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Suspicious Abnormality on Mammogram
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Suspicious Abnormality on Mammogram

by miztp, Aug 02, 2007 12:00AM
I'm 47 years old needing a breast biopsy. I had a routine mammogram that showed a spot (no lump is felt)and then I had a spot compression with magnification . The findings were:
Presence of cluster of microcalcifications in the left outer quadrant. They are somewhat pleomorphic. Possibility of intraductal carcinoma. Bi-Rads Category 4. Is cancer probable with these findings and a bi-rad 4 ?. What is the % that it's cancer? I just want to be prepared for the biopsy findings.

by Cleveland Clinic, Aug 06, 2007 03:04PM
Dear miztp:  Microcalcifications are small calcium deposits found within the breast tissue. There are different types of microcalcifications, and based on their pattern on the mammogram it gives the radiologist clues as to their cause. For instance microcalcifications that are more scattered are probably due to a benign (non-cancerous) cause, a “cluster” of microcalcifications may increase concern that there may be an underlying tumor. There may or may not be any 'lesion' visible on mammography. However, if the microcalcificantions appear suspicious, further investigation, such as a biopsy, is usually recommended.  A BIRAD category 4 means that there is a suspicious abnormality. Most category 4 abnormalities are benign but may require biopsy since this category can be malignant in 25-50% of cases.  
Member Comments (624)

by Avidhiker, Aug 02, 2007 12:00AM
I had just about the same mammo results as you, BIRAD4. My surgeon (in April of 2006) advised that 15% of these turn out to be malignant--85% are not.  I was one of the unlucky ones, but lucky in that I caught my cancer EARLY.  Good luck!

by japdip, Aug 02, 2007 12:00AM
I believe in the past it has been stated on this Forum that 25 - 50% of BIRAD 4 rating can be something OTHER than a malignancy. Wait for the response from the Professional though which will no doubt be posted tomorrow (8/3).

by Montana girl 06, Aug 02, 2007 12:00AM
To: miztp
I am one of the fortunate ones with 2  biopsies for somewhat pleiomorphic microcalcifications, BIRAD 4 turning out benign. On my report they also wrote "cannot rule out malignancy." They won't know until they do the biopsy if it's cancer or not, but the chances of the calcs being benign are in your favor. I hope you join the benign group.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 02, 2007 12:00AM
To: miztp
My info says 85% of calcifications are benign. But, according to California Pacific Med Center, about one out of four women with calcifications thought to be concerning enough to warrant a biopsy, has a breast cancer, usually at an early stage. This info helps me understand the difference in statistics quoted.

by cyn17, Aug 02, 2007 12:00AM
On my mammo last week a '1.2 cm shadow' is seen that now requires a spot compression and possibly an US. I'm unfamiliar with spot compression...obviously it gives the radiologist a better view than the mammo, but is it used to looked for microcalcs? It's hard not to jump to possible outcomes while I wait. I know you all understand. : )

by Montana girl 06, Aug 03, 2007 12:00AM
To: cyn17
Spot compression takes a closer look at an area that is unclear or suspicious. I believe it refers to a magnified view of a small area. They often use magnified views for calcifications. But sometimes breast tissue folds over on itself causing distortion, calling for more views. It's pretty common to follow up spot compression with magnifications. From that they'll decide if you need a biopsy or possibly the spot compression will clear it up and they'll decide all is fine. Cyn, were you at this site with breast problems some months ago or am I confusing you with someone else?

by cyn17, Aug 04, 2007 12:00AM
To: Montana girl06
It's me. I went through a hellish summer last year which resulted in 3 biopsies (all benign) and a whopping hematoma. : ) Since then, I had an US in Feb on the right breast for 4 cysts (no follow up needed at this time) and a mammo on the left side in May for a new lump (cyst). Now in July, had my yearly mammo for which I got the call back for spot compression. I go in on the 10th. I'm doing fine mentally...just wish I didn't continue needing screenings. In march I also had a biopsy of the lining of my uterus (benign).

I have conflicting feelings about screening...sometimes it feels over done, and yet I'd rather have something caught early. Given the very real fight so many woman are waging against bc puts everything in perspective.

by lcrisp, Aug 04, 2007 04:59PM
To: Anyone that can help
Hello All,

This is my first time being on this site and it has been truly insightful so far. I am a 33 year old female that found a lump in my breast. After the mammogram (VERY painful) and ultrasound, a 1 cm lump was indicated. The ultrasound findings indicate "an area of palpable abnormality 4 cm from the nipple. This is a suggestion there is some enhancement posteriorly suggesting this may represent a complex cyst.Would first advise that attmepted cyst aspiration be obtained and if no fluid is aspirated, core biopsy be obtained subsequently under ultrasound guidance. IMPRESSION; Well defined density in the right breast in the area of palpable abnormality, either representing a complex cyst or solid mass. Suggest ultrasound cyst aspiration be attemped, and if no fluid is aspirated, ore biopsy be obtained. BI-RAD Code 4: suspicious abnormaility - biopsy should be considered."

My biopsy is scheduled this coming Monday and I am very fearful of the outcome. No history of any breast related cancer or any other cancer for that matter in the immediate family. A couple of days after the mammogram, I started experiencing a burning sensation on the opposite side of where the lump is as well as some burning sensation on the other breast (no lumps in the left breast). The burning sensation has not gone away and it's been about 7 days since the testing. I don't know what to think at this point. If fluid is aspirated, then does that mean this is cyst related and not cancer? Why do I feel a burning sensation still?

I am very scared so anyone out there, wish me luck, pray (if you pray) for me and if anyone can answer my questions, i would greatly appreciate any feedback i could get.

Thanks!

by cyn17, Aug 04, 2007 06:02PM
To: lcrisp
I will be thinking of you. What you describe occurs often in women, though I know it's still not easy to go through. I've been through the same procedure many times with benign results for all. I've had complex cysts that both could and could not be aspirated. Stay strong and let us know how it goes for you.

by lcrisp, Aug 04, 2007 07:53PM
To: cyn17
Hi Cyn17,

I appreciate your response and well wishes. This really is a difficult time and the waiting is excruciating! I appreciate you informing me that complex cysts can have the possibility of not being aspirated. I helps me to understand that no matter what, I will have to wait for results. I wonder though..if it is aspirated does it mean it was definitely a cyst or still can't tell. I'm sorry you went through it 4 times! That must have been tough. I too had some abnormalities in the cervix which required me to have cyrotherapy to freeze the abnormal cells out. So far I'm ok there, but what the heck?? How much more can we handle of this stuff? :)

I wish you well on your test on the 10th. I will be thinking of you as well. Sending positive vibes....

by Montana girl 06, Aug 04, 2007 09:59PM
To: Cyn17
Cyn, if it's calcifications they're looking at, is it possible they are a result of your previous biopsies? Are they in the same quadrant of your breast as your previous biopsies? After my 3 benign biopsies I really started questioning my need for more biopsies since they're always in the same quadrant. So now every 6 months I end up having a radiologist read my mammos who says I need a biopsy. Then I ask Dr. Anderson, my preferred radiologist to read my mammos and he always feels the calcs are benign. My surgeon feels Dr. Anderson is more experienced and agrees that after 3 benign biopsies in that area my calcs are probably benign. They still emphasize the need for me to have a mammo and CBE every 6 months because, of course, there is no guarantee that they are benign and feel I need to be watched closely.


