hep c viral count and treatments

[michguy]

Hi I just had a blood test and my viral hep c count came back at 15,000,000 thats 15 million I was just wondering if that was even possible to get  that hihh and if anyone out there has had a viral count like mine or more than this and should I get anothger test done I have been through 2 different treatments interferon and then the interferon with riboviron but that was in 1998 and neither one worked well at all , does anyone know the new treatment and are they any easier to deal with the side affects and all I go see a new hepatologist tomorrow and would like to know what to ask him he is in mich at beaumont hospital please drop me a line or two thanks

[Bill1954]

Hi there,

Welcome to the discussion group. Treatment decisions are usually determined by liver biopsy or other factors. Please repost your question by clicking on the ‘post a question’ button near the top of the page; you’ve tagged onto a thread that was started in 2006, and your thoughts will get lost in here.

Bill

[daddysgirl1972]

hi  im new to all this stuff iv think i got hep c 12 years ago last month my doctor said my viral load is at 21,000,000 should think about treatment?

[B.K.]

HEY TO EVERY ONE. WHEN I FIRST STARTED TREATMENTS MY VIRAL COUNT WAS 75 MILLION. THE THIRD MONTH IN TO TREATMENT IT WENT DOWN TO 1860. THAT IS GREAT. SINSE I FINISHED TREATMENT APRIL 28TH 2006. I WENT TO THE DR. ON 5/12/2006 AND THEY ARE CHECKING ME AGAIN. BUT MY BLOOD TESTS RESULTS  CAME BACK MY WHITE BLOOD COUNT IS DOWN. ANY WAY GOOD LUCK TO EVERY ONE

[can-do-man]

Money you say?...... You got the money honey i got the time.

[beamishboy]

how about sum of yur friends fried in olive oil,wrapped inna slice of well buttered bread? wishing you well in yur trx,seems like a 2nd opinion mite be in order-GoodLuck..ohh,i'm on the letter to fish folk-yur rite about the state guys just dumpin "fish inna barrel" for the Sports who like to do drive by fishin but don't wanna get they're feet wet or any blackfly bites....i've been pushin for re-introduction of natives for couple of years...got property on St regis river& Troutbrook which use to support major population,now they keep sayin it's too warm-but,,,fish find sanctuary in the little springfed brooks midsummer...heck,they evolved right here!! so glad to hear that yu feds r on it-Good work

[dyce]

Dern fish , I was hopin for undetectable. Cando is rightmaybe yur not gettin enough riba . Being you were sick probably helped the virus out some, but you are so close to the 2 log drop , I can feel for ya . Perhaps the fork is in order for the remainin virus !

[friole]

fishdoc --I certainly would think all that milk would count as fat.  No worries there.  What about weight vs riba -- under 165# = 1000mg a day, and over 165# = 1200 mg a day, maybe you can even stand more than that.  I started out over 165# so was put on 1200mg.  Now I am under, so wear my shoes and put rocks in my pockets when I weigh in -- don't want them stinkin' docs to lower my dose.  When I got really sick in March and dropped to #153, I got even more anemic.

cando -- My day is going well.  Hey, it is Friday.  Funny how I look forward to shot night ( only the peg -I don't look forward to the Neup or Proc) tonight.  Probably won't get my icecream doseage in tonight - doesn't seem to go with the shot too well.  I am feeling overall pretty darn good for a woman my age (LOL)

[fishdoc]

doc griped me out for only eating dairy.. I drink a whole glass of whole mile with riba... usually chase with goatyurt...

[Mister beagle bailey]

I agree with can do and dyce your not getting enough riba.  However, NYGirl was undetectable at week 24 and I bet you will be too.  Hang in there my friend.

BEAGLE

[fishdoc]

yea yea, best interest my buttocks... your after my money...;)

[can-do-man]

I hear you on that. Not much to choose from. You know i have only your best interest at heart. I added willing and jim to it. Will try and see they catch it. Take care girl

[fishdoc]

Well, you have to remember I'm in the middle of nowhere... a consult is a 200 mile trip.....anywhere any direction... theres a reason the aliens chose this area to crash land... just a perspective: NM is the 5th largest state, last time I heard a census, we were at like 1.5 million people, and 60% of them live in the albuquerque/sante fe areas..(200-270 miles north). that means lots of wide open spaces for the rest of us, but Docs, and especially good docs are a rare commodity.  Also, last biopsy was in 1999....and I have had SLIGHTLY elevated ALT/AST for a year and a half....long and short of it, I'll stick with this horse for a while..... see what is happening at 24 weeks..and then make a decision... it will be interesting to get JmJMs opinion, if he finds the threads!!  I hear you on that, the way I feel these days if I don't respond to something, I didn't open that thread at all....lots I don't read..take care, ....

