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Relacore to reduce Abdominal Fat/Increase Energy/Boost Immune System by Controlling Cortisol ?- INA
Saw a TV ad for "Relacore" and visited a few web sites.
In short, apparently some recent university studies show a relationship between the stress hormone, Cortisol, and abdominal fat -- the kind of fat that increases the risks of heart attacks.
Relacore and similiar acting products like Cortidrene, Therastress, Cortislim, etc. claim to reduce abdominal fat by controlling the stress hormone cortisone partly through a mild sedative effect of one of its active ingredients, Magnolia Bark.
Since treatment I've noticed a worsening lipid profile as well as more of a propensity for fat to accumulate on my abdomen than pre-treatment. My liver specialist recently admitted that interferon is know to accelerate the metabolic syndrome which is responsible for higher triglicerides, type II diabetes, abdominal fat and a host of other not so good stuff. Therefore my interest in Relacore or similar supplements. I flagged "Ina" (moniker Eisbein) because I believe she recently mentioned doing some research on stress hormones.
Here are some sites from a quick "Google". I know most of them are selling something but would like to get anyone's experience and/or comments. Or at least your take on the list of ingredients, whether anything is good, harmful, etc.
http://www.relacore.tv/ingredients.html
http://www.carter-reedcompany.com/relacore/
http://stress-related-weight-gain.equalitynutrition.com/?source=google/relacore
Any input appreciated.
-- Jim
In short, apparently some recent university studies show a relationship between the stress hormone, Cortisol, and abdominal fat -- the kind of fat that increases the risks of heart attacks.
Relacore and similiar acting products like Cortidrene, Therastress, Cortislim, etc. claim to reduce abdominal fat by controlling the stress hormone cortisone partly through a mild sedative effect of one of its active ingredients, Magnolia Bark.
Since treatment I've noticed a worsening lipid profile as well as more of a propensity for fat to accumulate on my abdomen than pre-treatment. My liver specialist recently admitted that interferon is know to accelerate the metabolic syndrome which is responsible for higher triglicerides, type II diabetes, abdominal fat and a host of other not so good stuff. Therefore my interest in Relacore or similar supplements. I flagged "Ina" (moniker Eisbein) because I believe she recently mentioned doing some research on stress hormones.
Here are some sites from a quick "Google". I know most of them are selling something but would like to get anyone's experience and/or comments. Or at least your take on the list of ingredients, whether anything is good, harmful, etc.
http://www.relacore.tv/ingredients.html
http://www.carter-reedcompany.com/relacore/
http://stress-related-weight-gain.equalitynutrition.com/?source=google/relacore
Any input appreciated.
-- Jim
Don't know about cortisol, but I did try a courtesan to relive stress. Worked pretty well 'til I got caught, whence there was a significant rebound. The old ying and yang thang....
As a follow up comment, I have grown leery of the supplement market, and now have come to believe that much of the stuff out there does not do anything close to what it is intended or supposed to do. I think the idea is right with Cortisol type products, but does all this new age herbal, combination stuff really have any specific medicinal effect on our production of Cortisol, or cause us to metabolize any differently? I think the real issue is that real scientific double blind testing is rarely done,(for supplements) if ever, and when they are done, are they really rigorous and controlled as in a true research laboratory???
Of course, if you check my kitchen pantry you will find about twenty odd bottles of herbals, aminos, vitamins, Sam-E, antioxidants, and everything possible that is supposed to cure our ills. I was spending about $150/month on all of the pills....and I seem to feel about the same.....crappy!!! I have lost interest in the supplementation avenue, although I will most likely continue to take some of them. Do they have ANY effect on us???? Recent studies keep pointing to NO, more than yes. My intuition tends to tell me there are some extremely rich supplement producers out there...and it has become sort of a big business 'religion'. Another path to natural health. The other rich guys are their friends running the pharmaceutical companies. Now that is REALLY rich!