I think radiogists are often over cautious, especially if they are inexperienced. But I agree with you that it is important to catch things early. It is stressful to go through this constantly... Are you seeing a breast specialist or general surgeon? Can you go to one of the large teaching hospitals for a second opinion of they suggest another biopsy?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 04, 2007 10:05PM
To: lcrisp
Sorry to hear you have to go through this, too. I usually have pains in my breasts after mammogram and after a very thorough (and painful) CBE. They usually go away little by little. Breast cancer is not usually painful, but it is occasionally. And, remember that a high percentage of BIRAD 4 biopsies are benign. But, you won't know unless you have a biopsy. I know how hard it is to wait for the results. I wish you the best.

by cyn17, Aug 04, 2007 10:31PM
To: Montana girl 06
This new finding is in an area unrelated to the other biopsies. Today while taking a bath, I rubbed soap over the area and I can feel the lump I believe they are concerned with. I have such lumpy breasts that I've begun to rely on mammos and US to catch the lumps, otherwise I'd be at the doctors every few months with concerns. : )

I go to a very reputable hospital in Boulder, CO, with a new cancer center to boot (let's hope I never see the inside of that facility). After the craziness I went through last year, I changed doctors, breast surgeon and facility and have been very happy with my care since the change.

I was reading some else's post from last year stating they've never had a normal mammogram. Neither have I. In the past I thought they were being very conservative because my mother had bc, but reading everyone's experiences, what we're all going through sounds like the norm. Crazy!

by cyn17, Aug 04, 2007 10:39PM
To: lcrisp
lcrisp - If they aspirate your cyst they will check for abnormal cells in the fluid. If they can't aspirate it, it may be a fibroadenoma which they will remove with a core needle biopsy and test the tissue for abnormal cells. So yes, more waiting. In most cases cysts and fibroadenomas are benign.

Also, the burning you feel may be the pressure of the cyst or inflamation (inflammation) of your breast tissue around the cyst. Once it's drained or removed, you probably won't feel the burning anymore.

When do you go in again?

Positive thoughts back at you... : )

by lcrisp, Aug 05, 2007 08:24AM
To: Montana girl 06
I appreciate your input as well. This is a fantastic forum! I have read on a number of different websites that breast cancer is typically not painful. I think though, no matter how much I read it there is always this doubt in my head that I'm one of the few. Anyway, thanks for the well wishes and I also wish you well too. Another lump? Geez...I'm really sorry and hope for the best~

When do you go to find out?

by lcrisp, Aug 05, 2007 08:45AM
To: cyn17
Hi Cyn17,

My biopsy is scheduled for tomorrow, Monday August 6th at 9 a.m. I just hope that since it will be pretty early, it's sent to the lab early and that I have an idea of what I'm dealing with by Wednesday. Also the burning pain I feel is mostly in the right breast but also in the left as well, so I'm thinking that makes sense. It's a little more painful on the right though. Anyway, I will keep you posted and probably check in again tomorrow just to let you know how it goes.

Thanks so much to both of you (Montana girl included) for responding. It has truly helped me feel a little more positive. :)

by Montana girl 06, Aug 05, 2007 09:28PM
To: cyn17
I'm so glad you have a surgeon and breast center you trust. I don't have a true breast center anywhere nearby, but I do have a surgeon and radiologist I trust, so I'm ok with that for now. Where are you in the long process of getting to the bottom of your problem? Are you waiting for results of the spot compression?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 05, 2007 09:37PM
To: lcrisp
Like cyn, I have to rely on mammograms and ultrasound to tell what is normal and what is not in my breast. I have so many lumps I don't know what's a lump, what is scar tissue from previous biopsies, and what is just my regular lumpy tissue. I go every 6 months with my next appt in October.

I hope your biopsy goes well tomorrow. You're in my prayers. Please let us know your results.

by cyn17, Aug 06, 2007 12:37AM
To: Montana girl 06/lcrisp
I don't have the spot compression until Friday, 8/10. Unfortunately I have to travel for business early this week so I had to schedule the follow up for the end of the week. I'll let you know how it goes.

lcrisp - all the best to you in the morning. Please keep us posted.

by lcrisp, Aug 07, 2007 02:33PM
To: cyn17 & Montana girl
Hi Ladies,

I had my biopsy yesterday and the doctor said he was 99.9% accurate that it is a fibroadema. I left there feeling more comfortable then going in. I'm not going to count on this result until I actually see something that says "no cancer." I mean, I guess it is a pretty bold statement for the doctor to say if he wasn't that certain...so I'm hoping for the best. The waiting game is still tough though...

I want to thank you ladies again. You both have been very helpful during this last week.

by Fosterbears, Aug 07, 2007 05:11PM
To: Hello
I had my first mammagram a week ago and they called and said there was an architectural distortion 5 cm and 6 cm from my nipple.  I have to go for another mammagram and ultrasound.  Has anyone ever heard of an architectural distortion ? any advice is great thanks - I received the report and it said it was compared to one from a year ago - I called and told them that I never had a mammagram they said it was a mistake but that the reading was mine.

by cyn17, Aug 07, 2007 10:30PM
To: lcrisp
I'm so happy for you. I think you will receive confirmation that the lump was benign. Yeah!

by lcrisp, Aug 08, 2007 03:00PM
To: cyn17
Thank you. Yes, I should be getting something soon. Thanks again for your encouragement. It is much appreciated!! Now, again, good luck with what's going on with you as well....

by Montana girl 06, Aug 08, 2007 09:02PM
To: lcrisp
It's nice to get news like that at a biopsy to relieve your mind a bit. I hope your days of waiting are a little easier now.

by plkah, Aug 09, 2007 11:01AM
I have to have a biopsy done tomorrow afternoon.  It states in my report from radiology that it it cat 4 but due to the position of calcifications it is unlike to be done stereotactically.  What does that mean?  This all happened to me so fast. Last week I had a right breast implant rupture, went to plastic surg. and she order a routine mammo.  On Monday, after 4 hours and lots of picures at the radiologist, I had a feeling they found something odd.  I am horrified and this has consumed me.  I have looked up biopsy's online and they all talk about the stereotactical ones but what about if you can't have that done, what will they do?  Any help would be appreciated.

by plkah, Aug 09, 2007 11:16AM
To: plkah
BTW, it was a saline inplant. thanks

by Montana girl 06, Aug 09, 2007 10:00PM
To: plkah
They often do stereotactic biopsies for calcifications because it is a less invasive proceedure. However, if your calcs are too close to the chest wall or in an area they can't get, they often do a needle directed biopsy. In this proceedure they take numerous mammograms and insert a long wire in the breast to indicate the position of the calcs. Then a surgen does an excisional biopsy to remove the calcs. I've had both proceedures. The 2nd one takes longer because it really involves 2 proceedures, but neither biopsy was too bad in my mind.

