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Chlamydia
First off I am back and Antiejessi has been very helpful and educational. I have an appointment in 2 weeks to get into some counseling for me anxiety. ( never have suffered from anxiety so its all new to me ). I am no longer worried about Chlamydia from the GI Tract as that seems to not be very plausible over the years. However, I am concerned/want clarification on something else. Other than being completely monogamous with my wife over the years, there was one time at a bachelor party, where instances happened and i am curious about my level of risk? At the bachelor party a stripper briefly give me a handjob spitting saliva on my penis and licked the head of my penis for not more than 2 or 3 seconds. I made her stop and that was the end of that. I wasnt really worried at the time and never developed any symptoms ( although i wasn't looking for them either really ) the handjob/ brief lick took place about 3.5 years ago. Is there anyway i could have gotten Chlamydia from that? im worried about Chlamydia bc of the asymptomatic nature. My wife did test during a pregnancy 19months after the HJ and was negative. I tested negative about 9 months ago. (I was experiencing some Burning on urination (never any discharge) it only lasted a few days BUT i wasnt able to test for a few days after the urination burning had stopped so I fear if my test is accurate since symptoms went away? i was thinking it could have cleared before i tested a few days later ). DR Handsfield and Dr hook state Chlamydia clears on its own always.
so my questions are as follows:
1) what is the likleyhood of us ping pong the infection over the last 4 or so years not realizing it. and when each of us tested negative we didint have it but the other one did? since we didnt test at the same time ( about a year apart ) i did have symtoms for a few days of burning on Urination ( which is a sign ) can couple ping pong then clear etc of years unnoticed? or is this something that is not plausible
2) is chlamydia transmitted through saliva or lick to the penis? how is it transmitted orally? does penis have to be a the back of the throat for transmission? if so, then how can you get oral stds from oral ex with a vagina if saliva doesnt play a roll? or is oral sex with a vagina more or less a theory and doesnt happen in realy world
3) how can I be sure my test was accurate since I waited a few days after Burning stopped to go get tested since the symptoms cleared in a few days does that make it less likely to be infection? for example would the atleast progress for some time and or worsen? instead of clearing in just a few days ( i increased my water intake those few days and then it just went away)
4) about 5 months ago she had a pap and then a colposcopy ( bc of the hpv infection the just wanted to make sure all is well ) Dr told her " despite the hpv infection your cervix looks healthy" my questions is if she had Chlamydia can a normal pap or the colposcopy give clues to a chlamydia infection. I know obviously NAAT test is the only definitive answer BUT would a normal pelvic exam and colposcopy help go towards evidence that an infection is not present?
My biggest concern is that we didnt test at the same time when we tested so could we have cleared the infection ourselves when we tested but the other had it and then we ping pong it back? we have unprotected sex 3 to 4 times a week so even though chlamydia can be asymptomatic. with all the unprotected sex wouldnt i eventually more than likely get symptoms? I see that Dr Hook says with 4 to 5 times of unprotected sex is likely to result infection with the bacterial stds ( we are having that much sex a week )
I am addressing my anxiety will all this just cant get in for a few weeks. but hearing from AunitJessi replies last time really helped. being educated about why something is not plausible helps calm my fears. i hope to hear your thoughts on the above scenario and really i have thought about them all and I don't there is any other senerios after this one haha
sorry for being back i am just trying to educate myself.
so my questions are as follows:
1) what is the likleyhood of us ping pong the infection over the last 4 or so years not realizing it. and when each of us tested negative we didint have it but the other one did? since we didnt test at the same time ( about a year apart ) i did have symtoms for a few days of burning on Urination ( which is a sign ) can couple ping pong then clear etc of years unnoticed? or is this something that is not plausible
2) is chlamydia transmitted through saliva or lick to the penis? how is it transmitted orally? does penis have to be a the back of the throat for transmission? if so, then how can you get oral stds from oral ex with a vagina if saliva doesnt play a roll? or is oral sex with a vagina more or less a theory and doesnt happen in realy world
3) how can I be sure my test was accurate since I waited a few days after Burning stopped to go get tested since the symptoms cleared in a few days does that make it less likely to be infection? for example would the atleast progress for some time and or worsen? instead of clearing in just a few days ( i increased my water intake those few days and then it just went away)
4) about 5 months ago she had a pap and then a colposcopy ( bc of the hpv infection the just wanted to make sure all is well ) Dr told her " despite the hpv infection your cervix looks healthy" my questions is if she had Chlamydia can a normal pap or the colposcopy give clues to a chlamydia infection. I know obviously NAAT test is the only definitive answer BUT would a normal pelvic exam and colposcopy help go towards evidence that an infection is not present?
