding of my girlfriend so im finding out information online.
I dont want you to tell me what to do. I just want your opinion as you have the condition. I have explained my whole situation above so do you think it was right what she did or not? Simple. I dont even know if a inactive carrier with undetected hbv dna is infectious or not as everyone says different things.
You guys know better. So if you have a answer you can answer me..but if you dont have an answer let others answer me.
Im not a doctor to know about this condition and i cant go to one either. So you guys are the best help i can get to make a informed decision about wether my girlfriend did something wrong to me or not (just want your opinion).
HEP B is not something everyone knows about and its come as a shock to me when my girlfriend told me she is a carrier..but the fact that she knew it even before we started dating and didnt tell me is a big issue. If she was diagnosed after we were already dating i would be by her side. I will make a decision and i will make the right one!
If you could help with what you think about the situation, rather then asking me to make a decision over something completely new to me then i will appreciate.
Cheers guys
I dont want you to tell me what to do. I just want your opinion as you have the condition. I have explained my whole situation above so do you think it was right what she did or not? Simple. I dont even know if a inactive carrier with undetected hbv dna is infectious or not as everyone says different things.
You guys know better. So if you have a answer you can answer me..but if you dont have an answer let others answer me.
Im not a doctor to know about this condition and i cant go to one either. So you guys are the best help i can get to make a informed decision about wether my girlfriend did something wrong to me or not (just want your opinion).
HEP B is not something everyone knows about and its come as a shock to me when my girlfriend told me she is a carrier..but the fact that she knew it even before we started dating and didnt tell me is a big issue. If she was diagnosed after we were already dating i would be by her side. I will make a decision and i will make the right one!
If you could help with what you think about the situation, rather then asking me to make a decision over something completely new to me then i will appreciate.
Cheers guys
look it came as shock to me too when you are nurtured very well from your childhood dint had any health issue and suddenly in this jan i came to know about it i am just 24 but still this is a part of life as life is not constant and lme clear you about this disease if your viral load is high than its active and you take your one pill a day daily no worries you can have a healthy n full life may be it can disappear too in india 35 million people have it and only 5 % knows about it, the ones who knows are lucky.
Regarding relationship the day i got about it that i have hepb i told everything to my gf still she was with me at that time we had sex everything as she was vaccinated and dint had prob with it. Still we parted ways man we broked up due to some other reason so thats why i said to you its you who have to take a decision and please dont mind my words i was just speaking it bluntly.
Regarding relationship the day i got about it that i have hepb i told everything to my gf still she was with me at that time we had sex everything as she was vaccinated and dint had prob with it. Still we parted ways man we broked up due to some other reason so thats why i said to you its you who have to take a decision and please dont mind my words i was just speaking it bluntly.
Thanks man. Honestly, all i want is you to tell me what YOU THINK of my situation in YOUR opinion what you would do. Thats it.
Who told u inactive carriers are not infectious. They are equally infectious.
Don't tell Ur partner anything because it is very likely she may leave u coz stigma against hep b is very high and offensive in society. Very few people can understand Ur situation. Life is most precious to everyone. Despite u explain everything to ur partner she may always be suspicious on ur State.
If u love her and want her safety simply start vaccinating her and check her anti-hbs levels till they become high enuff.
Then go for marriage or sex whatever u want and tell her after 2-3 years or no need to tell even longer if u feel not necessary.
My answer may seem unethical but is more practical and a bit selfish like the whole world. Everyone cares for themself. Majority people take no chance discriminating hep b people. So it's better to live with secracy and caring ourself and our loved once wisefully.
Don't tell Ur partner anything because it is very likely she may leave u coz stigma against hep b is very high and offensive in society. Very few people can understand Ur situation. Life is most precious to everyone. Despite u explain everything to ur partner she may always be suspicious on ur State.
If u love her and want her safety simply start vaccinating her and check her anti-hbs levels till they become high enuff.
Then go for marriage or sex whatever u want and tell her after 2-3 years or no need to tell even longer if u feel not necessary.