85% of calcifications are benign. Of those suspicious enough to biopsy, only about 25% are malignant, and then they usually are a very early form of cancer or precancer. I've had 2 Birad 4  biopsies for calcs that turned out benign. I know it's alarming, but there's a good chance everything will be fine.

by cyn17, Aug 10, 2007 05:07PM
To: lcrisp and Montana girl 06
The spot compression and ultra sound showed two cysts that don't require any more follow up. Yeah! No biopsy!!

Take care. Until next year...

by boninclyde, Aug 10, 2007 09:42PM
To: cyn17
Even though I have not replied to any of these particular post, I have been watching them. Great news.Time to party.

by JoyGirl, Aug 10, 2007 10:17PM
I just had a diagnostic mammogram and ultrasound for pain in the left breast.  Results were fine for the left, but the right breast showed 8 mm solid nodule with shadows, hypoechoic, and a bi-rad classification of 4.  What is the percentage of malignancies of a classification 4?  Just want to prepare myself.  They said it will be at least two weeks until the stereostatic needle biopsy.  What should I expect from that type of biopsy.
Thanks, I am glad to have found this forum and appreciate any info. you can share.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 10, 2007 11:02PM
To: JoyGirl
I believe the RN here quotes 50-75% of Birad 4 biopsies are benign, but my surgeon told me about 75% are benign. For a stereotactic biopsy they use mammogram (or some use a similar proceedure with ultrasound) to find the area to biopsy. They make a 1/4 inch incision for the needle which I understand can point different directions to take numerous samples. Very, very thin slices of tissue are removed using a vacuum type suction. After the biopsy they do another mammogram to make sure they biopsied the correct area. When you go home you ice the area on and off the rest of the day.

I was numbed up very well for the proceedure but I understand some places don't numb the breast. You might want to check on that. Laying on the table was somewhat uncomfortable even tho they tried hard to make me comfortable. All in all I didn't think the proceedure was too bad. Plan to take it easy the rest of the day, though, and tell your family they need to pamper you. The nurse told me that! Sorry to hear you need to go through the stress of a biopsy, but remember they are very often benign.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 10, 2007 11:07PM
To: cyn17
I'm glad you're clear for another year. You take care, too.

by JoyGirl, Aug 11, 2007 06:54PM
To: Montana girl 06
Thank you for the information.  You really helped me with the information you shared.
It really stinks when you are given a little bit of information and a lot of time to wait.
Thoughts of having CA have been consuming me these past two weeks.
I feel better prepared and more informed now. I have more hope.
I will let you know how it turns out.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 11, 2007 10:49PM
To: JoyGirl
Please do let us know how it turns out. Also, you can get much more detailed info by doing a web search on stereotactic biopsies. Waiting is soooo hard. I'll keep you in my prayers.

by HelenV, Aug 13, 2007 01:38PM
To: icrisp; montana girl 06; cyn17
I posted last week - I am going for an U/S core biopsy on 8/15. Radiologist said it looked like I had a fibroadenoma and scheduled me for a biospy.  I don't have a copy of the report but she didn't look that concerned.  Had to wait 5 weeks.  Freaking out and waiting for the results will be a nightmare.  Hope they can tell me something after the procedure. Hope that's all it is and nothing else.  

by Montana girl 06, Aug 13, 2007 09:24PM
To: HelenV
That is good news that your radiologist doesn't sound overly concerned about the lump. I'm glad to hear the procedure is Wed. so you don't have to wait much longer. I will keep you in my prayers.

by snowtree, Aug 14, 2007 07:02PM
I went to a mammogram on 7/6.  Abnormal results.  I went for the second mammogram of left breast and sonogram during my first day of period (8/14/07) today.  They found a solid something and scheduled me for a needle biopsy of the left breast on the 27 of August at 9:00 a.m..  I have a lot of faith in God.  Please pray for me.  This will be my second biopsy of the same breast.  The first one was done on March of 2003 (my daughter was sent to Iraq during the war)  (My daughter was sent for the second time last November and she is still there).  This will be my second biopsy with my daughter in Iraq, I feel very stressed out due to other things also, I have 4 children and would like to see them married, I am 46 years old.  Once again, please pray for me.  Thank you.

by ckf, Aug 14, 2007 08:37PM

by ckf, Aug 14, 2007 08:42PM
I am 43 years old. Two years ago I had my mammogram and was called back the next day because of calcifications which turned out to be okay I guess. Last year my mammogram was fine. I went on the 9th of August and got a call on the 13 telling me because they have new digital equipment they saw more this time and I have to go back tommorrow for a more magified look. I have to say I am a little more nervouse this time. The last time they were able to get me in that day, this time I have had a couple of days to worry about it. I have been praying that God would help me not to think about it too much. My husband is planning to meet me for the appointment.

by Carealot, Aug 15, 2007 12:53AM
To: cfk
I will pray for you also that you won't think about it too much.

by HelenV, Aug 15, 2007 07:27AM
To: cfk;snowtree
Praying for all as I have my core biospy today at 3:00.  Getting a bit nervous.    Hopefully it is just what the radiologist said it was - a fibroadenoma.

by ckf, Aug 15, 2007 07:55AM
To: anyone
I woke up this morning worried about my appointment today. I can accept anything that has to be done it is just the waiting that drives me crazy. 13 years ago I had my colon removed because of ulcerative colitis and then 3 months later went back to have things hooked back up so I could get rid of the colostomy. I went through a lot but had the support of my church family and my husband and family, my boys were 3 and 5 at the time. They are now 17 and 19.  We have not shared this latest news with anyone as of yet. My mom means well but I have learned not to tell her much until I know more. She would be calling me every hour and make me worry! I am also a very private person, I don't want any attention on me. So I ask anyone that will to pray for me today, I am trying to keep it together, don't want my boys to worry about anything until they have to so we have not said anything to them.  They did tell me that if anything else had to be done it would be done today. Does anyone know what that may be? I know a needle biopsy could be done but would they do that today? Thank you for all of your comments on this forum, it has been helpful already just reading all of them.

by snowtree, Aug 15, 2007 11:34AM
To: ckf, Helen V
Be still and know that I am God, says the Lord.  Nothing will happen to us without Him knowing or alloying it.  The worst that could happen to us is that we would be face to face with Christ in Heaven, wow, we are eternal, if we believe in Jesus Christ as our "ONLY" savior we will never die, in a blink of an eye we are right there in front of Him, how awesome is that!!!  I was called today by the hospital for a second bad news:  I have to see my gyn immediately tomorrow at 11:15, because some results of the pelvis sonogram came back with who knows what, I didn't even asked, so yesterday they ordered a needle biopsy for my breast on the 27th, and today another bad news.  I don't know how, but God has given me this peace inside that feels so good, this tranquility of mind, I too don't want to tell my mom the news, because she suffered cancer of the uterus in 2000, and my grandmother (listen to this) suffered state 4 cervix cancer and lasted 23 more years, lol.  She died of old age, in her 80s.  I have not told a single friend as of yet, but let's see.  I will pray for you today at 3:00, God is in the miracle business and He is the only One in that business, so.  Bless you!!!!  Please, let us know how it went.  A friend in Christ.

