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PLEASE READ THIS EVERYONE DONT BE OFFENDED THIS IS JUST MY OPINION
I understand people here are tryin to conceive babies and loosin babies which is very sad and i know it hurts but please remember to respect everyone opinion regardless if u like ir or not am not please with some of wat u all said to Jban seems harsh it hurts to me see someone is here to get advice and help and because some of u are against abortions u decline to give advice and tell her to find another forum this makes me mad am against abortion 100% when i was young i had 2 of them one when i was 16 cause my mother made me and another later on in life this change my life forever i wanted to dy i want to kill myself and i took me years to get over i felt everything for my last abortion they didnt put me to sleep this change me i took nearly 7 yrs to go back to normal again. Instead of tellin JPan u will not advice her and find another forum u should tell her wat an abortion is and provide comfort regardless of her decision and opinion i hope i didnt offend anyone but i was touch by wat i read i think i wasnt fair to her because of something we are against
THIS IS A FORUM THAT EXPECTANT MOTHERS ARE EITHER EXPECTING, OR TRYING OR HAVE HAD MIS CARRIGES...WE CANT GIVE ADVICE ON SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO KILL AN INNOCENT LIFE BECAUSE OF HER ACTIONS...WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY OF US TTC!! SORRY
I agree with Jennifer here sexyhot. This is a place where if you just scroll down the last 2 pages, there are a lot of women who have lost their children. We cannot simply think of abortion as an option. If people are not ready to have a child, then they are simply not ready to have sex. Hearing about healthy women being pregnant and then wanting to kill there child for whatever excuse is just inexcusable here. We have worries and difficulties and yes, perhaps we do think its unfair for some to just stop their pregnancy. They do it by choice... we have no choice when it happens to us. Unfourtunetly you have to understand 99% of this forum is pro-life.
Well, I do not know what is going on as I have been with my almost 10 year old having an emergenry surgery (his appendix ruptured) but the first post I see when I get back is this one, WOW. Having said that, my son was almost an abortion, THANK GOD I could not go thru with it. I would have missed out on the single biggest blessing other than my younger daughter. If you got yourself pregnant and do not want the baby, IT IS CERTAINLY not the babys fault. You could opt for adoption, there are a lot of women and families on here that would die just to be a parent one time in their life that may never get the chance to concieve except thru adoption. When you get on a forum like this, you have to get on the right one, you simply cannot decide to get on a forum that is for pregnant women or women who have miscarried and have their hearts broken into millions of pieces talking about abortion and not expect to get that kind of reaction. I know, I am one of the hearts that are breaking into millions of little pieces right now.
First of all, it is a little hard to take you seriously with your screen name "sexyhot dandy". Having had 2 abortions in no way makes me respect you anymore. You obviously understood how babies were made and where they came from before the 1st abortion if not certainly before the 2nd abortion. Taking responsability means using birth control or obstaining from sex if you are not ready to have a child. Period.
This forum is titled "pregnancy 34 and under"...that's why JBann posted here. She is pregnant and under 34. She needed advice and posted her questions. She has her opinions/beliefs just as you all have opinions/beliefs whether or not it is right or wrong. If you have advice to give her then do it. If not, then move on to the next post.
It maybe a forum for pregnancy ,but most people including myself look for the right area before posting a question.and posting under this section,would not have been adviseable,whilst i dont judge anyone,she should have looked where she was sending her post.just as you said we also have opinions and beliefs,and these ladies were posting there opions and have every right to,if someone dont like the replys then they should have considered that before posting here...
man i dont agree with abortion and i agree with the other ladies i have been ttc for about four months thought this was my month but i mean i would treat her mean or anything. but if she can have sex she can have her baby. lets be mature about the situation if your too young or arent finanaically stable then use a condom. i would give anything to be with child. i am financially stable work very hard 12 hours a day, have a very supportive and loving bf who owns a company. we are so frustrated but, that is my opinion i dont advise anyone to have an abortion my sister had one and i was so nad i was pleading with her i told her i would help her raise her baby, then she comes home after the procedure and couldnt hardly walk and i had to help her get up the stiars fix her food, and you know what she told me she said that she actually saw what they did to the baby very graphic it hurt my heart. but once again it is totally up to that women. and closing ladies i love you guys to death. but lets be civil to everyone. its xmas lets be nice. or dont post.
i have been on this site for almost a year. i have noticed that some people show up and talk about abortions to get everyone all upset and have stuff like this start. we have even found people making second screen names just to write fake posts about it. if you dont like what is going on it is really best to not reply and eventually they will get the hint. the more this stuff goes on, the more fake stuff you will get. it is a problem on some of the other forums and i have read stuff here that i think is fake but none of you guys have picked up on it yet. keep your eyes out for odd things and try not to get too bent out of shape on some things or people will just come back and make it get more out of control.
