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What a Day (and it's only 9:45am)!

Hey Y'all - Not sure where to start but just needed to reach out to you guys today!  I am feeling pretty terrible physically again.  I am not sure whether there is something secondary going on or whether this is just round 10 of withdrawls.  I worked 18 hours yesterday, got home around midnight and had to spend most of the night in tub - haven't slept a wink either and the leg pains are as bad as ever.  Also, my appetite has gone away again and am suffering terrible feelings of zero motivation and that "cannot be bothered to do a thing" kinda feeling.  This is Day 10 without anything whatsoever in my system and I just thought it might be easier than this by now ~ is this normal or is there such a thing when coming off these danged pills?  It's very, very hard to have come this far and still feel so bad and I guess I am just reaching out for some reassurances and maybe some advice on what to do, where to go and how to handle?  Man, this is surely one of the hardest things I have ever gone thru and willpower alone isn't doing the trick right now.

Also, got home last night to find that my husband "needs time to think" and thus has taken a three-day fishing trip with his brother.  This is all OK with me as he needs to do what he needs to do to take care of him.  Of course, it maddens me though because I need him more than ever.  Maybe my symptoms are more emotional than physical and are manifesting themselves as severe withdrawal pains.  Heck, who knows, but I am struggling right now, badly. . .

Thoughts/suggestions/advice/support/help - all of the above would be soooooooooooooooooooooo desperately appreciated.

Hugs and love to all
Vicky xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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You ladies are my faves - you can take my thread anytime girls whether I am here or not.  I just love reading your comments and you guys make me laugh out loud sometimes.  I am so glad you guys have those great senses of humor that you have - you are just the best!!

NURSE - I AM SO VERY PROUD OF YOU SWEETIE.  I can only imagine how tough flushing that dang thing away was - way to go girl and keep up that great work.  Isn't it amazing how strong we become when we really, really don't want these pills anymore?  At one point, I would have dived down the toilet after a flushed pill and I am serious about that too :-)  Thanks for the advice on the other thing too i.e. s e x!   Feel, feel, feel - not sure how that goes but I do plan on reminding myself.  I'll let you know how that works out when my babe gets home on Sunday.  We've spoken to each other a lot and he is just amazing with his attitude and unconditional love.  I feel very blessed and do not blame him at all for leaving right now.  In a way, it's probably the best thing he could have done as I've had to dig even deeper.  I told him all about this Forum and ALL the amazing people here and he advised me to keep posting (like I am going to stop in any case).

I think I feel good today guys - I really think I feel good - I about want to stand on top of a rooftop and scream out real loud "I FEEL GOOD" - maybe I am crazy after all :-)

Love and hugs to y'all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Vicky
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Its probably a combination of the stress and working so many hours.   I feel for you and wish I had an answer.   The wds are so individualized.   Im on day 21 and am still sneezing and sniffling off and on.  My legs are restless when I try to sleep, not like the beginning of wds but just annoying.

I wish you success in your recovery, perhaps this was just the last of it...............best of all to you!
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Yes for sure I am indeed glad those days are over. Wish I could get my money back.Glad to pull a laugh out of you, girl, sometimes its the best medicine. I didn't mean to be rude and break in on her thread . Is that when you start a new one? What is proper protocol? Fix me up with some manners here. I'm still learning the drill.
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Yes for sure I am indeed glad those days are over. Wish I could get my money back.Glad to pull a laugh out of you, girl, sometimes its the best medicine. I didn't mean to be rude and break in on her thread . Is that when you start a new one? What is proper protocol? Fix me up with some manners here. I'm still learning the drill.
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I AM PROUD, PROUD, PROUD OF YOU!

Lots of hugs to you!
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LOL...LOL...LOL...LOL...

Thank you for the laugh. You don't know how much I needed to smile right now. Kinda tough afternoon.

But, yes- My mom always said "Highball", and I always said "Eight Ball". PHEW..glad those days are over.

I am fairly sure Vicky jas gone home by now so I don't feel so bad breaking in on her post.

