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stage four liver disease

HI MY MOM WAS DIAGNOSIS WITH LIVER DISEASE A YEAR OR SO BACK WILL SHE HAS BECAME ILL AGAIN AND SAW THE DR HE SAYS SHE IS IN STAGE 4 AND HER HEPATITISIS LEVEL IS VER HIGH WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
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233616 tn?1312787196
I'm sorry to hear about your mom. It's very hard news to take we know.

If she is "brick hard" then she is stage 4 or end stage (5) liver disease.

Stage 4 can and do treat but it is much harder, and not very successful.
Once the fibrosis of stage 3 has become rock hard scarred masses of stage 4 the damage is not reversible. The normal procedure is to put those well enough on a transplant waiting list. Whether she would qualify for a transplant depends on her whole health profile however, and only about half the people who need a new liver get one.

The immediate thing is to get the water out of her heart sac and abdomen and there are procedures to do this and make her more comfortable.
The gold standard for knowing the stage of disease is to do a needle biopsy. However, if her liver papates hard as a rock they are unlikely to suggest this as it can itself cause death. As the liver hardens and shuts down the internal liver pressure becomes higher than the surrounding blood pressure as the organ tries to force fewer cells to keep up with metabolism. The pressure can be 2-3 times that of the regular blood pressure. Therefore a stage 4 biopsy can lead to internal bleeding that cannot be stopped and for this reason in stage 4, needle biopsy is not wisdom, IMHO.
There are other scans that can be done that are non invasive, along with physical exam and labs the docs can be fairly accurate, especially in later stages.
Talk to the doctor about what would be the best scan.
How old is your mother and does she have other health issues?

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My mother was rushed to the ER today with an extreme amount of fluid around her heart. I was told she has cirrhosis of the liver and her liver is hard as a brick. I want to know can she make it out with treatment and a healthy diet. I also want to find out if this is truly stage 4 or not.  I really want my mom to come out of this so if you know, send me your answers. I want to find out all that I can so that I can help as much as I can.                          Thanks, J.B.
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784040 tn?1236569210
I have had hep c for over 20 years now I am 38years old I had a biopsy in 2004 and it was mild now its2009and I am always sick really sick I retain water in my abdomen only in my abdomen no where else not my ankles or legs I get sick headaches my eyes get swollen and puffy so much so it splits my skin and burses im not sure why that is happening is it a symptom of a sick liver. I feel dizzy a lot now, I have red raised pinpoint dots on my chest and they have started going down my arms kind of what like a diabetic has on his ankles but more spread apart I guess what I want to know what symptoms come with what stages
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779757 tn?1235856715
peg againthe  if I can....Any one heard of this new study? My memory is getting really bad, and my energy level which was pretty good is starting to decline...I feel like my focus and concetration is off.....HELP
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ANYBODY EVER THINK OF TAKING HIGH DOSAGES OF VITAMIN C ?...I KNOW THAT A 24/7 VITAMIN C DRIP WAS GIVEN TO A PATIENT(my brother) WITH A BAD STAFF INFECTION AND HE RESPONDED GREAT!,  (ALL THE ANTI-BIOTICS DIDNT WORK). I THINK THE VITAMIN C CAN FLUSH OUT THE BODY, REGENERATE TISSUE, AND HELP IMMUNE.
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if i go untreated for hep c reno type 4 sirrhosis stage 4 how long do u think i can live?
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