Hi There...I think that you are referring to the comment that I made on the others post.....I was simplay trying to help her out in saying that if this is something that she wants to discuss, in depth, with others, that she may find a more benficial website that is molded to what is going on in her life and what choices she plans on making...I in no way was telling her NOT to visit this forum, simply suggesting that she may find more answers in another. Sorry about the confusion.
Ladies, it doesn't matter if the woman wanted advice on abortion and this is a pregnancy site. You need to speak to them with love and offer solutions, NOT attack her. I work at a pro-life pregnancy center and we have people wanting information all the time on abortion. We never tell them what they can and cannot do. We show them love and if they are willing, we show them options. Some hang up on us and others CHANGE THEIR MINDS and end up keeping their babies or giving them up for adoption.
Kindness is key when you might be dealing with someone considering abortion. Show her love, show her the love you have for her unborn baby, and offer solutions. Never attack or she WILL have an abortion and live to regret it.
Let's not attack one another either. kjbutcher was right when she said it could've been a troll, too. But always treat every poster as though they are being honest JUST IN CASE they really are in trouble.
You can have your beliefs, but please try to address them in a mature, non-judgmental way or don't post at all. If you truly want to help, then you'll do that.
Kindness is key when you might be dealing with someone considering abortion. Show her love, show her the love you have for her unborn baby, and offer solutions. Never attack or she WILL have an abortion and live to regret it.
Let's not attack one another either. kjbutcher was right when she said it could've been a troll, too. But always treat every poster as though they are being honest JUST IN CASE they really are in trouble.
You can have your beliefs, but please try to address them in a mature, non-judgmental way or don't post at all. If you truly want to help, then you'll do that.
am not here to judge anyone we do what we have to do all i wanted to point out is show the girl some love regardless wat her decison is u never know she may change her mind.
am sorry if i sayin i had 2 abortion offended u u dont have to respect me i ask God for forgivness and am sure he did understand y i did what i did as i said before everyone is equal and deserves to the same love and affection.
Many have said she should have looked at a different forum-I only saw one for adoption on medhelp.org. None on abortion. Abortion wasn't even her question!!! Her questions were pregnancy related. I know there are many other places she could have looked but she probably just googled her question and it sent her here. Let's just be supportive not attacking!
The name of this forum is "Pregnancy 34 and Other", not "Trying to conceive." The people on here who are considering abortion are in a difficult situation and are looking for help.
I have a 17 month old son and have never had an abortion. I know what it's like trying to conceive and the disappointment month after month when you can't. At the same time, I am completely pro-choice, because having a baby isn't always the best choice for everyone. There was another post on here recently about a 16 yr old who was raped and got pregnant. People were actually telling her to have the baby....that's absolutely crazy! Shame on the people who were pushing her to keep a child that was the result of violence.
I know most of the people on here are trying to conceive, but that's not only what this forum is for. I think we could all be more considerate and give these women the help and advice they need instead of yelling at them.
Just venting...
I have a 17 month old son and have never had an abortion. I know what it's like trying to conceive and the disappointment month after month when you can't. At the same time, I am completely pro-choice, because having a baby isn't always the best choice for everyone. There was another post on here recently about a 16 yr old who was raped and got pregnant. People were actually telling her to have the baby....that's absolutely crazy! Shame on the people who were pushing her to keep a child that was the result of violence.
I know most of the people on here are trying to conceive, but that's not only what this forum is for. I think we could all be more considerate and give these women the help and advice they need instead of yelling at them.
Just venting...
Your mother can't MAKE you have an abortion. When you abort, you stop a beating heart. When you stop a beating heart, you're committing murder. God allowed us to bring life into this world - not take it away.
