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Nongonaccal Urethritis Transmission
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I'm hoping someone can give me some reasonable advice. About 6 months back I had oral sex without a condom and then vaginal sex with a condom with a woman I didn't know very well. Two days later I had unprotected sex with my wife. 3 days after that I began noticing symptoms such as a thin clear discharge (it leaves yellowish stains in my underwear), I have a frequent urge to urinate, occasionally I get a sharp shooting pain in my urethra, and some times the tip of my penis is sensitive. I never experienced the thick discharge or the burning sensation while urinating. I went to see my doctor he had gave me Ceftriaxone Sodium (250 mg) shot and then a Doxycyline Hyclate (100 mg) 10 day prescription. He dignosed me with Urethritis. He took a urine sample and I was negative for Gonorrhea and Chlamydia. He also examined my urine for increased white blood cells but that was negative also. I took the prescription and didn't have sex with my wife for 7 days and finished the prescription.
6 months later I still have the symptoms described above, but I've read a lot on this form that many times the syptoms stay with people. My questions are:
1. Is there a good possibility my wife has NGU due to me having sex with her 2 days after I was exposed and has it just been passed back to me? When I had sex with her two days after my encounter with another woman I don't remember any symptoms except frequent urge to unrinate.
2. Is two days a long enough gestation period to where I could have passed it to my wife?
I've been worried sick for months now due to the fact that I may have passed it on to her. We have a 2 year old child and I'm sure if I suggested she get checked, it would open up a can or worms and much suspicion, and I know she will probably leave me. I know anxiety also causes symptoms to remain, but I'm really worried that NGU is present in both of us, and the mental anguish of not knowing and potentially hurting my wife has driven me to the point of contemplating suicide.
I know this whole story does not look good and I know the answer is that I probably passed it onto my wife. Can any health professionals comment on this regarding the two questions above?
Thank you
I'm hoping someone can give me some reasonable advice. About 6 months back I had oral sex without a condom and then vaginal sex with a condom with a woman I didn't know very well. Two days later I had unprotected sex with my wife. 3 days after that I began noticing symptoms such as a thin clear discharge (it leaves yellowish stains in my underwear), I have a frequent urge to urinate, occasionally I get a sharp shooting pain in my urethra, and some times the tip of my penis is sensitive. I never experienced the thick discharge or the burning sensation while urinating. I went to see my doctor he had gave me Ceftriaxone Sodium (250 mg) shot and then a Doxycyline Hyclate (100 mg) 10 day prescription. He dignosed me with Urethritis. He took a urine sample and I was negative for Gonorrhea and Chlamydia. He also examined my urine for increased white blood cells but that was negative also. I took the prescription and didn't have sex with my wife for 7 days and finished the prescription.
6 months later I still have the symptoms described above, but I've read a lot on this form that many times the syptoms stay with people. My questions are:
1. Is there a good possibility my wife has NGU due to me having sex with her 2 days after I was exposed and has it just been passed back to me? When I had sex with her two days after my encounter with another woman I don't remember any symptoms except frequent urge to unrinate.
2. Is two days a long enough gestation period to where I could have passed it to my wife?
I've been worried sick for months now due to the fact that I may have passed it on to her. We have a 2 year old child and I'm sure if I suggested she get checked, it would open up a can or worms and much suspicion, and I know she will probably leave me. I know anxiety also causes symptoms to remain, but I'm really worried that NGU is present in both of us, and the mental anguish of not knowing and potentially hurting my wife has driven me to the point of contemplating suicide.
I know this whole story does not look good and I know the answer is that I probably passed it onto my wife. Can any health professionals comment on this regarding the two questions above?
Thank you
Please tell me your clinical expertise and training. More often than not, I have seen some experts here say "you have nothing to worry about" and in reality they have ALOT to worry about. Is it because the "experts" are complicit or is it they are blind to all of the people that have unexplained medical issues that are sexually related. If these illnesses are causing stillbirths and deformed children, you have to demand more research. I don't believe a darn thing the IDSA has to say or the CDC in regards to this. How can you get published papers and peer reviewed papers when the govt denies the existance of something. And yet the evidence is there. The govt denied AIDS as well, look where THAT got us.
I believe the CDC does have information on M. Genitalium. I think I saw something that was dated 2011, so there is current information. They do know it's a problem, but the issue is lack of reliable and accessible diagnostics. As you know, it's very difficult to detect MG and must be done via PCR. Still they are reluctant to classify this as a known STD because.....you guessed it, more studies need to be done.
Like I said before, from doing your own research you can see this is a major problem and epidemic. However, the government is slow to put themselves out there and actually state this is a known STD and that doctors should check for it. Unfortunately the private sector works a lot more quickly than government. Part of the issue seems to be a lack of funding for large scale studies on the subject.
