Im going to post a responce here that will ruffle feathers but I'm going to any way. My husband is geno type 1a, recently diagnoised. I know many of you are NOT IV drug users, alcoholics and script abusers, so I'm Not speaking to you, with theses comments.
My husband was a heroine addict before I met him. My 25 years with him have always been a roller coaster ride with drugs/alcohol. He did cocain awhile, lying to me. He stold everyones Tylenol-3 at diffrent times, beg borrowed and stole anyones pain killers or downs. Lied to me. Drank like a fish at diffrent times for diffrent periods of time. Lied said I just had a beer and you just smell one.I just did a line with friends and you caught me just this time. Always lies. Ok addiction and I'm stupid.
So in the case of drug addicts and alcoholics with Hep c, yes it is a terrible thing, a sad awful price to pay.
As a family member let me tell you, it is another crappy, stupid, life changing thing for us to deal with. We bitched at you for doing alcohol and drugs, you made us feel like we didnt know what we were talking about or worse you blamed us and now you are sick, life threatening sick. We are now supposed to be strong and supportive once again. Or we ar acussed of giving you NO support.
I know this is NOT the case with everyone or even most {no hate mail please}but if if is the case, I'm sorry, really I am for you and my husband, but how much can a family member take for life choices. Now we may loose you or live through your tx , with you and worry about you and hang through the tuff spots AGAIN!
Whinning gets to me in these cases. Now your sick detoxing or dry drunks and again we have to live with your choices and tx.
I humbly apologize to those of you who arent in this catagory or those who have done treatment and are wiser. I pray for your complete recovery as well as people like my husband, but in the case where people continue to self destuct PLEASE Dont Whine to ME!!
unfortunately this is when we find out who our friends are. almost done 2: thank u for acknowledging my message.
While I can appreciate your position, this is not a support forum for those who have to deal with addicts. It is for those of us with hepatitis to find support, comfort, and a place to vent our pain and frustrations. Please try Al-Anon. They may be able to help you. I think a lot of your anger is self-directed and out of place here.
Hi:
I understand the anger you feel towards your husband; but the anger you are feeling will only tear you up. My ex-boyfriend of 6 years had problems drinking and with cocaine. Ironically I and my daughter are the ones with the hepatitis C; he tested negative. When I found out my daughter and I had hepatitis, I broke up with him. I realized life is too short to waste on someone who is in denial, and I knew I needed all my energy to take care of myself and my daughter. I looked into the future, saw the possibility of having to begin combo therapy, and could easily imagine being sick from medication one evening, relying on him to be there for something, and him binging on that night. I would rather be alone than be with someone I can't depend on to be there when I need them. You need to separate your husbands hepatitis c from his addictive behaviors. While one may have lead to the other, they are now two different issues that must be addressed separately. While you COULD help him with his hepatitis C, you certainly CANNOT help him if he is in denial of his addictions.
Maybe you should consider separating from him for a while and taking care of yourself. Perhaps the time apart will give him a chance to make some realizations of his own. You cannot help someone unless you first help yourself. Ask yourself honestly why you want to stay in a relationship that brings you so much pain. Do not confuse need with love. You can still love someone even if you are not with them; you need to learn to love yourself a little more. I know the situation you are in is very difficult; it hurts a great deal. I can feel the pain you are in under the anger, but you don't have to live like this. I was about to type "good luck," but you don't need luck in this situation. You have a choice; it is your life. Make the choice to be happy.
G
I gave up all my idiot behavior, so my feathers aren't ruffled by your post, but I can't help wondering why you married a junkie if you don't like the roller coaster ride?
I must have missed something in your post. Was your boyfriend negative for the hcv rna or antibodies? If he is negative, you and your daughter could not have been infected by him. If he was exposed to hcv, he will always carry the antibodies or so I read. Just a little confused.
Cuteus:
He actually was negative for the hcv antibodies; he didn't test for hcv rna. I realize that I did not contract hepatitis c from him, but I have to admit at first I did suspect that was how I got it. Like many, I was not educated about hepatitis c, and did not realize that sexual transmission was so low. After researching, I realized my blood transfusion as an infant carried a much greater risk of infection then sexual transmission. It took a bit for it to sink in that something that happened so long ago could be affecting me now; it was very surreal. Problem is, however, often times alcoholics/addicts will lie, so although I knew about the alcohol and cocaine, I always wondered if there were other things I was not aware of; not a pleasant way to live. Because of this tendency of addicts to lie, I was terrified to be tested for HIV; I was tested twice (well after 6 months of last possible exposure) and thankfully they were negative. (I don't think he did IV drugs, but then again, I couldn't be %100 sure.) My ex-boyfriend and I are still in contact; I have encouraged him to be tested again just to be sure. (My daughter had a false-negative test so I am a bit overly cautious.) He said he recently gave blood for a fund raiser and was not notified of any infections; he said he disclosed the fact he was exposed to hep c (by me) to the blood drawing center. I found that odd because, if he was honest with them, I would think the cocaine use would have eliminated him as a donor, but I am not sure about that because, thankfully (given I had hep c all my life without knowing), I have never donated blood. I am also still friends with my ex-husband whom I was with for 7 years, as well as all of my long-term ex-boyfriends; I have told them all about my hep C status; they have all been tested, and they are all negative. Although far from a scientific study, I think this supports the theory of low sexual transmission.
