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Concerning HPV & HSV II
*Sexual History
I first had sex when I was 21 years old. We were both virgins and were in a monogamous relationship for 7 years. We broke up after 7 years, and I started talking to another guy. I asked this guy many questions including if he had any STD's. He said he HAD condyloma (genital warts). Well, in my mind I was thinking, 'How can you "HAD" condyloma?' I asked him how did you get rid of it and he told me that they froze it off. At any rate, I was pretty ignorant about viral STD's and continued to be interested in him. He told me he was diagnosed with Condyloma in 2005 and it was 2009 when we started talking. I had also heard that he had genital herpes from a person he knew very well.
One day we met up with each other and things got pretty heated. He had his boxers on and only exposed his penis. I saw and felt no visible bumps, lesions, or sores. We had close body contact (in other words, touching each other), but I had on some thin pants (for it was summer time and it was hot) and some thong underwear. With this being said we grinded (rubbed) on each other. I never took off my pants or underwear. In fact, I had on all of my clothes. We did touch each others genitals (him only touching the clit part of my genitals and nothing else). Nothing further happened (no oral sex, vaginal sex, or anal sex).
Well, 3 to 5 days later (can't remember specifically because it has been since 2009 since the incident) I started experiencing sensations I have NEVER experienced before. Itching, burning, and tingling all over the vulva (including the anus). I was pretty upset. There I was at 26 years old and never in my life have I had any vaginal problems until 3 days after I had contact with someone who I knowingly "had" an STD. I didn't know what was going on. I went to a health departmet soon after and got tested for all STD's and all of them came back negative. My problem was not fixed and I scheduled an appointment with my OBGYN a couple of months after going to the health department & getting tested. My OBGYN diagnosed me with Bacterial vaginosis (I had all the symptoms of BV WITHOUT any odor). I cried in relief knowing that it was only BV. I was treated for this bacterial infection.
12 months later BV re-occured and was treated once again. Then, 6 or 7 months later (which is now), I'm now being treated for my third BV occurence (I went to the OBGYN this past Thursday). She also found two small Nabothian cysts on my cervix near the cervical OS.
I met another guy in 2009 and we have been sexually active for two years (monogamous relationship. Of course, I asked him questions concerning STD's before any intercourse had occured) and nothing has showed up (as in bumps, lesions, sores). I haven't told him about the incident because when I was treated the first time, my nurse practicioner told me that I should not be worried about it b/c it is usually transmitted via sexual intercourse. She also told me that HSV & HIV testing was not necessary as well (because I was considering getting both of the tests).
My nurse practitioner told me that she thinks that I should just let it go (my thoughts and anxiety about maybe having a viral STD). My mind battles the fact that I had a perfectly normal vagina before I had contact with this guy and mysteriously got BV a couple days after contact without ever having sex.
In conclusion, I still have a fear that the virus MAY have been transmitted to me. Everytime I get a BV diagnosis, I suddenly become a hypercondriac and I start self-diagnosing myself....not good at all because it only escalates my anxiety! Help put my mind at ease.
*QUESTIONS:
1) I can't help but think that ever since I had close contact with that guy, why am I having so many vaginal problems, WHY!? Could it be that I have somehow gotten the virus (or who knows what other things he could have had...maybe even HSV) from this incident?
2) Could the virus have gotten transmitted to me through my clothing if I wore my clothing overnight?
3) Could hand to genital & genital to hand contact have transmitted the virus (in other words, if he touched his genitals and then proceeded to touch mine)?
4) Is BV commonly a symptom of venereal warts?
5) Does HPV & HSV have similar modes of transmission?
6) Based on the incident, what were my chances of getting the virus from this guy that had a previous diagnosis of condyloma?
P.S. Any other input you might want to add to help put my mind at ease??
I first had sex when I was 21 years old. We were both virgins and were in a monogamous relationship for 7 years. We broke up after 7 years, and I started talking to another guy. I asked this guy many questions including if he had any STD's. He said he HAD condyloma (genital warts). Well, in my mind I was thinking, 'How can you "HAD" condyloma?' I asked him how did you get rid of it and he told me that they froze it off. At any rate, I was pretty ignorant about viral STD's and continued to be interested in him. He told me he was diagnosed with Condyloma in 2005 and it was 2009 when we started talking. I had also heard that he had genital herpes from a person he knew very well.
