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I am a 37 yr old contractor/ home inspector. I was stopped and struck from behind, by a SUV travelling at 60 mph. That was almost five months ago. I cant seem to comprehend what people are saying and my speech is shaky and i stutter. My arms flail about as if i had tourettes. I saw a neurologist and he thought it was PTSD. The MRI result isTECHNIQUE:
Sagittal T1 weighted and axial T1 weighted, T2 weighted, flair, gradient-echo, and diffusion weighted images of the brain along with coronal gradient-echo images of the brain.
FINDINGS:
Extensive white matter abnormalities are seen bilaterally with predominantly periventricular involvement as well as multiple small lesions in the deep matter and at least one juxta cortical lesion. At least one lesion is seen within the right cerebellar hemisphere. These lesions do not have any significant mass effect. No infarct or hemorrhage is seen. There is no evidence of prior shear injury. There is no shift or herniation. There is no hydrocephalus.
A heterogeneous approximately 4cm expansile lesion is seen within the calvaria at the parietal vertex centered just to the left of midline and extending across the midline corresponding to the lytic lesion seen on CT. This does not extend through the inner or outer table of the calvarial cortex.
I'm currently taking Baclofen, iburprofen, demerol, Someone mentioned I might have MS? I was healthy up until the day of the accident and now i'm not even independent. I've lost my fine motor skills as well as memory and numbers. Can i get another opinion please! Is anyone else suffering what feels like brain damage, because of a car accident? Could it be my spine??
Sagittal T1 weighted and axial T1 weighted, T2 weighted, flair, gradient-echo, and diffusion weighted images of the brain along with coronal gradient-echo images of the brain.
FINDINGS:
Extensive white matter abnormalities are seen bilaterally with predominantly periventricular involvement as well as multiple small lesions in the deep matter and at least one juxta cortical lesion. At least one lesion is seen within the right cerebellar hemisphere. These lesions do not have any significant mass effect. No infarct or hemorrhage is seen. There is no evidence of prior shear injury. There is no shift or herniation. There is no hydrocephalus.
A heterogeneous approximately 4cm expansile lesion is seen within the calvaria at the parietal vertex centered just to the left of midline and extending across the midline corresponding to the lytic lesion seen on CT. This does not extend through the inner or outer table of the calvarial cortex.
I'm currently taking Baclofen, iburprofen, demerol, Someone mentioned I might have MS? I was healthy up until the day of the accident and now i'm not even independent. I've lost my fine motor skills as well as memory and numbers. Can i get another opinion please! Is anyone else suffering what feels like brain damage, because of a car accident? Could it be my spine??
I am a pharmacist, and i was also diagnosed with MS since 5 years.I'm 24 years old now & i will keep on fighting my illness because life deserves to live it in a special way & we should be there all the time to help other people...
Thank you all, for a quick response and kindness!
Quix: The neurologist said i was A tipical! and pulled my mother aside and asked her if i had mental issues. This was prior to my MRI. After hearing that, i took myself off all my meds...thinking it was my meds fault. ( big mistake.. i paid dearly for that) I'm an herbal girl who took echaneicia and vitamin c for colds and glucosamine, when i worked 16hrs a day. Now i realize the necessity of pharmaceuticals.
Kikayg: I love the sound of that Accai berry, I will definitely give that a go. It's sounds more up my alley then meds. When i can actually use the phone without troubles i would love to call you!
Ess: It most certainly has wreaked havoc on my brain and body. I do hope this all goes away though! Or at the very least, go back to hiding, when i showed no sign's.
I guess that's a little much to be asking...but does anyone ever heel from this?
When they speak about remission..Do they mean the symptoms have disappeared?
Can they lay dormant again, once they appear? Wow sorry, It appears I had more questions then i thought. Thank you all SO VERY VERY MUCH. I will get a spine MRI, like you suggested and i'm keeping my fingers crossed that i do not have MS.
But i have a feeling, that i'll be with you guys for a long long time. After all i'm only 37.
queen isis
Quix: The neurologist said i was A tipical! and pulled my mother aside and asked her if i had mental issues. This was prior to my MRI. After hearing that, i took myself off all my meds...thinking it was my meds fault. ( big mistake.. i paid dearly for that) I'm an herbal girl who took echaneicia and vitamin c for colds and glucosamine, when i worked 16hrs a day. Now i realize the necessity of pharmaceuticals.
Kikayg: I love the sound of that Accai berry, I will definitely give that a go. It's sounds more up my alley then meds. When i can actually use the phone without troubles i would love to call you!
Ess: It most certainly has wreaked havoc on my brain and body. I do hope this all goes away though! Or at the very least, go back to hiding, when i showed no sign's.
I guess that's a little much to be asking...but does anyone ever heel from this?
When they speak about remission..Do they mean the symptoms have disappeared?