My biggest concern is that we didnt test at the same time when we tested so could we have cleared the infection ourselves when we tested but the other had it and then we ping pong it back? we have unprotected sex 3 to 4 times a week so even though chlamydia can be asymptomatic. with all the unprotected sex wouldnt i eventually more than likely get symptoms? I see that Dr Hook says with 4 to 5 times of unprotected sex is likely to result infection with the bacterial stds ( we are having that much sex a week )
I am addressing my anxiety will all this just cant get in for a few weeks. but hearing from AunitJessi replies last time really helped. being educated about why something is not plausible helps calm my fears. i hope to hear your thoughts on the above scenario and really i have thought about them all and I don't there is any other senerios after this one haha
sorry for being back i am just trying to educate myself.
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Your wife was likely tested for chlamydia a couple of times during pregnancy. If your child was born with chlamydia, it would have been noticeable.
Your tests are conclusive. If you have chlamydia, you test positive whether or not you have symptoms.
You had no risk from the handjob, even if spit was used as lube.
1) what is the likleyhood of us ping pong the infection over the last 4 or so years not realizing it. and when each of us tested negative we didint have it but the other one did? since we didnt test at the same time ( about a year apart ) i did have symtoms for a few days of burning on Urination ( which is a sign ) can couple ping pong then clear etc of years unnoticed? or is this something that is not plausible
Absolutely zero. You've both been tested and she had a baby (I'm presuming, since she was pregnant).
2) is chlamydia transmitted through saliva or lick to the penis? how is it transmitted orally? does penis have to be a the back of the throat for transmission? if so, then how can you get oral stds from oral ex with a vagina if saliva doesnt play a roll? or is oral sex with a vagina more or less a theory and doesnt happen in realy world
Chlamydia from oral sex usually happens when it resides in the throat. This happens mostly when giving oral sex to a penis. It is rare to get this from giving oral sex to a vagina, and not that common from giving it to a penis, for that matter.
Oral sex on a vagina is safer than oral on a penis because nothing enters the throat like a penis does.
3) how can I be sure my test was accurate since I waited a few days after Burning stopped to go get tested since the symptoms cleared in a few days does that make it less likely to be infection? for example would the atleast progress for some time and or worsen? instead of clearing in just a few days ( i increased my water intake those few days and then it just went away)
If you had waited months, you might have reason to worry, but not days. The test would have still picked up remaining dead bacteria.
4) about 5 months ago she had a pap and then a colposcopy ( bc of the hpv infection the just wanted to make sure all is well ) Dr told her " despite the hpv infection your cervix looks healthy" my questions is if she had Chlamydia can a normal pap or the colposcopy give clues to a chlamydia infection. I know obviously NAAT test is the only definitive answer BUT would a normal pelvic exam and colposcopy help go towards evidence that an infection is not present?
No, these can't pick up chlamydia, but quite often, they run a chlamydia test at the same time as a pap. It just depends on the doctor and their choice.
I'm very glad to hear that you have an appt with a therapist. You do not have chlamydia, so try to stay off the internet googling this stuff in the meantime. If you feel the need to do so, distract yourself.
Take care.
Your tests are conclusive. If you have chlamydia, you test positive whether or not you have symptoms.
You had no risk from the handjob, even if spit was used as lube.
1) what is the likleyhood of us ping pong the infection over the last 4 or so years not realizing it. and when each of us tested negative we didint have it but the other one did? since we didnt test at the same time ( about a year apart ) i did have symtoms for a few days of burning on Urination ( which is a sign ) can couple ping pong then clear etc of years unnoticed? or is this something that is not plausible
Absolutely zero. You've both been tested and she had a baby (I'm presuming, since she was pregnant).
2) is chlamydia transmitted through saliva or lick to the penis? how is it transmitted orally? does penis have to be a the back of the throat for transmission? if so, then how can you get oral stds from oral ex with a vagina if saliva doesnt play a roll? or is oral sex with a vagina more or less a theory and doesnt happen in realy world
Chlamydia from oral sex usually happens when it resides in the throat. This happens mostly when giving oral sex to a penis. It is rare to get this from giving oral sex to a vagina, and not that common from giving it to a penis, for that matter.