Y'All have a good night.

Lots of hugs, Bonnie
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Vicky,
Just now catching up on everyones posts.  How is your day going, any better?  One of the great things about being clean is how great s e x can be when you're not numb, I had forgotten ;)~~.  Maybe when your husband gets back he can remind you.

Well, I had a major accomplishiment today.  I switched my purse to match an outfit and when I was looking for a sinus tab (which I left in my other purse), I found 5mg of oxycodone (my fav.).  Anyway, I layed it on my desk and looked at it for about 10 minutes.  I really wanted to take it!  Then I got up and flushed it, I was hard, but I did it!

I have to get back to work, chat more later, take care,
C.
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Hi ! I'm back from work, and I swear I need a highball. I think thats what mom and dad called a cocktail. That wasn't an 8 ball. hehe. Oh Loed. the inventoried the whole place today, all the bosses and thier bosses, and inventory ppl. And I'm just doing my job right up under the biggie, shakin like a leaf all day. Gimmme one of those valiums.They make me nervous and I'm not doing anything wrong.  I used to be a little s---. I out grew it somewhere along the lines. I guess I still have a guilty conscience. Boy, that guilt is a real motha.     Cathy
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Thank you for your reply, it sounds like you and he are in it for the long haul and know how to best work your way through, best of luck.  My husband was a marine in Vietnam so I really feel for your husband, please give him my best as well.
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Hey there - I don't we've spoken before.  Thank you for your concern and yes, you're correct that we have spent a lot of time apart due to one thing or another but no more time ever than when I am "using"!  I am the one who has pushed him away from me in every sense of the word and he's always the one who tries to make it back.  It's a very long and complex story but, even though I do need him now more than ever before, I trust his judgement that this is what he needs to do to gain strength, to come back stronger and be able to give me the support and love I so desperately need from him.  I posted yesterday that "unless I love myself, I am unable to give anything to anyone else" ~ well, I believe this works both ways.  He is hurt; he has been decived; I have lied to him consistently for two plus years; I recoil from him and have chosen pills before my marriage.  Unfortunately, we both have a lot of changing to do to make our marriage work but the first step is my wanting to get clean for me and not for him.  I am SO VERY DETERMINED and if he does choose to take this journey with me, then he needs to be strong enough for the ride (as I do).

Thanks for your words - I am feeling a little better this afternoon then I did this morning.  I ate food, which may not sound like much but the way I was feeling this morning, is huge.
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It sounds like you and your husband have spent a lot of time apart, due to his service and your job.  Maybe that's why it seems ok that he needs his space.  My concern is that you have a need for him "more than ever" at this time and he chose to talk it over with his brother instead of you.  I really feel for you and hope you're doing better.
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I meant to address that to "All the Fighters" not "All the Fighers"  - whoa, we definitely talk too much LOL xxxxxxxxx
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You guys, all of you guys are just so amazing.  The outpouring of support here is just mind-blowing.  Physically, I will make it but you guys are really making the difference as to whether or not I will make it mentally.  I love this Forum and you guys are just so real. . .just so real!

Swany - thanks for your words too honey.  We haven't spoken before but I've read your posts.  Actually, I think I've read everybody's posts non-stop since Monday.  It's kept me going to be honest.  I will try the benadryl tonight maybe - I have valiums but don't want to go down that path - although I did consider them last night.  The bath helped but then I got all weepy and sad because I felt scared and lonely so who knows which is worse right now:  physical or emotional?  It will all be OK and life's a journey and not a destination right?  I am at work right now so can't do anything to alleviate the ailments but keep on working.  The vacation day is tomorrow hon!  Thanks for posting to me and I hope your day is a good one?

Bonnie - again you put a big smile on my face girl.  You're the best and I be happy to clean some fish right now!!  Y'all take care - I am fixing to go and try and eat lunch (said in a strong TN drawl).  Husband just called to tell me he was thinking of me and that he loved me - couldn't have wished for anything more - my heart feels happy again.  It's more than I deserve from him!  Thanks for sharing about your past - it puts a lot into perspective.  Sometimes, it's easier to ignore and pretend than to accept and deal - hell, that's why I took opiates, right??  