Can they lay dormant again, once they appear? Wow sorry, It appears I had more questions then i thought. Thank you all SO VERY VERY MUCH. I will get a spine MRI, like you suggested and i'm keeping my fingers crossed that i do not have MS.
But i have a feeling, that i'll be with you guys for a long long time. After all i'm only 37.
queen isis
Hello queenisis,
I felt that your experience is like mine. On march 2, 2006 I was struck in the back by an SUV.I felt sudden shooting pain in my back since then I have been feeling pain . Went to Chiro,Accupuncture ,Endo ,GI, Infectious disease ,Rheumatoid Arthritis doctor, and the only thing they found out is my Vitamin D is very very low.I developed weakness and tingling around my lips, and sometimes fingers.I subjected my self for MRI of my brain last month. The results says small punctate foci and increase intensity in the white matter area of the brain. For a young patient like her pls consider dyemelination. I was very upset because I looked it up and this findings are related to MS. I saw the neurologist on Wednesday and he believes it's not MS. Heneeds to see the film but the MRI result is normal. Radiologist needs to cover their back when they give their report. I will subject myself for Evoke potential this week and I pray it's going to be normal.
I'am a nurse by profession and decided to become a Broker in Real Estate.last year my inspector called me and gave me a bottle called MONAVIE. I refused to drink it and ignored it. Last month my pain came back and it's associated with weakness,tingling and shooting pain in the back.I called my chiropractor and did an emergency manipulation.I He higly recommed Monavie and the moment I took it the very next day I felt really good and my pain had subsided almost 80%. I became a distributor and introduced to my friends and family. Believe it or not they felt good and less pain. I attended 2 big conferences and the testimonies of these people were amazing. Last Sunday I picked up a distributor who had MS since 27 years old. He is now 40 yers old he was suicidal from all the meds. He was given Monavie and now he is walking without any cane ,no meds, strong and his story was featured in the paper. As I said I'am a nurse and I just don't believe in this things but I will tell you this go to youtube and click on monavie news .This is a miracle juice Accai berries is God sent. As you can see i'am not a writer I can't express myself well in emails. I thank God for He is our great Physician..May we give al our pains ,aches problems to Him. He promise to give us peace.
Kikayg
I felt that your experience is like mine. On march 2, 2006 I was struck in the back by an SUV.I felt sudden shooting pain in my back since then I have been feeling pain . Went to Chiro,Accupuncture ,Endo ,GI, Infectious disease ,Rheumatoid Arthritis doctor, and the only thing they found out is my Vitamin D is very very low.I developed weakness and tingling around my lips, and sometimes fingers.I subjected my self for MRI of my brain last month. The results says small punctate foci and increase intensity in the white matter area of the brain. For a young patient like her pls consider dyemelination. I was very upset because I looked it up and this findings are related to MS. I saw the neurologist on Wednesday and he believes it's not MS. Heneeds to see the film but the MRI result is normal. Radiologist needs to cover their back when they give their report. I will subject myself for Evoke potential this week and I pray it's going to be normal.
I'am a nurse by profession and decided to become a Broker in Real Estate.last year my inspector called me and gave me a bottle called MONAVIE. I refused to drink it and ignored it. Last month my pain came back and it's associated with weakness,tingling and shooting pain in the back.I called my chiropractor and did an emergency manipulation.I He higly recommed Monavie and the moment I took it the very next day I felt really good and my pain had subsided almost 80%. I became a distributor and introduced to my friends and family. Believe it or not they felt good and less pain. I attended 2 big conferences and the testimonies of these people were amazing. Last Sunday I picked up a distributor who had MS since 27 years old. He is now 40 yers old he was suicidal from all the meds. He was given Monavie and now he is walking without any cane ,no meds, strong and his story was featured in the paper. As I said I'am a nurse and I just don't believe in this things but I will tell you this go to youtube and click on monavie news .This is a miracle juice Accai berries is God sent. As you can see i'am not a writer I can't express myself well in emails. I thank God for He is our great Physician..May we give al our pains ,aches problems to Him. He promise to give us peace.
Kikayg
Hello and welcome.
Quix has given you good advice. She is a physician, though not a neurologist, and has done a huge amount of research on MS. She has helped scores of us here, and probably many more who have not posted but who have read what she's written on this forum.
It is surprising how many people who post here have had their disease discovered by accident. A couple were just trying out new MRI machines since they worked in the field. Others have had CT scans or other tests that led to MRIs being ordered.
MS can wreak havoc with only one lesion. Conversely, a person might have dozens of brain lesions and no symptoms at all. That's because the luck of the draw, at least at first, was that lesions formed in areas that didn't affect movement or senses. In MS, sooner or later this evens out.
Many of us have come to the forum when what we knew our bodies were feeling was not what the medical community was telling us. We have learned a huge amount in staying here, including not to let someone give us a psychiatric diagnosis that amounts to a cop-out. We stay, as we continue to learn, because we get such a well-spring of support that can't be matched anywhere else. Even our dearest family members cannot possibly understand 'where we're coming from,' but the forum membership can, and does, every day.
