hep c symptoms slightly different

[cruella08]

I have hep c genotype 2 I have extreme joint pain both arms shoulder to wrist. I have red sores dominant to my right side arm some on my leg. They itch, are painful and very slow to heal. Are these symptoms? They were the symptoms that made me see a Dr. but they are unresolved. Suggestions?


This discussion is related to Hepatits.

[nygirl7]

PS Everyone should take a multivitamin but is should NOT contain IRON and we do not need extra A or K as they are stored in the liver I believe and we do not need extra to tax that organ.

[nygirl7]

If Viral load was irrelevant it would not be one of the many tests used to determine disease progression.

Viral load is completely and totally irrelevent to HCV UNTIL you have decided to treat the disease. It does not correlate to liver damage or any other thing that might affect your liver the only time it comes into play is when you treat to monitor how effectively the medications are working and how quickly you clear.

58,000 - 580,000 - 5,800,000 while they say a low viral load often means you have a better chance of success that is NOT always the case and often times those with a low VL have a harder time clearing because the immune system is already been doing its job to try and get rid of the virus on it's own so the meds are not as effective.

Supplements will not clear this disease or the flu and while everyone should make sure of course that they have proper vitamin D levels and things........(as most of 'older' america is lacking in this vitamin) seriously the best thing you can do for liver health if you should choose for some reason not to try and beat the disease is liver a liver healthy lifestyle and not drink or do drugs.

Other than that if your body hasn't cleared it in the acute stage it will never happen.

So now viral load has nothing to do with anything really and if you have a count of 1 or 10,000,000 you are just as infected.  Plus viral load goes up and down all on it's own and can vary vastly DAILY.  Means nothing.

[shellywinters]

You may think HBV and HCV are apples to oranges however that is not entirely the case.
They are both endoviruses, viruses that encode the selenoenzyme glutathione peroxidase in order to thrive in your liver. As these viruses replicate, because their genetic codes include a gene that is virtually identical to that of the human enzyme glutathione peroxidase, they rob their hosts of selenium.

Hepatitis B and C viruses all encode for this enzyme, there is abundant evidence that the a high dietary selenium intake gives a great deal of immunity against all of these types of viruses including HIV.

Here is a link to a web hosted PDF entitled “Acquired Tolerance of Hepatocellular Carcinoma Cells to Selenium Deficiency:A Selective Survival Mechanism?”

Published by Department of Molecular Biology and Genetics, Faculty of Science, Bilkent University, 06533 Ankara, Turkey with the acknowledged support from University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, PA and Institute Gustave Roussy, Paris, France.

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/63/20/6707.full.pdf

This report includes in vitro and vivo studies and observations from humans with Hepatitis B and C infections. This is only one study by Bilkent University, 06533 Ankara, Turkey however they refer to supporting published medical journals regarding the same.

A few more links, one from the Journal of Hepatology, the official journal of the European Association for the study of the liver

http://www.springerlink.com/content/e68n43309373n18n/

http://www.jhep-elsevier.com/article/S0168-8278(02)00060-0/abstract

The above link is why I referred a solid multivitamin as nutrients are depleted or not absorbed adequately with persons with liver disease as we have.

Labeling Selenium as a “Natural Therapy” or “Supplement” as it’s a trace mineral the human body needs may not be accurate. It aids in the prevention of cirrhosis as published in the above referenced links.

nygirl7
And of course, I could not agree with you more, “Please seek help from a qualified medical expert”. If Viral load was irrelevant it would not be one of the many tests used to determine disease progression. Is it not part (key word part, acknowledging there are other serious factors to consider than just viral load ) of the intention of the medication it reduce the infection?

Trinity4, GSDgirl, Boobert
Please after reading the above linked material and let me know if it was of any value especially as if was from doctor’s research physicians from around the world. Forget all about me and even my advice. The above data is a starting point to research and discuss with you doctor.

[Trinity4]

Don't care what supplements did for your HBV.  You are comparing apples to oranges when referring to HCV and HBV.  Supplements are not going to cure HCV and reducing the viral load with HCV does not reduce or stop the virus from damaging the liver.  People with HCV who have had consistenly low viral loads have also ended up with cirrhosis.  Didn't your research teach you that?

Trinity

[GSDgirl]

I did not shut down your advice.  Porphyria (trin, the whole name) Is a real side effect of having HCV.  The "cure" is phlebotomy's to lower the ferritin.

I will now shut down your advice, supplements will not cure/fix all problems especially HCV related problems.  Viral load fluctuates naturally on its own.

cruella, please see a dermatologist at the least, and a good hepatologist would be a very good idea.

Denise....with no viral load thanks to prescriptions

[Boobert]

If I were you I would see a Dermatologist.