hi there, i have to agree with galen, there is wonderful suport available in a similar format to this one for you....just type in Al-Anon...and choose which sites you want....I think you will find suport for what you are going through there......however.....and i will say this anyway....cause i CAN and also the menopausal, riba rage stuff working in my favor right about now.....i know a think a or two about addiction and have written a book on the subject AND it was used as a required text for several university courses for which i lectured.....NOW...having asstablished my working base of knowledge somewhat...i will say to you that addicts are doing the very best they can to cope with their own often emmense agony.....more often than not, i have found, (even speaking from deeply personal experience) that the majority of those who cope with their pain via drugs and alcolhol, do so as a result of very early, and not so early abuse....often sexual, if not, physical and phycological....so...having said that, i understand a little of your frustration, however, my dear, it pales in comparrisson to the life of pain, confusion and after effects that these experiences mark for life one with....so, i would encourage one of 2 things...either understand WHY he finds his fear based using....nessisary and love and suport him through it...(it tends to be far more difficult for men to speak and open up about this)or.....contact al-anon for suport...or leave....the LAST thing any addict or alcoholic needs is MORE SHAME DUMPED ON THEM......wishing you find the help and guidance you seek elsewhere....it's out there for you.
Hi again:
Just want to add, the reason we broke up was not that I suspected I got hepatitis c from him. The reason was that he was still in denial about his addictions, and I did not want to live with that anymore, especially since I had my and my daughter's health to worry about. Last year we were in Hawaii and went diving. The next day (Thursday) I was getting strange joint pain and was concerned I had decompression illness. I skipped a morning dive on the subsequent day (Friday) because I was worried. All morning and afternoon on Friday I was concerned about having decompression illness and couldn't wait for my boyfriend to get back from his morning dive. He returned 5 hours late from the dive drunk; he knew not drinking was a condition of our relationship, and not only did he drink, but he was drinking and driving. I was annoyed with him, told him I wasn't feeling well, and went to the hospital. The doctor wanted to send me to a decompression chamber; the symptoms of decompression illness can be vague, and the doctor didn't want to take any chances. I called my boyfriend to tell him what was happening, and he told me he was leaving me; he thought I was being dramatic about not feeling well and used that as an excuse for his behavior. He said he was leaving my plane tickets and some money and checking into another hotel. I left the hospital and ran to the hotel where we were staying to stop him from leaving. I let his drinking and drunken decision making come before concerns for my own health. It was like a nightmare for me. Of course he changed his mind the next day when he sobered up, but that was next to the last straw for me. I didn't go to the decompression chamber because Diver's Alert Network said they didn't think it was decompression illness; in retrospect I believe what I was feeling were symptoms of hepatitis c. For most of my life I have been told these vague, strange symptoms were all in my head. It was episodes like what happened in Hawaii that concern me. Whether you have hepatitis c or not, everyone deserves to be with someone who will be there for them when needed. I now know I was really sick (hep c), I just didn't know what was wrong, and it saddens me he wasn't there for me when I needed him. It saddens me even more I wasn't there for myself, as I suspect _Sherr may not be there for herself (completely speculative); I will not put myself in that position again. Had I did get hepatitis c from him, and he was not in denial, sober, and trying his best, I never would have left him; I would have stayed and we would have fought it together. But that was/is not the situation.
oh honey hang in there....i KNOW it sucks to be shunned and made to feel less than, and mis-understood espeacially when we need family the most honey....and i CAN RELATE...that is why i've choosen a new family through this experience, and it happens to be right here for me.....your peice was very informative and moving...ever think about printing it out and sending it to all those family and friends you think could benifit from reading it...even if you wanted to leave it un-signed, you could let them know that it is important that they read and try to be compassionate....i don't know just a thought...i just feel for you...and sometimes i wish i could smack some people upside the head for thier intolerance of illness'.....sending you hugs....kimmy
I understand your frustration and I also know that we do this tx to become healthy.
I don't know if you've finished tx or cleared the virus, but I think that if the tx is succesful there are no reasons to suffer anymore the symptoms of hep C. I haven't had any symptoms before tx, I was happy and not feeling tired. It is true that the tx has changed my behaviour and my moods and the judgement, but I really hope that in a few month after finishing tx to be me again.My family has been very supportive but they are hopping that I will become their mum and wife.
I'm week 47 now and at the end of patience physically and mentally.
I was so scarred of your post that I'm shaking now from my whole body. Will my life from now be a heal for my family and me? Hard question with no answer?
Good luck to everybody and keep a positive attitude.
Galen-please don't judge me for my spelling or gramar, English is my second language...
Most americans speak only one language let alone write more than one.
My daughter in law is from Ecuador and speaks five languages
Where are you from?
Wow! week 47. Hang in there girl! I firmly blieve life will get better for us!
