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Anti Depressant Type and Experiances Needed
I will start my 2nd TX in April. During last TX I used Lexapro 20mg. I believe it made me nauseous more than the TX. I would still get Ribavirin rage a little at times too.
I think the choice may be more individual than TX related but would like to hear what some of you folks tried and used.
I think the choice may be more individual than TX related but would like to hear what some of you folks tried and used.
I am on wellbutrin and seems t be working well but it does have caffine in it so you should take that in to consideration as not everyone can take it
X2 on Wellbutrin. It works for me, is really not noticeable, and I've actually stopped smoking for the first time in 30+ years!
Tried Lexapro. It was zombie dust. Felt woozy and vague. YMMV, of course.
Tried Lexapro. It was zombie dust. Felt woozy and vague. YMMV, of course.
We feel like **** on tx, so quitting adds very little to the experience. Wellbutrin damps down the cravings. Go for it!
Im on effexor XR 150 and so far so good..I havent been on tx but to weeks. hope you find what works for you.
I'm kind of amazed at how fast everone goes right to adding more drugs to thier bodies. Unless I was one of the people that had to live with depression my whole life I would not take any anti depressant.
If I am the type of person that has low days and struggles to see things in a better light, Well then thats my leason in life and just like all hard work there is gratitude for even the smallest of improvement.
But it seems as if most people choose to eat pills to not have to deal with thier natural being.
Tx put me into a deep depression, it was very difficult I mean very difficult. My Doctor really wanted me to get on antidepressents. I did not and even though there were a few days I thought I could not take it any more, I knew tx was not going to last and all these symptoms of tx would end.
Working though troubles of past or now is much more benefial then poping pills as if thats the solution to your problems and the symptoms of those problems making you feel bad.
I think we are not magazine covers and don't need to be hearded into an idea of what emotional health should be presented by drug companies or know it all therapists.
Learn to deal with who you are and not who you think a pill can make.
I found the depression from tx very beneficial in that it gave me the chance to release some yrs of emotion that was held up of different reasons.
If I am the type of person that has low days and struggles to see things in a better light, Well then thats my leason in life and just like all hard work there is gratitude for even the smallest of improvement.
But it seems as if most people choose to eat pills to not have to deal with thier natural being.
Tx put me into a deep depression, it was very difficult I mean very difficult. My Doctor really wanted me to get on antidepressents. I did not and even though there were a few days I thought I could not take it any more, I knew tx was not going to last and all these symptoms of tx would end.
Working though troubles of past or now is much more benefial then poping pills as if thats the solution to your problems and the symptoms of those problems making you feel bad.
I think we are not magazine covers and don't need to be hearded into an idea of what emotional health should be presented by drug companies or know it all therapists.
Learn to deal with who you are and not who you think a pill can make.
I found the depression from tx very beneficial in that it gave me the chance to release some yrs of emotion that was held up of different reasons.
While I am glad that you have not had to deal with AD's. I am offended that you would suggest that it is not needed.
Many of us have already had major bouts of depression in our lives and needed some assistance to get thru in addition to counseling. Been there done that 2 times in my life and got thru it and went off the AD's after it was over. They helped me to get thru a very rough time. No I have not dealt with depression "all my life" as you suggest are the only people who should take them. But just as treatment for HCV is helping me now to fight this so did AD's when I was fighting another type of problem. And yes I did try to not take them for far longer than I should have and my family suffered for it. If AD's can help someone on TX especially with any history of depression then they should be taken. The Physical and emotional problems that TX causes can be dibilitating as it is, and our partners and children should not have to take the brunt of that part of TX also. Especially whwen a lil ole pill can prevent it.
Many of us have already had major bouts of depression in our lives and needed some assistance to get thru in addition to counseling. Been there done that 2 times in my life and got thru it and went off the AD's after it was over. They helped me to get thru a very rough time. No I have not dealt with depression "all my life" as you suggest are the only people who should take them. But just as treatment for HCV is helping me now to fight this so did AD's when I was fighting another type of problem. And yes I did try to not take them for far longer than I should have and my family suffered for it. If AD's can help someone on TX especially with any history of depression then they should be taken. The Physical and emotional problems that TX causes can be dibilitating as it is, and our partners and children should not have to take the brunt of that part of TX also. Especially whwen a lil ole pill can prevent it.