by HelenV, Aug 15, 2007 12:11PM
To: snowtree
Thank you so much.  today is a religious holiday in my religion.  Went to church early this morning and said my prayers and I take this as a good sign that I am having my biopsy done on this day. I, too, had a pelvis and transviginal sonogram and MRI that showed an ovarian cyst around 6CM.  Impression was a cystadenoma.  Dr. wants to take it out by regular operation. Going for a second opinion on August 20th to see if it can be done laprascopically.  Will be saying my prayers for you for tomorrow.  I will let you know how everything went tomorrow.

by Brroklyn Girl 7, Aug 15, 2007 03:25PM
I had a mammogram on 7/26/07, On 8/1/07, I recieved a call from my doctors office to make appointment with my breast surgeon.  My mammogram reveal some microcalcifications in clusters in the left breast. It given BIRAD 4. I have been on roller coaster ride since. I saw the surgeon on 8/8/07.  I did my homework and educated myself so it was not much to explain. The unlying factor in my case is the my microcalcifications are caused from fibrocystic left breast condition. The microcalcifications are very faint.  I have constant pain and burning in the breast.  The surgeon request a mamm consult with another radiologist and a followup biospy.   Another mammogram may be done since the first mammogram was done while I was wearing deorderant. I wonder how much does this affect the mammo film.  I forgot to remove the deorderant and cream from my breast before doing the mammogram.

Comments on this welcomed.

by ckf, Aug 15, 2007 04:43PM
To: snowtree
thank you for your prayers today. I went for my mamogram (mammogram) and was just told to come back in 6 months. I know that means they don't want to do anything further now but not sure why I have to go back in 6 months instead of 12 months. Makes me wonder what they are wanting to watch. I know I shouldn't worry, I will get my results in the mail in a couple of days, I guess someone just looks at it quickly while I am there. I do feel relieved that nothing else had to be done today.
I will continue to pray for you.

by snowtree, Aug 15, 2007 07:05PM
To: ckf
Congratulations!!!!!  You see, everything was fine, I wouldn't worry about the 6 month return, since I've been told to come back in 6 months for the last 4 years, only that I've been bad and the last time I had a mammogram previous to this one of 7/6 and 8/14 was February 2005.  If they told you to go back in 6 months I would do it, is better to be on the safe side, mammograms are not bad for you, but waiting is. I will let you know what they tell me tomorrow.  Thanks for praying for me.  God Bless!

by snowtree, Aug 15, 2007 07:28PM
To: Broolyn Girl
I read that usually when you have a mammogram with deodorant on the films can't be read correctly.  I wonder why they didn't get a birad 0 instead of a 4.  I don't really know, but I would absolutely have another mammogram to know better, who knows, maybe the deodorant had something to do with all the microcalcifications showing, hope to God that this is what happened.  I had BIRAD 4 on March 2005, and don't really know what they found since the hospital has those films at the moment, but I think it was the microcalcifications also.  My biopsy came back negative, at that time I had to wait about two weeks for the results, I know, too long, but the results were happy ones.  When are you have the follow up biopsy?  Please, let us know, I will be praying on that day and time for you, promise.  A friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 15, 2007 07:31PM
To: Brooklyn Girl
Wrong info. I had a biopsy on March 2003 (correction).

by Montana girl 06, Aug 15, 2007 09:02PM
To: snowtree
snowtree - I'm sorry you have to deal with another biopsy and will keep you in my prayers.

ckf - I also went from film to digital mammography this year and was told I needed a biopsy by the 1st radiologist. I asked another radiologist to read it and was told the changes in my calcifications were due to the clearer picture on digital. At the same time, I was asked to come back in 6 months to be sure. My understanding is that it is very difficult to compare film to digital. I hope your problem is nothing more than the clearer picture with digital.

Helen - Please keep us posted. I hope all went well today.

Brooklyn Girl - It is stressful, but remember that 85% of microcalcs are benign.

Sorry to hear about the additional health problems so many of you have. You are all in my prayers.

by HelenV, Aug 16, 2007 06:33AM
To: snowtree;montana girl 06; ckf and others
Thank you so much for your prayers.  I went yesterday for my biopsy.  Thought it was going to be a core biopsy but they did a fine needle biopsy.  Had the same radiologist who read my mammo and ultrasound back in July.  I was glad about that.  Pathologist was in the room and was given the samples and prelim results are benign fibroadenoma.  It has cells around it and they said surgeons recommend removal of the fibroadenoma as cells tend to grow fast.  I was lucky enough to be able to see a surgeon after the biopsy.  I will schedule to have it removed after doctors appointment on Monday for ovarian cyst.  

Snowtree - please let us know how everything went yesterday.  

ckf - wonderful news.

by snowtree, Aug 16, 2007 06:57PM
To: HelenV
You are very blessed that the pathologist was in the room, because usually they are not, just the fact that you didn't have to wait for that result.  Is better if you have it removed, I would do the same.  What are they doing to your ovarian cyst?  Are you having another sonogram?  Well, I will be praying on the 20th for you.  Remember, prayers move mountains.  A friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 16, 2007 07:11PM
To: Montana girl
Thank you for your concern.  I didn't know about the clearer picture in the digital films, but that makes me feel good, because when I was called by the hospital yesterday I thought it was really bad news, well the gyn told me that the pelvis sonogram was abnormal as well, but thanks to God and the prayers I received from my friends in Christ in this forum I also had good results:  No infection of any kind and the thickening of the lining of the uterus will be checked again when I get my next period, they want to do the sonogram with the period (yes, embarrassing), but.  Anyways, see how things happen, I took advantage of the situation and explained to the gyn that I would like to wait 6 months for another mammogram and sonogram instead of a needle biopsy.  She thought about it and suggested that I speak to a surgeon on monday the 20th, because the solid mass that I have in my left breast grew from 7 to 8, but you cleared my mind, it could be the digital machine.  Well, I want to believe that, if not I still love God the same and thank you all for your prayers.  My prayers go to you as well, and congratulations to you for been so informed.  Are you taking vitamin E and Primrose?  I take vitamin E 400 i.u., but I will start taking 800 i.u. and Primrose this coming week.  Well, so long for now.  A friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 16, 2007 07:17PM
To: Montana girl
When I said I take vitamin E 400 i.u., you must be saying, well so what, she still has a solid mass, well let me explain.  The doctor that did my biopsy of March 2003 told me to please take this vitamin, because it was very good for the breast, he told me it doesn't take cancer away, I mean what is he going to say, he is not God, but he kind of told me that it crushes tumors, I mean he said, it helps.  He didn't have to speak one more word, I got the message.  You know sometimes doctors don't want to give you too much info, but when you are really sweet and nice to them, they will, I always respect my doctors a lot, but I also ask God to put words in their mouth that I will understand.  Anyways, I wanted to get this clear.  bye.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 16, 2007 07:49PM
To: Helen
How nice to have the pathologist right there! Sorry to hear you need another proceedure, but I'm glad they think it's a fibroadenoma.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 16, 2007 07:59PM
To: snowtree
When I wrote about the clearer digital picture I was referring ONLY to the change in calcifications. I really don't know how digital affects masses, so please don't use my info for your masses. With calcifications, digital, compared to film, can make it appear there are more when in reality it could be the diference in technology. I'm glad you are going to see a surgeon about your mass. If there is change in a mass they probably do need to do a biopsy. Actually, I started taking vitamin E ,  Evening Primrose Oil, and magnesium to help with my night sweats and hot flashes. It seemed to help for awhile, but they were really bad again this summer. (That could be because it was a hotter than usual summer here.) Then I read it helps with fibrocystic breasts, also, so it actually helps in 2 ways. It hasn't changed the lumps already in my breasts, but hopefully it will keep others from forming. Let us know how your appt with the surgeon turns out.