Love to y'all - I'll be back when I've eaten something - yuk :-(
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dang..can us girls type or what??????  If my hubby saw this he would say "typical women. You gals just go on..and on...and on....

Ha..ha..ha..ha  Just was hoping to make you all giggle a bit.
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Nurse, so glad you are having a good day! You surely deserve that. Hope you thought about all the feedback you got regarding your recovering buddy at work.

Lonote, You could not be more right. I told myself "I'm not going back". But, you know what? That is old behavior for me. I would always run when things got too rough. Not today. Today I am going to do what I need for me, and that is to be right HERE. I will stay clear of the negativity.

Vicky, Yup, been around the program a lot. I was active in NA/AA for five years. I got my five year coins and then I decided I didn't need meetings anymore. Surprise..look where I am now. But it's OK. I am grateful that I made it back, it could have been worse.
I know your husband comes from a military background and it is a whole different way of thinking. I am not saying it is bad, it is just different from most of the people we come in contact with.
When I got clean the last time I was with my ex-husband. When he found out he was simply beside himself, as was his family. When I got home from rehab (1989), no one would talk about it. They pretended like it didn't happen. I felt so alone. I went to meetings everyday, did a lot of speaking engagements, and spent time with my sponsor. My ex just hated it. He wanted me to forget about my drug use and just get on with it. He was ashamed of me. I tried to get him to go to al anon, or anything, but he kept telling me that I was the one with the problem. Geez, he acted like he didn't know. I know that he knew, he just ignored it and then blamed me when it all came out in the open. We were together 17 years and then one day I packed my clothes, left him a note and walked out the door. I have no regrets. Now I am married to a supportive and understanding man.
Vicky, I am not trying to scare you and say this will happen to you. I am certain it will not. Your husband will come around. He will think for a few days and, like you said, come home and hug you. Then maybe you can go for that dinner we talked about!!

Y'all just keep your chin up in the meantime. Maybe he will come home with some fish for you to clean..ha..ha.ha...

Love and hugs, Bonnie
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Hi.
I haven't yet had the chance to talk with you but I saw your post and just wanted to give you some more supportive words and thoughts.  The more the merrier, right?  lol  Anyway, you sound like such a sweet person and I'm so sorry that you've reached all the way to day 10 and you are feeling so terrible.  IT'S JUST NOT FAIR is it?!!!  Why would that be?  Maybe Dimboy is right and you have just got a little bug or something.  At any rate......it was all good advice to try and get some healthy nutrition into your body.  And, hydration is OH so important!  

I think you said that you spent all night in the tub last night?  Did it help?  Maybe try and take a hot bath right now.  I bet that might help you to feel a little bit better.  Hmmmmm, what else can I think of.  I think the fact that you can be on here all day is probably crucial.  It helps so much just to get our thoughts down and that, coupled with the positive feedback is just awesome!!  

Sounds like you have a wonderful husband.  You are very lucky (as is he).  I'm so glad that with his upbringing, he is able to accept and support you and your addiction.  My husband, like yours, is SO, SO very private and a "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" kind of guy.  Sounds like yours is the same.   So, for him to be supportive to you is something!!!

Just keep hanging in there.  You said that you didn't sleep a wink last night.  Have you ever thought about trying just some Benadryl?  Diphenhydramine is the ingredient in all of those sleeping aid medicines, which is just Benadryl.  Maybe if you took 50 mg that might help you to get some sleep today.  I think you said you had the day off.  If you took a couple of 25 mg pills it might help you to fall asleep and you could sleep away the aches and pains.  Maybe when you woke up they would have subsided.  Just a thought.

