disease transmission, coinfections and sexual habits

[fishdoc]

Just a quick ponder... I just got back from the Dr., with the 3rd UTI in 6 weeks.......I have never had this before.  He questioned me about sexual positions, frequency, and hygiene... of course I said DOC, look at me, sex is not an option...

but it did get me thinking... I know in HIV, women are more susceptible to disease transmission because the virus is "deposited" with bodily fluids, and contact is longer...

Is there a higher rate of HCV transmission to women than to men?

Does douching help?  Positions?  I know we are looking at a 2-3% transmission rate, but thats 2 or 3 people out of every hundred...

Inquiring minds want to know...

[fishdoc]

This thread was completely tongue in cheek (no pun intended)...trying to lighten it up around here .....sssooo did it work?

[Dale_Ray]

Ya'll have my brain more screwed up than normal. I can't connect the dots with mice, car washes, piercings, age, tools (I think I did get that one), labido - must be a spanish dance routine I guess. I'm shootin pool with a rope here so I guess I am unaffected. Dale

[mikesimon]

Well, this is a very lively discussion but alas, I cannot add one scintilla of pertinent information. But I sure have learned a lot from all of you. Thanks so much for your contributions. I don't know how I've gotten along without, at least, a cursory understanding of the smegma/mice study. Mike

[sfbaygirl]

I think you get the jist of it ;)

[beamishboy]

let's see if i got this 'straight' :sex with mice is good for hepC patients(i think gerbils are specific for another virus)....avoid very old mice(circa 1940's) smeared with oily,waxy substances and multiple piercings-exactly the advice my dear old dad related to me when i was off to clubmed....Carwashes are great for good clean fun! but only when sanctioned by church & state & only for procreation purposes;in other words,wipe that grin off yur face...a beamingboy

[cuteus]

hey scruff, was there a study on that?
I know some are into doing it with gerbils, but mice?  maybe because the former have no smegma smeared?

[scruffy]

doc, with the tx drugs you are on you should not be risking pregnancy and sex for non-reproductive purposes is naughty.
So just behave.

[grace99]

Hi fishdoc, my husband is coinfected.   I tested pos. for Hiv but not for Hep C.  Definitely take the advice of the exercise above.  Anyway sex is good, so wear your condom. I know I'm stating the obvious.

[scruffy]

No worry on the smegma issue unless you're having sex with mice.

[sfbaygirl]

says; I wouldn't want to make the error of trying to collect smegma from live, conscious horses.

The way I am sweating, I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't collect some from me.

[lilmoma]

I have done those excercises for years,...didn't know they had a name for um. I had a name for um, but I will leave that to your imagination.
actually after giving birth, my doc told me about those, helps get things back to normal, and you can get that "Re-born Virgin" feeling.

[fishdoc]

aahh, I was right!!  it even causes cancer...

While rummaging around in the files, I also found an older paper (from 1947) that analyzes another similar substance: smegma. As you might expect from the fact that it is also a waxy, oily secretion from skin cells, it is also about half lipid, and consists of:

Cholesterol and cholesterol esters: 18%
Fatty acids: 71%
This paper is notable for a couple of things. It tells us where to get a supply of smegma.

Smegma is best obtained from dead horses in rendering plants or from anesthetized animals in a department of veterinary surgery.
That's good to know; I wouldn't want to make the error of trying to collect smegma from live, conscious horses.

The other distinctive thing about the paper is that it is one of the more disgusting experiments I've read about. The authors were testing the potential carcinogenic effects of smegma, and the experiment involved making up slurries of smegma and smearing it or injecting it into folds of skin on mice, and assessing their health. It had to have been a big job, slathering 400 mice with smegma every week, and treating another 400 control mice with ear wax.

This study found an increased frequency of various cancers in the treated mice: 57 smegma-smeared mice developed various kinds of cancer, versus only 12 of the controls. Before everyone gets all worked up into the circumcision debate, though, I'll mention that the paper is one of many that have tested this kind of thing, they acknowledge that other researchers have seen no carcinogenic effect, and that more modern papers suggest that there are no special carcinogenic properties of smegma. The paper shows another curious result, that the authors didn't even discuss:

There was no significant difference in the survival rates of treated and control mice up to the 400th day of life: 85 and 88 per cent, respectively, after 200 days; 74 and 80 percent after 300 days; 65 and 57 percent after 400 days. After 500 days, 47 percent of those treated with smegma were alive as compared with 30 percent of the controls. From the 600th day on, there was a marked difference (26 and 6 percent, respectively), and on the 700th day, the survival rates were 12 and 1

[GrandOak]

Don't really know how to answer as I've not seen any study results.  I do know Riba PI recommends both partners pratice some form of contraceptive to avoid unwanted pregnancy.  But beyond that it seems that avoiding practices where blood exchange(s) can occur seems to be the common recommendation.

At least that's what I hope jakish is telling Big John.

[tulsatime]

Hmmm....this thread is very interesting.
Take care everyone, I go doctor tomorrow to find out if I can start treatment. Talk to you later... Debi

[fishdoc]

lyprocospocsy... isn't that like werewolves/???  They have smegma too....

come on goof... can kegel man needs some male support here.......

[can-do-man]

that was funny, well except the squeeze part, kinda made me have an uneasy feeling

[GoofyDad]

Holy Cr_p!! A car wash? That's one whopper of a tunnel of love! And if you blow the horn (honk the hooter) does it echo like the Lincoln Tunnel?

<small>Gee, I bet it leaves the upholstery fresh as a bunch of daisies...</small>

[can-do-man]

Well we do have two hands

[Paris47]

Hey thanks for letting me know what I had,
started to wonder about myself.
nite all
Now from what I understand you're all exercising
tonight..'
and a one and a two and three
now squeeze....and hold...one two three four,,,

[cuteus]

just sitting here, kegeling.  

any exercise is good...what else can we exercise while typing?



paris, thanks for that info, abdominal Ultrasound found it. good to know

[Tater-ToT]

Besides they say if ya do it at work & ya get bored ya can do it with nobody noticing


& ENCOURAGE It In a Board Meeting, & at lectures

[Tater-ToT]

Well I wouldn't be thinking about the car wash that's for sure!

I would be thinking about the pressure points to prolong it first!

[can-do-man]

says......kegel exercises strengthen and tone the muscles that are involved in ejaculation, and so men who Kegel can, if they do some additional work with themselves, gain greater control over the timing of their ejaculations.

Do you mean like thinking of football during it? Or counting to ten.... Help me here tater i never Kegal before, Thats nothing like yodelling is it?

[Paris47]

They found the stones when I have the
'liver scan?
not the liver biopsy,
but first it was like this.
no symptoms of hep c
no symptons of kidney stones

1. donated blood
2. found hep c
3. liver scan?
4. liver scan shows kidney stones
5. reviewed history of uti--I got many--but did all the things I was suppose to do to NOT get uit
6. it was determined that the stones were assisting in uit due to some process of urine not 'all' coming out..
went through lots of hurt pain with that stuff.
7. stones don't hurt didn't know there were there, till found
8. but when found so big...did a lyprocospocsy...no idea how to say or spell, but its not like a lazer tx its like they zap them with sound waves, your kidney gets bruised , no big deal but it was to me..
9. then pee thru a strainer & save...
10 then back to exray...whoops...still there...
11. Zap again...pee through strainer
12. now follow up with a full two day collection of stinky stuff..
oh yes, let me tell you, I'm having some fun this year!!