They can be degraded if there is too much bacteria (like urine). Also some labs are not considered reliable (sadly, the labs where you can order the ones yourself). Even though they do not instruct to do so, most of us put the samples in the fridge or freezer before sending so they are not out all the time. Some would send overnight but yes, they batch process and I have no idea if they keep them at a stable temperature (cold) or room temp.
My problem was that when I went to the Endo's office, he didn't come in with his computer and of course turned to me and asked if I had them done?? I had them done (I'm very meticiulous when it comes to my testing) one thing I did find out here is to freeze the salivary tests... would you bellive I've been told more than once "Oh they're fine even if I don't refrigerate them ??? I picked the cartridges up at LabCorp and retunred them to Labcorp. could it be because the doc couldn't find the results he made them up?? After all I had a high cortisol test and he said I drank too much liquid. The problem here was that I had one jug that I filled, but there was an overflow, so I put the rest in a tuppperware dish and took it in. The nurse told me I could take that back home, I just about blew up and then trying to explain to her that is why it's called a 24 hr cortisol.. she couldn't get the picture but finally had me go in the bathroom and dump the rest in another jug. THEN when it came back she had listed the amount as being 3750 which had my endo all over me. I had one jug and about 1 cup over. I'm dealing with imbacils ALL the time...The only high cortisol reading, and it can be explained away by an incompetent nurse that probably wrote up 2 jugs full, when it was only a cup over the jug??? Then when I went in at 8 am for my dex blood test.. I was there at 7:45, the door opened at 8, but the nurse never showed up till 8:20 and then messed around for another 20 or so minutes looking for the write up that she couldn't find it, she said, "Oh I'll' just take it and leave it on his desk".??? No wonder he doesn't have any reports, and the reports are being mixed up in volume... They probably just went and dug one up real quick for the salivary and I didn't get a dex test report until yesterday and I was in his office on Dec 22nd?? The dex test reads a <1 I asked him on the way out since he seemed so busy, if he would order anothe MRI, he said something, so when I got to the nurses station, I asked if he was ordering and MRI, she said yes, I asked if it was with contrast, she said she'd go ask the nurse, came back and said no.... I was out of there and called my GP and told him about what just happened, he NO, it has to have contrast. For the acute mental attacks he send me to the Neurologist, but because the old endo reports were in there as Asymtoatic and too small to cause problems, the Neurologist skirted the issue of the pit tumor like the plague and suggested a Psychiatrisit.. I was obsessing. So that is why, when I get up the strength I'm calling my GP and see if he will send me back to my original Neurosurgeon to order x-rays of my brain to see what has developed... since seeing him last I have atrial fib, bordering on diabetes and now acute mental attacks with headaces and light hurts my eyes.. it's weird but the peripheral problem comes and goes, I'v had it twice in about 2 months.. go figure. The only ones I trust right now is my GP and my Neurosurgeon.
Please forgive me, I'm finding it hard to concentrate today and I'm all over the place. Thanks for the advice rumpled...as usual, you're always there to give advice and help.
I am going to insist on a midnight serum cortisol along with my MRI this time, because I just read a lab report that the F24 (midnight serum cortisol)
"UFC would have failed to achieve the correct diagnosis in a significantly higher number of cases than F24" "The prsent data demonstrate that F24 is a reliable test for diagnosis of CS"
And even though my Dex test showed <1 ug/dl, they're stating "A successive study performed in normal conditions of clinical care has shown cortisol supression to be less than 2 ug/dl regrading the Dex results and CS
If that doesn't work, then I'm going to have them do a complete write up of my thyroid. Every symtom I have can actually be quoted under the Hypothyroid Symtom check. I know it is all from the pit tumor, but these dang endo's have to KNOW which hormone and even when they find the right one, they classify it as "oh something must have caused a wrong reading"...If any of you think I'm on the wrong track or have better suggestions.. I'm open for them. My neurosurgeon stated 15 months ago before he was going to do the surgery, that all of my symptoms would reverse themselves after surgery, because if it is not treated and becomes a macroadenoma, then chances of a cure are difficult not to mention the hormone therapy that would be for life. Catch them when they're microadenomas less than 9mm and there's a good chance of receovery, but when they reach 1cm, it's much tougher.
im confused myself on what to ask for. my last cortisol test was urine and was high...idk if i should ask for another urine...i feel the WORST in the mornings.
mornigns for me are 3pm...and i am awake at 5am...no mattah how hard i try to reverse my schedule
I just added a couple of pictures of what I looked like 15 years ago and what I looked like last year... Thanks for all the help, guys!!!