Depression on tx is a side effect of the drugs, not your own life's problems. The people you care about already have their hands full with the zillion problems through treatment. If you're having "psyciatric effects" , using proper meds is as much for them as for you.
Depression can be a serious side effect from treatment, not just "life problems" that Move refers too. I was on Zoloft when I started treatment and had to up my dosage. I also took Ativan when needed for the anxiety and panic attacks I experienced.
I've been on ADs for most of the past 15 years. Spent about 3 years with a "know it all therapist." She saved my life.
The drug companies spend a ton of money advertising their drugs and many doctors over-prescribe in my opinion. However, those of us who do need ADs should not be afraid to ask.
I hated filling my body with toxins while on treatment. I did 48/48 of Peg/Copeg, Procrit, Zoloft, Ativan, Zyrtec, Tylenol, Benedryl and some other odds and ends along the way. I did what I needed to do to get through treatment. Today, 2 years later, only the Zoloft remains. The body does heal itself over time.
Gail
I've been on ADs for most of the past 15 years. Spent about 3 years with a "know it all therapist." She saved my life.
The drug companies spend a ton of money advertising their drugs and many doctors over-prescribe in my opinion. However, those of us who do need ADs should not be afraid to ask.
I hated filling my body with toxins while on treatment. I did 48/48 of Peg/Copeg, Procrit, Zoloft, Ativan, Zyrtec, Tylenol, Benedryl and some other odds and ends along the way. I did what I needed to do to get through treatment. Today, 2 years later, only the Zoloft remains. The body does heal itself over time.
Gail
Depression is often mis-understood and misdiagnosed. It is a physical condition and the cause CAN be from life situations. But, for many, it has a physiological beginning. When this is the case, no amount of soul searching, counseling, etc. will ever correct the imbalance. It may help the person deal with it but is only a bandaid. Until the chemical imbalance is balanced again, the problem will remain.
For folks living with depression, AD's can be a lifesaver, literally! If there is an underlying physical problem that can be "fixed" (thyroid, etc) that makes tx even better and may eventually delete the need for an AD. You have to find the root cause of the depression and go from there.
3 mo post tx, I just went thru the worst depression I have ever felt (and I have had some bad bouts in my life). There were a couple days I really thought I should be locked away! Yes, my TSH is up meaning maybe something is happening there but to wait and put myself and family through this would have been irresponsible. Not to mention what it was doing to my body.
I'm glad you can handle any depression you may have without meds but don't knock those that need them.
miss
For folks living with depression, AD's can be a lifesaver, literally! If there is an underlying physical problem that can be "fixed" (thyroid, etc) that makes tx even better and may eventually delete the need for an AD. You have to find the root cause of the depression and go from there.
3 mo post tx, I just went thru the worst depression I have ever felt (and I have had some bad bouts in my life). There were a couple days I really thought I should be locked away! Yes, my TSH is up meaning maybe something is happening there but to wait and put myself and family through this would have been irresponsible. Not to mention what it was doing to my body.
I'm glad you can handle any depression you may have without meds but don't knock those that need them.
miss
well, it must be nice to be so full of yourself. Congratulations on being so much tuffer than most, and BTW their is nothing "natural" about tx....and if you chose to burden yourself and your family with the depression associated with tx, well your just a swell kinda guy.........
If its legal where you are, smoke a joint. In fact, grow your own--from seed to weed. the gardening is good for mind, body and soul. Gardening is known to help restore mental and emotional wellness.
so if its legal where you are, try medical marijuana and yoga and walking and gardening.
Marijuana was made illegal on immagration and racial grounds-not medical. So light a joint and fight race-based laws.
Now someone will go all 'Kramer' on me b/hey, that anger isn't mine. After all, I was end stage, poor and uninsured. couldn't afford Rx's and multiple doc visits. I had to go 'natural.' Now I'm 4 1/2 yrs svr, infected in 1967 via transfusion, and insured and cured.
What could be better-healed and happy and able to enjoy all my retirement and trust funds. 59 1/2 yrs and svr ain't so bad!!
so if its legal where you are, try medical marijuana and yoga and walking and gardening.
