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Control overspending?! How?!
As we know, People with bipolar have problems with spending money and have overspending issues. How can I control it specially at this moment? How can I mange my spending?
Any advices according to your experiences.
Any advices according to your experiences.
Are not books on mental health and conditions from other countries worth reading too?
Am I missing something here? He notes it as a problem and a concern. Where am I makng assumptions? I am directing my answer to his description of the overspending problem.
I said it sounds like a shopping addiction. I've distinguishing from overspending from what happens in what happens in bipolar disorder mania. I have no idea what nationality is Mr Why. I just wanted to point out that the author speaks from mostly British perspective. She will use colloquialisms in her humor and stories every now and then. It isn't a dry textbook, She was actually born in the USA and became a naturalized British citizen.
Is Mr Why British?
As for shopping. I frequently do the same thing selectly and I am not addicted to shopping in the least. Everyone is different but we must be careful as to not lable anyone and leave that up to to pscychiatrist.
As for shopping. I frequently do the same thing selectly and I am not addicted to shopping in the least. Everyone is different but we must be careful as to not lable anyone and leave that up to to pscychiatrist.
I have a lay book( written for the general public) to recommend, however, it is written in present day British, slightly American, language and humor (The author is a woman who is a long time entertainer primarily in comedy and acting). She suffers from major depression but she has also achieved becoming a psychotherapist and a major mental health activist and spokesperson in the UK. The book is called "Sane New World: A User's Guide to the Normal-Crazy Mind," by Ruby Wax, first American edition Nov. 2014, (Great Britain publication, 2013). The one I am suggesting is the more "practical" version. It is primarily on depression, but I found that it can be applied generally to other mood disorders, like bipolar depression, and even touches on anxieties and obessive compulsive disorders.
Usually, people don't have a "pure" diagnosis or haven't been touched with other behavioral isssues, Take the overspending problem you have, It sounds more like a shopping addiction. (You described wanting and feeling you have to have it, make a conscious decision to buy, and then, most of the time, feeling buyers' remorse and regret afterwards, At the same time, you feel you have to have it. You have to treat it like an addiction.)
In spending fueled by bipolar disorder, especially, in mania, there is no thinking or no regret along with it, and hardly any thinking or planning involved. It just happens and it just "is." It is like deciding to buy plane tickets and just get there, or thinking to start a business on the spur on the moment and actually renting a storefront, even when you don't have any merchandise to sell yet. O just buying stuff you really don't need, and sometimes, a lot of it, and there is no regret right after you buy it, or no further thought to it,
I would skim through it first, You may want to just skim through the first part, because it is primarily talking about features of depression through her experience autobiographically, with a lot of humor, observations and illustrations. What I like about it is that she shares in general public a general understanding of the brain, brain chemistry, how it is affected by depression, etc. Then how mindfulness treatments and other mental exercises works on the concept of neuroplasticity (the abiility to change the way you think and do things and how it works on the brain -- in what we know so far and can see results and testing. At the time of publication, and from what information she gathered, of course, and in language most of the reading public can understand, in respects to the culture it is written in.)
Prior to the neuroscience chapters, she talks about the bad habits or ineffective coping skills and negative thinking that mental illness, especially depression, makes us really stuck in and see through, It is helpful to recognize those behaviors so you can see what the depression does to you from the outside of you looking in, Also, how outside stuff, like the world we live in affects us, like what you go through at work, family, and people and circumstances in general. She talks about it through herself, but she also expands on it with what she knows and learned through her expertise.
What I like about it, is that it doesn't stop with the understanding of it, It goes on to therapies, treatments and exercises that are helpful to, especially, combating that "big dark cloud" you spoke of, which is depression.
Just to let you know, Mr Why, having trouble reading, concentrating or focusing, and getting tired easy trying to do all those things is part of the mental illness. I found when I was really struggling and the illness was not fully or partially improved by medication, especially when the illness is severe and disabling, it is hard to comprehend anything you read or try to take in and learn. It does affect our thinking process in one way or another, depending on the individual.
I know because my post is long, that you will likely have difficulties and even can't take in half of what I wrote. Forgive me, on that. What I usually do is read again, or over. When I was severely ill, I could only read a sentence, and then, I wasn't sure I understood it. You have to be a little easy on yourself when that happens. Just remember, when you get a bad cold and you don't feel up to doing anything, you just can't do it, so don't beat yourself up and worry about it to make it an "all or nothing" and "global.".
I also know I can write badly in my own language on the forum, So, if you don't understand, I,understand that. I know I don't catch all my own mistakes, and sometimes, I am writing quickly. I just looked over my post twice. There are times when you are able to do what you can do, even when you are really feeling badly. I am also heavily influenced by my culture presently, and I am having difficulty trying to say things for "global," multi-cultural understanding,
Usually, people don't have a "pure" diagnosis or haven't been touched with other behavioral isssues, Take the overspending problem you have, It sounds more like a shopping addiction. (You described wanting and feeling you have to have it, make a conscious decision to buy, and then, most of the time, feeling buyers' remorse and regret afterwards, At the same time, you feel you have to have it. You have to treat it like an addiction.)
