Jim/Kalio

[ladybug52]

Did you see my reply to Proactive's post on the Forum? Hate to be left hanging when I was so tottttaaalllly right and all!JK! But I didn't think either of you would go down w/o a fight!
"Am I just paranoid or am I being ignored?"
Thankd goodness for OrphanHawk replying or I would really be over the edge.
Bug

[Myown]

Thanks, good luck to you too.

[mikesimon]

Honestly, I was not looking for, nor was I expecting, an apology. But, it is reassuring to know that you weren't trying to be mean. I believe you and I do sincerely hope that you believe me. Again, good luck to you. Mike

[mikesimon]

Thanks. I wish you good luck and a healthy and happy life sans HCV. Mike

[Myown]

Michael,
If you are continuing to post to me because you are waiting for an apology, ya know what, you're right, I should apologize because I hurt you(or insulted or whatever the word is that describes how you feel)., tho I didn't realize my words would do that. I was just kidding as I told you before, but in reality it doesn't matter if I was kidding, if you feel or felt hurt/disappointed, I apologize.

Yes I agree,we are from 2 differnet planets. I did think you were joking in the above post and did find it very funny to tell you the truth. If not for nothing else your post may help you understand  that my original post to you was in jest (not that I would ever joke with you again anyhow)

Dry humor is not for everyone and as you and as others have mentioned sometimes communication is lost on the net, so that doesn't help either.. But that problem is solved cause as I mentioned before, it is best that we don't post to one another anymore.  

I only have 3 more weeks of tx (hopefully) and I will be backing off alot from the forum until I completely disappear,so we wouldn't be posting anymore anyhow. Plus the warm weather is here and that will help wean me off the forum.

Sorry I upset you. I really am. I apologize again.

[mikesimon]

I have been at this site for 4 or 5 years and I have never ever written anything even remotely like that. I don't need to check the archives because that is not the way I think, speak or write ever - if you check you will see that is true. I posted that because I thought you would recognize how mean spirited that type of post is. But you surprised me and I really don't know what to say in response. In absolute honesty I didn't think it was funny in any way. I thought it was mean and childishly stupid and I had hoped that you'd find it so as well and reexamine your motivation for making snide comments about me. But, you actually thought it was funny and I am stunned and convinced beyond all doubt that we may as well live on different planets because we have diametrically opposed sensibilities and realities. Mike

[Myown]

LOL!  Oh wait a minute,,, maybe I shouldn't laugh tho. Maybe I should tell you that you are mean spirited and all that, just like you tell me (as if it would bother me)      

So the guy actually does have a sense of humor more than once a week, hmnn thats interesting. So,, Mr. Organized,,, did you cross off "joke telling" from your "things to do list" for the week, so you don't tell an "extra joke" before its allotted time??.<< < now thats a joke Simon, don't get all bent out of shape.  

[mikesimon]

Sounds like a very weak attempt at a Black Eyed Peas song but keep trying and maybe - just maybe - you'll improve enough that you'll be allowed to sing somewhere other than church - but I really doubt it. Church is where all is forgiven - even singing or is it screeching, with a pathetically bad voice way off key. It's so, so sad.  Mike

[Myown]

Shut up Michael.
The above is not a joke. Let me say it again since you said I say the same thing over and over again. shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up and shut up.

Have a great night.

And thanks for "YOUR perspective" on things. I'll pretend  I care what your perspective is. Here goes: "Oh thank you Michael for your perspective on things,, it means just so much to me."    

I hope that helped stroke your big male ego.  

[mikesimon]

I can take a joke and I like jokes even when I am the object of them if they're good spirited - but that's all you ever have to offer - and they're not really jokes but rather just snide stupid comments about the same things over and over again. And what cinches it is, they're not funny. That sums it up from my perspective.
Mike

[Myown]

oh pleeeeze, you can't take a joke and its all because most people have probably stood their distance from you for what ever reason and you have only had business type interaction with people due to your work schedule or something. For you to think that I would actually mean those comments NOT in a joking way and to hurt you is what puzzles me. But thats why we would never understand each other if we had a friendship and thats why I don't care what you think anymore and you can continue to believe what you want as far as me being mean spirited. Your opinion means nothing to me.

[mikesimon]

I looked for and hoped to find goodness in you but whenever I got passed your childish and oftentimes mean spirited sense of humor there wasn't anything of substance. You think you're funny with your incessant comments about money and motorcycles and lawers but I guess when you don't have anything of substance to say that's all you really have to work with.

[Myown]

I never thought you really communicated anything of substance anyway - it was always just your weird sense of humor.
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Michael, shut up jerk. Go kick your tire and pretend its me. It might make you feel better.


And btw, I don't need your opinion on stopping tx early. You would just point me to a study anyhow, bottom line guy that you are.

I'm glad I saw you for the real you. I can't be friends with someone like you. You have a bad temper. I'm glad I saw it just in time. I was going to give you my email so we could keep in touch now and then cuz I probably won't be on forum much after I stop tx, but forget it, no way would I want to keep in touch with you..... we would both be stressed out at all times if we continued to keep in touch when I leave. And you know that too.

No hard feelings, take care.
Don't hurt your foot when you kick the tire.

[mikesimon]

I never thought you really communicated anything of substance anyway - it was always just your weird sense of humor.

[mikesimon]

I don't have any advice for you. Mike

[Myown]

I do think that often people find a site like his and believe that it is the be all and end all and I hope that it is but I come with a healthy degree of skepticism so excuse me if I am not blown away just yet.
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I am not a "be all and end all" person with anything or anyone to tell you the truth. The only thing in life I am 100% sure about is invisible tho, so  I'm sure that at times that puts me in a certain category to some as 'believing anything."