by JoyGirl, Aug 16, 2007 08:44PM
To: Brooklyn Girl;
I have heard that the aluminum in the antiperspirant can mimmick calcifications in the breast.  I also read a book several years ago that said in cultures where they don't wear antiperspirant (which contains aluminum, deodorant doesn't, if it is a combination product that contains antiperspirant and deodorant, then it does contain aluminum), anyway, in those cultures that don't wear antiperspirants and underwire bras, they find VERY few cases of breast cancer.  I have known this for years, but after my mammogram/ultrasound with a BI-RADS 4, I went right to the health food store and bought a deodorant without antiperspirant and am planning to ditch the underwires.  It is just not worth it.  I have a friend whose fibroids in her breasts went away after she stopped wearing underwires. She used to have them drained every 4 - 6 weeks because they would fill with fluid.  It has been over a year now that she has given up the underwires, and says she would never go back.
Food for thought.

by boninclyde, Aug 17, 2007 08:51AM
I don't take the vit E or the primrose but will ask the doctor about it. I switched my milk to organic milk (no hormones, no antibiotics), I buy every thing organic now that I can get my hands on. I can't tell the difference. I also changed deoderant. Arm & Hammer make a deoderant that is aluminum free and paraben free. I love the new deoderant. Just my thoughts.

by snowtree, Aug 17, 2007 09:09PM
To: Montana girl, JoyGirl and boninclyde
Hi to all and thank you for your wise comments.  I will tell you a story:  On Feb. 2005 I was told by a hospital that I needed a needle biopsy of my right breast because of a cluster of things they found, well I told them NO WAY!!!!!!! due to the fact that other hospitals had found the same thing all the time and came to a conclusion that it was a rare mole inside my breast.  I didn't hear the end of it, the radiologist told me that NO!!!! it was not a mole and that I needed to biopsy it, well I left mad, acting like a little girl and went to cry out to my husband and told him that if the hospital called me again to tell them not to call me anymore in a mad voice, my husband followed my ignorant advise and did exactly as I told him, but not without a fight, he told me if I didn't care about my 4 kids or him, well I told him I did, but to respect my decision.  End of story.  On 7/6 2 years and 5 months later I went to another hospital for a mommo and they found nothing in the right breast, but a solid mass in the left measuring 8 from 7 in 1998, 99 2000, 01. 02. 03 biopsy for it (benign, thank God!!!!), then I skipped to 2005 (nothing on left breast, but something on right), ok, on monday 8/20 I will go to a breast surgeon and ask her straight into her eyes:  Do I reeeaaally have to have this biopsy on the 27th of August or can I wait 6 mo. for a repeat mammo and sonogram????  I will explain my case just like I did to you.  What is going on?  What happened to my left mass in Feb. 2005?  What happened to my mole in 7/6 and 8/14?  Guys, you have to ask and ask, never give up, and always trust the Lord, he gave us a mouth to use it in the right way, he gave us brains to find information, I will fight this fight to the end.  Well let you know how it went on monday.   A friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 17, 2007 09:37PM
To: Montana girl, JoyGirl and boninclyde
Will explain better:  1998 (solid mass measuring 7 on left breast)    1999 (solid mass measuring 7 on the left breast)     2000 (solid mass measuring 7 on the left breast and a cluster of something on the right breast)    2001 (solid mass measuring 7 on the left breast and a cluster of something on the right breast appearing to be a rare mole)     2002 (solid mass measuring 7 on the left breast and a cluster of something on the right breast appearing to be a rare mole)  2003 (solid mass measuring 7 on the left breast and a cluster of something on the right breast appearing to be a rare mole inside of breast)  NOW THEY SENT ME TO A NEEDLE BIOPSY OF MY LEFT MASS, BIRAD 4  [NEGATIVE, BENIGN RESULTS] THANK GOD!!!!!!!!  NOTICE HOW THEY NEVER SENT ME TO A BIOPSY OF MY RIGHT MOLE? Well, I skipped 2004 (tired of it all), then on 2005 I said to myself: this is not a wise decision, let me try again.  2005 (cluster of something on right breast appearing to be a solid mass or calcification, but immediately needs to be biopsied), when the girl did the sonogram on my right breast she opened her eyes as if she saw something weird and seemed worried, and I was calm, thinking to my self: let me see what they say, then everything began.  Go forward to 7/6 2007 abnormal mammogram of solid mass measuring 8 instead of 7 this time.  Go again for more mammos and a sono of left breast on 8/14, sent to a needle biopsy on the 27th.  Going to see a surgeon on the 20th, we'll see.  Oh, did I mention that on 8/14 also I had a pelvis sonogram inside and out, well abnormal also, but my gyn explained to me that due to having big twins (8 pounds 4 oz. the boy and 6 pounds 9 oz. the girl) my uterus measured 11 instead of 8, and that I had thickening of the lining of my uterus, so she will wait for my next period and that I have to go on my fourth day, blood and everything to repeat the test, and that if is still thick she will send me to a biopsy of the uterus.  When is all this going to end.  My mother had cancer of the uterus in 1999 (survivor) paternal grandmother had cancer of the cervix (died 23 years later of old age, she was advanced in her cancer and had needles put inside of her, I guess with chymotherapy, well she was also a survivor, you see God does miracles, He is a awesome God.  Bye.                                

by maa64, Aug 18, 2007 08:45AM
To: montana girl, 06
I just came from my biopsy and the radiologist told me that I have cancer. They are doing the biopsy though he said even if it does turn out benign they still would remove the abnormal cells. The first radiologist didn't say anything there was a chance of cancer this radiologist sat me down before the biopsy and told me 3 out 4 biopsies like mine turn out to be cancerous. When I started crying he seemed taken aback and surprised that the first radiologist didn't tell me this. I just wasn't prepared to get the results before the test. I go Wed. for my results. What type of questions should I be asking? I asked if I would be getting a lumpectomy he said no you will have breast surgery. What is the difference? I wish to be educated and be active in my recovery. Thank you.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 18, 2007 04:45PM
To: snowtree
You're right, a lot of these biopsies turn out benign. That is the good news. Unfortunately, unless they do a biopsy they don't know if the suspicious area is benign or malignant. They just can't tell the difference through mammo and us. That means many of us will have benign biopsies, but it also means many will have their cancer caught at an early stage where it is easier to treat and has a better survival rate. I put my faith in God, also. And, after having benign biopsies myself, I always get a second opinion when they say I need a biopsy and try to avoid it if possible. But, I also believe God gave us these doctors and surgeons  to help us with our medical problems. I try to find a doctor, surgeon, and radiologist I trust, pray God will give them wisdom, discuss my concerns with them, and make a informed decision based on their suggestions and  my own research.