Oral sex on a vagina is safer than oral on a penis because nothing enters the throat like a penis does.
3) how can I be sure my test was accurate since I waited a few days after Burning stopped to go get tested since the symptoms cleared in a few days does that make it less likely to be infection? for example would the atleast progress for some time and or worsen? instead of clearing in just a few days ( i increased my water intake those few days and then it just went away)
If you had waited months, you might have reason to worry, but not days. The test would have still picked up remaining dead bacteria.
4) about 5 months ago she had a pap and then a colposcopy ( bc of the hpv infection the just wanted to make sure all is well ) Dr told her " despite the hpv infection your cervix looks healthy" my questions is if she had Chlamydia can a normal pap or the colposcopy give clues to a chlamydia infection. I know obviously NAAT test is the only definitive answer BUT would a normal pelvic exam and colposcopy help go towards evidence that an infection is not present?
No, these can't pick up chlamydia, but quite often, they run a chlamydia test at the same time as a pap. It just depends on the doctor and their choice.
I'm very glad to hear that you have an appt with a therapist. You do not have chlamydia, so try to stay off the internet googling this stuff in the meantime. If you feel the need to do so, distract yourself.
Take care.
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thank you and I am sorry I am letting my Anxiety get the best of me on this. can I ask a few things to just to clarify?
on question 3 what do you mean by the test would pick up dead bacteria?
she also licked my penis for a few seconds would that change the risk from the handjob? wouldnt that make it oral sex now?
I am having trouble understanding why a couple couldnt ping pong an infection that is asymptomatic and self clearing? i see a lot of ppl on the ASHA blog fearing the same thing? can you elaborate on why this wouldn't be possible? i think many users would get benefit from understanding that better. i guess this is why its important for couples to be std tested at the same time.
would you say it is fair to say that if a couple is in a true 2 to 3 year relationship ( no other partners ) and one tested negative the Std then the couple can be safely reassured to be free of the std OR would it be recommended for the other partner to test to be sure ( i understand HIV and HERPES are different in that situation but i am referring to bacterial stds )
also how common is oral chlamydia? what is "rare"? seems like 10yrs ago ever said doesnt happen now they say it can but rare? how many cases a year are there of oral transmission from throat to penis?
what is the transmission rate for it from throat to penis? I see genital seems to be about 25% to 50% is oral the same? or like 10%?
again, I hope I am not annoying but some of this I would just like to have the Knowledge. Having kids of my own one day being knowledgeable about these things can help me educate them about stds when the time comes.
thanks again, this is the only therapy i have until i go see someone. it does calm me down a lot hearing answers from someone knowledgeable about the situation
on question 3 what do you mean by the test would pick up dead bacteria?
she also licked my penis for a few seconds would that change the risk from the handjob? wouldnt that make it oral sex now?
I am having trouble understanding why a couple couldnt ping pong an infection that is asymptomatic and self clearing? i see a lot of ppl on the ASHA blog fearing the same thing? can you elaborate on why this wouldn't be possible? i think many users would get benefit from understanding that better. i guess this is why its important for couples to be std tested at the same time.
would you say it is fair to say that if a couple is in a true 2 to 3 year relationship ( no other partners ) and one tested negative the Std then the couple can be safely reassured to be free of the std OR would it be recommended for the other partner to test to be sure ( i understand HIV and HERPES are different in that situation but i am referring to bacterial stds )
also how common is oral chlamydia? what is "rare"? seems like 10yrs ago ever said doesnt happen now they say it can but rare? how many cases a year are there of oral transmission from throat to penis?
what is the transmission rate for it from throat to penis? I see genital seems to be about 25% to 50% is oral the same? or like 10%?
again, I hope I am not annoying but some of this I would just like to have the Knowledge. Having kids of my own one day being knowledgeable about these things can help me educate them about stds when the time comes.
thanks again, this is the only therapy i have until i go see someone. it does calm me down a lot hearing answers from someone knowledgeable about the situation
"on question 3 what do you mean by the test would pick up dead bacteria?"
The tests are very sensitive. They can detect bacteria that isn't alive. This is why when someone goes for a test of cure, they are advised to wait for 3 weeks after taking the medication.
"she also licked my penis for a few seconds would that change the risk from the handjob? wouldnt that make it oral sex now?"
