Can thyroid cancer turn into lymphoma?

[bluebird777]

can thyroid cancer turn to lymphoma? Or can you go into remission from thyroid cancer and then get lymphoma? Is it possible to have them both? This is very confusing.

What are the probabilities of the mentioned scenarios?

[Ken_PA]

Glad to have been of some help, Therese. Is the pain only in the nodes themselves? Or also in deeper and/or surrounding areas? I ask because of this: nodes experiencing pain are known to almost always be the result of infection. The nodes fill with lots and lots more immune cells that are fighting the infection. That powerful stretching from within, along with the inflammatory chemicals being released, is what causes the pain in the node.

What result do you get when you take an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen? Is the pain any better?

The inflammation is a necessary part of fighting the infection, but in your case the process seems to be going too far. It's possible that your nodes themselves are infected. In that case, the nodes are also overfilling with suppuration. (Maybe also there are what's called 'granulomas' present, like in cat scratch fever. But that's not too relevant for now.)

My guess about those inguinal nodes is not a virus, but a yeast/fungus - because you've had so many antibiotics. Use of antibiotics is known to allow a yeast to proliferate. That's because the antibiotics kill off the normal, friendly bacteria in the body and so the yeast has no competition and it takes over.

Let me know if any of that was not clear  :)

I'd also strongly suggest that you call and have them mail the biopsy report to you. That way, you can get familiar with it beforehand, even post the results here. Then your limited time with the doc won't be wasted on basic questions. You might choose not to even open the envelope until after Christmas. I'd think about doing that my own self.

Good luck.

[bluebird777]

Thanks!  I will ask for a copy of the pathology report when I see my pcp at the end of the month.

The lymph nodes on my left side are growing slowly and are still very painful.  It is getting more difficult to walk or lean over.  There are also now 2 lumps in my neck the size of walnuts.  They are hard to the touch and don't cause me any pain other the a fullness and sometimes a little discomfort when swallowing.  One of them is where the thyroid once was the other is below kind of sitting to the left of the trachea(hope i'm saying that right).Like I said they really don't cause any pain to speak of...but I sure can feel that they are there.  They started growing about 6/7 months ago.  Just thought it was more of the same...lymphadenopathy.

I appreciate all of your help.  The way you have explained things helps me keep hope that this could very well be some kind of virus that I am fighting and not cancer.

I won't lie...I have moments when I'm convinced it's back.  But after talking with more people and asking a lot of questions...I am extremely hopeful!  Thank you  :)

Therese

[bluebird777]

I had an excisional biopsy done on one of the lymph nodes on the left side of my neck. I was not given a copy of the pathology report of that one.  Just told that is said lymphoid dysplasia. And that I had a virus. The lab technician did not run the flow cytometry as suggested because I no longer have insurance and she said it cost too much.  I was flabbergasted that she thought she had the right to make those kind of decisions.

There are 3 lymph nodes in my neck that have grown since the biopsy. I intend to show the doc when I see him at the end of the month.  My family and friends can actually see 2 of them.  I can feel the fullness in my neck, but no real pain other than occasional spasm. It's the left hip and upper thigh that is really bothering me.

[bluebird777]

Fine needle aspiration pathology report

DIAGNOSIS:
(A) LEFT LATERAL THYROID, FINE NEEDLE ASPIRATION --
             -- ATYPICAL LYMPHOID PROLIFERATION

          COMMENT:  There is an atypical lymphoid population. The cells are predominately small to intermediate with irregular nuclear membranes and coarse clumped chromatin.  Several larger forms are present, a few of which have atypical nuclear features. No thyroid parenchyma is present. Further investigation with excisional biopsy and fresh tissue sent for flow cytomerty is recommended.

(B) LEFT NECK, PERIAURICULAR AREA, FINE NEEDLE ASPIRATION --
           --RARE ACINAR CELL GROUP
           --NO LYMPH NODE PARENCHYMA PRESENT
         COMMENT:  There are only a few groups of acinar cells possibly from minor salivary gland.  No lymph node parenchyma is present.  No malignancy is identified.

(C) LYMPH NODE, LEFT PARACAROTID, FINE NEEDLE ASPIRATION --
            --BLOOD ONLY
            --NO LYMPH NODE PARENCHYMA PRESENT
        COMMENT:  The prepared material has minimal blood only. No lymph node parenchyma is present.

[Ken_PA]

another factor: if you've had many antibiotics over the past year, that can result in some fungus running wild. Maybe even the ordinary and ever-present candida.