cuts and a tiny open sore on the skin from my vagina to rectum

[Hyper_Anxious]

Hi I have been experiencing for three months now a tiny spotting of blood on my toilet tissue.. I thought it was from my rectum and went to the Docs to tell him my roids had flared up. The Nurse while taking a smear test had a look and said there seemed to be a skin tag on the anus area but it didn't look like it had bled. This was about three months ago.. The smear test came back normal. The Doc gave me some Anusol which didn't seem to be working.. AT ALL

Thursday I went to Back to the Doctors because my husband found a spot like raised area on the perineum and when he dabbed it with a tissue, blood and a little yellowy green (Sorry Yuck) came out of it. (It really is a tiny little hole with two like paper cuts by the side of it.. So of we both my husband and I trundled back to the doctor and had him take another look.

The Doctor said no anul fissures and no external hemroids. However it was a bit red and gave me some Betodine Iodine , this was Thursday.. WOW does it sting.. Any way after a few days its now Monday I seem to have a baring down feeling around the rectum area and it is very painful to sit on.. Hubby has continued to put Iodine on it after I washed it with a watered down Tea Trea solution.

The little whole abscess like thing and the paper cuts do not seem to be healing. I have stopped putting so much Iodine on the cuts now and covering it with Vaseline

Has any one else been expereincing this.. I am at my wits end and even talking about if I wernt here.... Over reacting?

Poor hubby has his head and face forward there a few times a day..OH Dear

[monkeyflower]

Sounds to me like a fistula, but I'd think your doctor would have seen that...

[Hyper_Anxious]

"How long have you had the actual sore (or cut) that hurts badly?"

About 3 months

[monkeyflower]

The glands around your anus can get infected, and fistulas can develop as a result. I had that happen a few years ago, and it felt and sounded very much like you describe. However, my doctor had no trouble diagnosing me, which makes me think that can't be the problem. If you're not seeing your family doctor, start there. If s/he isn't helpful, I'd get a second opinion.

[mrs canada]

You know - I don't really know what your sore is or what it could be - but honestly, it sure sounds like you're jabbing at it an awful lot. Maybe that is why it isn't healing? Can you use the ointment on it, then just leave it for awhile and avoid tight clothing there?

I wonder if it isn't re-opening every time it gets visited!

[Hyper_Anxious]

Hi thanks for your support. I am seeing the Nurse in the Morning and she will call in the Doctor so will let you know tomorrow.  

Another Idea is I have been up untill now cammando style no nickers (OOH er) and I wonder if the rubbing from the lining of my leggins could do this sort of thing..??

Uhm?

[glad2bamom]

I have experienced the same thing recently...thought I had yeast, thought I had BV...and then I realized---Oops.  I have this "girdle" thing that I wear under skirts and such to avoid panty lines, etc.  It is made of spandex and nylon.  That was the culprit for me.  I don't like underwear, and like you, would rather be without.  However, I'm going to have to go to cotton underwear in order to avoid this problem.

[mrs canada]

Yah - I would definitely avoid tight fitting clothing there.. I think constant rubbing can irritate it and prevent it from healing. Can you wear long skirts and boy-briefs for a spell? :O)

[Hyper_Anxious]

Ouch - Oh yes the Nurse and the Doctor have had a good prod about.. It seems to be fungal..

Come to think of it. I have had rubbing up there for some time, from my leggins and joggers. Uhmm?? You know where the lining goes up the crack of the ass. I have ignored it for months. And then gettting my scratching bar scratching it when it got itch,, No itch now just a few Painful sores and some hydro cream
God does it chaffe when you put it on

Now to look for cotton nickers....
No more commando style for me

Thanks for your support

[Hyper_Anxious]

OK Guys..

The little whole seems to have healed

I am left with three little paper cuts between my anus and vagina.. I am using Hydro cream.. wonders now how long it will take to clear up.. any Ideas.

I am not wearing tight trousers.. Although I do sit alot at the computer...

Any Ideas how long this might take to clear up?

[Hyper_Anxious]

Oh bugger the litle hole like fissure is back.. I stopped using the hydro cream a week ago to use anusol..

