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How likely are we to faint/collapse with anemia?
My boss has been really good about not making me travel the last few months... but he's really gearing me up for the fall season. I have to do a long day tomorrow, 8 hours of driving, plus a 5 hour meeting. I have to walk quite a ways... my HBG is sitting at 11.8, three weeks ago, but I feel like can mans sitting on my chest, I get light headed really easy.... my question: how do you know when its not light headed, I am going to collapse on the nasty streets of albuquerque, and nobody I'm with is big enough to carry me?? Seriously, does anything help? I keep thinking "if I eat something, I'll feel better"... wrong.... Open to suggestions from other anemic travelers...
also, how often do we really just "pass out".... I would be mortified..
also, how often do we really just "pass out".... I would be mortified..
think of fish out of water, and think fishdoc out of oxygen. do anyoone look like they are passing out?
there is no way to tell when you are ready to faint sometimes. my daughter just fainted recently and all she remembers is feeling her eyes closing and the next thing she remembers is finding herself in a pile, on the bathroom floor, and a dent on the plasterboard wall. Sometimes you have a warning and sometimes you don't. Maybe upping your b vitamins like folic acid and b12 could help? oh! b6 also. Of course, you could talk to your GI to give you Procrit and a decent shot at a 'normal' quality of life.
there is no way to tell when you are ready to faint sometimes. my daughter just fainted recently and all she remembers is feeling her eyes closing and the next thing she remembers is finding herself in a pile, on the bathroom floor, and a dent on the plasterboard wall. Sometimes you have a warning and sometimes you don't. Maybe upping your b vitamins like folic acid and b12 could help? oh! b6 also. Of course, you could talk to your GI to give you Procrit and a decent shot at a 'normal' quality of life.
It's only happened twice to me that I actually passed out and both times my husband was there. For me I find I have to sit down immediately for a bit and it will pass. That helps if you feel yourself getting too woosy and your eyes start to go black. I got a little handy lightweight foldup chair thing I can pop open at any given moment which helps. Also have a spritzer bottle handy because heat makes it worse and always have a hat. I don't know if I could take the heat in NM though. You are brave!
I did sit on the floor in wally world for five minutes... i'm sure people just thought I was a drunk........but I would hate to pass out at a meeting... I did faint once as a child.... laid my head open, stitches, tetanus shot... jeeeezzzz the indignities of it all....
Ha fish , I haven't passed out yet but me brain sure does space out from the lack of o2 . Now wait a minute do I have a brain . Pulled out almost in front of 2 diff. cars yesterday, if not fer the wife who knows . I get dern liteheaded though, and have ta keep stopin in my tracks to catch my breath.
My boss told the dyce to roll on back home yesterday before I kill meself. Procrit on the noon train tomarrow and I can't wait. If I can get back to 10.5hmg. or better I'll be a happy guy.
Nothin has helped but rest fish, I'd do the wild thing but that may make the dyce pass out!
My boss told the dyce to roll on back home yesterday before I kill meself. Procrit on the noon train tomarrow and I can't wait. If I can get back to 10.5hmg. or better I'll be a happy guy.
Nothin has helped but rest fish, I'd do the wild thing but that may make the dyce pass out!
I've fainted before, from a panic attack (I know, sounds lame but it happened) for me the room went dark, and I passed out, but luckily enough I had a few seconds before I knew to start headin down and break my fall a bit...next thing I knew there was a cluch of people looking down at me...ha ha! It was more embarrassing for me then anything else for me... I think what helped me is not associating it with dying like a lot a of people do with anxiety issues, you come to again...but of course, these are prob different circumstances then yours.....hope you get it sorted out and feel better really soon...
I have never actually fainted.... the closest I have ever come to it was my vagal responce to my fear of needles... & that waqs more like a tunnel vision thing developing into a black out...
I'm lucky I guess because I was animic for both rounds & my Doc never saw fit to give me any boosters!!!
I wonder how others handle this kind of stuff... WoW!!
I'm lucky I guess because I was animic for both rounds & my Doc never saw fit to give me any boosters!!!
I wonder how others handle this kind of stuff... WoW!!
dyce, if I remember right you and can man have hit mid 9's, and haven't fainted...you know, I'm going to give the guys I'm going with directions: do not stop and talk, I have to sit down. Get me to the table before we stop and visit with every T, D, and Hairy.... Drop me off in front of the building... then go park...hopefully if I can plan ahead, I won't embarrass anyone. Sure not looking forward to it. Monday boss told me, OK- you can either go to CPR class, or you can go to Vegas for three days... I said boss, isn't there a door number 3? I chose cpr, told the nurse what my HBG was, she said sit and watch!!
wow, another person with a vagal response to fear of needles, I thought I was the only one...can I ask you what you did for it? If you want to share, if not, I completely understand...
