MEN...i also need an honest answer!

[kchick]

gosh, i already feel a little embarassed about posting this question, but i really would like an honest answer! Trying to keep this short,I guess as surprising as it is I have been somewhat naive to the fact that men think large labia minora are disgusting? My husband loves mine (ugh, sorry i am just trying to explain my insecurity)even though i've always felt like I was not sexy "down there". I've asked him about mine before and of COURSE I always get the "i love it" (because he knows if he said anything else he'd never get it! so i will never get a TRUE honest answer) Anyways, the other day a couple of my co workers (one female and one male, sadly regarding a patient)made the remark about a "roast beef *****", and how much would you do "that" for etc (sick, i know)... i had never heard that term but right away I was pretty sure I knew what they were talking about. Just a bit ago I looked up the term online and my suspicions were correct. I truely want to know the general feeling on this. Is it not sexy to have large labia minora? Does having large labia minora mean you have a "loose *****", and are not the "ideal tight..." Sorry to be so descript. Is having larger labia minora mean that your tendency to smell bad down there is greater? Again, I would appreciate honest answers, I am not looking to hear "if your husband enjoys it that is all that matters". I just want to know!!! Thanks to everyone who replies to this.

[brianwilson2max]

Please, please… Google this website - Large Labia Productions. There are tons of guys out there that not just love, but worship large labias. I read a brilliant article on how Playboy influenced the persona of perfect in this country. The US government deemed discreet graphic genitalia to overly erotic and was prohibited to be shown (1960s). Playboy wasn’t allowed to show labias. Mind you, this is the government validating that a larger labia was too sexually stimulating. Other countries with a long history of Victorian prudishness have been among the most conservative in this regard. Until recently British broadcasters had to follow the ILOOLI rule — inner labia are out (not allowed), outer labia are in (allowed). In Australia a magazine is deemed porn if it shows an image of a woman with protruding inner labia. The size and shape of her labia is a decisive factor in their rule of "discreet genital detail". As for that attitude in other countries, again, larger labia size linked with eroticism. Playboy, having survived 40+ years and being now the mainstay and persona of class, the models therein seen in the same way. The more ‘erotic’ genitally endowed women turned away forcibly by government mandate. So, in a nutshell, the government influenced censorship, which in turn only introduced the populous to small labias. If that is all we were introduced to, than anything other than this would seem abnormal. Years ago I showed a friend of mine some pictures of a large labia’d woman and he was amazed… he kept saying over and over, “I never knew”. He was easily converted in that moment to being a large labia lover. It wasn’t his conversion that surprised me, that seemed a natural one, but the fact that he had never seen a large labia before.

[Emerald444]

I would just like to put this all in perspective for everyone. While you are worried about your vaginas and penises, someone out there is worried about dying of prostate cancer or ovarian cancer or dealing with HIV. I understand that everyone wonders what is normal. But the only reason we think about what is normal is because we think because we've been told that there is such thing as normal. And who will name themselves God to tell us what is normal? No one seriously as long as you think about it like that. I once gave a speech in my public speaking class about labiaplasty and how it was against my core belief unless it was used as a relief for birth defects or for a woman who had just been damaged after surgery. Now we have women who look at porn stars and think they aren't good enough so they bring these pictures of porn to the doc's, point at the picture and say, "I want it to look like this". They don't realize (and the men probably don't either) how much airbrushing and photoshopping goes into that ****. Then you hear of husbands telling their wives after they have given birth to children that they are too loose and they just don't want her anymore. The speech I gave had the class rolling with laughter, but in reality it's sick. F-ing SICK. I would like all the self conscious men and women in the world to stand naked in front of a mirror and look themselves in the face and realize that they have been subjected to the constant feed of **** coming out of the television. Then I want them all to have the realization that there IS NO SUCH THING AS PRETTY OTHER THAN YOUR OWN LABELS and run outside naked screaming through the streets, "I"M FREE. I'm F-ing FREE from the bull these people are trying to tell me. It doesn't really matter what I look like." Because in TRUTH you can be the sexiest guy and if you are  a jerk you are a HUGE turn off. Same thing with the chicks. I work in a bar and I see so much hype about the way people look. And self conscious people are not helping the situation. DO I ever get self conscious? Sure. I think it's natural to question. It's the conclusions that some of you people come up with that worry me. The conclusion that you are something less than someone else or what you wish you were. If you spent the time you spend coming up with your conclusions that are not EVER based on fact because they are OPINIONS on asking yourself who you are, what you stand for and where you want to go in life you might be a lot happier (no guarantees) than you are right now whinning in the mirror over your labia. I'm a chick and I'm 24 and I don't give a **** what I look like because if a man isn't attracted to me the way I am then that's his problem. If I'm too loose for him, I'll buy HIM a penis pump. And more women should get over it and say, "to heck with it, I'm not going to focus my attention on my looks, I'm going to worry about how we as a community are going to solve starvation or one of the many thousand other MORE IMPORTANT TO LIFE questions than what my **** looks like in the mirror." I know this sounds a lot like a rant and I apologize to those who are offended by my words but everywhere I turn women are giving up their own power. Men do it constantly too. And to all the men who are worried about your penis size I would say this: "For every chick who thinks size matters, there is one who knows better." And BTW you can be TOO BIG and it hurt. The reality is, just be you. Worry about things that matter. Worry about the fact that the Federal Reserve isn't Federal at all, it's privatized. Worry about the fact that the 16th amendment was fraudulently ratified by Humphrey Knox. Anyway, you get my drift. I love you all even though I don't know you. You are beautiful just the way you are. But don't take my word for it. Take as much time as you need to discover it for yourselves.

