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Could the doctor be wrong?
Okay, so this will probably be as confusing to all of you as it is to me, but hopefully someone will understand and be able to offer some advice or knowledge from a similar experience.
I am currently 10 weeks pregnant.
I had my first prenatal appointment this past Monday, March 9, 2009.
Everything went great until I did my ultrasound.
The ultrasound technician only spent a total of about 5 minutes on my ultrasound, less than one minute which was devoted to trying to find my baby's heartbeat. She spent less than a minute then quit doing the ultrasound, the heartbeat wasn't detected. Two of my friends are currently pregnant as well, one of which took 30 minutes to find her baby's heartbeat and the other just said it took them a while to find hers.
I was told that my pregnancy may not be viable.
That night, March 9, 2009, I am 99.9% positive that I felt the baby flutter. It was in my uterus on the left side. Kinda felt like a fish was going back and forth (from top to bottom) creating waves that almost felt like they had a gentle vibration to them. I felt this for 10-20 seconds, but then I moved and could not feel it any longer.
The following morning, March 10, 2009, I woke up extremely hot. I felt like it was 80 degrees when it was only 55 degrees. I could not cool down for anything. Also, I had really bad nausea, a headache that lasted two days (until March 11, 2009), was moody, and exhausted from doing nothing. That evening I cooled down, but would freeze and couldn't get warm for anything. I usually go through this when my hormones rise. One of my, also pregnant, friends goes through the same thing, except she is 5 months along.
Then on March 11, 2009, I had more blood work done. Still had all my normal symptoms.
Today, March 12, 2009, I had a recheck with the doctor and he proceeded to tell me that my hcg levels have dropped "a little bit" and that the pregnancy isn't viable. I told him about how I had felt the baby flutters and how I was certain my hormones had risen due to the symptoms. Then I requested a new ultrasound be done with someone different, for a second opinion. I go on March 17, 2009 to have the new ultrasound done.
**I still have all my symptoms, they actually progress as time goes on. I saw the baby in the ultrasound (my first one on March 9th) and everything looked normal the baby definitely was following schedule. I was 9 weeks and 4 days on march 9th. I have had NO symptoms of miscarriage. None at all!!**
So my question is:
Does anyone know what could be going on? The doctor says non-viable pregnancy, but I felt the flutters and have no symptoms of a miscarriage. Also, does it mean 100% that if your hormones drop "a little bit" (exact words of the doctor) that you will have a miscarriage? Nothing makes sense to me and Tuesday is so far away!! Please help!!
I am currently 10 weeks pregnant.
I had my first prenatal appointment this past Monday, March 9, 2009.
Everything went great until I did my ultrasound.
The ultrasound technician only spent a total of about 5 minutes on my ultrasound, less than one minute which was devoted to trying to find my baby's heartbeat. She spent less than a minute then quit doing the ultrasound, the heartbeat wasn't detected. Two of my friends are currently pregnant as well, one of which took 30 minutes to find her baby's heartbeat and the other just said it took them a while to find hers.
I was told that my pregnancy may not be viable.
That night, March 9, 2009, I am 99.9% positive that I felt the baby flutter. It was in my uterus on the left side. Kinda felt like a fish was going back and forth (from top to bottom) creating waves that almost felt like they had a gentle vibration to them. I felt this for 10-20 seconds, but then I moved and could not feel it any longer.
The following morning, March 10, 2009, I woke up extremely hot. I felt like it was 80 degrees when it was only 55 degrees. I could not cool down for anything. Also, I had really bad nausea, a headache that lasted two days (until March 11, 2009), was moody, and exhausted from doing nothing. That evening I cooled down, but would freeze and couldn't get warm for anything. I usually go through this when my hormones rise. One of my, also pregnant, friends goes through the same thing, except she is 5 months along.
Then on March 11, 2009, I had more blood work done. Still had all my normal symptoms.
Today, March 12, 2009, I had a recheck with the doctor and he proceeded to tell me that my hcg levels have dropped "a little bit" and that the pregnancy isn't viable. I told him about how I had felt the baby flutters and how I was certain my hormones had risen due to the symptoms. Then I requested a new ultrasound be done with someone different, for a second opinion. I go on March 17, 2009 to have the new ultrasound done.
**I still have all my symptoms, they actually progress as time goes on. I saw the baby in the ultrasound (my first one on March 9th) and everything looked normal the baby definitely was following schedule. I was 9 weeks and 4 days on march 9th. I have had NO symptoms of miscarriage. None at all!!**
So my question is:
Does anyone know what could be going on? The doctor says non-viable pregnancy, but I felt the flutters and have no symptoms of a miscarriage. Also, does it mean 100% that if your hormones drop "a little bit" (exact words of the doctor) that you will have a miscarriage? Nothing makes sense to me and Tuesday is so far away!! Please help!!