Anyway.........like I said hang in there and we are all here to talk to when you need it.  Talk to you soon.

xoxo
Swany
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Hi I just want you to know  I'm thinking of you  nurse ,colly, my new friends over here. Its good to see you here and regularly. Pay no attention to negitive  ****, just come back over here where it not  negitive. We do get it now and then but its been smooth for a while. There are a couple in the mix that are very opionated, and don't express themselves the kindest. I went over there this week. a lot of good ppl and the helpers that help are great, otherwise I hang over here. I'm scraed cause if i go there I will sure get into to it with of them. Then I'll be the b----. Just Blow it off.
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I feel good today & guilty that I do because you and others feel so lousy.  It's a perfect San Francisco day, sunny and 70's.  Went out with the boy friend last night; he said it looks like I've lost 5 pounds since he last saw me on Saturday (I am already too thin, so that's not a good thing).  I am sorry you have to be at work, are there no junior attornys' to give some of your work load to?  That is what my BF does when ever he doesn't feel like being at work :)~~

Anyway, eat something and please drink fluids if you cannot get down food.  I'll stay in touch today.
Big hugs,
C.
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Sweetie, you always manage to put a huge smile on my face and I too was thinking about you this morning also.  I guess great minds think alike eh girl?  I am so sorry that you got upset on the other Forum last night - who needs all that negativity when we are all so desperately in need of positive thinking?  This Forum to me, right now, is my lifeline and sole place of peace, and whenever I get on here, the positivity flows thru me like life's blood.  I am so sorry you had such a bad experience hon.

I see you have the 12-Step experience too, right?  I spent four years in Al-Anon myself (child of an alcoholic) and have been trying to work the principles of that amazing program in my own addiction.  I keep on telling myself "one day at a time", "let go and let God" but it's not that easy when we're on this side is it hon?  I absolutely no for sure that my addiction is setting the mood for me today - that little voice, perched on my right shoulder, keeps on saying "all it would take is one tiny pill and you'll feel like you can climb mountains"!  Bullcrap - who wants to climb a mountain in any dang case - I much prefer flat ground!!!!!  Don't worry sweetie, there's no way, no way at all (mainly because going thru w/d's would literally kill me again).  I promise I will hang tough!

My husband is struggling profusely - he's scared he's going to lose me too.  He's the kind of guy that can't deal with truths and honesties when it comes to 'embarassing' problems.  He was raised military and his father always told him that hard work cured everything.  Yeah, right, course it does.  He was very supportive the first time I came out and told him about my addiction but truly believed I was over it and cannot, cannot accept that I will ALWAYS been an addict for the rest of my life.  He seems to think that just because I am not using, I am not an addict.  He cannot accept the concept that once an addict; always an addict (just a clean one).  Our marriage is the most important thing in both our worlds ~ I couldn't live without him and I believe the feelings are mutual.  I can give him as much space as he needs and when he's ready, he'll be back with those big open arms he's always had.  I feel so responsible for pushing him away and that just breaks my heart.

Good gosh, I have verbal diarreah this morning don't I but guess what, I am already feeling somewhat better.  Bonnie, your a special lady and I so love hearing from you girl.  How's your day going today and tell me how you're feeling physically, mentally, emotionally??  Love and Hugs Honey, Vicky xxx
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Good Morning Lady!

I came in to write to you, and here you are. I am so sorry that you are feeling like s*** today. Day 10-WOW-that's huge!
But this disease, as they say, is: cunning, baffling & powerful!
I don't doubt for a moment that you have genuine aches and pains. They are real!  But, just mull over the possibility that your addicition is talking to you and telling you to take a pill so you will feel better. Sounds crazy, doesn't it? I've been there.
Like I said, the pains are real, but this is a physical, emotional and psycological disease as well.

I wish I could tell yu how long the w/d symptoms will last, but I could not even guess. Everyone's body chemistry is different.
Also, you are under a lot of stress right now. Stress can destroy a person physically. It may be a combination of stress and w/d.
Please, just promise you will hang in there.

