Post Tx Foods and Supplements

[Rockerforlife]

I have decided not to take  the cordycep musroom extract and the stem enchance extracts until i at least get my 4 week PCR resuts back.I afraid it may affect the TX drugs that are proberly still in my system.I did take it for the last 3-4 days and im noticing headaches now and im thinking this maybe because these immune boosters may be detoxifying my body too fast.Just hope i didnt screw things up by taking the super foods too early.Anyway,ill wait for my first PCR..

[Marte313]

What is that?? I am also looking for something to take when my TX is over. Someone suggested something called silymarin or milk thistle to me, but I have no idea what that is either. It is so difficult to find translations for this kind of stuff...

[Rockerforlife]

I waited a week after TX before i started taking the mushrooms and the algae,i think it may be wise to wait a tad longer just in case,milk thistle also has a detoxifying effect,if i were you id at least wait until you SVR before you take it...

[Marte313]

Isn't that a bit pointless?? I thought that when I am SVR I was healthy? Wouldn't my liver be OK at that point??

[desrt]

The people who sell this stuff don't think it's pointless. They think it's a goooood use for your money.

[Bill1954]

Hi Marte,

Silymarin is the active ingredient in Milk Thistle. While it probably won’t cause you any harm, I doubt you’ll receive much therapeutic benefit from it either. There have been a few studies on it; here are several as they relate to Hep C:

http://tinyurl.com/mgxzeo

I wouldn’t think you’d require anything except SVR to return you to health; the rest of this supplement stuff will just take your money. If you have any questions about them, talk with your doctor--

Bill

[Rockerforlife]

Medical doctors dont know much about nutrition,they are trained to dispense drugs.

[Marte313]

Hmmm... So I should really do nothing when I'm done?? Just sit around and wait?? Starting to feel really nervous...

[Rockerforlife]

GOALS: The goal of this study was to examine the effect of a standardized silybin and soy phosphatidylcholine complex (IdB 1016) on serum markers of iron status. BACKGROUND: Milk thistle and its components are widely used as an alternative therapy for liver disease because of purported antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, and iron chelating properties. STUDY: Thirty-seven patients with chronic hepatitis C and Batts-Ludwig fibrosis stage II, III, or IV were randomized to 1 of 3 doses of IdB 1016 for 12 weeks. Serum ferritin, serum iron, total iron binding capacity, and transferrin-iron saturation were measured at baseline, during treatment, and 4 weeks thereafter. Wilcoxon signed rank tests were used to compare baseline and posttreatment values. RESULTS: There was a significant decrease in serum ferritin from baseline to end of treatment (mean, 244 vs. 215 mug/L; median, 178 vs. 148 mug/L; P=0.0005); 78% of subjects had a decrease in serum ferritin level. There was no significant change in serum iron or transferrin-iron saturation. Multivariate logistic regression analysis in a model that included dose, age, sex, HFE genotype, history of alcohol use, and elevated baseline ferritin levels demonstrated that stage III or IV fibrosis was independently associated with decreased posttreatment serum ferritin level. CONCLUSIONS: Treatment with IdB 1016 is associated with reduced body iron stores, especially among patients with advanced fibrosis stage.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18458640?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

[Rockerforlife]

Wait until you clear at the 6 month time frame,then you can eat what ever you want,as long as you stay away from tap water and tuna...LOL

[Marte313]

Why should I avoid tapwater??

[Rockerforlife]

Your kidding right?...if you do just one thing for your health?...drinikng pure distilled or filter water is the best thing for you body and your liver....do you live on a moutian in the jungle?

[Rockerforlife]

According to the EPA, tap water contains more than seven hundred organic chemicals that are suspected cancer causing agents. Other common pollutants in our tap water are:

Lead
Petrochemicals
Organo-phosphate residues
Cyanide
Strontium
Uranium
Vanadium
Arsenic
Lead
Copper
Nitrates
Phosphates
Radon

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Dangers-of-Tap-Water&id=1592630

[Marte313]

No, I don't live in a jungle, but I live in the forest =P
I allways drink tap water, except when I'm visiting other contries. The store-bought water is so expensive...

[Marte313]

That article was just about the U.S.
I actually think it is perfectly safe to drink tap water here in Norway. Tried to google it, but couldn't find anything that said it wasn't. On the other hand I actually found an article that said the tap water actually is healthier than the store-bought water...

[Rockerforlife]

The water is polluted even in the north pole.

[Rockerforlife]

Its much worse than the public knows,why do you think whales and dolphins beach themselves ...the levels of mercury and other chemicials has their system totally out of whack,they proberly are commiting a form of suicide....the oceans are a toxic waste dump

[annieCinMD]

I refuse to pay for water, too. I have one of those Brita pitchers with a filter that I keep in the fridge. Fill it up from the tap, it drips through the filter.

[Rockerforlife]

The brita is not bad,its removes the lead and other heavy metals but not the volitile chemicials...the best water is reverse osmosis filtered or distilled...thats it...but watch out for ,some filters are full of silver

[Bill1954]

Perhaps you can explain why the industrialized world offers higher longevity than developing nations, while the majority of the people that inhabit these countries drink municipal water from the tap?

Hmmm…

[desrt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4XhhTF7vRM

[Rockerforlife]

Other factors come into play when comparing the death rates of different countries besides the water that they drink...all water is polluted,the whole planet is a mess

[Rockerforlife]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDx5C_6Rf24&feature=related

[Marte313]

LOL!!! Conspiration-theories... But anyway: I still won't pay for water, but I could be inclined to boil it before putting it in the fridge.

[Bill1954]

"Other factors come into play when comparing the death rates of different countries besides the water that they drink."

My point exactly. Despite the fact that we live in a world that suffers from polution, we continue to live longer than the generations before us. How can one chalange our drinking water as an issue, then. Of course it has it's problems, but it serves huge populations at very inexpensive prices, compared to water supplies in some developing countries that *do* carry pathogens such as HAV, etc. Give this subject a rest, eh? Jeez!