Not sure what your used to at home base, but Albq (can't spell is) is at pretty high altitude (5200+) so be careful.
Fish, ya know how can an me are , we can't pass sum1 without sayin a manure wagon load.
Fl. guy , sure appre. the sopport the other day or week LOL. Arnesp wasn't covered on the ins. but procrit is .
Fl. guy , sure appre. the sopport the other day or week LOL. Arnesp wasn't covered on the ins. but procrit is .
Good to hear it, hope it works quick for you. You had the transfusion the other day, right? If so, that was probably a quick 'pick-Dyce-up' for you
No... I don't mind at all...
It was my second self injection of this interferon on my very first round... we had a nurse that was in here at the time that told me that it "must" of been that....
I have always had a fear of needles & NEVER after even like a grand total of approx 108 injections of interferon "Got USED To It" as some say... I Always trembled & Shook.. it was a tramatic ordeal to me.. the proceedure always involved me hiding in my bathroom & mustering up the courage to do it.... After about 15 minutes & several "Oh $h!t$ Later, I could emerge!
I think my sis in law actually scared the patoodies out of me that night because she was wanting to inject me & was making comments like it was no big deal & she could just wam bam thank-you maam before I'd know what happened... she made it sound like she was gonna just burry up the needle in me while squirting it & it would take like .05 seconds....
I said no I'll do it... & when I finally came out of the bathroom... I walked straight over to the kitchen sick to get a glass of water, & before I could even fill my glass, I developed tunnel vision & the world started going black.... I couldn't even get to my chair... had she not of helped me I'd of been face flat on the floor... She said I went white as a sheet & got all clamy (cold sweat) & after I got my bearings she escorted me to my bed & On the way I saw myself in the mirror.... ewww scary.... I started crying uncontrollably (I think partially out of embarrassment) & within 15 minutes I was fine & it never happened again...???
Go Figure Ehh????
I think I do well even with blood draws (As Long as I Don't look) & did manage to do my self injections although it never got so called easier for me (Okay so I'm a Whimp) but I think what got to me was the fear of someone else whom was not a nurse injecting me & how the sis in law was talkin about it...
I tell ya what, If I where on my death bed I swear to god I would NOT let that woman inject me to this day....LoL
It was my second self injection of this interferon on my very first round... we had a nurse that was in here at the time that told me that it "must" of been that....
I have always had a fear of needles & NEVER after even like a grand total of approx 108 injections of interferon "Got USED To It" as some say... I Always trembled & Shook.. it was a tramatic ordeal to me.. the proceedure always involved me hiding in my bathroom & mustering up the courage to do it.... After about 15 minutes & several "Oh $h!t$ Later, I could emerge!
I think my sis in law actually scared the patoodies out of me that night because she was wanting to inject me & was making comments like it was no big deal & she could just wam bam thank-you maam before I'd know what happened... she made it sound like she was gonna just burry up the needle in me while squirting it & it would take like .05 seconds....
I said no I'll do it... & when I finally came out of the bathroom... I walked straight over to the kitchen sick to get a glass of water, & before I could even fill my glass, I developed tunnel vision & the world started going black.... I couldn't even get to my chair... had she not of helped me I'd of been face flat on the floor... She said I went white as a sheet & got all clamy (cold sweat) & after I got my bearings she escorted me to my bed & On the way I saw myself in the mirror.... ewww scary.... I started crying uncontrollably (I think partially out of embarrassment) & within 15 minutes I was fine & it never happened again...???
Go Figure Ehh????
I think I do well even with blood draws (As Long as I Don't look) & did manage to do my self injections although it never got so called easier for me (Okay so I'm a Whimp) but I think what got to me was the fear of someone else whom was not a nurse injecting me & how the sis in law was talkin about it...
I tell ya what, If I where on my death bed I swear to god I would NOT let that woman inject me to this day....LoL
Believe it or not no blood, but the hemo. doc has been doin cbc's every other day. No work til I straightin up from this alittle. If I didn't own everthing I got I would have had ta get the blood , to work, ya know how it is. Alotta rest til then.
I never passed out from the anemia. I don't think it's necessarily how low it goes (mine never got much over 10.6 even on the procrit) but how fast it goes down! You probably won't pass out, just walk slow and take your time. Not that you can hurry while your gasping for breath! May your trip be uneventful!
good point, we sit at 3500, definitely gonna have em drop me at the doors...boss signed me up for death valley in November, I'll probably feel great there!!!