So, what are they recommending for the suspicious calcs or mole or whatever in your right breast this year?  or has it disappeared?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 18, 2007 04:58PM
To: maa64
There are probably a lot of women who could better answer your questions. I don't have cancer, so I am not as informed on this. I'm very sorry to hear you had the rug pulled out from under you at the biopsy, as if the biopsy isn't stressful enough. Also, the lab work has not been done, so how can he tell you it is cancer? His experience is probably telling you it's cancer, but you need to wait for the lab work to find out for sure. When he said you need breast surgery rather than lumpectomy I'm guessing they would removing a larger area than they would for a lumpectomy. Also, I really think he's jumping the gun. How can he say all this BEFORE THE LAB RESULTS? Pathology will determine how large the area to remove will be, NOT THE RADIOLOGIST .

First, I would ask for a copy of the pathology report. Have the doctor explain everything you don't understand. Ask how large an area would be removed at the surgery, if you need to take extra days off work, what limitations you'll have after surgery, etc. Also ask if/what other treatment might be necessary. You didn't say what the biopsy was for...lump or calcifications, or both.  Let us know more about what the biopsy was for and your lab results. I will keep you in my prayers.

by maa64, Aug 18, 2007 06:19PM
To: Montana girl 06
I was completely blown out of the water when he drew a picture of my breast and put a cluster of abnormal cells on the paper and said that is where the cancer is located. When the shock registered on my face that he said cancer, I started crying. That was when he questioned whether or not the other pathologist told me it was cancerous. He said the cells, the amount, the abnormality, the fact that they weren't there last year pointed to cancerous. He said he had six similar mammograms last week and only one was benign. I kind of went into a daze after that, my mind had to wrap around cancer and my mind went to how to tell my husband and kids. He told me 3 out 4 mammograms like mine turn out to be cancer. He said even if it is benign they will remove the cells, they can't leave them in because they are too suspicious. I was first told they were calcifications. I had two sites that cells were extracted and I had a hematoma, I am really sore. Do you know how soon they would do the surgery? I will have a chance to heal first? I go in this Wed. If they are removing the cells anyway why did I have to have the biopsy, why not move into the surgery? Thanks for the questions I am writing them down.

by Marsha1, Aug 18, 2007 06:44PM
To: Everyone
My wife was recently diagnosed with DCIS in the right breast.  She is 65.  She is cool, calm and collected about it all.  I, however, am the worrysome husband.  She has surgery scheduled next week.  I am not sure about the procedure but the area in question is microscopic and that a small metallic marker was placed in that locaton when they removed the microcalcification during a stereotactic biopsy.  The surgeon mentioned something about a wire being inserted that will surround the target area and that the tissue within that area will be removed.  Our understanding is that one milk duct is involved and that the area around that duct will be removed.  The objective, of course, is to remove any malignancy that may be present.  He will also check the lymph system to ensure that nothing has moved to those nodes.  I am hoping that someone out there who has knowledge of this procedure can answer the questions that I don't even know to ask.  We don't know if radiation will be required but the surgeon does not believe that chemo will be necessary.  I am also wondering if tamoxifen is the prescription of choice or if there are other drugs that have proven to be effective.  I also understand that my wife will be at an increased risk of having a reccurrence of this condition in the future which makes me wonder if radiation should not be considered as a proactive measure to reduce that risk or if radiation is only used as a reactive measure.  Any information that any of you can provide will be appreciated.  Thanks a bunch

by Montana girl 06, Aug 19, 2007 09:44PM
To: maa64
I'm not sure why they did a needle biopsy if they know they need to do an excisional biopsy. Maybe they feel the needle biopsy will give them info on how much tissue to remove during the 2nd biopsy. I'm also unsure of how long they'll wait for the next biopsy. I hope someone with experience in that will answer your questions. I have a question for you. What Birad rating did they list on your radiology report? Again, I'm so sorry you're going through this and hope you can get your questions answered better.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 19, 2007 09:54PM
To: Marsha 1
I'm so sorry to hear your wife was diagnosed with cancer. She's very fortunate to have a supportive husband. I'm guessing they will take mammograms to locate the marker and insert the wire before surgery. It's two separate proceedures which makes it longer than a biopsy alone, but as long as she is numbed up well it shouldn't be too bad. I don't know about radiation and follow-up treatment. I do know there is another drug similar to tamoxifen that has fewer side effects but am not sure what it is called. I agree it is good to be informed. If a doctor does recommend tamoxifen it would be good for you to be able to ask about the side effects and what other choices are available. I wonder if you did a search on "tamoxifen substitutes" if you could come up with the info. Another idea is to post your questions at www.breastcancer.org.  You would probably get more replies from women who have been through this before.

by ziggy123, Aug 20, 2007 06:53AM
To: Marsha 1
Montana Girl is right on the money with her description. This time last year, I had the exact same procedure as your wife. This is done because the area is very small and difficult to detect. My DCIS measured 3mm. I went to the hospital early in the morning. After check-in, I went to radiology where the radiologist  used my magnified x-rays as well as the marker to guide in wires to define the area to be removed. I did not feel a thing. Then it was onto surgery for the lumpectomy.
Everything that needed to come out was removed w/the lumpectomy. I was very lucky and had clean margins, meaning that there was no malignancy in surrounding tissue. I was surprised by the amount of my breast that was removed. Even though my DCIS was 3mm they removed tissue bigger than the size of a golf ball. They want to make sure! I did not have lymph nodes removed/tested. My DCIS did not warrant chemo.
Also due to the small size my surgeon did not want to use radiation. This is due to the fact that once you radiate an area you can not do it again. I did see an oncologist to discuss tamoxifen. He did not feel that it was necessary in my case as in his opinion my chances of havng any spread were only slightly higher than if I never had cancer at all. On that basis and due to the possible side effects I opted not to take it. But this is something that needs to be determined by a variety of factors and once your wife's surgery is over you will have a better sense for the best course of action. I hope this helps you understand a little better the procedure. If I can help in any other way, let me know and I will try.
My prayers are with you and your wife. I admire her courage and your suport for her.