I only agree with abortion in TWO cases:
a) The mother's life is in danger
b) The baby's life is in danger or it is know the baby will not live.
To me, it doesn't matter if you were raped or not. I have sympathy for you, and wish you the best of luck, try councelling, or other methods of healing, but methods of healing DO NOT CONTAIN ABORTION!!!! I understand that you may not want to raise a rape baby, but you don't have to. There are millions of families out there who don't care if your baby is a product of rape, THEY WANT TO LOVE THAT CHILD!! They will love that child as if he/she were their own. There is absolutely no excuse for abortion except in the above two categories; ABSOLUTELY NONE.
I have absolutely no respect for anyone who has an abortion. Someone out there wanted that child, wanted to love that child, give that child a home, food to eat, clothes to wear, a family, a LIFE, and you've taken that child's life away. How despeciable can you be? My personal belief is that Abortion should be illegal, anyone who has one should be tried for murder, because that is what abortion is..murder.
The only reason why abortion should be legal if with the above two scenarios, and you must have a doctor's note proving one of those two cases, otherwise, go to jail and think about the life you've just taken away, either because of your stupidity, or your greed.
a) The mother's life is in danger
b) The baby's life is in danger or it is know the baby will not live.
To me, it doesn't matter if you were raped or not. I have sympathy for you, and wish you the best of luck, try councelling, or other methods of healing, but methods of healing DO NOT CONTAIN ABORTION!!!! I understand that you may not want to raise a rape baby, but you don't have to. There are millions of families out there who don't care if your baby is a product of rape, THEY WANT TO LOVE THAT CHILD!! They will love that child as if he/she were their own. There is absolutely no excuse for abortion except in the above two categories; ABSOLUTELY NONE.
I have absolutely no respect for anyone who has an abortion. Someone out there wanted that child, wanted to love that child, give that child a home, food to eat, clothes to wear, a family, a LIFE, and you've taken that child's life away. How despeciable can you be? My personal belief is that Abortion should be illegal, anyone who has one should be tried for murder, because that is what abortion is..murder.
The only reason why abortion should be legal if with the above two scenarios, and you must have a doctor's note proving one of those two cases, otherwise, go to jail and think about the life you've just taken away, either because of your stupidity, or your greed.
Also, think about the life you've taken from your selfishness. No wonder there are so many families waiting for children, because selfish and stupid mothers (and fathers) make the wrong decision, and kill an innocent child.
Instead of attacking me and others about abortion u should go back and read JPann post she was askin someone to explain her results to her because she didnt unerstand them she then said she was considering an abortion but some of the other just heard the word abortion and went crazy am sorry for ur loss but i dont understand wat its like to be rape hurt and abuse so dont start judging. anyway i had enough of this discussion its not worth it me tryin to explain my actions i ask the Lord to forgive me.
am from the caribbean and over there its diferent than here in America and i grew with morals and values my mother said i was to young an she took to me get it down so i could further my life and continue my education in a way am glad she did cause. my mother took ill and i had to raise my sister from when she was 2 1/2 mths to 2 or 3 years old u see God works in mysterious ways he had a plan for me. me raising my sister encourage me to get back the babies i hurt and that is wat i did i was givin a second chance to get things right
Shame on us for telling a girl to not kill her child? SHE made the choice to keep her child before any of us said a word. The thing is, you can be pro-choice all you want, but you want it to be YOUR choice and your preference??? There's a lot of politics on abortion that many people are not aware of... there is a strong political agenda.
As far as becoming pregnant under violence, that is not the girl's or the baby's choice. I once read a pamphlet that a scientist and doctor wrote. She said her mom tried to abort her THREE times and each time failed. She said if she had been aborted she wouldn't be here today. She is trying to FIND A CURE FOR CANCER.
The thing is, when you abort a baby, you don't know WHO you are killing. And I can tell you're pro-choice because you've never had an abortion because if you had one, you would understand better sexy-hot-dandy's position. Go to www.hopeafterabortion.com and READ stories from REAL women who've had abortions and live a life of regret 20 years later.
Sometimes God does things we cannot comprehend, that doesn't make sense to us. How dare we take a life? I commend her for wanting to keep her baby and raise it herself, in SPITE OF the circumstances.
You have every right to believe what you want, but make sure you have more than just your opinion. Get the facts straight as well.
