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Intuition - learned or unexplained sixth sense phenomenon?
BB - Thanks for the book suggestion - I'll put it on my list! I love reading:) Well, if it's true that intuition is learned, how do you explain a child's intuition? They wouldn't have had the time and experience to build the knowledge base you are talking about. I believe that there are some things we cannot explain.
She started this whole thing. Nobody cares what she does or doesn't believe. That's not the problem. She was attacking people in a very childish way when people were just trying to nicely explain their views which she asked them to do. She asked them to answer her, and they did, nicely. She's very, very angry. Sort of like a wildcat. I still think she needs more hugs.
Wow.. go to work for a day and come back to this... you know, let me just say this. I am a Christian, and I am proud of my beliefs. However, I have a large variety of friends with different religions. I don't feel a need to change any of them. As a Christian, I think it is my duty to explain my beliefs if I am asked about them, but this is very different persective than pushing my ideas on someone else. That said, I try my best not to judge others on their beliefs. I think you can learn a lot from everyone. This is why I started this post.
Well, as far as children are concerned, here is an example, children know when someone is not a good person/has bad intentions towards them. They know but they are too vulnerable to get away. I went to a seminar taught by an ex FBI agent who investigated sexual predators, and he discussed teaching children to trust their gut. It's ok to trust that feeling in the pit of their stomach that something is not right. This is what he wanted us to instill in the children.
BB: I have read many studies done on resiliency, and let me tell you that it is resiliency, and a person's belief that things will get better that has helped people restore their lives. There have been countless studies done on populations that were affected by natural disasters, wars, and disease that show a positive correlation between resiliency and survival. In addition, one of my favorite books was written by a Holocaust survivor, a psychiatrist who lost his entire family in the concentration camps and his faith and belief that life had meaning is what kept him going and defining the theory of Logotherapy - a talk therapy. The book is called, "Man's Search for Meaning" by Victor Frankl. It's an excellent book written by a psychiatrist who did not preach about his religion, and his resiliency shines throughout the pages.
I don't get offended by someone believing my faith is magical thinking, and I don't feel a need to prove it to you beyond what I have said. I will, however, say that not all Christians are so strict in their beliefs that they judge others; just because I am Christian does not mean I want to judge homosexuals, stand outside abortion clinics, or preach revelations to everyone who walks near me. Oh, and I am on bc, so I don't see with that as wrong either. I am guessing you have been around some Christians who have forced their beliefs on you, and if that's happened I am sorry because I don't believe Christianity needs to be shoved down anyone's throat.
Finally, I would like to say to everyone. I wish there was a way to have lively debate without the insulting language, or making anyone feel stupid for having an opinion. I think its ok to have strong opinion, but what is not ok is to make judgement calls about another person's intelligence, medical diagnosis, or whatever else one can think of in order to make themselves appear a more knowledgable and intellectually superior human being. I think there is a lot of intelligence here on this forum, and I greatly enjoy reading all of your posts. On other words, can't we all just get along??? Maybe this is magical thinking... hahaha
PS. I am getting tired so please ignore my mispellings because it's time for the contacts to come out:)
Well, as far as children are concerned, here is an example, children know when someone is not a good person/has bad intentions towards them. They know but they are too vulnerable to get away. I went to a seminar taught by an ex FBI agent who investigated sexual predators, and he discussed teaching children to trust their gut. It's ok to trust that feeling in the pit of their stomach that something is not right. This is what he wanted us to instill in the children.
BB: I have read many studies done on resiliency, and let me tell you that it is resiliency, and a person's belief that things will get better that has helped people restore their lives. There have been countless studies done on populations that were affected by natural disasters, wars, and disease that show a positive correlation between resiliency and survival. In addition, one of my favorite books was written by a Holocaust survivor, a psychiatrist who lost his entire family in the concentration camps and his faith and belief that life had meaning is what kept him going and defining the theory of Logotherapy - a talk therapy. The book is called, "Man's Search for Meaning" by Victor Frankl. It's an excellent book written by a psychiatrist who did not preach about his religion, and his resiliency shines throughout the pages.
I don't get offended by someone believing my faith is magical thinking, and I don't feel a need to prove it to you beyond what I have said. I will, however, say that not all Christians are so strict in their beliefs that they judge others; just because I am Christian does not mean I want to judge homosexuals, stand outside abortion clinics, or preach revelations to everyone who walks near me. Oh, and I am on bc, so I don't see with that as wrong either. I am guessing you have been around some Christians who have forced their beliefs on you, and if that's happened I am sorry because I don't believe Christianity needs to be shoved down anyone's throat.