My answer may seem unethical but is more practical and a bit selfish like the whole world. Everyone cares for themself. Majority people take no chance discriminating hep b people. So it's better to live with secracy and caring ourself and our loved once wisefully.
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Some Doctor on another site wrote this to me:
Hepatitis B e antigen is a marker of a high degree of infectivity and correlates with a high level of HBV replication.
A positive HBeAb usually means no replication is occurring
If the patient has HBsAG POSITIVE, but Negative for HBeAg, then it would be considered as a INACTIVE CARRIER but NON-INFECTIVE status.
Such HBsAg-positive / HBeAg-negative subjects with normal liver biochemistry, have a good prognosis with a low risk of complications.
But, they still need prolonged biochemical and virological follow-up are mandatory for diagnosis and decision to treat.
IS HE WRONG?
CAN OTHERS READING THIS PLEASE ALSO ANSWER IF YOU THINK HE IS WRONG OR RIGHT?
Hepatitis B e antigen is a marker of a high degree of infectivity and correlates with a high level of HBV replication.
A positive HBeAb usually means no replication is occurring
If the patient has HBsAG POSITIVE, but Negative for HBeAg, then it would be considered as a INACTIVE CARRIER but NON-INFECTIVE status.
Such HBsAg-positive / HBeAg-negative subjects with normal liver biochemistry, have a good prognosis with a low risk of complications.
But, they still need prolonged biochemical and virological follow-up are mandatory for diagnosis and decision to treat.
IS HE WRONG?
CAN OTHERS READING THIS PLEASE ALSO ANSWER IF YOU THINK HE IS WRONG OR RIGHT?
And i dont think you will get someone who will trust you if
And i dont think you will ever get someone who will trust you if you do that. Maybe that peson will also loose their love for you for not being honest.
Your partner would never trust you if you do that and maybe they would also loose their love for you.
I think the doctor who gave you this info about hepB is somewhat wrong. The doctor told you:
"A positive HBeAb usually means no replication is occurring
If the patient has HBsAG POSITIVE, but Negative for HBeAg, then it would be considered as a INACTIVE CARRIER but NON-INFECTIVE status." This claim is wrong; if I take myself as an example, I'm HbeAb+ and HbeAg-, yet, my hbv dna reaches upto 3000IU/ml, and my hbsag quantity was measuered about 17000IU/ml; these measurements tell me that my hbv is indeed replicating and I'm quite infectious to others.
So I would never engage in unprotected sex with others unless I'm sure the person is 100% protected from the disease by vaccination. As a chronic hbv carrier, I would never wish this sneaky virus to other people, though I know their odds of developing chronic hepB in adult age are minimal.
Remember only about 5% of those infected as adults progress to chronic hbv; but this is not a reason to be irresponsible about the disease.
"A positive HBeAb usually means no replication is occurring
If the patient has HBsAG POSITIVE, but Negative for HBeAg, then it would be considered as a INACTIVE CARRIER but NON-INFECTIVE status." This claim is wrong; if I take myself as an example, I'm HbeAb+ and HbeAg-, yet, my hbv dna reaches upto 3000IU/ml, and my hbsag quantity was measuered about 17000IU/ml; these measurements tell me that my hbv is indeed replicating and I'm quite infectious to others.
So I would never engage in unprotected sex with others unless I'm sure the person is 100% protected from the disease by vaccination. As a chronic hbv carrier, I would never wish this sneaky virus to other people, though I know their odds of developing chronic hepB in adult age are minimal.
Remember only about 5% of those infected as adults progress to chronic hbv; but this is not a reason to be irresponsible about the disease.
I will not start any sexual activity till or after his/her checkup and if not already vaccinated I will encourage and help her/him to get vaccinated
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Thank you
Before I start any dialogue about my condition, I will educate my partner about hepb. Let him/her read some of the articles out there and get some understanding of it, then I would suggest a test if - and a vaccine. Then I am ready to tell him/her about my status.
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and when would this be? how long into a relationship?
and would you have sex before revealing it just because an inactive carrier is not infectious?
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