Marijuana was made illegal on immagration and racial grounds-not medical. So light a joint and fight race-based laws.
Now someone will go all 'Kramer' on me b/hey, that anger isn't mine. After all, I was end stage, poor and uninsured. couldn't afford Rx's and multiple doc visits. I had to go 'natural.' Now I'm 4 1/2 yrs svr, infected in 1967 via transfusion, and insured and cured.
What could be better-healed and happy and able to enjoy all my retirement and trust funds. 59 1/2 yrs and svr ain't so bad!!
I delt more with anxiety, but did have some little bouts of the blues during tx, I have a strong Belief in the Lord and Prayed a whole bunch, but on tx I needed something to help with the anxiety , I chose Ativan its not an ad but a pill you can take when you need it, I have 5 kids and worked with preschoolers 30 hours a week, and i just finished 48 weeks of tx, and im gonna be honest that I truly needed a little help with staying some what calm amist all the sides of tx , and if you need something to help you through you take it, just always keep a check on yourself just to make sure your makin through just fine....
I said what I said because there seems to be a pill for everything nowadays. And if you read what I wrote, On tx there is a finish date so for me even though I was deeply depressedI knew it was not going to last, and the work I refered to was not screaming my head of at the littlest things. My children pushed me as children do and I talked it through with my support group.
The suffering that my kids did feel, they knew what it was from and we as a family talked.
From really wanting to slam my car into others while on tx to telling myself the worst of messages, I used all the tools I had to learn, grow and not give in to the out of control moments.
Taking pills to me even if your going thru a once in a life time low is just numbing the true leason that needs to bs learned. And with all the easy talk about poping this pill or that pill it seems like the whole human race is heading for a placid non expressed excistence.
You know the saying "its better to burn out then fade away" well how about "its better to feel then to fade into"
The suffering that my kids did feel, they knew what it was from and we as a family talked.
From really wanting to slam my car into others while on tx to telling myself the worst of messages, I used all the tools I had to learn, grow and not give in to the out of control moments.
Taking pills to me even if your going thru a once in a life time low is just numbing the true leason that needs to bs learned. And with all the easy talk about poping this pill or that pill it seems like the whole human race is heading for a placid non expressed excistence.
You know the saying "its better to burn out then fade away" well how about "its better to feel then to fade into"
I didn't try any AD's but I did get some Xanax which is an anti-anxiety. It allowed me to sleep at night. The problem came when it was time to quit the Xanax. I could not sleep without it. Yes. I was addicted!
To break the addiction to Xanax, I had to stay awake for 3 nights in a row until my body started to make seratonin again. Now I know where John Lennon got the inspiration for the song Cold Turkey! Ouch! However, I think it was worth it at least to sleep during Tx.
To break the addiction to Xanax, I had to stay awake for 3 nights in a row until my body started to make seratonin again. Now I know where John Lennon got the inspiration for the song Cold Turkey! Ouch! However, I think it was worth it at least to sleep during Tx.
Good Grief...what u doing now??? Just a week or so ago, you said you were ready to try something yourself...besides a padded room remember?? This is tuff stuff, and you know it. Why you actin like this?
I think tolerance and kindness are needed in this world and surely we on this forum can accept there are different view points and different ways to do things. I sometimes feel like we follow orders too well, whether that is from the magazines or our doctors, but settecasi1 asked specifically about antidepressents and it is his/her option to take them if they choose. The bottom line, in my view, is whatever works.
settecasi1, I haven't done tx yet but I started on paxil and quit because I slept contstantly. I've tried lowering the dosage and came to the opinion that I will wait and see if I feel I need the antidepressents or not. I don't like the brain-stuffed-with-wool feeling they made in my mind. I agree if you have no problems with pot, you may be able to get a script, as I did, for having hep C.
Wishing everyone a good Thanksgiving.
settecasi1, I haven't done tx yet but I started on paxil and quit because I slept contstantly. I've tried lowering the dosage and came to the opinion that I will wait and see if I feel I need the antidepressents or not. I don't like the brain-stuffed-with-wool feeling they made in my mind. I agree if you have no problems with pot, you may be able to get a script, as I did, for having hep C.
Wishing everyone a good Thanksgiving.