Finally, I would like to say to everyone. I wish there was a way to have lively debate without the insulting language, or making anyone feel stupid for having an opinion. I think its ok to have strong opinion, but what is not ok is to make judgement calls about another person's intelligence, medical diagnosis, or whatever else one can think of in order to make themselves appear a more knowledgable and intellectually superior human being. I think there is a lot of intelligence here on this forum, and I greatly enjoy reading all of your posts. On other words, can't we all just get along??? Maybe this is magical thinking... hahaha
PS. I am getting tired so please ignore my mispellings because it's time for the contacts to come out:)
i just keep my beliefs to myself after getting quite the namecalling bashing i recieved lol. when things have happened to you and you know only something larger than yourself could be the reason, how can you not believe that something out there is of greater force than yourself? ive experienced many things over the years, and i know i had help. she wont return, she will give it a few days like always when called out, then answer another post. i dont see how making fun and to belittle someone makes you feel better, but it seems to. i agree with whoever said she seems to like to say how liberal she is, but she is extemely dominating and one sided with all points of view. i was under the impression that wasnt a lefty lol.
Oh no, I didn't mean any one person. I just was afraid this would start to get out of hand. I probably shouldn't have issued that challange to Barn Babe or at least started a new post, shouldn't I have? I just wanted to see how willing she'd be to see others' viewpoints. I'm starting to see that she won't listen to anything that doesn't agree with her. It's funny, I don't usually tell others my beliefs unless I see that they have the same beliefs as me. It's just when I see Barn Babe constantly bashing Christians and mocking God, etc., it gets to me. It's very offensive. And I've seen a pattern of it over and over in other posts. It gets old.
What thread are you talking about? Was this a branch off another thread?
I guess you're right! This is a sex forum! LOL, How in the world did we get so off topic? I think I can tell we're all ladies! We like to talk! Blessings!
What thread are you talking about? Was this a branch off another thread?
I guess you're right! This is a sex forum! LOL, How in the world did we get so off topic? I think I can tell we're all ladies! We like to talk! Blessings!
i think if we could all just respect each others difference in opinion, i mean barn babe be ok with those that pray to a god, and christians be ok with her athiest beliefs, it would work out better. she does like to taunt some of us, ive experienced it myself. maybe we could end our war here on religion. this is a sex forum after all lol. just my little ol opinion.
I hope you're not talking about me, since I've not insulted barn babe, at least not to close to the degree that she has insulted me. I was just agreeing with the others that she's bothersome, and I said I don't care to hear from her hateful mouth anymore (the truth). She called me names and basically said I was stupid. I believe in turning the other cheek, but I also *will* stand up for myself when I believe I'm being treated unfairly. All I wanted to do from the beginning was keep my thread on topic - I asked NICELY, could we not turn this into a debate? At least koukla had the courtesy to start a new thread. Then, barn babe had the nerve to belittle my situation, which was the only reason why the thread was started in the first place - the dreams discussion and this debate would have never happened without it.
This is a board about interpersonal relationships, not a science vs. religion board. I maintain that barn babe is a troll, looking for any excuse to throw out her beliefs, i.e. my statement: "I had a dream last night," brings on: "Dreams are meaningless! It's religious propaganda again, blah, blah, blah..." It seems to me that barn babe had a very bad experience with religion when she was younger, and has to take it out on someone. Well, I know of a board for Catholics that she could preach to - they would LOVE to get ahold of her. The fact is, her rantings don't belong on a health board, and when the insults come out, it bothers me even more because the conversations don't have any relavence here in the first place. She just tries to hijack threads - for ex., a woman was talking about her husband's drug problem/affair, and someone puts in that she should say a prayer. Barn babe goes into a rant about religion not being able to save marriages. It should be stopped; she should be stopped. I for one am not a regular here, but to those that are, I hope you'll report her when she gets out of line again. People come here to discuss delicate issues, and don't deserve to be subjected to that. I don't hold any ill will toward the person; I can see that she has been hurt, and I hope that she can find peace. God bless you all! :)
This is a board about interpersonal relationships, not a science vs. religion board. I maintain that barn babe is a troll, looking for any excuse to throw out her beliefs, i.e. my statement: "I had a dream last night," brings on: "Dreams are meaningless! It's religious propaganda again, blah, blah, blah..." It seems to me that barn babe had a very bad experience with religion when she was younger, and has to take it out on someone. Well, I know of a board for Catholics that she could preach to - they would LOVE to get ahold of her. The fact is, her rantings don't belong on a health board, and when the insults come out, it bothers me even more because the conversations don't have any relavence here in the first place. She just tries to hijack threads - for ex., a woman was talking about her husband's drug problem/affair, and someone puts in that she should say a prayer. Barn babe goes into a rant about religion not being able to save marriages. It should be stopped; she should be stopped. I for one am not a regular here, but to those that are, I hope you'll report her when she gets out of line again. People come here to discuss delicate issues, and don't deserve to be subjected to that. I don't hold any ill will toward the person; I can see that she has been hurt, and I hope that she can find peace. God bless you all! :)
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