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Abortion
A pregnant woman was murdered (shot by gun) in my city. The person who shot her may be tried for two murders: hers and that of her unborn baby. I just don't understand how a doctor can abort a baby and say they "aren't human yet" and yet someone can be tried for the murder of an unborn baby? The very definition of murder is "to kill a human being". Somewhere along the line SOMEONE is wrong
I'm not trying to start an argument, but bring to the table some more information. If we don't stand up for the helpless, who else will? I was reading some literature at the preg. center on abortion and there was a panel of doctors who were asked to sit down and try to pinpoint the time in which an unborn baby is deemed "human". None of them could deny that it was at conception, or shortly after conception.
And I'm also not condemning anyone whose had an abortion. Please don't think that! There is help for any of you who has had one and is struggling (www.hopeafterabortion.com).
I'm not trying to start an argument, but bring to the table some more information. If we don't stand up for the helpless, who else will? I was reading some literature at the preg. center on abortion and there was a panel of doctors who were asked to sit down and try to pinpoint the time in which an unborn baby is deemed "human". None of them could deny that it was at conception, or shortly after conception.
And I'm also not condemning anyone whose had an abortion. Please don't think that! There is help for any of you who has had one and is struggling (www.hopeafterabortion.com).
I think this post is so unfair. I understand how everyone is entitled to their opinions and i get it but you make people like me so mad because you are all judging someone youont know and dont know their circumstances. I have had 2 terminations and strongly beleive in family. I had my terminations because i felt that was best for myself and the babys and im not going to explain myself because it has nothing to do with any of you but id just like to add one last thing, you are making people uncomfortable and judging them. I had a friend comit suicide 2 weeks agoor reading a post like this one because she felt everyone was judging her so if abortion is murder then maybe people like you are also responsible for deaths like that. Said my piece now just think about it.
I was raped at 15 and kept my son. EVERYBODY except my mother was trying to get me to abort my baby. Even the doctors. Nobody even mentioned adoption to me although it still would not of been am option I chose. Sickens me that people blame the child for their mistakes or others for that matter in rape cases. My child did not choose to be conceived but I CHOSE life for him. He is precious and I love him with all my heart. When I look at him I see me in him because I choose not to see his "father". Somebody said they couldn't love their kid because it would be part "monster"?? How because his father was? If your mother or father did something wrong in their life does that make who YOU are? It doesn't do that is stupid to me. Do not kill innocent children. I am pro life all the way.
I have had two abortions this year, one at 7 weeks amd one at 8 weeks and got pregnant again soon after and now 23 weeks pregnant. I dont think they say its not a human, meaning as ther something else other but to me I believe you hear that they arent human to make it a little easier on the abortionist and the aborter, for those who really dont want to bring ther babies into this world, for those who actually need to abort ther children. If you say to anyone your killling your baby, a human its really hurtful to hear but if thers beliefs that ther not human yet its much easier. For myself, ther human from even before conception, I do believe I killed my children, I chose for them to die and I blame myself for all of it. But honestly I wouldnt change it, I would rather them in heaven then here, call me wrong and heartless but my children arent yours. I will choose what I believe is best for them. My friend before I went for mine told me my baby has a heart its life its me. I had to do what I did. It may be wrong for some but I dont care cause it was right for me to do that. I am depressed over them, I dont believe I deserve to be pregnant at all but obviously my child knows that I did make the right choice. The doctor to abort this ladies baby, depending on how far a long she was, how developed this baby was, he may have made the right choice. Really think about it. For him to make that choice though was wrong and he should be panished for that. It wasnt his baby to make that choice and the man who shot her shouldnt be charged with 2 murders when the doctor took the babys life.
The reason he is tried on the count of double homicide is becaude since the woman was still pregnant at the time of the crime, it is presumed she had full intention of delivering that human and he took that would-be-tangible life.
Abortion has to do with the mothers inherent right to decide the future of the fetus within her.
I am not saying I am pro or against. I am simply explaining how the courts see the two cases.
Abortion has to do with the mothers inherent right to decide the future of the fetus within her.
I am not saying I am pro or against. I am simply explaining how the courts see the two cases.
Im 4weeks with my first child...look 4 get a Abortion unless yhu would want ur fetus getting shipped to another country and getting sold in a can and ate on a platter... Think im lying go on youtube and type in "Eating Human Fetus" bet yhu wont get another 1..!!!
Well I think that if they are raped they should have the option. I mean you SHOULD just get the morning after pill, but if somehow you cant you should in that case have the choice. I mean if I were raped I wouldnt be able to keep it. Even if it's life, the guy who raped me is obviously a bad person to rape so I couldn't live with the fact that my child is part criminal-monster. Im not saying that the child couldnt end up wonderful, but it would weigh on my mind way too much, and without knowing his history or anything I wouldn't want to risk all these unknown posibilities onto my child. As for adoption, couldn't do it. I know myself, I couldn't give up my kid after 9 months of pregnancy. I would love it and not want to give it up.