Like I said before, from doing your own research you can see this is a major problem and epidemic. However, the government is slow to put themselves out there and actually state this is a known STD and that doctors should check for it. Unfortunately the private sector works a lot more quickly than government. Part of the issue seems to be a lack of funding for large scale studies on the subject.
Here is a quote
"Many of the symptoms are similar to AIDS because they are both immuno- suppressive and attack the immune system. Most victims will have half to two-thirds of these symptoms (some more severe than others). Wives married to GWI victims are likely to get the disease via sex and other close contact, and their symptoms can even include cervical cancer, ovarian cysts, ovarian tumors, endometriosis, painful intercourse, chlamydia, and herpes. About 90% of the wives of veterans who are sick with GWI are now complaining of these symptoms."
And
"99.9% of the medical doctors in America can't recognize GWI, don't believe it even exists because of the government and medical establishment saying it doesn't exist, would have no idea how to test for it and even less idea how to treat it. Most alternate medical practitioners are in the same boat although many of them would try detoxification and immune system therapy which would be helpful. These are answers (if the disease is not too far advanced) both in the tradition (mainline) medical area and in the alternate" medicine field which will be discussed in Section VI below. If you or a family member reading this report are discouraged at this point, turn to Section VI on Methods of Treatment before continuing].
^^Sounds like thats sexually transmitted to me^^. Bumps on my penis, sore skin, tingling in groin, painful urination. Leading to an autoimmune illness just like Syphillis. But your RPR test will be NEG Sure sounds like a STD to me. This is something new, and I think it's been engineered to be more virulent. And if you think the Gov't would never do such a thing, go back and look at the Tuskeegee Experiment.
"Many of the symptoms are similar to AIDS because they are both immuno- suppressive and attack the immune system. Most victims will have half to two-thirds of these symptoms (some more severe than others). Wives married to GWI victims are likely to get the disease via sex and other close contact, and their symptoms can even include cervical cancer, ovarian cysts, ovarian tumors, endometriosis, painful intercourse, chlamydia, and herpes. About 90% of the wives of veterans who are sick with GWI are now complaining of these symptoms."
And
"99.9% of the medical doctors in America can't recognize GWI, don't believe it even exists because of the government and medical establishment saying it doesn't exist, would have no idea how to test for it and even less idea how to treat it. Most alternate medical practitioners are in the same boat although many of them would try detoxification and immune system therapy which would be helpful. These are answers (if the disease is not too far advanced) both in the tradition (mainline) medical area and in the alternate" medicine field which will be discussed in Section VI below. If you or a family member reading this report are discouraged at this point, turn to Section VI on Methods of Treatment before continuing].
^^Sounds like thats sexually transmitted to me^^. Bumps on my penis, sore skin, tingling in groin, painful urination. Leading to an autoimmune illness just like Syphillis. But your RPR test will be NEG Sure sounds like a STD to me. This is something new, and I think it's been engineered to be more virulent. And if you think the Gov't would never do such a thing, go back and look at the Tuskeegee Experiment.
Right.....and my penis pain is not related with a tingle in my scrotum. Once again you are overlooking that. there were over 23 KNOWN genital affecting agents used as bioagents during the gulf wars and soldiers are experiencing these issues now. Go look and see who many posts are like mine that you and others have dissmissed. Lymes disease/ Mycoplasma Fermentans Incog and M. Genitalium DO EXIST. You just have not done enough research to be aware of it. Tell me why the CDC and IDSA have no information about them avail. If you were hiding something, you would certainly not post it.
Please tell me why as well Govt biowarfare labs are studying ovarian cancer. Why are Gulf War spouses and Lyme spouses experiencing Hysterectomies. This IS an STD.
Please tell me why as well Govt biowarfare labs are studying ovarian cancer. Why are Gulf War spouses and Lyme spouses experiencing Hysterectomies. This IS an STD.
Thank you for your response. I have a few questions for you since you brought up your own bout of NGU, if you dont' mind.
1. what did your azithro treatment consist of? Dosage and length of treatment?
2. I'm a middle aged guy, and I've never been prone to NGU, and I've had a lot of sex, protected and unprotected. Are you suggesting I may be continuing to have symptoms because I'm predisposed to genital bacterial infections?
3. during the month it took to resolve your issue, did you have unprotected sex with anyone?
Yes, I'm still having symptoms, that was the point of this post. It's been more than a couple weeks that you suggested and multiple antibiotic treatments with no resolution. There has only been slight improvement when I began Azithro, and then a few days later symptoms returned. With Moxiflox my symptoms cleared up, only to return a few days later. So you can see why this post continues at length, there hasn't been a resolution of symptoms for myself or bigwreck, and now ewford has come forward to say he's experiencing the same symptoms. Although his symptoms are far beyond anything I have, he is still experiencing them after over 14 months and mutiple treatments.
