HHH and EWH says handjobs are 0% risk

[IHHJ]

how can handjobs be zero percent risk (or close to the chance of being hit by a meteorite, as the doctors sometimes say) when, for example if every year 6000 people acquires primary and secondary syphilis? and when their hands have rash (which I believe is contagious) or lesions and sores (which are also infectious) during the secondary stage, and they give handjobs, their rashy hands or lesion-filled hands will be touching/massaging the head of the penis during the handjob (head of the penis being a mucous membrane that's susceptible to bacteria).  Or sometimes even touch the opening of the urethra.  Please answer me that.

[gracefromHHP]

tell you what, since you don't seem to like the answers we are giving you, please by all means, pay and ask them to the std experts on their forum.   this forum is for education and support, not for entertaining your ridiculous fears post after post after post.

grace

[Vance2335]

The reason why we use these analogies is because it helps people related to the almost impossibility of the situation.

The woman having syphilis in a developed country on the hand is probably as close to zero as you are going to get.

1. Possible, but so unlikely
2. Again possible but very unlikely
3. Same possible but very unlikely

I don't know why you are trying to come up with a way that you got syphilis. 20,000 new cases of syphilis in the US. Vast majority (at least 70% if not higher) are from M2M contact. So lets say 15% (probably high) is women who have syphilis. Of those woman lets say 1/2 of the 15% has it on the hand (guarantee too high of a number) your really only talking about 3000 women in the US out of 150,000,000 women. And I would bet $1000 that 3000 number I just gave is too high.

I am going to be done on this thread because it's beating a dead horse. If you want to think you had a risk then fine test at 6 weeks for syphilis. Other then that you have been given great info on the subject.

[IHHJ]

Do you have a book of handjob-std related analogies to pick from? meteorites and lightning seems to be this forum's favorites...sorry, I don't mean to be sarcastic. It's just that the transfer of microscopic std bacteria from hands to genitals seems like a much much much more likely event than getting hit by lightning.

We already established the odds of someone having syphilis is very very low.

Let me try again and see if i can get definitive answers:
1)man's head of penis touch syphilis rash on woman's hands, syphilis transfer to man?
(Yes, No, very likely, not very likely)
2)man's head of penis touch syphilis sore on woman's hands, syphilis transfer to man?
(Yes, No, very likely, not very likely)
3)penis touch sores on hands safer than penis touch sores inside vagina?
(Yes, No)

Love,
IHHJ



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[Vance2335]

You are not at risk and need to get this out of your head. You have a better chance of getting hit by lightening in a snow storm while in your bed then you do getting syphilis from being masterbated.

[IHHJ]

Any feedback?

[IHHJ]

Thanks for replying.  I know the odds of an episode such as the one I described happening is very low.

But WHEN it happens, then what?  Are there any reassuring scientific facts? Such as:

-the head of the penis (with cuts and/or abrasions) and tip of urethra is a not good receptor of stds' bacteria/virus during a handjob, even if it directly contacts fluids from sores/lesions or directly contacts a rash because a handjob happens in an "open-air" environment...as opposed to anal/vaginal/oral sex where it's in an enclosed environment.

Is the head of the penis (the complete helmet shaped area) a mucous membrane that is susceptible to std bacteria/virus from direct contact if there are no visible cuts? (or microscopic cuts)

Doctor HHH mentioned that std bacteria/virus such as syphilis and genital herpes need to be "vigorously rubbed into susceptible tissues" for the STD to transmit.  Wouldn't a 3 minute handjob that includes constant rubbing of the head of penis be classified as vigorous rubbing?  And what ARE the susceptible tissues of the penis?

Thanks for your response

[Vance2335]

US population roughtly 300,000,000...so even if you say 10,000 people have syphilis on there hand look at the unreal percentage that it would be a risk from being masterbated.

[IHHJ]

i appreciate your reply and understand what you are saying.  Of course, the vast majority of people do not have syphilis rashes or lesions on their hands. But the minority of people who DO have syphilis rashes and lesions on their hands in the U.S. at any given moment is not like 4 or 5 people...It's more like 6,000 or more, according to figures HHH gave in a previous post, would you agree?

What I'm trying to say is, if I was amongst the unlucky bunch who has ever received an unprotected handjob from an infected person who has syphilis sores/lesions/rash on their hands, Is the chance of transmission high or low? or there's no way of telling?

When people are thinking of the worst and worrying about their health, hearing "most people don't have syphilis sores on their hands" won't help because there are a significant amount of people who DO have syphilis sores/rashes/lesions on their hands.  What they want to know is, if what I explained in the previous paragraph did occur, the chances of transmission will still be low or "unrealistic" because of this or that (insert scientific explanation).  Thanks for your time.

[gracefromHHP]

the vast majority of people do not have syphilis rashes on their hands, nor do they have any other std on their hands.  

there are realistic risks and unrealistic risks. thinking someone who gave you a hand job has a std on their hands is unrealistic.

grace