I am fed up .. lots of bright red blood from a little hole.. Right on my perinium... GGrrrr any one else having this problem... Do these thing re - ocurr

Thanks for any support

[very_painful]

I have tiny cuts; like paper cuts from my vagina to my rectum. What is that? Is it an std?

[salukigirl]

i experience the same thing. only on me it seems that they appear right after or even during sex, just like a tear, and they last for a few days or even a couple weeks before they heal up. then they next time i have sex it happens again. i have just kind of gotten used to them and figured it was because i was too tight but this has been happening for a few years now. and i dont know how after being with the same guy for almost 2 years i would still be too tight? its is rather painful. and im a fan of commando also so maybe that has something to do with it?

[OriginalCin]

Hiya.
I had this problem right after having my first child. I kept tearing and my skin down there was ultra-fragile. Turns out it was hormonal and I was prescribed estrogen ointment/cream to apply once or twice a day to the external areas and just ever so little inside. It strengthened the tissues and kept me from tearing after just a few days of use.
I swear, my clit hood would split open (talk about PAINFUL!) and my perineum would tear if I even thought about having penetrating sex. It'll also help with lubrication. :)
Another concern that you might want to consider...if you're having redness and this sore, and you're wearing anything with latex/spandex or your partner uses latex condoms, it might be the cause. I worked in the medical field and wore latex gloves all day, every day and now I'm super sensitive. If I'm exposed to latex, I get open sores and my skin swells and splits and if I miss fabric content lists and there's latex (like around the top of support hose or stockings), I'll get redness and irritation. Might want to check that.
Other than all that, I'm out of ideas. It seems like something a doctor would have already picked up on.

[vanti]

oh god sounds painful. Well i don't know if this is the same thing but i did have a paper cut type thing in the same place once- the nurse said to put neosporin on it and it really worked- try that if nothing else works

[speculating]

Hi guys, uhmm.. I don't know how to say this, but I've had these "cuts" since my early youth and later I was diagnosed with Herpes, now I still have the idea that its Herpes that causes these cuts?

I am not 100% sure about the comparison that I am drawing, as the Herpes outbrakes were very different (sort of pimples with puss in them, and a perticular infection smell).

Has anyone figured it out yet? I mean, even the Docs don't know..

[unknowncuts]

I have had the same problem for a while. After sex I get these cuts down there. So fustrated, I have asked 3 doctors now and this is not in any medical journal. I was diagnosed with Herpes but they said this has nothing to do with that.. I have tried iodine, rubbing alcohol, tea tree oil, neosporin and nothing. Its almost as if the skin does not want to heal..Soo fustrated, its almost as if I had a baby and the skin did not heal..If anyone hears anything else besides that estrogen cream(which I am going to try).. let me know.

[christinapd]

have small cuts in vaginal area it comes every so often after intercourse, I get itchy like as if it were a yeast infection, although these are small little paper like cuts that burn immensly when urinate or when touched also i have noticed swelling of the clitoria area..... any ideas......what's going on....

[6592]

This is herpes.  I have the same "whole" on my anal sphincter.  It is an open wound, and bleeds bright red blood with bowel movements.  It was misdiagnosed as hemorrhoids for the longest time.  Also the "paper cuts" from the anus to the vagina.  This is a common manifestation of herpes, the sores do not always appear as "cold sore" type appearances.

I know this is terrible news, but I am 100% positive that this is herpes from what you are describing.

[birdie5]

So I have this open sore from my vagina to my anus and it hurts like heck. I don't want to pee, and it hurts just sitting here or moving. Its kind of odd shaped and redish yellow. It also has white thick mucus. and my anus hurts really bad. Anyone have any ideas?

[trac777]

This is a lot of information, but please read though it, even if it doesn't all sound like you. I want everyone to know about this:

An autoimmune disease called Behcet's Syndrome's initial symptoms closely resemble the herpes virus, causing vaginal sores, cuts, fissures, folliculitis and or inflammation in the genital area. Other symptoms develop many years later. It is different in everyone who has it. . Your immune system is in over drive. It is an autoimmune disorder caused by enviromental damage to your immune system.  It could get better or worse, depending on how well you take care of yourselves and how well you are treated.

