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persistent odor in rectal area even after bathing.Anyone have this and find an answer??

Hi. this is so embarrasing but I saw a post from yrs back on this site about people who were having problems with fecal odor even after bathing. Unfortunatlely noone really seemed to find answers to this problem although it feels a little better reading that others have had this problem although sometimes even that doesnt seem real. Anyway back to th issue I have this persistent fecal odor that is present even after showering and I do not have poor hygiene habits. this started a few yrs. back and before I had no problems with this  at all. I first started with frequent bowel mvts. like 6 to 7 times a day did have sever stomach pain for awhile and went to emergency room for it one day because of the pain they did colonoscopy and only said they found lots of gas and hemmorroids. I still seem to have to have bowel mvts. alot although not usually as much as I did in beginning but still atleast 3-4 times a day. stool is flat and will at times have mucus in it. sometimes loose and sometimes not but probly more loose than anything but almost always flat. This odor problem has caused me to seclude myself and I have no job because of it I graduated with a degree in Occupational therapy but people will not hire me I get calls from agencies that are all excited and then they never call back I believe this to be due to the fact that at my other job I know coworkers made comments indirectly about it. I am in debt over school loans and recently had miscarriage and have tons of hosp. bills I have no insurance and feel as if this will eventually be break my spirit sort of already has if I do not find a solution to this issue. If anyone has had this problem please post even if you havent found a solution. Thank you
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What type of foods do you eat?  ILL try to help you...
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i eat all kinds:salmon asparagus,broccoli,chicken,gr turkey potatoes thing sof that nature
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ya we all eat that stuff.  I  was thinking maybe the foods you were eating what did your doctor say? Is he concern.........
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Have you been to see a gastrologist about possible IBS or prehaps crohn's or Ulcerative Colitis. I've had Ulcerative Colitis for over 2 years now, started when i was 15 i'm now just turn 18. i've always had problems with Frequently needing to rush to the toilet, but also sometimes a small problem with odor.
I'm in no way medicaly experienced. but i think you should go get checked for ibs, Crohns, UC

Good Luck and i hope you get your problem sorted.

Nick
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I have the odor problems and it is really unconfortable. I am going to see my doctor tomorrow, and will hit you back as soon as I can.
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sorry dude, I didn't go. But I think that it has something to do with how you eat. I think you should eat more hot soup, vegetibles, drink a lote of water, things like that. I just started to change the way I eat.
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just wondering what kind of underwear you use?  Thongs by any chance?  Since I've starting wearing them I've noticed that they smell really quickly, I guess because they are tight up against the rectum.

Never notice it when I wear regular panties
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Hello,

Thank you for sharing.  I have developed a similar condition and have had it on and off for the past 3 years.  I noticed that controlling my diet would decrease the symptoms.  If I did not eat much fats during the work day, I would not have the problem.  This, however, was not a healthy solution.  My stomach got used to eating little during the day and I could not make up for it by eating a large meal at night. I lost weight as a result and lacked the proper nutition - my immune system was weakened.  

Then, all of a sudden, without diet change, the smell returned and it was harder to control than ever.  My poor co-workers began to bring deodorant sprays to work and I felt really bad for them.  I'm sure that inhaling that type of odor is not healthy not to mention that it is unpleasant and a distraction.

I went to the doctor and was tested for parasites.  The test came back positive.  I was treated with antibiotics (Grapefruit seed extract is also beneficial).  Things have improved but I'm not back at work yet.

After only a month of putting up with the constant odor, I took a medical leave of absence.
I could not cope with it psychologically.

I think that perhaps it would be a good idea to seek other avenues of employment:
Letter carrier/deliverer, person who checks electric gas meters - perhaps even some type of work from home.

My doctor stated that my odor condition is rare and that he's only had 2 other patients who described similar symptoms.  At this point there is probably no cure but a healthy diet is always the first step to a healthier person.

Being a Catholic, I use prayer.  Sometimes, when I get so panicy and stressed, repeating the Hail Marys or saying the simple words of the Divine Mercy Chaplet helps to momentairly let go of the problem.  I also think of my uncle who had a colon or intestine surgery and afterwards had to have some kind of bag or something attached to him and that was giving off foul smells too.  Life! hehe...he's okay now...I hope that all will be well...it's absolutely necessary to find time during the day to do something that makes you feel optimistic -- dancing to a song you like, singing, calling someone - they won't be able to smell you, smiling...god loves you no matter what...I mean when our bodies are going to be decaying in the grave, he'll love us too and those bodies will stink...
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I don't have a medical solution, but an idea to help mask it for whatever it's worth...  spray febreeze on a sani-nap.  I don't know if it's safe to have the febreeze close to there, but it does remove odors.  