As far as becoming pregnant under violence, that is not the girl's or the baby's choice. I once read a pamphlet that a scientist and doctor wrote. She said her mom tried to abort her THREE times and each time failed. She said if she had been aborted she wouldn't be here today. She is trying to FIND A CURE FOR CANCER.
The thing is, when you abort a baby, you don't know WHO you are killing. And I can tell you're pro-choice because you've never had an abortion because if you had one, you would understand better sexy-hot-dandy's position. Go to www.hopeafterabortion.com and READ stories from REAL women who've had abortions and live a life of regret 20 years later.
Sometimes God does things we cannot comprehend, that doesn't make sense to us. How dare we take a life? I commend her for wanting to keep her baby and raise it herself, in SPITE OF the circumstances.
You have every right to believe what you want, but make sure you have more than just your opinion. Get the facts straight as well.
If you read this list of questions again you will clearly see she is asking for advise on abortion. Question 4 "what are the options of abortion do I have?". All the other questions with the exception of #1 which she wants info. on the ovary, are all in regards to abortion and how it will affect her! Not once does she mention or question what it will do to the life she has created. Obviously, she knows it will end the life. She posted on this forum and asked for our advise. We are giving it, even if it isn't the answer she is looking for. We didn't go to her, she came to us for advise.
Here is what she posted:I cannot keep the baby since i am too young for it. I just want some opinion on 1. what does the Dispropotionate ovaries imply? 2. Can it cause issues during abortion? 3. How old is my baby? Does Gestational sack age tells me the time it was fertilized? 4. What are the options of abortions do i have? Which one is the safest? Is there any risk to my life or health? 5. What are the chances of me no fertilizing again later in my life? If the doctor says i might have issues with fertilizing again, what are the ways i can reduce such a risk? 6. The doctor said that they dint find any heart beat as yet, How much time do i have? Thanks. I am really scared. Please help.
Here is what she posted:I cannot keep the baby since i am too young for it. I just want some opinion on 1. what does the Dispropotionate ovaries imply? 2. Can it cause issues during abortion? 3. How old is my baby? Does Gestational sack age tells me the time it was fertilized? 4. What are the options of abortions do i have? Which one is the safest? Is there any risk to my life or health? 5. What are the chances of me no fertilizing again later in my life? If the doctor says i might have issues with fertilizing again, what are the ways i can reduce such a risk? 6. The doctor said that they dint find any heart beat as yet, How much time do i have? Thanks. I am really scared. Please help.
I'm not arguing anymore. We both have opinions, let's leave it at that. You are religious, and I am not.
I don't need to check out websites on abortions. I know all about it and written papers on the subject while in college. I've watched the videos of the procedure and know all about it. Yes, it's gross and upsetting, but in the end, it's still legal.
So "shame on you" might have been a little harsh, but don't make the girl feel guilty for whatever decision she makes. As for lots of families waiting for children, where exactly are they looking? There are millions of children that need homes. Are they just looking in the US? I work at an Elementary school and have several children there in the foster system. I don't see anyone fighting to adopt them. They didn't choose their life of being passed around, someone else chose it and now they have to live it. They've seen more in their 5 to 10 years than I've seen in my entire life.
I don't need to check out websites on abortions. I know all about it and written papers on the subject while in college. I've watched the videos of the procedure and know all about it. Yes, it's gross and upsetting, but in the end, it's still legal.
So "shame on you" might have been a little harsh, but don't make the girl feel guilty for whatever decision she makes. As for lots of families waiting for children, where exactly are they looking? There are millions of children that need homes. Are they just looking in the US? I work at an Elementary school and have several children there in the foster system. I don't see anyone fighting to adopt them. They didn't choose their life of being passed around, someone else chose it and now they have to live it. They've seen more in their 5 to 10 years than I've seen in my entire life.
I agree on some point but as far as someone posting that they want to have an abortion is wrong I mean I could see if she was raped or forced into having a baby cause someone couldn't have one and someone forced her into getting pregnant just so she could give the child up even though she went through 9 months with the child in her body but to kill an innocent child for all the wrong reasons is murder in my eye's and for you to ask people to give someone like her comfort for wanting to kill an innocent child is wrong.... If she really don't want that child there is other routes to go by instead of killing something so innocent and not give it a chance in life that has been started...
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