My symptoms started at age fifteen with itching, inflammation, then folliculitis (ingrown hairs), then cuts all over the vagina from time to time. It is different for everyone who has it. Some people just have inflammation where others may get cuts, or sores aswell. Folliculitis is a type of acne and is very common in Behcet's and occurs during or before a "flare" and can be on the face or anywhere. Chronic yeast infections and BV come hand and hand with Behcet's because it is a immune system disorder that weakens the immune system because the immune system is working in over drive. You are now allergic to more things. It is not contagious and it doesn't run in families. Researchers around the world think it is triggered by strep throat or from other enviromental causes. It has been proven to not be genetic. Gential to Gential contact will cause a reaction "flare" in these people, so will a common illness, injury, or stress. It is very important for people who have this to rest often, use condoms, and take good care of themselves to avoid flares. They will also need medication like steriods and or immune suppressants, depending on their case.  Someone who needs a lot of medication to start, might not need that much with a little time. Common symptoms later in the disease, if it goes untreated, are digestive symptoms, bowel inflammation, possible bladder inflammation that feels like a bladder infection, arthritis, fibromyalga, and very late in the disease serious eye inflammation and possibly central nervous system involvement. People rarely die from this illness, the main thing a person has to be worried about is quality of life. That why you want to be proactive, not scared. This disease can be managed if properly treated.

For about ten years I had the gential symptoms and was sure it was herpes. My doctors said there was nothing else it could be wvwn though all my cultures came back negative and never mentioned it again. None of the medication for herpes had ever helped me and I also noticed my husband never got sick from me. The inflammation was the worst and I was using hydrocortisone on my own by then for some relief.

I started having other symptoms like irritable bowel syndrome and fatigue. Then after I had two children my symptoms got a lot worse. FIbromyalga, Interstitial Cystitis, Epi-scleritis (inflammation of the small blood vessels in my eyes), and things like that. My immune system was attacking my body. It took years before I had enough symptoms and saw enough doctors to start getting it treated. They are still not totally sure what is wrong with me. There is a lot of misconceptions about these things because they are thought to be rare. The truth is that they are just highly under treated in the United States. They think I have something called Behcet's Syndrome, the world's oldest known disease. It is an autoimmune disease that can be very mild or more severe. It is hard to tell what it is unless you are able to get enough of the symptoms well documented and you have just the right symptoms even though your symptoms might be totally different than everyone else's symptoms. The stress in your life plays a big role in how bad your flares will be.

There are no tests that can tell if you have Behcet's. It is based on symptoms only. Vaginal symptoms that look like herpes (herpes causes inflammation, cuts, or sores), canker sores in the mouth at least three times per year, and inflammation in the blood vessels in the eyes. It can take years for enough of the symptoms to show up and they usually don't show up at the same time. You really need to fight for answers. Go to the American Behcet's Association for more information, but remember when you are there, those are the worst cases, most people with Behcet's don't have it that severe and do well with treatment.


I don't have an offical Behcet's Syndrome diagnosis yet is because I have yet to have any serious organ damage documented, which can actually be really hard to do. Not everyone has to wait as long as I have been waiting. A lot of the time small damage from tissue and blood vessel inflammation can not be seen by any tests. Often, surgery is required for them to find vasculitis. That is how they found vasculitis in me during surgery looking for endometriosis. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't still be waiting to start treatment. I am lucky because my symptoms have not been as serious as some, but it has also been a big problem because I have been suffering greatly and not gotten the help I needed many times. Most of my symptoms cannot be seen and it's been very hard to prove that something is wrong.  I have had to fight back against people thinking this was all in my mind. I have had to find a medical cause for my symptoms on my own and a lot of time was wasted because it came on over a long period of time. Only one of the hundreds of doctors I've seen had ever even heard of Behcet's Syndrome, he was a GI doctor. They do not look for it. One doctor, my Rheumatologist, told me he didn't even believe it existed. This disease is very real. It's treated all over the world, but most American doctors no nothing about it. They do not know the symptoms or how to treat it. They rely on old information and still think it only happens to people in the middle east even though research has shown it happens because something has damaged the immune system and not because of your genes. It does not run in families and it is not always a text book case. You would think it would show up on MRI's, but often with Behcet't it's the very smallest blood vessels involved, and those don't show up most of the time. It takes a big incident for them to see it and prove that you have it . American doctors don't want to be liable for treating anything until they have enough medical proof to be sure that you require the treatment. It is not easy to get that far. For us, it is more important to get the treatment before something bad happens, not afterwards. I have all the symptoms and I am being treated with immune suppressants and I have had several doctors diagnosis my symptoms as Behcet's Syndrome, but with this disease the ultimate decision is up to the Rheumatologist. My rheumatologist says it shouldn't matter if I have an official diagnosis as long as it is being treated. He says he is more concerned right now that I will lose my ability to qualify for insurance once I have a diagnosis. One thing to look for as far as tests are concern would be a a slighly high white blood cell count...your nerophils mainly, but others white cells also. It could mean just that you aren't feeling well at the time to have it be a little high, but if you can gather your records and show that you have an on going problem with a high white blood cell count, that would be a first step in showing your doctors something is not normal.