Okay, so first I would like to apologize to anyone I may have had an attitude towards. I am sorry I acted that way. You were only answering my questions as I asked.
Last night I finally broke down and accepted the loss of my baby. I went to the ER for some peace of mind.
I did find out I have a urinary tract infection, so that is good that I went to the ER. If I hadn't I may not have found out, at least not for a while.
Also, I have been informed this morning that I have inherited an RH factor from my mother. So my body was forming antibodies against my baby. And that is why I had this loss.
I believe that this is not my first pregnancy, but the first one I have seen (caught before a miscarriage.)
Tomorrow I go see one of my doctor's and I will receive a shot to fix the RH factor and will be able to continue with normal pregnancies in the future. So that is a plus.
Also, I will figure out if I will need a D & C, which my mom and I believe I will. We think I had a missed abortion. She had this when she was younger too. Like mother like daughter! :)
As far as my emotion well-being, I am definitely doing okay. I am still a little sad that I lost my baby, but I have accepted the loss and let go. I know my baby is in a better place with the lord above and is looking down on me every day making sure I am okay. I may have lost a baby, but I gained another angel!!
My baby will always have a piece of my heart and I will always remember him. One day we will meet again and it will be precious.
My instincts have pointed to a boy since I found out I was pregnant. So I will move forward believing my baby was a boy. It makes the experience more special, because I can remember my baby as "one" rather than "it!"
I have decided to name the baby Owenn Joshua. Owenn was the name that my instincts chose for me from the beginning and Joshua was his father's best friend's name that had passed away a few years back.
Thanks again everyone and I wish everyone luck with their pregnancies and future pregnancies.
May god bless you all!
Last night I finally broke down and accepted the loss of my baby. I went to the ER for some peace of mind.
I did find out I have a urinary tract infection, so that is good that I went to the ER. If I hadn't I may not have found out, at least not for a while.
Also, I have been informed this morning that I have inherited an RH factor from my mother. So my body was forming antibodies against my baby. And that is why I had this loss.
I believe that this is not my first pregnancy, but the first one I have seen (caught before a miscarriage.)
Tomorrow I go see one of my doctor's and I will receive a shot to fix the RH factor and will be able to continue with normal pregnancies in the future. So that is a plus.
Also, I will figure out if I will need a D & C, which my mom and I believe I will. We think I had a missed abortion. She had this when she was younger too. Like mother like daughter! :)
As far as my emotion well-being, I am definitely doing okay. I am still a little sad that I lost my baby, but I have accepted the loss and let go. I know my baby is in a better place with the lord above and is looking down on me every day making sure I am okay. I may have lost a baby, but I gained another angel!!
My baby will always have a piece of my heart and I will always remember him. One day we will meet again and it will be precious.
My instincts have pointed to a boy since I found out I was pregnant. So I will move forward believing my baby was a boy. It makes the experience more special, because I can remember my baby as "one" rather than "it!"
I have decided to name the baby Owenn Joshua. Owenn was the name that my instincts chose for me from the beginning and Joshua was his father's best friend's name that had passed away a few years back.
Thanks again everyone and I wish everyone luck with their pregnancies and future pregnancies.
May god bless you all!
I'm sorry that you are going through this. I wish it could be easier for you. I don't want to get into an argument with anyone, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But I'll just share my experiences with you.
I had my son in Dec '05. In Sept '06 I found out I was pregnant again. When I found out I was roughly 5 weeks. I went for an ultrasound at 7 weeks and didn't see a heart beat. I was told it was possible it may be too early to see and that the dates could be off. I went back at 9 weeks to try to find a heart beat and no heart beat was detected. The fetus looked bigger and seemed to have moved position, but it turns out gravity had taken over, pulling the fetus down and yok salk up. Baby stoppped growing at 5w4d. So it was early. I was asked if I wanted a D&C and decided to wait a bit longer for a natural miscarriage. Keep in mind it had already been 1 month. After 2 more weeks of no miscarriage I had to take some pills to make it happen. Finally 7 weeks after the fetus stopped growing, I miscarried. This is not to discourage you, just a simple experience.
However, this time around, I found out I was pregnant Oct '08. I concieved Sept '08. I found out at 4w2d. First u/s was at 6 weeks. Couldn't see a heart beat, again, could have been too early. Went back at 8w4d, found a heart beat after 25 minutes. So far it is a healthy pregnancy and I am 26w4d. These are only my experiences. Just thought I'd share them.
I don't want you to lose hope, but I also don't want you to rope yourself into false hope. I think getting another opinion completely seperate from your doctor is a good idea, especially for your own piece of mind. And I hope all turns out well. BUT if it doesn turn out to be bad news, a miscarriage may not happen naturally. You might need intervention. But keep your head up and best of luck.