Regardless, like I said, id find a way to get that morning after pill. But I am definatly pro choice when rape is envolved, and it should be done by a doctor in those cases.
Otherwise I don't even want to imagine ever wanting to remove life from me. I want my baby to be healthy, and I totally agree, killling them is murder, they just don't want to admit that it is. it's sad really. I don't even want to think about it.
Regardless, like I said, id find a way to get that morning after pill. But I am definatly pro choice when rape is envolved, and it should be done by a doctor in those cases.
Otherwise I don't even want to imagine ever wanting to remove life from me. I want my baby to be healthy, and I totally agree, killling them is murder, they just don't want to admit that it is. it's sad really. I don't even want to think about it.
You're a strong, woman, GA! I dont' condemn you or judge you for your past. And just think YOUR TESTIMONY could save lives... Honestly, sometimes God allows us to go through things to help us help others. Others who might not be as strong.
Your little one is waiting for you in Jesus' arms. I don't think they blame you or hate you or anything like that. They understand! And I'm so sorry you had to go through with that. I have to say I'm so glad you've been able to conceive again.
I just read a poem today (I went to Birthright today) and it was by a woman who had three abortions before she was 20. When she got pregnant after the three abortions, she miscarried. She could not describe the depth of her sorrow for what she had done. Finally she got pregnant again but her baby was born at 7 months (it didn't say whether they lived or died).
No one educated her at all on abortion. Girls don't have information. Just look at the people who wander on here with seemingly simple questions! I really hope Planned Parenthood is made to give mandatory ultrasounds.
Your little one is waiting for you in Jesus' arms. I don't think they blame you or hate you or anything like that. They understand! And I'm so sorry you had to go through with that. I have to say I'm so glad you've been able to conceive again.
I just read a poem today (I went to Birthright today) and it was by a woman who had three abortions before she was 20. When she got pregnant after the three abortions, she miscarried. She could not describe the depth of her sorrow for what she had done. Finally she got pregnant again but her baby was born at 7 months (it didn't say whether they lived or died).
No one educated her at all on abortion. Girls don't have information. Just look at the people who wander on here with seemingly simple questions! I really hope Planned Parenthood is made to give mandatory ultrasounds.
Im so sorry about what happened with u dear...its not something u chose to do by urself...it just happened...Try not to go on a guilt trip cos that ll make u feel even worse...Just try to be more careful about getting pregnant until and unles u really want the baby to save yourself from guilt...takecare...
I've seen diagrams and read about the types of abortion. Which really really makes me sick to my stomach becuase I let my mom talk me into having one when I was 17. Had I know THEN what I know NOW there is absolutely no way in HELL I would have gone through with it. It makes me want to know throw up thinking about it. It's just thoroughly disgusting and I do NOT see how ANY sane human being can perform such an act and still be able to sleep at night.
When I first got pregnant I went to a "free" clinic here, which is actually a ministry. Like Joy said, by law they have to present info on all options but they strongly try to encourage women to seek options away from abortion. Last year was the first year they had ultrasound technology and they were able to save 65 babies from being aborted which was almost double from the year before w/o the u/s machine. They have made it standard practice (so long as the woman consents) to do a urine test and if it's positive, they do the ultrasound to "verify" the pregnancy. I didn't know this but my town doesn't have an abortion clinic within 2 hours of it in any direction that anyone at that clinic is aware of. Anyone here who wants one has to drive to Atlanta. I wish that I had more time and energy and knowledge to devote to trying to push the things I mentioned in my earlier post.
When I first got pregnant I went to a "free" clinic here, which is actually a ministry. Like Joy said, by law they have to present info on all options but they strongly try to encourage women to seek options away from abortion. Last year was the first year they had ultrasound technology and they were able to save 65 babies from being aborted which was almost double from the year before w/o the u/s machine. They have made it standard practice (so long as the woman consents) to do a urine test and if it's positive, they do the ultrasound to "verify" the pregnancy. I didn't know this but my town doesn't have an abortion clinic within 2 hours of it in any direction that anyone at that clinic is aware of. Anyone here who wants one has to drive to Atlanta. I wish that I had more time and energy and knowledge to devote to trying to push the things I mentioned in my earlier post.
yea, thats all they tell you, the good, they dont tell you what it consist of, thats so sad
I totally meant it was lawful for them to use embryonic material. I wasn't referring to the company you just mentioned. I didn't hear about that.
Well it's lawful for them to do it since everyone voted for stem cell research. I didn't vote for it because I researched it. But all everyone ever heard about was the good stem cell research would do, for cures and all. Not everyone realized it was at the expense of dead babies.