In spending fueled by bipolar disorder, especially, in mania, there is no thinking or no regret along with it, and hardly any thinking or planning involved. It just happens and it just "is." It is like deciding to buy plane tickets and just get there, or thinking to start a business on the spur on the moment and actually renting a storefront, even when you don't have any merchandise to sell yet. O just buying stuff you really don't need, and sometimes, a lot of it, and there is no regret right after you buy it, or no further thought to it,
I would skim through it first, You may want to just skim through the first part, because it is primarily talking about features of depression through her experience autobiographically, with a lot of humor, observations and illustrations. What I like about it is that she shares in general public a general understanding of the brain, brain chemistry, how it is affected by depression, etc. Then how mindfulness treatments and other mental exercises works on the concept of neuroplasticity (the abiility to change the way you think and do things and how it works on the brain -- in what we know so far and can see results and testing. At the time of publication, and from what information she gathered, of course, and in language most of the reading public can understand, in respects to the culture it is written in.)
Prior to the neuroscience chapters, she talks about the bad habits or ineffective coping skills and negative thinking that mental illness, especially depression, makes us really stuck in and see through, It is helpful to recognize those behaviors so you can see what the depression does to you from the outside of you looking in, Also, how outside stuff, like the world we live in affects us, like what you go through at work, family, and people and circumstances in general. She talks about it through herself, but she also expands on it with what she knows and learned through her expertise.
What I like about it, is that it doesn't stop with the understanding of it, It goes on to therapies, treatments and exercises that are helpful to, especially, combating that "big dark cloud" you spoke of, which is depression.
Just to let you know, Mr Why, having trouble reading, concentrating or focusing, and getting tired easy trying to do all those things is part of the mental illness. I found when I was really struggling and the illness was not fully or partially improved by medication, especially when the illness is severe and disabling, it is hard to comprehend anything you read or try to take in and learn. It does affect our thinking process in one way or another, depending on the individual.
I know because my post is long, that you will likely have difficulties and even can't take in half of what I wrote. Forgive me, on that. What I usually do is read again, or over. When I was severely ill, I could only read a sentence, and then, I wasn't sure I understood it. You have to be a little easy on yourself when that happens. Just remember, when you get a bad cold and you don't feel up to doing anything, you just can't do it, so don't beat yourself up and worry about it to make it an "all or nothing" and "global.".
I also know I can write badly in my own language on the forum, So, if you don't understand, I,understand that. I know I don't catch all my own mistakes, and sometimes, I am writing quickly. I just looked over my post twice. There are times when you are able to do what you can do, even when you are really feeling badly. I am also heavily influenced by my culture presently, and I am having difficulty trying to say things for "global," multi-cultural understanding,
1. Bipolar Disorder (Second Edition) by Francis Mark Mondimore, M.D.
2. New Hope for people with Bipolar Disorder by Jan Fawcett, M.D., Bernard Golden, Ph.D., and Nancy Roseenfeld
3. the Bipolar Disorder Survival Guide by David J. Miklowitz, PhD
4. Bipolar 101 A Practicle Guide to
Identifying Triggers, Managing Medications, coping with Symptoms, and
More. By Ruth C. White, PHD., MSW and John D Preston, PSY.D., ABPP
I had many more but I gave them to an old Bipolar Group I use to go to that no longer exists.
There are many, many books out there to choose from. Maybe even newer than mine. Look on Amazon Books, they sell new and used books. I have ordered used before and they were in great condition.
2. New Hope for people with Bipolar Disorder by Jan Fawcett, M.D., Bernard Golden, Ph.D., and Nancy Roseenfeld
3. the Bipolar Disorder Survival Guide by David J. Miklowitz, PhD
4. Bipolar 101 A Practicle Guide to
Identifying Triggers, Managing Medications, coping with Symptoms, and
More. By Ruth C. White, PHD., MSW and John D Preston, PSY.D., ABPP
I had many more but I gave them to an old Bipolar Group I use to go to that no longer exists.
There are many, many books out there to choose from. Maybe even newer than mine. Look on Amazon Books, they sell new and used books. I have ordered used before and they were in great condition.
That is great you have some avenues. The more you get the more it will help.
You are certainly right about your last comment.
You are certainly right about your last comment.
I'm already bought many many books related to bipolar but I stopped reading for more than one month due to my new problems.
Also, I try read topics, researches, and others online but everything stopped during last period.
I agree with u bipolar is time consuming. It also destroyed life, homes, and relationships.
Also, I try read topics, researches, and others online but everything stopped during last period.
I agree with u bipolar is time consuming. It also destroyed life, homes, and relationships.
If there is no Therapy than I cannot stress to you enough to buy books specific to your issues and learn from them. There will be no changes if you don't help yourself.
Usually cash but the problem not here. The problem is if I have money I'll spend it ( cash or by card).
Even, if I don't have money I still think what I'll buy and search for something to buy.
Sometimes, I have highly desire to but something and I can't feel ok if I'm not buy it. and may feel worse after I buy it.
It make me feel worse by all ways.
Even, if I don't have money I still think what I'll buy and search for something to buy.
Sometimes, I have highly desire to but something and I can't feel ok if I'm not buy it. and may feel worse after I buy it.
It make me feel worse by all ways.
Your nickname sure correlates well with your personality. MrWhy? Mrquestions lol
Do you usually spend money with a card or in actual cash? I was just picking on you about the question thing. There are certainly a lot of questions that need answers so ask away.
Do you usually spend money with a card or in actual cash? I was just picking on you about the question thing. There are certainly a lot of questions that need answers so ask away.
I can't relate because I have Bipolar but have never overspent.
That being said, I would suggest you avoid stores all together. When you grocery shop keep track of the dollar amount your putting in your cart and have a set amount of money you will spend.
Hope this helps.
That being said, I would suggest you avoid stores all together. When you grocery shop keep track of the dollar amount your putting in your cart and have a set amount of money you will spend.
Hope this helps.
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