...but living in New Zealand
i did not write the things on family above (at the top) but it came thru on one of the hep sites and i thought it was worth sharing. dont know who wrote it. as family issues can definitely emerge with this illness and the treatment.
fortunately i have a supportive family but at times things can be difficult. hey life is difficult - then u die. ha i pray a lot. and give thanks... love to all....
Well, neighbor. I'm from Hungary, but I live in the US.
You've come a long way; one more week and it's the finish line for you! Whatever worked for the last month will work for this last week of tx. OK?
Enjoy the spring... plant something pretty for us, who are shivering in the snow and wind... and have weeks to go yet.
Maj Neni
Hi lackalustre, Thank you for sharing! I have always felt that family issues should be listed along with all other possible sides. Hahaha! It is a big part of dealing with treatment for many & it would be better to be warned so as to prepare ones self. All in all I had pretty good support during TX but the part in the posting that mentioned not looking sick but being sick really hit home. Those were the times on treatment that were the hardest, my husband & kids would have to be reminded (and not always nicely) that I needed help & understanding. Avoiding my mother on bad head days was also helpful. I know it all sounds frightening to the newly diagnosed but all I can say is be thankful for this forum. It sure helped me prepare as best as I could for the 48-week haul.
All my very best!
GALEN SAID IT ALL!!!!!! And yes you have ruffled my feathers! I was an addict, before I even knew what an addict was! But w/ the unconditional LOVE FROM MY FAMILY....I made it thru. So if you don't like what you read here.....then don't come here! Don't you think we have "Dumped" on ourselves enough???? I have been drug free for 10 yrs., thought I'd really done things w/ my life since then...only to find out I had Hep C. My Mother hasn't wanted to talk about it much, and I didn't even know what Hep C was. I cried and blamed myself for a long time....so, miss "goodie two shoes".I've had my say!!! If you are having a pity party....then get off your a**, and do something about it!!! If you've never been an addict then YOU HAVE NO CLUE!!!!! Believe it or not it is a DISEASE!!!!!!! And NO fun at all. I feel sorry for your poor husband. You never know what you will have to face in the future!!!!! GOOD LUCK and prayers to your sick husband. Cindee
In all fairness, my wife has been where I think Sherr has been. I lied and cheated and drugged my way to hep-C. My wife is severely scarred from all that behavior. Lets not call her names but understand the other side of the coin. Seems like she posts and reads so I assume her husband is really in great hands with this woman. I watch this forum everyday. Geno type 1-b, no treatment. I am waiting for alternative and my wife supports me but she gets her digs in every now and then. In my case and looks like Sher's I brought this on in my denial way of thinking. I'm not saying you are right Sher but I do understand. I pray for you as well as your husband and all of us. I agree you need alanon to understand all this addiction lingo. But God bless you and keep coming back and YOU try and understand our side of this coin, called the dragon.
Hepcbilly, wow, it sounds like you have come a long mind healthy way. I imagine dealing with an addict that you love must be impossibly hard. When you say your wife is permanently scared from the experience of dealing with your addiction disease, in what way do you mean? Hope I
Not at all Terriri, in a word without going too far off this forum TRUST. In my addiction I lied and lied and then I lied some more. How can husbands/wives of us addicts TRUST. And that my dear can damage an innocent loved one and is why I think I feel for Sherr, she to is a victum. I think we addicts know what we may have done to those we love and is why I think I understand Sherrs anger. Without great detail on addiction, it is a family disease, we know all that. But Hepc is not about addiction, so I am done.I see her way of thinking{as my wife points out sometimes} I personaly have this disease from addiction. God Bless {especially you insomniacs}.
Oh No befuddledbedarned I just choose not to do treatment right now. My GI will treat me, but this is my choice, for right now. Don't listen to me watch the forum I just had a comment about another post. These guys know what they are talking about.
I guess Im just lucky to have the support I have had since dx with Hep c 1a. Im a paramedic and got it on the job, but do like my beer on my days off, Im on wk 40 of 48, I just finished reading about the spouses and such that continue the lifestyle (drugs, tatoos, they had before. I havent had a drink since last year when dx, sure its rough but when I think of the sacrifices my wife (very little sex, my brain fog, and a little riba-rage thrown in) has made for me, soft drinks arnt so bad. This disease is blood to blood and alcohol durring tx is stupid, I know when Im finished with tx Im having oysters, crawfish, crabs and a beer, I have no liver damage but if I did forget the beer.I will still work on an ambulance and take my chances but thats my job. If a relationship doesnt meet halfway its time to rethink it and take care of yourself. Life is short enough to put up with ****. I sometimes wonder about the percentage stats for svr when I know what the stats are for drug abusers. And I mean that in a good way, sure there are non responders and those that found out late they were infected (after symptoms) but most in this forum are commited to slaying the dragon and each other and read it daily. We were all kids once doing things we were ignorant of the dangers of. Its time for some to grow up. If the dragon isnt a wake up call, what the heck is. Good Nite all
Well, I've been w/an chronic cheater and an addict. Personally, once an addict kicks his addiction, he's a damn good person. B/a cheater always has a moral stain. So, there are worse things than addiction-drugs or alcohol.