Not trying to be cynical, just being honest with myself...out loud. I wonder how much I have spent on supplements over the past ten to fifteen years? Someone has a few Rolls Royces courtesy of me.
Best wishes to you. I guess we have to pick our poisons...and hope for the best. I often wonder if it is even possible to ever undo the effects of a chronic virus....or the effects of a long term powerful immune system treatment regimen. In some respects, I fear our bodies change in response to both, in immutable ways....for a lifetime. I sure hope not...but....
DoubleDose
Of course, if you check my kitchen pantry you will find about twenty odd bottles of herbals, aminos, vitamins, Sam-E, antioxidants, and everything possible that is supposed to cure our ills. I was spending about $150/month on all of the pills....and I seem to feel about the same.....crappy!!! I have lost interest in the supplementation avenue, although I will most likely continue to take some of them. Do they have ANY effect on us???? Recent studies keep pointing to NO, more than yes. My intuition tends to tell me there are some extremely rich supplement producers out there...and it has become sort of a big business 'religion'. Another path to natural health. The other rich guys are their friends running the pharmaceutical companies. Now that is REALLY rich!
Not trying to be cynical, just being honest with myself...out loud. I wonder how much I have spent on supplements over the past ten to fifteen years? Someone has a few Rolls Royces courtesy of me.
Best wishes to you. I guess we have to pick our poisons...and hope for the best. I often wonder if it is even possible to ever undo the effects of a chronic virus....or the effects of a long term powerful immune system treatment regimen. In some respects, I fear our bodies change in response to both, in immutable ways....for a lifetime. I sure hope not...but....
DoubleDose
hey jim good stuff and hope you are well. i would be very interested in any more info on this. I believe HCV alone can cause the metabolic syndrome even without ever treating. i have many of the same problems you mention, abdom fat,lipid disorders, boarderline high BP, glucose between 103-115 fasting (i think this is pre-diabetic?) and as you know i have not tx'd yet. this just re-inforces the fact that if you can wait to tx then you should. perhaps the chance of doing tx for a shorter duration with the new drugs will not allow these harsh drugs to do so much damage. anyway i have tried several different supplement regimens. my latest which is alot less complicated then others i tried has made me feel really good, morning: i take a multi without iron, complete mineral without iron, CoQ-10 60mg, liver detoxifier & regenerator by Now. afternoon: i juice "organic" carrots,beets,spinich,apples,pears,etc and konsyl fiber in water at night. the liver detox/regen product sold under the brand name NOW was developed by a doctor that i know here in NJ. after years of travel in asia and plant study in different countries he put this formula together. after clinical trials he gave the formula to the NOW company for FREE to help people with liver problems, especially hepatitis. out of all the sups so far this has made me feel the best. and not sure but i think the CoQ-10 has helped lower my BP, for the last month my BP has dropped to 110/75. before taking it, it was always around 135-140 over 80-90, and these higher #'s were with taking a BP med, 40mg micardis. of course the better BP could be from me exercising more and watching diet. or a combo of everything. the bottom line is i feel ok now and do not want to ruin that by starting tx at this time. i'm awaiting the results of the CRS (cirrhosis risk score) test and will be seeing dr "A" in boston for a fibroscan in the future then i will make a decision.
I heard it about the metabolic syndrome from my big shot hepatologist, and he's not one of those who blames everything on treatment, quite the contrary. While on treatment we rightly complain about the ribavirin but as far as I'm concerned it's the interferon that has the potential for causing the longer term and potentially permanent side effects by altering our metabolism and immune system. Don't know if Relacore, or something similar will help, but now that Western Medicine is pretty much through with me as an SVR, time to start researching elsewhere. That is not to say I'm discounting more conventional approaches and probably will end up on a statin pretty soon. Hopefully some of those more knowledgeable in vitamins, supplements, etc, will chime in on Relacore. BTW in case you missed it, scroll down to the thread titled "supplements". A lot of good stuff there.
Be well,
-- Jim
Be well,
-- Jim
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