One day we met up with each other and things got pretty heated. He had his boxers on and only exposed his penis. I saw and felt no visible bumps, lesions, or sores. We had close body contact (in other words, touching each other), but I had on some thin pants (for it was summer time and it was hot) and some thong underwear. With this being said we grinded (rubbed) on each other. I never took off my pants or underwear. In fact, I had on all of my clothes. We did touch each others genitals (him only touching the clit part of my genitals and nothing else). Nothing further happened (no oral sex, vaginal sex, or anal sex).
Well, 3 to 5 days later (can't remember specifically because it has been since 2009 since the incident) I started experiencing sensations I have NEVER experienced before. Itching, burning, and tingling all over the vulva (including the anus). I was pretty upset. There I was at 26 years old and never in my life have I had any vaginal problems until 3 days after I had contact with someone who I knowingly "had" an STD. I didn't know what was going on. I went to a health departmet soon after and got tested for all STD's and all of them came back negative. My problem was not fixed and I scheduled an appointment with my OBGYN a couple of months after going to the health department & getting tested. My OBGYN diagnosed me with Bacterial vaginosis (I had all the symptoms of BV WITHOUT any odor). I cried in relief knowing that it was only BV. I was treated for this bacterial infection.
12 months later BV re-occured and was treated once again. Then, 6 or 7 months later (which is now), I'm now being treated for my third BV occurence (I went to the OBGYN this past Thursday). She also found two small Nabothian cysts on my cervix near the cervical OS.
I met another guy in 2009 and we have been sexually active for two years (monogamous relationship. Of course, I asked him questions concerning STD's before any intercourse had occured) and nothing has showed up (as in bumps, lesions, sores). I haven't told him about the incident because when I was treated the first time, my nurse practicioner told me that I should not be worried about it b/c it is usually transmitted via sexual intercourse. She also told me that HSV & HIV testing was not necessary as well (because I was considering getting both of the tests).
My nurse practitioner told me that she thinks that I should just let it go (my thoughts and anxiety about maybe having a viral STD). My mind battles the fact that I had a perfectly normal vagina before I had contact with this guy and mysteriously got BV a couple days after contact without ever having sex.
In conclusion, I still have a fear that the virus MAY have been transmitted to me. Everytime I get a BV diagnosis, I suddenly become a hypercondriac and I start self-diagnosing myself....not good at all because it only escalates my anxiety! Help put my mind at ease.
*QUESTIONS:
1) I can't help but think that ever since I had close contact with that guy, why am I having so many vaginal problems, WHY!? Could it be that I have somehow gotten the virus (or who knows what other things he could have had...maybe even HSV) from this incident?
2) Could the virus have gotten transmitted to me through my clothing if I wore my clothing overnight?
3) Could hand to genital & genital to hand contact have transmitted the virus (in other words, if he touched his genitals and then proceeded to touch mine)?
4) Is BV commonly a symptom of venereal warts?
5) Does HPV & HSV have similar modes of transmission?
6) Based on the incident, what were my chances of getting the virus from this guy that had a previous diagnosis of condyloma?
P.S. Any other input you might want to add to help put my mind at ease??
You absolutely did not contract any std at all from the encounter you had in 2009. You were clothed. Std's aren't going to go through clothing. it really is coincidence that you developed bv.
it's very common for women to be "prone" to bv and other vaginitis. Really not unusual to have had it a few times in a few years at all and no reason to think that you have been walking about with a std for 2 years.
grace
it's very common for women to be "prone" to bv and other vaginitis. Really not unusual to have had it a few times in a few years at all and no reason to think that you have been walking about with a std for 2 years.
grace
Nyxs, this is the second post that I've read in which you are providing incorrect information. Please do not post in other forums with incorrect information as they do not need to stress over something incorrect, Please find this as a warning and you will be reported if you continue.
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NyxsDemise,
I have been reading under the expert forums and Dr. Handsfield states that 'STD's are not tranmitted from hand-to-genital contact, & that in his 30 years of practice he has never seen an STD that didn't come from penetrative sex.' He states, 'that in theory it can occur, but in practice it does not.' I have also read from some other experts that skin on the fingers is much thicker & it is highly unlikely that that the virus is transmitted. I value your explanation but I'll take the experts findings. Thank you!