OMG THATS SO SICK, MY DH WAS JUST TELING ME THAT SOME COMANY GOT CAUGHT DOING EXPERMENTS ON NEWBORNS, THAT THEY WOULD BUY THE BABYS FROM MOTHERS WHO DIDNT WANT THEM. GRRRR THAT MAKES ME SO MAD
OMG!!!!!!!!! You guys have to read this... I do not know if this is true or fiction but I think I AM GOING TO THROW UP!
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Abortion%20is%20Murder/aborted_fetus_vaccines.htm
Aborted fetal material used in vaccines?! I know that the stem cell research uses embryonic material. And apparently there are companies who BUY aborted baby parts for research! These people are making a killing (no pun intended) on the generations that are being killed off.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Abortion%20is%20Murder/aborted_fetus_vaccines.htm
Aborted fetal material used in vaccines?! I know that the stem cell research uses embryonic material. And apparently there are companies who BUY aborted baby parts for research! These people are making a killing (no pun intended) on the generations that are being killed off.
Ahh.. just checked out that website and I'm so sick to my stomach I think I'm going to puke... no joke!!! I heard that a woman can request an abortion when she delivers a baby and they'll do the "comfort care" and just let the baby die. I wasn't sure about it, so never said anything, but now I know for sure. This is real people. Innnocent babies are being born and left in hospitals without care and are dying of "natural causes". THAT is so inhumane and disgusting... I just don't understand!!! Doctors take OATHS to protect life and do all in their power to save lives... But to allow an INNOCENT baby to just lie there and scream and cry with no love or comfort until they just give up?!
I cannot and will not watch Silent Scream. I think I will vomit if I do. I just can't do it!
I cannot and will not watch Silent Scream. I think I will vomit if I do. I just can't do it!
yea, i went to school with a girl that died from doing that hanger deal, it was so sad. she had been raped and was sffraid to tell anybody and found out she was preg and tried to kill it herself, they say she bleed to death
Well the term "abortion" is originally used to term "miscarriage". The word abortion has been twisted and turned into the ugly thing we now know. I don't have a problem with the word, I have a problem with the actions! If you have a m/c, the doctor actually writes "Spontaneous Abortion" on your file, which is the technical term for a loss before 20 weeks. It is considered "Stillborn" if it happens after 20 weeks.
GA, you're exactly right! I never tell anyone to go to Planned Parenthood. By law they are supposed to present a girl/woman with information on ALL her options, but they really talk them INTO the abortion because they kept money for it. That is how they stay in business. They are not a non-profit organization. There's a lot of deeper stuff but I won't go into it, about what they do. Something definitely has to be done.
Working at Birthright, I'm not allowed to picket, go on strike, or make any public attempts at "outlawing" abortion. In fact, if the government were to outlaw abortions, women would find more harmful ways to abort the baby (using a hanger on herself, drinking poisons, having bf's jump on their stomachs, etc.). I REALLY REALLY REALLY like GA's suggestions and hopefully all of you not affiliated with an organization can get it out there.
GA, you're exactly right! I never tell anyone to go to Planned Parenthood. By law they are supposed to present a girl/woman with information on ALL her options, but they really talk them INTO the abortion because they kept money for it. That is how they stay in business. They are not a non-profit organization. There's a lot of deeper stuff but I won't go into it, about what they do. Something definitely has to be done.
Working at Birthright, I'm not allowed to picket, go on strike, or make any public attempts at "outlawing" abortion. In fact, if the government were to outlaw abortions, women would find more harmful ways to abort the baby (using a hanger on herself, drinking poisons, having bf's jump on their stomachs, etc.). I REALLY REALLY REALLY like GA's suggestions and hopefully all of you not affiliated with an organization can get it out there.
when i had my m/c i was 9 weeks, but the baby never devepled. my doc talked to me at my 2 week check up after my d and c and was talking about having a m/c is loosing a baby, even if it didnt develope its still a baby!! thats what he said. sorry had to share that. sniff
Everytime I see a doctor they ask me "Is this your first pregnancy?" I say "No I miscarried at 5weeks before" and the doctor tells me "Oh, then it wasn't a miscarraige, it was an abortion. Any babies before 20 weeks are referred as abortion..." It kind of upsets me that many people make it sound as if before 20 weeks, the baby is not a human. That's sad...a heartbeat in a baby can be detected as early 4 weeks...the baby is human...the baby is life at conception...in my eyes...I can't watch those videos, in high school they made us watch one of those abortion videos and I had to refuse to watch it, it's just sad...I've known of girls getting abortions at 6 months, 7 months, and it's just sad...
yes that's the one.... I also just watched The Silent Scream. I don't really know why I do this to myself when I get interested in something. I guess in the end just makes me feel more strongly about it than I already did.
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