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Subutex or Suboxone Withdrawal
Has anyone dealt with longterm subutex withdrawal?
My husband has a chronic back pain condition and has been on ALL the narcotics - oxis, methadone, morphines, etc. etc. for over 10 years. He has gone through withdrawal programs about 5 times, and at-home withdrawal countless. The last formal program substituted the opioids with subutex, and thus he was able to get off the morphines, but is addicted to subutex.
The interesting thing about subutex, which is in the opioid family, but is an antagonist to the morphines, is that when he stops taking it, he has about 10 days of pain free feeling great living, and then he goes into a spastic uncontrollable body flailing, semi conscious state for about 12 hours, and then he goes into unbearable pain after that, and therefore has to take the drug again for the pain. Has anyone experienced the same thing and made it over the hump?
My husband has a chronic back pain condition and has been on ALL the narcotics - oxis, methadone, morphines, etc. etc. for over 10 years. He has gone through withdrawal programs about 5 times, and at-home withdrawal countless. The last formal program substituted the opioids with subutex, and thus he was able to get off the morphines, but is addicted to subutex.
The interesting thing about subutex, which is in the opioid family, but is an antagonist to the morphines, is that when he stops taking it, he has about 10 days of pain free feeling great living, and then he goes into a spastic uncontrollable body flailing, semi conscious state for about 12 hours, and then he goes into unbearable pain after that, and therefore has to take the drug again for the pain. Has anyone experienced the same thing and made it over the hump?
Hey mate im in my 12th time comming off suboxone im taking co- codamol 30/500 i find it helps but the sleeping gets me everytime. Everyone is different sum can sleep sum cant. Ive just finnished taking methadone 70mls after an 8yr addiction. I came off it in prison but left prison with a 2mg subby habbit. It doesnt matter how much u take of that **** the rattle is always the same an made even worse u have to do it infront of relitives lol! The cocos really do help though as i get a lump in my throat an cant stop swollowing my sulliva in the morning. Its pure stupid to *** off it with nothing to help with symptoms. Good luck mate
I am currently withdrawing from buprenorphine after 1 year, I have to say it leaves you puzzled.
The idea is that the syndrome lasts longer but less intense than getting off the brown (heroin). The only problem is that it has a massive life 2-3 days after the last dose before the syndrome truly kicks in.
I personally have been using 4-6 30/500 co-codamol pills a day along with 10-30mg of diazepam just to releive the sweats and other discomfort.
I also have some Zydol (Trammadol) but I am sceptical of using it due to the bad reviews across the net when you finally stop.
After reading your post, it seems that he has a massive dependence. He needs to reduce the dosage every 3-4 days by 0.3 mg then when he gets to 0.5 mg keep him there for 4 weeks, subbies are so powerful and this will work. I would recommend 5mg of diazepam per day for the last 2 days of subbies then 10mg per day for 2 weeks after.
For the pain relief use co-codamol 30/500 or dhc 30mg 3-4 times daily for 4 weeks.
After this (depending on his feeling) drop the diazepam to 5mg a day and the dhc to 30mg 2 times a day for one week.
You should be able to stop after this, but make sure that he has something to keep him occupied
The idea is that the syndrome lasts longer but less intense than getting off the brown (heroin). The only problem is that it has a massive life 2-3 days after the last dose before the syndrome truly kicks in.
I personally have been using 4-6 30/500 co-codamol pills a day along with 10-30mg of diazepam just to releive the sweats and other discomfort.
I also have some Zydol (Trammadol) but I am sceptical of using it due to the bad reviews across the net when you finally stop.
After reading your post, it seems that he has a massive dependence. He needs to reduce the dosage every 3-4 days by 0.3 mg then when he gets to 0.5 mg keep him there for 4 weeks, subbies are so powerful and this will work. I would recommend 5mg of diazepam per day for the last 2 days of subbies then 10mg per day for 2 weeks after.
For the pain relief use co-codamol 30/500 or dhc 30mg 3-4 times daily for 4 weeks.
After this (depending on his feeling) drop the diazepam to 5mg a day and the dhc to 30mg 2 times a day for one week.
You should be able to stop after this, but make sure that he has something to keep him occupied
When he stops the subutex is he doing so on doctors orders? The reason I ask is it is more common for a patient to be weened off this medication instead of going cold turkey.
Is he wanting to stop taking it all together? The thing that most people do not understand about chronic pain is it is a diease that has to be treated medically just as with any other disease. Treating the disease is treating the pain and this has to be done for any quality of life. I know the idea of taking pain medication on a regular basis scares alot of people but this is due to the fact that the drug abusers do abuse these types of medicines and therefore the stigma gets attached to those who genuinely need and have to have this the medications.
Taking opioids to control chronic pain is a common treatment but not the only one that's available. There are other options available.
Is he wanting to stop taking it all together? The thing that most people do not understand about chronic pain is it is a diease that has to be treated medically just as with any other disease. Treating the disease is treating the pain and this has to be done for any quality of life. I know the idea of taking pain medication on a regular basis scares alot of people but this is due to the fact that the drug abusers do abuse these types of medicines and therefore the stigma gets attached to those who genuinely need and have to have this the medications.
Taking opioids to control chronic pain is a common treatment but not the only one that's available. There are other options available.
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