[HalfAndHalf]

I have this same problem, except only one labia is too large and the other is a size that I'm comfortable with. It makes more sense to me that it would be an "all-or-nothing" kind of thing, where either both are small or both are large, but instead I have two very different sizes. Is this abnormal? It's not a physical issue in any way (no discomfort or anything like that) just a source of insecurity.

[jeffero]

The term, "roast beef" sounds derogatory, and being that it more than likely was invented by the male gender probably makes it sound worse.  I too have used this term, but only to guy friends when discussing large labia minora in private, just to ensure we were all on the same sheet.  Any educated person knows that large lips are not a result of hyperactivity in the "nether region," does not promote odor, etc.  Some are big, some are little. Some are huge, some or non-existant.  Some men ARE put off by large inners, but rest assured most are not.  I am actually the opposite,  To me, they are a huge attraction.  An ex-girlfriend (one I let get away--dummy) had a very large labia minora.  Her older sister used to harass her growing up about looking like a boy down there, which was really a shame, because it really gave her a complex about it.  I couldn't get enough of it!  I was so amazed by its appearance; I thought it so beautiful.  By the way, in contrast, her vaginal circumference was rather small.  I know I am in no way unigue in my appreciation for "roast beef."  Many men I know love it too.  I have encountered several women who were on the larger scale down there, and they all felt embarassed by it.  What a crime.  Of course, now the cosmetic medical community is capitalizing on this by offering labiaplasty, which sickens me (unless of course, it would be a problem where physical discomfort is a problem or other complicating medical issue).  But to take away something so beautiful just because one was led to believe it is wrong with a stigma attatched, yikes.  I truly wish most were bigger! HONESTLY.

[john911]

You sound like a beautiful person. And from a mans point of view it is not different it is still the same thing. And we love that thing regardless of how it looks trust me. Men have alot of insecurities like you say so don't worry about it. If you save yourself that is a gift that so many women can't give the man they love when they finally find him. For most it is not a big deal, but if you find the perfect one you want to be with it is a beautiful gift. good luck

[salema]

im 17 years old and a virgin. A couple of days ago my friend waxed me down there and she was sooo disgusted when she saw the extra skin hanging out n asked 'ewww wats dat, why have you got that coz i dont?' and up until that very day i didnt no there was anything wrong with me i thought everybody had it.
Now it adds onto my list of insecurities but as many as ive gt im sure the man i end up with has just as many insecurities, but i wouldnt love him any less if he was less then perfect, because love is about being with an imperfect person and knowing that they are perfect for you.

i wouldnt surgically remove it although i have thought about it but i dont think anything is worth the pain of being immobile for weaks, the pain puts me off. Also im rather hoping to find a husbad like yours who will love me n my insecurities.