Yes, this has been very frustrating and I'm sure this post is beginning to generate a lot of attention. I'm happy for the people who have been cured of this terrible infection, but as for myself and bigwreck, this has been nothing but a living hell for us. If you dont' have a wife or kids, you can go on with life and get treatment without having to worry about anyone else, but if you're like myself and bigwreck, you worry constantly because there are other people involved and the thought of losing everything you hold dear to yourself (family, wife) is devastating and depressing. I do appreciate you sharing your experience with us and the comments you have provided, but the fact remains that we still have symptoms and we are still searching for a way to get better.
1. what did your azithro treatment consist of? Dosage and length of treatment?
2. I'm a middle aged guy, and I've never been prone to NGU, and I've had a lot of sex, protected and unprotected. Are you suggesting I may be continuing to have symptoms because I'm predisposed to genital bacterial infections?
3. during the month it took to resolve your issue, did you have unprotected sex with anyone?
Yes, I'm still having symptoms, that was the point of this post. It's been more than a couple weeks that you suggested and multiple antibiotic treatments with no resolution. There has only been slight improvement when I began Azithro, and then a few days later symptoms returned. With Moxiflox my symptoms cleared up, only to return a few days later. So you can see why this post continues at length, there hasn't been a resolution of symptoms for myself or bigwreck, and now ewford has come forward to say he's experiencing the same symptoms. Although his symptoms are far beyond anything I have, he is still experiencing them after over 14 months and mutiple treatments.
Yes, this has been very frustrating and I'm sure this post is beginning to generate a lot of attention. I'm happy for the people who have been cured of this terrible infection, but as for myself and bigwreck, this has been nothing but a living hell for us. If you dont' have a wife or kids, you can go on with life and get treatment without having to worry about anyone else, but if you're like myself and bigwreck, you worry constantly because there are other people involved and the thought of losing everything you hold dear to yourself (family, wife) is devastating and depressing. I do appreciate you sharing your experience with us and the comments you have provided, but the fact remains that we still have symptoms and we are still searching for a way to get better.
Hello again, guys.
ewford: your symptoms for 14 months are NOT STD related, "Headaches, stiff neck, eye pain, stabbing pains occasionally in my stomach, penis pain, bowel issues, joint and muscle pain, fatigue."
NGU fool: as far as what Dr. Handsfield has said, "NGU is cause either by chlamydia or MG. When unprotected oral is recieved, typically chlamydia isn't the cause but other bacteria, noteably MG, is the cause, but some times the cause is never known".
Just to clarify, yah the likely cause of NGU in about 30% of cases is chlamydia, and then in another 30% of cases its caused by a bunch of other bacteria ... so then Dotcors will treat it. With best hopes it goes away. It took 1 month for my NGU to go away after treatment (Azithro), and read up extensively as you guys have. Then I found out I was more prone to gential bacterial infections so I stopped having sex. And I don't like to have unprotected sex as it irriates my urethra like what happend a couple weeks ago. I expalin it to my girlfriend that when I have unprotected sex it almost always irriates my urethra. I did experience a couple symtpoms like tinggling, urinating alot, slight discharge after urinating recently after unprotected sex; But now I am completely fine. This is why you need to give it a couple weeks so see if this mysterious disease cures itself. If not continue to work with a urologist on it.
Are you still having symptoms? I sure hope not. Best of luck with this, I know its kinda frustrating not knowing but the your main goal should be to get better physically and physcologically. Again, you did NOT infect your wife and you're going to be fine.
ewford: your symptoms for 14 months are NOT STD related, "Headaches, stiff neck, eye pain, stabbing pains occasionally in my stomach, penis pain, bowel issues, joint and muscle pain, fatigue."
NGU fool: as far as what Dr. Handsfield has said, "NGU is cause either by chlamydia or MG. When unprotected oral is recieved, typically chlamydia isn't the cause but other bacteria, noteably MG, is the cause, but some times the cause is never known".
Just to clarify, yah the likely cause of NGU in about 30% of cases is chlamydia, and then in another 30% of cases its caused by a bunch of other bacteria ... so then Dotcors will treat it. With best hopes it goes away. It took 1 month for my NGU to go away after treatment (Azithro), and read up extensively as you guys have. Then I found out I was more prone to gential bacterial infections so I stopped having sex. And I don't like to have unprotected sex as it irriates my urethra like what happend a couple weeks ago. I expalin it to my girlfriend that when I have unprotected sex it almost always irriates my urethra. I did experience a couple symtpoms like tinggling, urinating alot, slight discharge after urinating recently after unprotected sex; But now I am completely fine. This is why you need to give it a couple weeks so see if this mysterious disease cures itself. If not continue to work with a urologist on it.
Are you still having symptoms? I sure hope not. Best of luck with this, I know its kinda frustrating not knowing but the your main goal should be to get better physically and physcologically. Again, you did NOT infect your wife and you're going to be fine.
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