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comment needed for f3 hbv (hbeag became negative) patient please


Dear All,

My mum was diagnosed cirrhosis. 6 months ago I posted a question about it thanks to stef2011 I had some advises. her situation is changed.
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Hepatitis-B/cirrhosis-diag---help-and-advice-needed-for-reading-results-/show/2047474#post_9686062

Below is the story. I am worrying about the strategy that her doctor following at the moment.
I need your advises. She was using entecavir 0.5.
After 6 month with entecavir 0.5, her hbeag became negative and her doctor
Increased entecavir to 1mg instead of combining with tenofovir.

I appreciate a lot, please if you can have a look and answer my questions in regard to her results.

1/ do you think increasing entecavir to 1mg is a good idea? (what should we expect? Or how can we understand increasing to 1mg works?)

2/ what exactly means that hbeag became (-)? Is virus mutated and hbvdna is not representing number of virus anymore?

3/ hbvdna seems going down but not still undetectable is it a bad sign?

4/ since she is f3 and not f4, would interferon be useful for her? Or let me ask if q hbsag is lower than 1000 would she still be able start interferon?
(I know I need info of q hbsag and genotype but in turkey they do not check :(  that I am now trying to find a lab to know)

5/ any advices ?

historical info;

4th november 2013 ====> started entekavir 0.5
hbv-dna=1020000 IU/ml
alt 40 U/L (ref 33)
ast 51 U/L (ref 32)
hbeag +

27th november 2013
hbv-dna=16400 IU/ml
alt 22 U/L (ref 33)
ast 25 U/L (ref 32)
hbeag +

17 december 2013
Fibroscan median 10.5 kpa (206 db/m  ====> F3 diagnosed!!!!)

27 february 2014
Hbv-dna = 696 iu/ml
Alt 26
Ast 21
hbeag +

04 april 2014
Alt 19
Ast 24
hbeag  grey zone
Antihbe grey zone

30april 2014  =====> entecavir incremented to 1 mg :(
Hbv-dna = 696 iu/ml
Alt 26
Ast 21
hbeag (-) ===> became negative
Hbeab (+)

P.s: she did not start vitd3 and gmcaf yet, she lives in Mediterranean region of turkey there are a lot of sun + she follows diet (berry fruit etc) ; fresh vegy, fruits etc, walking 2 times a day.

Thanks in advance!
halit
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if hbvdna 75iu/ml keep etv 1mg and check that it gets undetectable.no need of tdf add on at all

do check hbsag as soon as possible, when hbeag gets negative hbsag should be very low around 1500iu/ml
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Don't worry, less virus better for liver. Fortunately the liver is the only human organ that regenerates itself.
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from my understanding, the imune system kills the infected cells, so when the hbsag and hbvdna goes down, the liver cells are under attack and the fibrosis is rising
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I am just curious how come her Hbsag level and hbvdna level decrease but fibrosis increase?
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Everything is ok, for heptech just send them an email for help on how ordering

i hope you see same fast results as me and fibroscan starts lowering at next check by 6 mknths
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btw, i thought my mum was using viread but i see that it is zentovir  
it is also tenofovir. I hope there is no difference :(
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the latest hbvdan is 20iu/ml
the latest alt -> in july it was 19. (I will check again)


I ordered two box of each

Liposomal Curcumin Cu (II)
Liposomal Resveratrol
Liposomal Glutathione
Liposomal Vitamin C

I sent an email to heptech apparently I cannot buy directly from web.
Can you guide me how to buy from belgium?

I also sent an email to gcmaf.eu, before ordering I sent them an email with the results I had.

I checked fish oil from amazon especially from nordic naturals the max dha and epa I was able to find is;
https://www.nordicnaturals.com/uk/uk_nl_Arctic_CLO_Liq.php

I ordered 2 bottle.

I hope it is OK?


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