But anyhow, I try to read as much as I can about alternative tx and how the body can heal itself naturally, but I also know that at times conventional meds and doctors need to be used until better, newer, more natural approaches can be show better results. I'm not a flower child.

I'm glad to see that you are open about alternative meds tho. I am kinda surprised. Don't read me wrong. I'm not being fresh or snippy, but i didn't think you were open about it.

I don't like the way Mercola's site hits the eye, looks too gimmicky or something, but he does provide good info Mr Simon, trust me.

And no I didn't consult with Mercola about my tx, but how come you didn't offer me your opinion? I saw the studies with short course, no need to post, but do you have any opinion or advice that you may want to share with me?

[mikesimon]

By the way, did you ask the good doctor how he felt about you stopping your TX at 20 weeks? I am curious about his opinion, if he has one or does he stick strictly to diabetes? I sure hope you consulted with him on that issue before coming to a decision. Mike

[mikesimon]

When I was diagnosed in 1995 I went the alternative route. I did it all - macrobiotic diet, Ayurvedic medicine and I studied and practiced transcendental meditation daily. I believe there are huge benefits from all of those elements. Dr. Mercola just doesn't strike me as one of the enlightened few but I have yet to spend a lot of time with his site. I still practice meditation but not as frequently as I did. I believed I would heal my liver but it took a surgeon to really help me through that issue. I do think that often people find a site like his and believe that it is the be all and end all and I hope that it is but I come with a healthy degree of skepticism so excuse me if I am not blown away just yet. I will look at it more closely but I don't think I will be signing up for his newsletter. I already get enough mail as it is. Mike

[Myown]

Michael,
You may have to give his website your email address, but he won't charge you for the newletter,nor will he push products on you. He does point you to studies and articles and doesn't just make things up as you probably think he does. Try to read with an open mind. I know thats hard for you cuz you are sooooooo against alternative medicine. Read for a while, not just two seconds while rolling your eyes and making faces.

[Myown]

You did say that you were growing on me a while ago. I guess you don't remember the tender moments.
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Are you referring to the cramp that you got in your hand that caused you to release the choke hold you had on my neck? I forgot about that. Yes Mike,  that was a tender moment for us, sorry for not remembering.

[mikesimon]

I looked at the site but couldn't locate Dr. Mercola's credentials or much about him. It looks like a marketing site but I haven't spent enough time there to know. Thanks for the suggestions about diabetes but I have thought about it and studied  it so I do not expect to learn much form the good doctor, if in fact he is an MD. But, I will look at his site again and I'll let you know what I think later.

PS You did say that you were growing on me a while ago. I guess you don't remember the tender moments.

Mike

[Myown]

LOL You are the world record holder for foot in mouth. I've never heard stories that bad. ha! Really tho, OMG. I wouldn't tell my husband if I was you. Do you tell him EVERY story? Don't. I wouldn't. Give him one story a month and leave out the other 12. ha!

You are too funny. Those stories had me tense and worried for all involved while I was reading. ha!

[Myown]

http://www.mercola.com/

Oh okay, so you would rather take insulin, I wouldn't, but that's your choice. You like to eat food that tastes good. I know what you mean.Thats crumby that you got diabetes from hep or related.

Well anyhow that is the doctors website and if you wanted to do a search on his site you will find a video of him( I looked quick but couldn't find it again) where he was stressing the importance of those with type 2 to get off the insulin and control it with diet and exercise, but you're aware of controlling it thru diet and exercise, so okee- dokie.

I didn't think you had a weight problem though. I didn't mean it that way, incase you thought I did.   5'11' 180, thats not fat. But if do you gain weight let me know so I can address your posts "to chubby lawyer.".....  joking, don't get mad at meeeeeeeee.

I just came back from the doctors and I discussed with the NP about stopping at week 20 instead of 24.(Jim's gonna give me a high 5 I bet) I figured that since its  right in between the 16 and 24, I'll give it a try.Quitting after 16 weeks is a little scary to me, but 20 seems a little 'less scary.' I want to ask bug what week it was she quit . I think "amommy" stopped at 20.

But Np basically said if it comes back after 20, it would have come back after 24 too. So actually I'm glad I brought the subject up.The way the NP seemed she wouldn't have any problem with 16 weeks either, but she really didn't want to totally commit to that answer, so I just kept wording it by saying forget about me, "what would you do if it was you with hep and my stats?" so I sorta yanked it out of her.

I told NP I was feeling good except moody now and then( and then and then and then)..,,, but that I was concerned about post sx the longer I stayed on it.  

I'll post to Jim later about the 20 week possible decision. I can hear the excitement in his voice already. Ha! JIm's so into the shorter course stuff. Our cutting edge Jimmmmmiiie.

see ya later Miguel.

[mikesimon]

I am type 2. It developed as a result of either HCV, transplant or the bolus steroid treatments I got for rejection or a combination of those events. A lot can be done through diet and exercise but I use insulin. I could use oral meds but I like the side effect profile of insulin vs oral drugs - and it's easier for me to control my blood sugar. I suppose if I was extremely careful with my diet I could cut down the insulin significantly but I am not that careful and I like to eat. I don't have a weight problem and my cholesterol is beautiful so I eat what I want and cover with insulin. Mike

[ladybug52]

I've already been worried about the stress of it all with your Mom and not knowing. I will add her to my worry/pray list.
No, I don't think any one could beat me in the foot in mouth dept. I was at a basball game talking about one of the little players to a friend (you can't imagine how bad this gets) I said "he doesn't play much, the coaches really have a hard time getting him to pay attention to them when he's on base"
My friend whispered "He's deaf and that's his Mom in front of you and she's not"
Or the time I said about the coach on the opposite team "All he does is yell, who could live with that?" And his wife sitting next to me informs me who she is and that she can live with "that" Had to quick go to the snack bar and find another seat!
Bug