Also, in your work area, an air purifier could keep it fresher.  I've looked into these for another reason, so I'll give what I've learned.
1. Ionizers which generate ozone are a health hazzard to breath, so skip them.
2. Hepa filters are the gold standard at .3 microns of filtering.  Blueair makes one which is even finer than the usual at .1mc, and it's available all over like Target, Brookstone.  There are many smaller desk units too out there, that will be much less expensive.   Austin Air is another well known good company.
3. They really can change the smells in the air, in my experience.

If reducing foods helps, does reducing one particular food help?  For people with food sensitivities cutting out things like eggs or dairy can make a huge difference.  Is it possible that something in particular is triggering your symptoms?

I was also going to suggest looking into a home job related to OT, maybe writing reports, or medical billing submissions?  Anything to get you medical coverage so you can get some more testing done.  
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Wondering if you were ever able to correct your problem. I have the same type of odor issues and it is quite significant. I, like you, shower several times each day. I have tried baby powder, corn starch, cologne, and many other devices in an attempt to hide this odor. I just do not know what to do anymore. Though I do not suffer from the stomach rumblings, I certainly sympathize with you. If you have discovered any help, please forward. Thank you!
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check this out, ok like my dog had this prob (i know ur finking, what the hells a dog gotta do with this) but it was the exact same odor probs.  the vet said fecal matter gets caught in a pocket or somethin up in her bum.  we have to manually remove it.  before we did this she would smell like poop even after bathing.  after the vets advice she doesnt smell like that anymore.
one of my friends admitted to me to he had a similar prob and his dr told him to do the same fing, use a finger and remove the fecal matter that gets stuck in some kinda pocket up the bum.  
now i dont kno what this mite feel like or anyfing but next time u shower u could try using a finger to check if theres anyfin weird up thurr, just kinda clean the inside of ur bum out.  thurr could be poop stuck inside somewhurr.  
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I HAVE RUNNY STOOLS BY THEMELVES, LATER FOLLOWD BY BLOODY,MUCUS-LIKE DISCHARGE INSTEAD OF ASTOOL THE NEXT TIME. IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE CLUMPS OF FLESH WITH BLOOD IN IT!! SOUNDS GROSS BUT I'M SCARED! BLOOD TESTS SHOWED NORMAL ALONG WITH THE FECAL TESTS. I ALSO HAVE LOWER GUT PAINS AND STRAIN ALOT. FEELS LIKE DRY HEAVING FROM BEHIND! IT'S GOING ON TWO MONTHS AND I'M WORRIED AND NEED SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!
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You guys should try a gentle colon cleanse. Its worth a try, it will promote bowel movements and eventual clearing of the digestive tract, unless youre allergic to fibre, it shouldnt have any adverse affects on you. Even if it doesnt cure your problem completely, i recommend starting wiht that and im prettys ure you should see an improvement. Its all natural anyway.
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i 2 HAVE THIS PROBLM AND I CANT TAKE IT ANYMRE.  I'VE DONE THE COLON CLEANSE. NOTHING. I CHANGE DIETS. NOTHING. I SHOWER PROBLY MORE THAN SOME 3X ADAY. NOTHING. IF ANY IDEAS PEPAL PLEASE ADVISE. JUST GETTING DESPARATE
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Get tested for IBS or prehaps crohn's or Ulcerative Colitis.
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Dear Ones,
My grandson has had this condition for years, only it is debilitating since he reached his twenties.   He has not held a job in over a year, and has had to leave jobs because of this odor.  TODAY we finally found out that it is a rare genetic disorder: trimethylaminuria (TMAUt) with only 600 documented cases!  No cure, only a diagnostic test or DNA tests will confirm and avoiding certain foods helps.  ABC's Primetime aired an August 2006 story again March 7, 2008 featuring a lovely model with TMAU, titled:
The Model Who Smells Like Dead Fish ~ Trimethylaminuria Can Ruin Your Childhood, Career and Social Life. The story exceeded 8,000 characters but you can read it and see the model's photo at:  
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Story?id=2287206&page=1

Also see Wikipedia at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethylaminuria

AND:
National Organization of Rare Diseases
55 Kenosia Ave, PO Box 1968
Danbury, CT 06813-1968
(203) 744-0100; (800) 999-6673 (voicemail)
TDD (203) 797-9590; Fax (203)798-2291
E-mail Contact: ***@****:

See NORD article at:
http://www.rarediseases.org/search/rdbdetail_abstract.html?disname=Trimethylaminuria
You can purchase the full-text report for $7.50 (by Elizabeth Shephard, PhD, Professor of Molecular Biology, Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University College London)

Synonyms for TMAU are:  FMO, Adult Liver Form, FMO3, Fish Odor Syndrome,
Flavin Containing Monooxygenase 3, Stale Fish Syndrome

Trimethylaminuria is a rare disorder in which the body's metabolic processes fail to alter the chemical trimethylamine. Trimethylamine is notable for its unpleasant smell. It is the chemical that gives rotten fish a bad smell. When the normal metabolic process fails, trimethylamine accumulates in the body, and its odor is detected in the person's sweat, urine and breath. The consequences of emitting a foul odor can be socially and psychologically damaging among adolescents and adults. The genetic or primary form of this disorder is transmitted as an autosomal recessive trait.

A secondary form of trimethylaminuria may result from the side effects of treatment with large doses of the amino acid derivative L-carnitine (levocarnitine). The metabolic deficiency occurs as a result of a failure in the cell to make a specific protein, in this case, the enzyme flavin-containing monooxygenase3. Enzymes are nature's catalysts and act to speed up biochemical activities. Without this enzyme, foods containing carnitine, choline and/or trimethylamine-N-oxide are processed to trimethylamine and no further, causing a strong fishy odor. This secondary form of the disorder is a result of an overload of trimethylamine. In this case, there is not enough of the enzyme to get rid of the excess trimethylamine.

Organizations:
CLIMB (Children Living with Inherited Metabolic Diseases)
Climb Building
Crewe Intl CW2 6BG
Phone #: +44- 87-0 7700 325
800 #: --
E-mail: ***@****
Home page: http://www.CLIMB.org.uk

Genetic and Rare Diseases (GARD) Information Center
PO Box 8126
Gaithersburg MD 20898-8126
Phone #: 301-519-3194
800 #: 888-205-2311
E-mail: ***@****
Home page: http://www.genome.gov/10000409

Trimethylaminuria Foundation
P.O. Box 3361
New York NY 10163-3361
Phone #: 212-300-4168
800 #: --
E-mail: ***@****
Home page: N/A

Trimethylaminuria Midwest Region Foundation
12537 Hardy Street
Overland Park KS 66213-1446
Phone #: 913-906-9496
800 #: --
E-mail: ***@****
Home page: N/A
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Do not attempt to self-administer treatment approaches. Medications and supplements can have unintended interactions, and dietary restrictions can result in nutritional deficits. Choline is essential for nerve and brain development in fetuses and infants, therefore, pregnant and breast-feeding women should consult with their health care provider before restricting their dietary choline.

I found no Medhelp.org articles on trimethylaminuria or TMAU, so I know this will be helpful.  I will try to stay in touch.  Join us in praying for a cure.  I can testify to the power of prayer in Jesus' Name.  God hears and cares about each of our cares. He saved me from rape one night when I was abducted and dragged into the bushes while jogging, because I rebuked my tall black abductor in Jesus' Name!  Jesus' Name is all powerful, and that is why God commanded that we not take the Name of the Lord our God in vain.  God is constantly looking out over His Word to perform it.  God also cured me of an embarrassing skin condition that I had for over a year.  
Blessings, ~ggOH
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Hello everyone,

I have lived with an anal odor problem since I'm 18 years old. I don't know how I have even gone this long living this way. I can't believe that I haven't been fired from any of my jobs because of it. All I do know is that I am a very clean person, and can not for the life of me figure out what is going on. The odor I have is daily, and some days are worse then other days. I've had it so long that I don't even smell it any more, but I know it is there because I over hear people saying something, or see them rubbing their nose with disbelief. When I muster up enough courage, I'll go to a doctor, but hey basicly ignore me and don't even want to deal with it. Has anyone with a similar situation found any solution?
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Fiber laxatives probably make it worse.  Try buying an enema bag and using water or very mild enema recipe (Google it) or try using a Fleet enema 1 - 2 times per week.  I bet something is stuck higher than you can reach.  
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I TO HAVE THIS AND IT IS A BIG PROBLEM IN MY LIFE I TRY TO TAKE 3 SHOWERS A DAY NOTHING  AND IT SMELLS REALLY BAD IF ANYBODY COULD HELP PLEASE DO!
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I had a problem with anal odor that started about 40 years ago. A few years ago I realized that when I wore polyester pants the smell was worse and appeared more quickly. Showering daily helped but not much. One day, just for the hell of it, I decided to wash my rectum with Head & Shoulders shampoo, what is what I regularly use on what's left of my hair. I had been using it on my underarms for a while and now I almost never use deoderant. Anyway, after about 3 days use, the anal odor went away and it hasn't come back. I know this sounds pretty ridiculous, but, hey, occasionally something easy and cheap actually works.
I hope this helps some of you.