I feel so, so bad about hubby. He is having a hard time with all this. I only wish he could go to alanon or naranon meeting and get some understanding of his own feelings and also of what you are going through.
There is not much you can do. Just give him his space. I get the impression that you guys have a good marriage and that this is just a little set-back. Maybe he will take the few days to think and come home with a better attitude and understanding.

I wasn't even going to come on today. I had a real bad night last night on the other forum with bickering and outright fighting. It blew me out of the water. The negativity was everywhere and that is one thing I do NOT need in my life. I shut off the computer last night and sat here and cried for two hours. I told my hubby that I was going to stay away from here because I was so hurt and confused.

Then this morning I was thinking of you so I came on and here you are! Coincidence? I don't think so..lol

I hope your day goes better. Post when you can and let us know how you are doing.
(BTW, you finally said  "Y'all". I've been waiting for that...lol..lol..lol)

Lots of Hugs to you, Bonnie
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I like you last part. That's me too...i always argue with myself and i do it out lout too :)

You know, the opposite is happening to me....i am on day 3....yesterday i had the worst headaches and back pain. I took a claritin for the sinus headache and a fioricet ( without codeine) for the headache as well. Well fioricet is considered a habit forming drug but its not a narc or narc like drug.
After taking the meds, i went out for a walk and then came back and was able to sleep. Today, i have no WD's at all ( except for my back pain which was the reason for the Vicodin). This is so weird. i dunno what happened to me.
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Hey Honey - how are you feeling today?  I'd take that hug in a heartbeat too ~ mind you, your words give me the mental version of that in any case.  I like your advice about today being a new day - it is a new day but, as we all know, some days are harder than others - this is just one of those and tomorrow will be better.  I never dreamed in a million years that you special folks on this Forum would offer me so MUCH.  The minute I get on-line, I feel like I am hosting close friends to dinner and you ALL are so wonderful and just have so much to offer.  Kind words, cyber-hugs and life-saving advice.  I don't even know you people but you're the ones I will look back upon and think "they helped save my butt".  Strange but true. . .thanks to all of you for caring!

I will be on and off here frequently today.  Need y'all more than ever.  I will do my best to eat that banana sweetie.  Hugs to you and have a wonderful day xxxxxxxx
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Even a blank message helps!!  At least I know your there!

Yeah, I thought it kinda strange too and was maybe thinking that because I am so physically exhausted from the hours at work and the stress of withdrawals that maybe something secondary is going on.  The really scary part; my symptoms ares a mirror image of Day 2 and 3 of C/T withdrawals - can you imagine coping with those twice in less than two weeks?  Whoa, too much for this girl to handle right now!  I don't mean to sound like a complete wimp but Day 8 was great and yesterday was nowhere near this bad and today I feel this crappy!!

Someone once told me when I first posted that I "need to be good to myself" - I am not real good at doing this and maybe I need to start right now.  Have made plans to take a vacation day tomorrow and will try and get off work earlier than normal today.  If I can survive 'til then, maybe there's hope?

You guys offer me so much encouragement and even when I am typing I am not thinking about how bad I feel - mind over matter and all that ****, right???

I still have my sense of humor and a desire stronger than anything - am not tempted to take anything narcotic, not even slightly so no worries there!  God, I am one stubborn son of a gun for real (thank the good Lord for small mercies).  Does anyone else argue with themselves constantly??  :-)
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Hi Sweetie,
Just hold on, I am sure part of all the pain is psychological.  You are going through so much emotionally.  I wish I could take you in my arms and give you a big hug!  I am so sorry you are in so much pain, mentally and physically.  I wish I could change and rearrange what is going on with you.  Maybe we all just need to start from scratch, throw away yesterday, today is a brand new day!  You have come so far, don't give up!  It sucks your husband left when you need him so much.  Are you at work?  Try and get some sort of nutrition into your system, ensure, a banana, anything, just chock it down.  Stay hydrated, weak tea goes down easiest.  You have come so far, remember, the pain will not kill you, just make you stronger in the long run.

I have a busy day at work today, but I will be checking in as often as I can.  Have to get in the shower now, talk later, OK
C.
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