I have shared what I did since being on here without holding back and some of thoughs moments were very tough. Even yesterday I was giving myself the worst messages. I was ripping myself apart. Very low self esteem. I am trying to say that those moments pass. I am trying to say that life does not throw blanks. That even in the worst of times the is good that can come out of it. I shared those bad moments because I knew that would not last {though at those moments it didnt seem like they would} And I knew I would be back on here recovered {in a sense} from that last moment. And that by sharing someone else might see that no matter how bad the bad can get, that it will end so hold on. And in my case adding another drug because of moments that will not last is worth it, and more then not worth it, it is numbing to where my life has brought me, to get throught the other side without being altered more.
If you read my first post in this thread I did not include people that maybe life suffers of depression and since tx I have gained alot of what it must be like to live like that
If you read my first post in this thread I did not include people that maybe life suffers of depression and since tx I have gained alot of what it must be like to live like that
MUST BE NICE to conquer all. Invensible are we. Judge yourself, but do not judge others. You haven't a clue what you are talking about.
I have been given the tools to make it through situations in life and I learned very well from them. But that does not mean I do not need help in certain situations. When I first started tx, I also refused to go on AD's, finally gave in at 13 Weeks of tx. I could not stand myself, so how could I expect anyone else to put up with me. And how incrediably SELFISH of me to continue to put everyone around me through h*ll.
So, do you have the same opinion of people on CANCER TREATMENTs, if you do, you are truely clueless to life and all it brings including the rescue drugs. I have had many, many very close family members with cancer and let me tell you the rescue drugs are needed. My mom and sister had breast removed and my husband had a hard bout with Hodgskins and the rescue drugs were needed, and not like you had a choice. TX is no different, it is it's own form of CHEMO.
Good ONE MIKE SIMON; I much agree with your statement.
Don't mean to offend anyone, just trying to make it seen in a different light. REALITY
Cajun
I have been given the tools to make it through situations in life and I learned very well from them. But that does not mean I do not need help in certain situations. When I first started tx, I also refused to go on AD's, finally gave in at 13 Weeks of tx. I could not stand myself, so how could I expect anyone else to put up with me. And how incrediably SELFISH of me to continue to put everyone around me through h*ll.
So, do you have the same opinion of people on CANCER TREATMENTs, if you do, you are truely clueless to life and all it brings including the rescue drugs. I have had many, many very close family members with cancer and let me tell you the rescue drugs are needed. My mom and sister had breast removed and my husband had a hard bout with Hodgskins and the rescue drugs were needed, and not like you had a choice. TX is no different, it is it's own form of CHEMO.
Good ONE MIKE SIMON; I much agree with your statement.
Don't mean to offend anyone, just trying to make it seen in a different light. REALITY
Cajun
Awe, I hear ya, but I guess since my Dr. won't give me an AD, and I REALLY need one, I get upset about the "tuffies".
This has been so UNNESSESARY to go through w/out any meds for me, why do it like this if you don't have to???? I mean, this SUX!!!!!!!
This has been so UNNESSESARY to go through w/out any meds for me, why do it like this if you don't have to???? I mean, this SUX!!!!!!!
I did not tell anyone not to take more drugs and I do not think I conquered anything. I am giving another point of veiw and I think One that is needed. Drugs or given out or should I say accepted to easily. Kids are given speed to calm them down and we grown ups seem to be taking anything in order not to feel.
I would not tell anyone not to take drugs but am saying that even with tx depression there is another way and saying big time that it certinly does seem that way to many people are taking drugs to ease life
I would not tell anyone not to take drugs but am saying that even with tx depression there is another way and saying big time that it certinly does seem that way to many people are taking drugs to ease life
Well, moveabove, heh, good for you.
I am a bit high strung anyway. I do not take anything but on TX I have too, to keep from loosing all my friends and my job. Heh.
Thanks for all the replies.
And Rev, I'm an old pot head but I just have to be safe and not got there. I find it all the time during hunting season, all budding and such. My will power is amazing.
I am a bit high strung anyway. I do not take anything but on TX I have too, to keep from loosing all my friends and my job. Heh.
Thanks for all the replies.
And Rev, I'm an old pot head but I just have to be safe and not got there. I find it all the time during hunting season, all budding and such. My will power is amazing.
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