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Barbiturate Problems

I have been prescribed benzodiazepines for anxiety and panic related disorders (& occasioally BZD Hypnotics for sleep though only midazolam, quazepam, flunitrazepam and the inducers triazolam and brotizolam seem to work. Temazepam in high dosage helps nicely but UK NHS tablet form is useless, seeming around one quarter the strength of liquid filled Normison gelcaps and even Restoril powder capsules - docs are reluctant to prescribe 40mL oral solution which is the only effctive UK form.) I have also since 1976 been prescribed barbiturates, initially Nembutal, ltterly Tuinal 100/100mg but that has now ceased production. Doctors can not find pharmacies able to provide the two drugs required to make up the Tuinal combo, we can not even source Seconal now and to stave off withdrawal for almost a year I have had to take Sedabarb phenobarbital, a long acting anticonvulsant barb which would kill me were I to take the quantity required to act as hypnotic; and then due to duration of action if I survive I would probably become narcoleptic!
So I ask: I have an EHIC and already go to other EU countries to get 2mg Xanax, 40mg Lysanxia, 12mg Lrxotan and other drugs like medazepam, dextromoramide, mdthaqualone (Toquilone - if available; I have not had a prescription for that excellent but liw potency hypnotic in over 24 months.
I really need to know where is best to obtain secobarbital sodium and amobarbital sodium in order to combine into my own Tuinal caps. Please, if anybody here knows which countries I would most easily get prescribed these essential barbiturates so I can use them properly and stop taking these mucky 60mg phenobarbs, let us know. It is as if suddenly they have disappeared. Marathon Pharma USA will not export their products to me no matter what kind of prescription I offer. Some docs are genuinely sympathetic but tell me that since Flynn (& Lilly) ceased production of Tuinal, they seem to only provide the others for research projects and the like,and patients like myself, habituated for 35+ years must suffer. I heard Greece was good for barbs but can not connect with any provider. My mail order pharmacy in Belgium still has Seconal sodique pulvules 100mg listed at €7.99 per tub of 100 but when I try to order I get an error message.
Surely there are many others in my position who have solved the riddle. I only hope some of you are on here.
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Sorry, but I'm seriously doubting that anyone on here will have more expertise in sourcing secobarbitol and amobarbitol than you do.  There may come a time when you have to "think outside the box" and take a completely different approach.  Good luck.
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Sad to say it looks that way but for something so cheap and common to vanish, I think a little research before my next foreign trip or business with China might help matters. I am not ready to stop what has been the key to my sleep issues for two thirds of my life and more. Yet.
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