I have been reading under the expert forums and Dr. Handsfield states that 'STD's are not tranmitted from hand-to-genital contact, & that in his 30 years of practice he has never seen an STD that didn't come from penetrative sex.' He states, 'that in theory it can occur, but in practice it does not.' I have also read from some other experts that skin on the fingers is much thicker & it is highly unlikely that that the virus is transmitted. I value your explanation but I'll take the experts findings. Thank you!
point blank if he touched his genitals without using hand sanitizer in between or waiting like a long while or washing his hands and then touched your genitals right after then you could EASILY have gotten pretty much any std he might have been carrying... simply because any body fluids or skin cells could have hitched a ride on his hand and then gotten on your genitals and set up camp so to speak... bacteria and virus cells take TIME to die after leaving their happy homes on/in a person's body and then being on a nice warm body temperature (IDEAL temperature) hand only makes those std cells last longer away from the genitals admittedly its still a limited amount of time they can survive there since the skin on a human hand is not a viable place for those cells reproduce themselves and the life cycle for those types of cells isnt especially long but it is long enough to last through a combo masturbation & groping session.
Oh just to clarify I was referring to the cause of your bv infections not STDs... sorry you have to deal with the BV infections but if you need somethig to tell him just explain it is a natural infection in women and there is nothingyou can do to control it since there are many causes... then if he isn't happy tell him to google it and look for the CDC link it will ex. it to him
one more thing.... you ask, "why not be concerned for your new partner since 09?" I had asked him about STD before any intercourse. He said he was tested for STD's and he is clean (he has not slept with many people (< 5), whereas, the guy that I had the one-time encounter earlier in 09 told me that he had slept with 30+ people). Plus, we are monogomous and I trust him whole-heartedly. I have no doubt in my mind that he is faithful and I am faithful as well. We have had many discussions and we communicate very well with each other.
Oh, trust me.... I am MOST concerned about my partner since 2009. He is the love of my life and I'm not saying that to be cheesy. He knows about my occasional BV re-occurences and asks me why I am getting them. He wants to know, but like you said, there can be a number of things that cause BV so I can't give him a specific explanation. If it wasn't for his concern over why I keep getting these infections, I wouldn't worry quite as much. I want to give him an explanation and I can't, and that bothers me...because I can't give him an accurate answer (and since my nurse practitioner told me it's nothing I should worry about, I felt the need not to disclose such a seemingly minor encounter...that way I wont escalate any unneccesary anxiety and worry for him). I initially got BV without any intercourse (I abstained from intercourse for about a year. I know surprising but true)... so I don't fully blame my BV on sperm (although I know semen is alkaline and an alkaline environment can cause bacterial growth). As for my partner now, he does put lotion on sometimes, but not when we have intercourse.
I failed to mention that during that one time encounter, I was on my period and used a tampon. After, the encounter I went home exhausted and fell asleep and failed to remove the tampon as well as the clothes that I wore during the encounter. My mind tells me it was probably b/c of prolonged usage of the tampon, but my mind also wonders why I got the vaginal irriation a few days after the encounter (BV). I've accidently done this once before and nothing happened.
Also, I haven't accidently left a tampon in since that encounter, but yet I still get these BV infections.
I guess with time I will find my triggers for BV. Thank you very much for answering all my questions.
I failed to mention that during that one time encounter, I was on my period and used a tampon. After, the encounter I went home exhausted and fell asleep and failed to remove the tampon as well as the clothes that I wore during the encounter. My mind tells me it was probably b/c of prolonged usage of the tampon, but my mind also wonders why I got the vaginal irriation a few days after the encounter (BV). I've accidently done this once before and nothing happened.
Also, I haven't accidently left a tampon in since that encounter, but yet I still get these BV infections.
I guess with time I will find my triggers for BV. Thank you very much for answering all my questions.
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2- nope no way at all
3 nope no risk
4 no, not to my knowledge of warts
5 yes they are both skin to skin and shed.
6 none and most likely he had cleared the virus like he said
I think you can honestly let this go you didnt have a risk