I don't know about technical definitions of oral sex, but for STI purposes, a quick lick doesn't transmit anything, and remember that I mentioned the throat. Your penis didn't enter her throat.
You can't ping pong an infection you've both tested negative for. You don't have it.
We say oral chlamydia is rare now because we have more sensitive tests now and now know it can happen, but doesn't happen often. It's considered rare. I don't know how often it does, but I do know that you didn't get it because you tested negative.
You tested negative. Negative. You don't have it. Anything else I say is feeding your anxiety, and that isn't a good coping skill.
We did this with herpes, and you didn't have that, and you don't have chlamydia. You just don't. You tested negative for everything.
The tests are very sensitive. They can detect bacteria that isn't alive. This is why when someone goes for a test of cure, they are advised to wait for 3 weeks after taking the medication.
"she also licked my penis for a few seconds would that change the risk from the handjob? wouldnt that make it oral sex now?"
I don't know about technical definitions of oral sex, but for STI purposes, a quick lick doesn't transmit anything, and remember that I mentioned the throat. Your penis didn't enter her throat.
You can't ping pong an infection you've both tested negative for. You don't have it.
We say oral chlamydia is rare now because we have more sensitive tests now and now know it can happen, but doesn't happen often. It's considered rare. I don't know how often it does, but I do know that you didn't get it because you tested negative.
You tested negative. Negative. You don't have it. Anything else I say is feeding your anxiety, and that isn't a good coping skill.
We did this with herpes, and you didn't have that, and you don't have chlamydia. You just don't. You tested negative for everything.
I know I just see so many post from Dr handsfield stating that is it not Uncommon at all for a couple to have one person test negative and the other be positive. so the fact that we didnt test at the same time is what has me concerned....... IF we both tested negative together than there is def nothing to pass. If its common to see couples where one is positive and other is negative then that is where I am coming up with the basis of testing missing the infection.
i guess at some point being over 3 years ago odds are one of us would have some serious symptoms.
i guess at this point it is what it is and If somthing ever comes of it I will just take it from there.
i guess at some point being over 3 years ago odds are one of us would have some serious symptoms.
i guess at this point it is what it is and If somthing ever comes of it I will just take it from there.
Yes, some couples to have discordant test results. You don't. You both tested negative.
You've also had no recent risk, and you've been with your wife for 20 years.
We've addressed all of this before.
We have an anxiety forum that may help you. It won't assess your risk or answer STI questions, but you can get help for anxiety, which is really the root of the problem here - https://www.medhelp.org/forums/show/71
You've also had no recent risk, and you've been with your wife for 20 years.
We've addressed all of this before.
We have an anxiety forum that may help you. It won't assess your risk or answer STI questions, but you can get help for anxiety, which is really the root of the problem here - https://www.medhelp.org/forums/show/71
I agree I will check it out.
so even though we didnt test at the same time that has no basis of making our test results non-conclusive?
I will check out the anxiety forum. thank you for all your help
so even though we didnt test at the same time that has no basis of making our test results non-conclusive?
I will check out the anxiety forum. thank you for all your help
You didn't have a risk. That makes your tests conclusive.
You haven't been harboring this for 20 years, or 3 years, or whatever.
Licking your penis isn't a risk. Using spit for a handjob isn't a risk. It just isn't. That's what makes your tests conclusive.
You are getting into details again and again, and missing that you had no risk. None.
You haven't been harboring this for 20 years, or 3 years, or whatever.
Licking your penis isn't a risk. Using spit for a handjob isn't a risk. It just isn't. That's what makes your tests conclusive.
You are getting into details again and again, and missing that you had no risk. None.
I know I guess the anxiety just keeps saying the "what if" or "yeah but" bc i read somthing like Zero risk or close to it...... i focus on the close to it lol
im sorry for the continued anxiety driven post. i will do my best to move on and address my anxiety. I really do appreciate all you have done. it goes a really long way in calming me down.
im sorry for the continued anxiety driven post. i will do my best to move on and address my anxiety. I really do appreciate all you have done. it goes a really long way in calming me down.
Focusing on the "close to it" is anxiety, and the "yeah but" and "what if" are definitely anxiety.
The anxiety forum can help you with coping skills - actual coping skills, rather than reading things over and over.
Take care.
The anxiety forum can help you with coping skills - actual coping skills, rather than reading things over and over.
Take care.
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