Maxfardo
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Hate to say it...but this stuff is often beyond the scope of your modern day doctor. 100 years ago you'd been cured of this odor w/just one visit by the doc.

Try Pineapple...canned or fresh!! Just one day will make a difference...but you have to eat alot of it. Fast first for 12 hours and then eat and drink up!! I recommend a weekend purge w/the pineapple. Put it in the blender and make a drink first thing in the morning. Beyond wiping out all the parasites that are more than likely stinking up you intestines, the enzymes seem to lend an ability to wipe out this decaying odor.

I've had similar "odor" experience off and on over the last 5 years and thought maybe it was the result of intestinal decay or undetected internal bleeding....however I'm no sicker today than I was 5 years ago...so I can only assume that this is a chronic condition that's just part of our human condition...and I"m not dying. I DID just happened to notice with antibiotic treatment the condition became worse, so I can only assume that the "odor" is the result of a weakening of bacteria in the intestines.

After the pineapple treatment I recommend a low fat high fiber diet w/yogurt everyday...and excercise. Nothing better than keeping the blood circulating to reduce accumulation of odor producing toxins!! Additinally I'd supplement w/dietary enzymes. Think of your digestive system is just like a big compost pile in the back yard.  Sometimes you have to "feed" it to get things to break down properly.
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Hi, I just want to say that my underarms had a bad smell.This morning
I asked my wife to smell and doing so under protest she said she didn't smell any thing. I had used a Lime the day before just after my shower. If it works for the underarms. Just remember to squeeze the lime and use the juice.
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I completely empathize with you! I've had a similar problem for the past 10 years now (I've posted on other strings here too). Basically, there is an offensive fecal odor from the anal area despite being ultra clean and going regularly.

It's terribly embarrassing and has pretty much destroyed my life! I've tried everything;

- regular colon cleansing (******)
- laxatives
- changes in the diet
- food diary to see if there are certain foods that cause it
- regular cleaning
- disguising the odor with cologne and deodorant

If I could get this resolved and my life back on track I honestly feel that I could single handedly solve world hunger. It's SO UNBELIEVABLY debilitating and embarrassing and from what I have read there is no one cure. I hope that me sharing helps others and thanks to everyone for sharing, I don't feel quite as alone on this one as I did.


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1st let me say that I pray that you have found an answer to this problem in the last couple years and this reply is not needed.
I stumbled across this by accident looking for something on a totally different subject.  But, I may be able to offer some assistance.
As others have said, and I hate to compare you to a dog, but I had the same problem with one of mine.  The vet explained that it was secretions from her swollen anal glands. Groomers and vets alike commonly gently squeeze the area at the opening of the rectum to void the secretions.  Not sure how easy that is on the human body, but if possible it's worth a try.
Now you mentioned hemmoriods.  I too have a small problem with those.  On occasions of flare up the swelling has created a pocket and under the swollen area fecal matter will accumulate and is actually uncomfortable almost immediatley.  It does need to be removed.  I use the finger cots sold in the drug store (mainly used to protect wounds on fingers), but works well for preventing unwanted mess.  Fortunatley mine is very close to anal opening and easy to pull out.  Sounds like you may have a similar problem just not as easy to reach.
I wish you luck in this if you haven't already found a solution.
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C-Diff
You should get your stool checked out for C-Diff = C - difficile is a bacteria in your intestines.  It is found normally in healthy and ill people alike.  There are millions, perhaps billions of different types of bacteria in your body.  Bacteria are an important part of your health.  They help break down and digest food.  They also ward off many "bad" or foreign bacteria that you may come in contact with.  In fact, the "good" or normal bacteria on your hands can kill certain bad bacteria which you may pick up handling food or touching everyday items and fixtures.
I had the same problem and after 3 yrs of living with this they finally found it. I am 100% cured from the antibiotics but I have to say I had my stool checked out 3 yrs ago and they found nothing you might want to do a few of them.
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