I had my son in Dec '05. In Sept '06 I found out I was pregnant again. When I found out I was roughly 5 weeks. I went for an ultrasound at 7 weeks and didn't see a heart beat. I was told it was possible it may be too early to see and that the dates could be off. I went back at 9 weeks to try to find a heart beat and no heart beat was detected. The fetus looked bigger and seemed to have moved position, but it turns out gravity had taken over, pulling the fetus down and yok salk up. Baby stoppped growing at 5w4d. So it was early. I was asked if I wanted a D&C and decided to wait a bit longer for a natural miscarriage. Keep in mind it had already been 1 month. After 2 more weeks of no miscarriage I had to take some pills to make it happen. Finally 7 weeks after the fetus stopped growing, I miscarried. This is not to discourage you, just a simple experience.
However, this time around, I found out I was pregnant Oct '08. I concieved Sept '08. I found out at 4w2d. First u/s was at 6 weeks. Couldn't see a heart beat, again, could have been too early. Went back at 8w4d, found a heart beat after 25 minutes. So far it is a healthy pregnancy and I am 26w4d. These are only my experiences. Just thought I'd share them.
I don't want you to lose hope, but I also don't want you to rope yourself into false hope. I think getting another opinion completely seperate from your doctor is a good idea, especially for your own piece of mind. And I hope all turns out well. BUT if it doesn turn out to be bad news, a miscarriage may not happen naturally. You might need intervention. But keep your head up and best of luck.
Actually a month to wait for miscarriage is not uncommon. I had a missed miscarriage. Baby stopped growing at 8 wks 1 day at 13 wks 3 days I had my IPS ultrasound (NT scan) and found out. At 14 weeks 4 days they gave me pills to induce my miscarriage. I had no cramping, no spotting, and all my symptoms up untill the pills. That is 6 weeks after I miscarried that my pregnancy continued. The tech didn't take long to do the ultrasound as it is very apparent to them when there is no heart beat.
You said the baby changed location. My baby was lying in the exact same position as yours, I think gravity will ultimately pull the baby downward as yours and mine both were. As well with a missed miscarriage your uterus and placenta continue to develop and there for things look bigger and are in different places.
I also cannot see why the doctor would lie to you. They want the best for you and taking a healthy baby from you is not the best for you or obviously for the unborn baby.
I am hoping that you are right, but I don't want you to hold out false hope as it will hurt that much more should it be a miscarriage.
I am hoping for all the best for you. Please keep us updated.
You said the baby changed location. My baby was lying in the exact same position as yours, I think gravity will ultimately pull the baby downward as yours and mine both were. As well with a missed miscarriage your uterus and placenta continue to develop and there for things look bigger and are in different places.
I also cannot see why the doctor would lie to you. They want the best for you and taking a healthy baby from you is not the best for you or obviously for the unborn baby.
I am hoping that you are right, but I don't want you to hold out false hope as it will hurt that much more should it be a miscarriage.
I am hoping for all the best for you. Please keep us updated.
I think you are definitely doing the right thing by waiting. I also know that a mother's intuition means way more than a doctor's opinion. I also think you are right about waiting a month to see if you do miscarry. By 13 weeks you should have seen some sort of sign of miscarriage. The whole situation is just weird and I hope that you do prove the doctor wrong. Good luck!!
My mom said they did not measure the baby.
Well if my doctor is proven wrong with everything I have experienced through his office and him, including things that were not posted in my story because it was not relevent, could result in a lawsuit for him. That is why I think he is lying. Also the conversation with the nurse. Everytime she tried to get me to believe my baby was dead I out-smarted her. (she said it was consistent with the last- i said it wasnt, the baby grew, the baby moved, the yolk sac was there and was getting ready to become part of the placenta. so she moved on to the no heart beat thing- I said they did not even look for the heartbeat...*they did not focus on it for the ones who believe it is just there and you can see it while photographing the "ovaries", for example*....so she moved on....next it was my hormone levels...i out smarted her on that as well...so she decided to call my mother. she tried really hard to keep me from going to a different doctor. no doctor wants a lawsuit and he knows that what he has to face if my baby is proven to be okay.
I would say this ultrasound lasted about 8 minutes. 3 minutes for the external sonogram and 5 for the internal.
The two different locations I have gone through so far are partners. Doctors talk and doctors help other doctors. Whether you believe it or not.
And just because someone elses doctor did not have difficulty finding a heartbeat means nothing towards my story. It just means your doctor obviously isnt a complete jackass, as mine.
Also, my friends heartbeat WAS through an ULTRASOUND!!! at 8 weeks a doppler can not be used. So sorry it did take 30 minutes through an ultrasound.
I am sure of how far along I am.
And I said my baby DID move!!!