So please look around here. Check out our Health Pages (far right at top of screen), to learn lots. If it turns out you have MS, or even if it doesn't, you are most welcome.
ess
Quix has given you good advice. She is a physician, though not a neurologist, and has done a huge amount of research on MS. She has helped scores of us here, and probably many more who have not posted but who have read what she's written on this forum.
It is surprising how many people who post here have had their disease discovered by accident. A couple were just trying out new MRI machines since they worked in the field. Others have had CT scans or other tests that led to MRIs being ordered.
MS can wreak havoc with only one lesion. Conversely, a person might have dozens of brain lesions and no symptoms at all. That's because the luck of the draw, at least at first, was that lesions formed in areas that didn't affect movement or senses. In MS, sooner or later this evens out.
Many of us have come to the forum when what we knew our bodies were feeling was not what the medical community was telling us. We have learned a huge amount in staying here, including not to let someone give us a psychiatric diagnosis that amounts to a cop-out. We stay, as we continue to learn, because we get such a well-spring of support that can't be matched anywhere else. Even our dearest family members cannot possibly understand 'where we're coming from,' but the forum membership can, and does, every day.
So please look around here. Check out our Health Pages (far right at top of screen), to learn lots. If it turns out you have MS, or even if it doesn't, you are most welcome.
ess
Re-reading your psot, I see that you have seen a neurologist and he suggested PSDT. Was that before or after he saw the results of the MRI? If it was after, then yes!, yes! you need to seee another neurologist for a second opinion.
Hi, and welcome to the forum. I'm so sorry for what you are going through.
The short answer to your question is a definite, "No." Physical trauma does not cause MS. However, physical trauma "may" cause the underlying disease to show up when it might have shown up a little later.
It also sounds like you may have some effects of closed head trauma, if that was one of your injuries.
The best research indicates that MS is the result of a combination of a genetic make up that predisposes one to MS, an infectious trigger in the past, (very possibly Epstein Barr Virus) and also some problem with Vitamin D. That is is very brief answer for an extremely complex answer.
In the past it was thought that head trauma could be a cause, but that theory has not shown to be valid in recent years.
It is funny (weird) that often, people discover their MS because they had an MRI for some other reason, like a concussion, or being a volunteer testing a new type of MRI machine. We have several people here on this forum who discovered their brain lesions before their symptoms.
It is also known that people often have the brain lesions for quite some time before the first symptoms.
Your MRI findings do sound like the lesions in MS, or any of the other MS-like illnesses that cause such brain lesions.
The "expansile lesion" though is outside the brain and is something else.
We couldn't speak to whether you also have a PSDT from the accident, but that pattern of brain lesion would not be caused by a severe trauma.
Given the brain MRI findings it is important that you get a spinal cord MRI on the highest resolution machine available and that you see a neurologist about your symptoms. I think it would be a good idea to see an MS Specialist.
I'm sure you understand that no one can diagnose anything online. We just try to give people the best information we can. I am a physician with MS who hangs out here to help with medical info. I was NOT a neurologist. I hope you stay with us. You have a lot of frightening things going on and we can help with support and information. Yes, having MS does feel like having brain damage because it IS brain damage.
Quix
The short answer to your question is a definite, "No." Physical trauma does not cause MS. However, physical trauma "may" cause the underlying disease to show up when it might have shown up a little later.
It also sounds like you may have some effects of closed head trauma, if that was one of your injuries.
The best research indicates that MS is the result of a combination of a genetic make up that predisposes one to MS, an infectious trigger in the past, (very possibly Epstein Barr Virus) and also some problem with Vitamin D. That is is very brief answer for an extremely complex answer.
In the past it was thought that head trauma could be a cause, but that theory has not shown to be valid in recent years.
It is funny (weird) that often, people discover their MS because they had an MRI for some other reason, like a concussion, or being a volunteer testing a new type of MRI machine. We have several people here on this forum who discovered their brain lesions before their symptoms.
It is also known that people often have the brain lesions for quite some time before the first symptoms.
Your MRI findings do sound like the lesions in MS, or any of the other MS-like illnesses that cause such brain lesions.
The "expansile lesion" though is outside the brain and is something else.
We couldn't speak to whether you also have a PSDT from the accident, but that pattern of brain lesion would not be caused by a severe trauma.
Given the brain MRI findings it is important that you get a spinal cord MRI on the highest resolution machine available and that you see a neurologist about your symptoms. I think it would be a good idea to see an MS Specialist.
I'm sure you understand that no one can diagnose anything online. We just try to give people the best information we can. I am a physician with MS who hangs out here to help with medical info. I was NOT a neurologist. I hope you stay with us. You have a lot of frightening things going on and we can help with support and information. Yes, having MS does feel like having brain damage because it IS brain damage.
Quix
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