by snowtree, Aug 20, 2007 01:22PM
To: maa64
Well, let me tell you that I have you in my prayers from now on, I pray to God that everything will be just fine.  Do you believe in miracles?   I dooooo!!!!!!  I've had miracles done to me, that if I tell you probably you won't believe, from kitches appliances to bee able to sell an ugly house in 40 days, I mean, please believe.  Today I went to the breast surgeon to see if I could return in 6 months for a mommo or to see if I really had to go to a biopsy on monday, then she asked me questions, examined my breast, and felt something there on top of my nipple where the solid mass is.  She told me that yes, that I have to have a biopsy, because if it was cancer, she would be able to cure it now instead of 6 months, she told me to be happy that I take care of myself and to have faith, I smiled and said "if you knew how much faith I have", she talked straight out and told me that usually if you are under a lot of stress the hormones can make old cysts and masses or whatever it is to come back again.  Well, all I tell you is to be happy that today you are okay and doing the best you can.  TOMORROW IS ONLY IN THE CALENDAR OF FOOLS, today is our day, you are making the best of it, you are doing good, be still and know that I'm God, says the Lord.  So long and be blessed.

by snowtree, Aug 20, 2007 03:04PM
To: Montana girl
Thank you for your concern.  The surgeon was checking my breast today, and I told her exactly everything that I told you, but she said that sometimes those solid mass come and go, depending on different things:  stress, hormones, worry, I know is true, because my ex pastor's wife had a fibrosis in the pelvis or uterus, not sure for 12 years, she neglected herself I guess, than my pastor died and she died in within a year, you see I guess stress is very bad.  The surgeon told me to take it easy, and to take care of myself, even though I have so much faith, that I have to be pro-active in my health.  Well, the right breast's mole, she didn't say much, but she felt like a small thickening under that same breast, but told me not to worry, because sometimes that is common in women over 40, I'm 46.  Thank you again.

by snowtree, Aug 20, 2007 03:19PM
To: Marsha 1
What can I say, with a husband like you I'm sure she'll survive, you don't know how much you help her by caring, maybe that is the reason she is cool, calm and collected.  She feels like she is in a cool, dry place with you.  My husband cares too, to the point that he told me the other day that if something would happen to me he will give up on life, I lol and told him, oh come on I know you'll find a young, pretty girl and marry her, well he wasn't kidding I guess, because he's been pretty sad and very quiet lately.  He is usually quiet and with a hurricane category 5 attitude, but I try not to tell him too much, not more than he should know.  Please, tell your wife that you have positive feelings about her situation, because we suffer too when we see that our husband loves us so much, weird right?  Well, good husband, God will listen to your prayers, because He says in the bible that if a husband is rude or mean to his wife God will not listen to their prayers, you have the confidence that He will listen.  Ask in Jesus name and you'll see.  Thank you so much for been one of the few good husbands out there, once again is lovely to read from a man in this forum.  You got 100 in my report card.  Blessings to you and your wife.

by maa64, Aug 20, 2007 04:38PM
To: snowtree & montana girl 06
I appreciate all prayers thank you. I have really been refreshed by this site. It is great to see so many good reports. I, too, had a hematoma and I am just so ignorant of this and what is happening to my body. The hematoma really hurt. I can't tell you how reassuring it is to be able to read that someone else went through all of this. My Birad rating was a four. Also I had no idea that I could have someone else look at the mammogram and get a second opinion about the biopsy. I am learning a lot and rather quickly. I will be able to help so many women who go after me. I just wish to thank everyone for their insight and yes snow tree I do believe in miracles. I believe that all things work together for good to those who love Him. I leave myself in His hands.
I am waiting for my results on Wed. It is great to have hope again after reading all that is posted on this site. Thanks for taking the time to reassure others and enlighten others of their options and give advice.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 20, 2007 06:19PM
To: maa & snowtree
You both sound like very strong women spiritually, and emotionally. That will help get you through all of this. I'll continue to keep both of you in my prayers.

by HelenV, Aug 21, 2007 12:09PM
To: snowtree;montana girl 06; ckf and others
Helen V here - I have scheduled the removal of my fibroadenoma for 8/31. didn't realize that Monday is labor day and no work so i have the weekend and extra day to recuperate.  going in tomorrow for the lab work.  Also went yesterday for my 2nd opinion on my ovarian cyst. She said she can remove it laprascopically.  My doctor said he couldn't do it that way because it was too big.  It is 6cm, almost 7cm.  Will be going in for another sonogram on 9/20 - this way it will be 3 months since it was first diagnosed and she will have a better idea of what's going on.  Wanted to do it yesterday but she said it was too soon. And I will be changing doctors.  Glad I went for the 2nd opinion.

Snowtree - good luck on the 27th.  Please let us know what happens.

by Dragonfly333, Aug 21, 2007 01:06PM
To: maa & snowtree
You can add my prayers to those of the good people on this site. Also, you will be in my intentions each time I attend Mass and receive Holy Communion: All our hope is in the Lord who is Love and Mercy.

Would you also pray for me? I have two densities on my latest mammogram and return for spot compression mammo this Thursday, 8/23.

Another friend in Christ.



by a.june, Aug 21, 2007 02:05PM
I was told that I have 4 clusters of pleomorphic calcifications, ACR BI-RADS category 5, will have a biopsy on the 28th, I had to wait 10 days as I was taking Plavix.  Is anyone familiar with Pleomorphic calcifications.  The radiology report did not sound to promising.

by Rosie814, Aug 21, 2007 03:04PM
Pleomorphic refers to the shape, which makes them more suspicious.  There's no way to know without a biopsy though.  If you want a better answer from one of the medical pros, you could start a new question.  They only take a couple a day though so you might have to try at various times. I've found I have the most luck getting my question in early in the a.m.

Good luck to you.

by a.june, Aug 21, 2007 03:07PM
To: Rosie814
Thank you so much, I think you answered my question

by Montana girl 06, Aug 21, 2007 09:26PM
To: Dragonfly & a.june
Dragonfly - Hopefully the spot compression will clear up the questions and find a bengin area.

a.june - One thing about calcifications is that if they are cancerous, they usually indicate an early, very treatable cancer. Sorry you have to go through this.

I will keep both of you in my prayers.