You can not mistake your baby tripling in size, no matter if there was difference in equipment or not, which there wasnt.
Claire, I DID say the baby moved!!!!
Thanks slzerbst! You obviously read my post correctly.
And yes, a lot of doctors are cowards and will not admit to a mistake. It makes them look bad. So to cover themselves up and possibly keep them from a lawsuit, depending on the case, they will do their best to convince you that they are right. I am simply not falling for it.
That's why I know my doctor and his nurse sound and act scared of me going to another doctor.
Today I am 10 weeks and 6 days. 9 days passed since the first day I was told I will miscarry.
I will be exactly 13 weeks when going to see my new doctor.
But if I have not miscarried by then, there is a 99% chance the doctor I had before was stupid!!!
I think a month is long enough to wait for a miscarriage. (it isnt likely for it to wait that long)
Well if my doctor is proven wrong with everything I have experienced through his office and him, including things that were not posted in my story because it was not relevent, could result in a lawsuit for him. That is why I think he is lying. Also the conversation with the nurse. Everytime she tried to get me to believe my baby was dead I out-smarted her. (she said it was consistent with the last- i said it wasnt, the baby grew, the baby moved, the yolk sac was there and was getting ready to become part of the placenta. so she moved on to the no heart beat thing- I said they did not even look for the heartbeat...*they did not focus on it for the ones who believe it is just there and you can see it while photographing the "ovaries", for example*....so she moved on....next it was my hormone levels...i out smarted her on that as well...so she decided to call my mother. she tried really hard to keep me from going to a different doctor. no doctor wants a lawsuit and he knows that what he has to face if my baby is proven to be okay.
I would say this ultrasound lasted about 8 minutes. 3 minutes for the external sonogram and 5 for the internal.
The two different locations I have gone through so far are partners. Doctors talk and doctors help other doctors. Whether you believe it or not.
And just because someone elses doctor did not have difficulty finding a heartbeat means nothing towards my story. It just means your doctor obviously isnt a complete jackass, as mine.
Also, my friends heartbeat WAS through an ULTRASOUND!!! at 8 weeks a doppler can not be used. So sorry it did take 30 minutes through an ultrasound.
I am sure of how far along I am.
And I said my baby DID move!!!
You can not mistake your baby tripling in size, no matter if there was difference in equipment or not, which there wasnt.
Claire, I DID say the baby moved!!!!
Thanks slzerbst! You obviously read my post correctly.
And yes, a lot of doctors are cowards and will not admit to a mistake. It makes them look bad. So to cover themselves up and possibly keep them from a lawsuit, depending on the case, they will do their best to convince you that they are right. I am simply not falling for it.
That's why I know my doctor and his nurse sound and act scared of me going to another doctor.
Today I am 10 weeks and 6 days. 9 days passed since the first day I was told I will miscarry.
I will be exactly 13 weeks when going to see my new doctor.
But if I have not miscarried by then, there is a 99% chance the doctor I had before was stupid!!!
I think a month is long enough to wait for a miscarriage. (it isnt likely for it to wait that long)
For everyone who's saying that it is "oh so easy" to see the hearbeat at 10wks, well it's not! My last ultrasound was at 11wks3ds and I could barly see the heartbeat. However, when my doctor focused in on the heart it was clear. He was also doing an abdominal scan which I have heard is much harder to see the heartbeat. However, my baby was bigger, and it only jumped once when it was on the screan, so not all babies are active either! But I would defintally wait until your next apointment with another doctor to find out for sure.
There is no reason for the first doctor to lie to you, but if they said that there wasn't a heatbeat and then there was one, it would contradict things and they wouldn't want that. Remember doctor's are never wrong!
I'm sorry that you're going through all of this, it's terrible that they only spent 5 minutes doing your ultrasound, it's sad rather. Also I don't like how some doctors make us go see an ultrasound tech instend of a doctor! I wouldn't like someone else telling me things are wrong with my baby, I would like to hear it from my doctor! I'm sorry but it's pretty rediculous that you have to hear it from a tech! And then for your doctor to back that up without doing his own ultrasound and looking for it himself is pretty dumb! Well goodluck and I hope everything goes well for you!
There is no reason for the first doctor to lie to you, but if they said that there wasn't a heatbeat and then there was one, it would contradict things and they wouldn't want that. Remember doctor's are never wrong!
I'm sorry that you're going through all of this, it's terrible that they only spent 5 minutes doing your ultrasound, it's sad rather. Also I don't like how some doctors make us go see an ultrasound tech instend of a doctor! I wouldn't like someone else telling me things are wrong with my baby, I would like to hear it from my doctor! I'm sorry but it's pretty rediculous that you have to hear it from a tech! And then for your doctor to back that up without doing his own ultrasound and looking for it himself is pretty dumb! Well goodluck and I hope everything goes well for you!
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