[trac777]

One more thing....I've seen over twenty GYN's as well as other doctors and I did my own research on the possible causes for the inflammation and for the cuts some people with Behcet's Syndrome get. I can tell you from what I have learned  that these symptoms are not caused by any type of HPV. They also would not be caused by Herpes 1 in people with no other apparent serious health problems like HIV. Bacterial Vaginosis and Yeast Infections may cause inflammation and small cracks in the folds of the skin, they do not cause cuts in center areas of the skin, and they heal without reoccurance once the infection is treated. An anal fissure can sometimes occur in the center area of the pernium (between the front and back) because of straining or constipation. Unless you have developed more than one cut at a time at some point, or have developed cuts in different areas of the genitals other than the pernium, a pernium cut may just be a fissure. An anal fissure would be a single cut that keeps happening in the same place over and over again on in the center of the pernium. An anal fissure is caused by repeatedly tearing open the thin skin in that area from straining. Not like the small cuts that just happen for no reason the way they happen with the Herpes Simplex Virus and Behcet's Syndrome. I have one cut the comes back over and over again on my pernium area, but I also get cuts in other areas from time to time aswell along with severe inflammation. All of my hormone levels are normal. Those are the only things I've found that could be the possible causes for these symptoms. Just having the inflammation is a symptom, not everyone get's the little cuts. Not everyone get's full blown Behcet's either. If you take good care of yourself, you can do really well.


I wanted to add I have herpes 1. Just about everyone has it. It should not be causing your symptoms unless something is wrong with your immune system. I had the new herpes blood test that showed I have herpes 1 but not herpes 2. We started doing culture after culture of my cuts trying to see if it was herpes 1. I have never had a culture come back positive for anything. It took a long time to prove it, but we have finally established my cuts are not caused by herpes 1. Herpes 1 is much milder than herpes 2 and should not be causing ongoing vaginal symptoms. If it is, it still says something is wrong with your immune system. The white blood cells were the only thing they could find abnormal with my tests. They found them in my blood and in my cultures every time I wasn't feeling good. For years they would say, well that's because you're not feeling well today. Until I gathered 15 years of records showing that I am not feeling well on a regular basis, that was the first clue.

[isabelmaj]

I'm having tiny cuts on my genitals and they sting when I pee they also itch and I'm getting a little white discharge I've never had a yeast infection before so i don't know how the symptoms are but i also have a cut in my perineum that hurts every time i wipe leaving little patches of blood, this is very confusion to me and i dont know what to do.
until recently i was on antibiotics for chronic sinusitis and wonder if this might have triggered this reaction.

[cottonsocks]

the skin between my anus and vagina feels really hard and i itch so much esp at night sometimes i shed a little blood but maainly its the itcing i to have a small cut on the left side of my bottom and it does sting a hell of a lot i am scratching loads in the night in my sleep which i know isnt helping but i dont know im doing it
im to embaressed to go to the docs and i have just bought anusol do i have to live with this forever im wondering

[cottonsocks]

sorry i forgot to mention that i also find the inside of my bottom to be really itchy and at times quite damp sometimes i have like a wet patch in my knickers ok it might be a bit of sweat but my bottom does feel wet when i wipe it with a tissue it dries once my knicers were really wet where the bottom goes and i was really worried about this but it hasnt been too bad since tnx for reading any advice would be appriciated as i have spoken to noone about this till today and ive been suffering for over a year x