[NYgirl]

Wow that is some high number they aren't teasin!  are you taking the Riba with FAT to make sure it is absorbed?

[can-do-man]

Hey gal, all those numbers are great except one. Are you on the right dose of riba? You know with all that extra hair weight your careing. Might want to talk to your doctor about a new aproach. Your hgb is great so maybe a little more riba. You might want to post this during the day and get some ideals. Your a responder, just not as fast as you need to be. Take care gal.

[can-do-man]

Do talk to your doctor, maybe even a consult with another. In all these years your bx. 3 1/2 years ago showed only a stage 0 and grade 1. So this seems to be moving very slow with you. More people without hep-c have worse damage. I'm no study expert but do have SOME common sense. These meds are some serious stuff. If you been reading the board then you've seen long term effects from these meds. Not saying you should quit but you need to remember the risks vs reward with this stuff. You don't want to kill yourself trying to cure yourself. And i would think it would be safe to say your liver isn't much worse now then 3 years ago. Our odds go way down with out at least close to the 2 log drop. At least disuss what you should do with another doc besides the one you have. You know i only have what i think (Which for whats thats worth) your best interest at heart. Now don't go get that pitchfork out.

[can-do-man]

I wondered the same thing about the riba since her hgb has stayed the same. Might not mean anything but after 12 weeks you would think some drop would happen. Hope your having a great day

[friole]

Damn - I don't like those numbers. Just a thought, but how much Riba are you taking -- your hgb is so high still, and that can be an indication of the riba absorption not high enough.  I didn't know you were in Roswell -- in fact, for some reason I thought you were in California - where I got that from, who knows.  I love Roswell -- it's about 5 hours from here.  Hubby has relatives there and we have been there a lot.  I realize 200 miles is far for a consult, but it still might be something to consider.  
Kathy

[Hepkitten]

My hubby was 45 million, but I said don't worry, it just sounds like a lot, like Italian money.

[goldyn]

Michguy I was 15,000,000 1a going into tx cleared at 12week pcr coming up on 24 weeks hope its just as good.


Fishdoc some mighty good slayin goin on and look at your stats they are great your alt all in the 20s and no need of rescue drugs your doin great.......

[fishdoc]

Hey pretty, strange, I cut the hair on my head off for the rash on my back, and I don't cut the hair on my legs and pits because of the rash.... i am totally befuddled....


Thanks for the encouragement, as always strator.  Like I said, the buggers could drop or add ten thousand copies in an hour, so I am content that they dropped two orders of magnitude... good enough for me...

[OnAPrettyPoison]

Ha!  Nothing can stand up to a determined Fishdoc shaking her finger at it!  I am surprised you didn't use it on the cute little gay guy that cut your hair!  I would have had to ask if he mistook my head for my pits!  Or at least I would have asked for matching pits!

[strator]

michguy-I 'm on week 34/48, a 1a and my starting VL was 18.7million. At 24weeks I was still at 3140. As far as the new meds and sx I guess the ones that could compare that best are the poeple who have been through tx a few times. Wish you the best.

fishdoc- The finger of doom, the pitchfork of doom...but never the attitude of doom, I like it. I'm sure you've kicked some riff raff out of haystacks before. I was slightly dissapointed at the 12week being , but my doc hadn't even wanted to do one. He said look your doing 48wks no matter what,  why let the numbers mess with your head.
One thing I was told about a finish line, it's still there whether you come in at the front of the pack or the end.
I would not want to be one of the riff raff you were chasing dangerous Lady. Be Well and don't be your usual dainty self with them BAst***s, put on the big shoes and squish.

CDMan- speaking of Riff Raff young man..you've been a little too quiet..if I find out you've been sneaking out of your room I'm gonna have ya cleaning up 'used' fudgicles for a week! Speak UP!

[zzzztime]

i'm at 27,000,000 geno 1a i'm trying to decide weather to start tx or not. my doc said that its a very high load but he still rec. tx. I did see another doc. that said there is a clinical trial going on that i would be perfect for, being a 1a and high vrl. but I'm not a candidate due to a bleeding poblem. maybe you could look into that. sorry i don't know anymore about it maybe someone else here does.

[fishdoc]

Hey pretty, nope, not yet, just picked up copies, but as a geneticist,  i know the process of viral replication... I can make like a million copies of DNA in an hour, virus are nothing but DNA, so from one hour to next, jumping 10,000 viral particles is just as likely as not, and I felt soooo bad last week, the virus just had a neckup on me.  When I say I am not concerned, I am really not.... the BAst***s arent through with me yet... they haven't met the "finger of doom"....