It's nice to know I'm not alone with this, I'm embarrassed to tell anyone, they'll say things like don't be such a big baby, that kind of stuff, and nurses can be such Colonel Klinks' about it all, while they are weilding this big ole needle, they either act really annoyed or just plain psst off...
I understand that, it is illogical and it is their job and they want to get it over with, but that's my deal and you'd think they'd show a bit more compassion, luckily there are some nice phlebotomists (don't know how to spell that word) at that Quest place that a lot of people go to...if they are doing blood draws and the person misses a vain, OH LORDY do I freak out, if they start pokin and pokin...I start hyperventilating and I do that tunnel vision too at times, it's awful and I'm so embarrassed on top of everything....
I know I have to get over it cause when I do treatment I know that that is going to be a big part of my life, getting poked!!!! I went to this web site about it, and I read up that a lot of people have this fear, and they have these little machines that you put on your arm and it desentisizes (god knows how to spell that one either) your arm, but it's just not the pain for me, it's the whole process...them tying me off, getting the needle ready, it's making queasy just thinking about it...I hate phobias!!!!
Course, overthinker that I am, I've tried to analyze it to death, I think, maybe it's cause I tried injecting a few times when I was a kid and it got me this disease, I'm making some kind of extremely negative, unconscious connection, whatever...
My shrink says the theory has to do with primeval man, and their fear of animals with claws drawing blood...that's certainly a more creative, less boring way to look at it, but dang if knowing this stuff intellectually helps me when I go get a blood draw...
Oddly enough, other kinds of needles don't bother me AS much, little needles like the interferon needle might not be too bad for me, I'll jump that bridge when I cross it, ha ha! It's blood draws that have me barking at the moon! I'm actually listening to tapes on it now and they do help a bit...thanks so much for sharing with me, it makes see that people can get through this and prevail...you've shown some real compassion, thanks, all the best to you...(sorry I went on and on, it's just so good to share this with someone who knows)
I understand that, it is illogical and it is their job and they want to get it over with, but that's my deal and you'd think they'd show a bit more compassion, luckily there are some nice phlebotomists (don't know how to spell that word) at that Quest place that a lot of people go to...if they are doing blood draws and the person misses a vain, OH LORDY do I freak out, if they start pokin and pokin...I start hyperventilating and I do that tunnel vision too at times, it's awful and I'm so embarrassed on top of everything....
I know I have to get over it cause when I do treatment I know that that is going to be a big part of my life, getting poked!!!! I went to this web site about it, and I read up that a lot of people have this fear, and they have these little machines that you put on your arm and it desentisizes (god knows how to spell that one either) your arm, but it's just not the pain for me, it's the whole process...them tying me off, getting the needle ready, it's making queasy just thinking about it...I hate phobias!!!!
Course, overthinker that I am, I've tried to analyze it to death, I think, maybe it's cause I tried injecting a few times when I was a kid and it got me this disease, I'm making some kind of extremely negative, unconscious connection, whatever...
My shrink says the theory has to do with primeval man, and their fear of animals with claws drawing blood...that's certainly a more creative, less boring way to look at it, but dang if knowing this stuff intellectually helps me when I go get a blood draw...
Oddly enough, other kinds of needles don't bother me AS much, little needles like the interferon needle might not be too bad for me, I'll jump that bridge when I cross it, ha ha! It's blood draws that have me barking at the moon! I'm actually listening to tapes on it now and they do help a bit...thanks so much for sharing with me, it makes see that people can get through this and prevail...you've shown some real compassion, thanks, all the best to you...(sorry I went on and on, it's just so good to share this with someone who knows)
thats not funny, bro, thats reality!! I said the same thing to my GI when he said he would transfuse and prescribe procrit at the same time.... I said "bad things live in blood"..... ask all the folks that got my blood, I have no issues with needles, i donated all the time, and then ten years later, there was worse things, and what will they find in the next ten years...I would just as soon avoid it if possible....
so can man, how bad is the bone pain associated with procrit?
so can man, how bad is the bone pain associated with procrit?
Dealt with the IRS years ago now, they can't audit me again for a few years at least...he he...
Sorry to the way your feeling. What your doing through is what happened to me when my hgb was low, I increased the procrit and took B-12 shots. You might be lower then the 11.8 of 3 weeks ago. I would have your HGB checked, if around 10.0 you might be ready for procrit. Hope you are resting enough.
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ha ha ha ha!!!! you Dyceman you! Just hope Fishdoc finds a good way to deal with this...
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