by snowtree, Aug 22, 2007 11:47AM
To: Helen V
Today I'm answering each one of you  little by little, because I am having a headache that is making me insane.  Helen V, I will be praying for you first thing in the morning on August 31st for the removal of the fibroadenoma to go 100% excellent.  Just make sure that you have enough rest and don't lift anything, let the house go.  Now that we are all going through this, doesn't everything look unimportant?  Also, about the ovarian cyst, that is good that you are going again on the 20 of September, because remember,  miracles could happen from now to then.  Pray for them!!!  Well, so long for now and God Bless You always.  A friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 22, 2007 12:02PM
To: All
It doesn't matter what you do do, if you don't do what you have to do.  Don't tell God how big are your problems, instead tell your problems how big is your God.  lol.  Let me give you a little info in how I've been since 1992.  Yes, 15 years of me.  I am a minimalist in my exterior.  Meaning, I do not like or enjoy material possessions at all, I've been trying the last 15 years of my life to get rid of as many things as I could.  But, I live with 3 children and a husband (daughter is in Iraq) that are one of the most materialistic people you could ever meet.  Sometimes I ask God, why?  why?  Material possessions only give you limited, temporary happiness, if you can call it that.  Beside my passion for Christ, my other passion  is to live with less and less everyday, weird huh?  I wish I'd be a minimalist inside too, I mean, sometimes I eat a lot, I'm a little overweight, but not too much, I suffer when my house is dirty or untidy, because been a minimalist everything, even a little bit of clutter looks like the end of the world to me, so I'm a little bit demanding is that sense.  You would think that my other passion would be my husband and children, well they are, I love them very much, but of course, that is not even questionable, even though I feel like they are too much for themselves, is either the t.v., computer or the phone the passion of my children, my husband's (he say is me), but I say are other things.  Well, today I woke up with a headache and also with my addiction to minimalism to an extreme, I went to the maintenance guys that work where I live and gave them a bunch of stuff, yes, my family will get really mad at me later in the afternoon, but frankly, I feel so happy inside, the frankly my dear.  Who gives a ****? lol.  The best to all of you, once again, and out of the bottom of my heart, God Bless all of you and may you have the peace that Christ gives, not the one that the world gives, the one that He gives is the one that make you strong when you are the weakest.

by snowtree, Aug 22, 2007 12:13PM
To: Dragonfly 333
Hi, thank you for joining us in praying for one another.  I hope that everything goes well on the 23rd, just remember not to wear deodorant or talc or anything else on that breast, even though they could give you wipes to remove things, don't be scared.  Are they doing a sonogram also?  Let us know.  God Bless.

by snowtree, Aug 22, 2007 12:18PM
To: All
Actually the four asterisks do not mean a bad word, is a word that means a bad word, but in a decent way.  I mean, a word that can be used instead, but it doesn't offend anybody.  Just to get that clear.  So long.

by snowtree, Aug 22, 2007 12:26PM
To: a. june
Sorry that they found four clusters in your breast, but let me tell you that you came to the right forum, we are here to support you, and to pray for you.  Do not cross the bridge until you get there, ok.  Those were the words of my breast surgeon, I also have to go to a biopsy a day before you, my doctor told me that I could take something to make me a little sleepy if I want to, due to the fact that I have problems breathing (nothing wrong with me in that sense), is just that I hyperventilate due to been a mouth breather, I guess.  I had one before and it didn't hurt whatsoever, but just food for thought.  Last week when I went to the hospital for consultation, almost everybody that was having a test too a calming pill, I don't know if you have any or could take it, please ask your radiologist before the biopsy if you want, if not go ahead and trust me, you don't even feel the needle, at least I didn't (without a pill).  A friend in Christ.  Will remember you and pray for you on tuesday.

by snowtree, Aug 22, 2007 12:31PM
To: Rosie 814
Good advice, we need people like you that is informed.  Thank you for caring for a.june.  Please, keep giving good info, we all need it.  Bye.

by snowtree, Aug 22, 2007 12:39PM
To: Montana girl
You make us feel better with your positive input, you are also very informed, we need people like you to lift our spirit, I sometimes am very down, we are all humans, some Christians, some not, I believe that if it wasn't for my faith I would be down all of the times, but God gives me reasons to wake up everyday, remember, He gives us grace for today, not tomorrow, tomorrow will be today tomorrow.  ???!!!!  Like I said before Tomorrow Is Only In The Calendar Of Fools, I heard that from Chip Ingram (pastor), I listen to Oneplace.com everyday, different pastors, different topics.  A friend in Christ.

by a.june, Aug 22, 2007 01:12PM
To: all
Thank you all for your support.  I believe in the power of prayer.  I had a radical mascetomey when I was 35.  I know that they have came a long way- I am now 65.  
snowtree, let me know how you did, and you are right, I should not try to cross a bridge that is not yet there.

by JoyGirl, Aug 22, 2007 03:00PM
To: Montana Girl
Just wanted to let you know that I finally got an appointment for the biopsy, it is Friday.  I should have the results Monday and will keep you posted.  Thanks for your support!!!

by Montana girl 06, Aug 22, 2007 10:20PM
To: All
Please do post your results. It helps the others that come to the site to hear how the proceedure went and your results. I will pray for you all.

by snowtree, Aug 23, 2007 07:07AM
To: JoyGirl
Is it this friday the 24th?  Well, I'm glad you got the appointment, and you'll see how we are all going to go through this, and probably forget it in the future.  I tried to post comments to you, but every time that I would write JoyGirl it would only take the Jo, don't know what happened, but it was twice that did it.  My computer is kind of old and it acts up a lot, plus I am very ignorant about them, I just know a little, I should take some classes, lol.  Anyways, are you doing good with your new deodorant from the health food store?   And did you get rid of all your underwire bras?  You have a good point in that, actually my friend did the same, specially the amount of deodorant that come out of those things, sometimes is a lot, I try to scoop a little out with a piece of napkin, but still, I wonder if I am putting on more than I'm supposed to.  About the BIRAD 4, I had that in 2003, and it was benign, so don't worry too much about that, there are a lot of BIRAD 4 out there that are benign, my surgeon told me that, I also have a 4, going for my biopsy on monday, I am still considering taking a chill pill before or not, one minute I say no and the next I say yes, my husband don't help, he takes a chill pill for everything and anything, sometimes he takes it even when he doesn't need it, NOT GOOD.  I,m actually not afraid at all, so I think, because I'm going through a lot of personal other issue problems, I am actually worried about court dates, jail time, bond setting, and gps in the leg of my19 year old son.  Just to say a little, he has a almost 15 going on 40 year old girlfriend, he is 19 going on 14, so her family decided that they were going to go after him, due to the law, even though they love each other to death the law considers it wrongful.  Actually, it was all too nasty and frustrating, just to say one more little detail:  My son is a personal trainer and sometimes he is liked by mothers that are 40 somethings thinking they are 21 and sometimes those mothers are envious and jealous of their daughters.  Anyways, I don't really want to say more, due to the fact that this is all in court, has cost us a lot of money, stress, and just the fact that Jesus tells us to pray for our enemies, that's what I've been doing, but truly I think that is the hardest thing the word of God tells us to do, but it works.  When you pray for your enemies, you actually are praying for you, because this is the way I put it, God knows their hearts and He knows yours, at the end you obeyed Him by praying for the enemy and He will do justice and handle the enemy Himself (I've seen things happening to people that have done bad things to others,  that I would never want to be in their place a second of my life, and the people that they have done the bad thing to they have prayed for them, just like Jesus say.  Food for thought.  Well, I will be praying for you tomorrow, so I need to know if it is tomorrow or the other friday.  Waiting for reply.

by maa64, Aug 23, 2007 10:01AM
To: montana girl 06
Well the radiologist was right I have cancer. I asked for a copy of the pathology report and he said he couldn't give it to me because of the legal ramifications. He told me my surgeon will give me a copy. The cancer is in a duct but some cancer cells got out. I was told that hopefully they will be in the breast. If they are not then I guess they will check the lymph nodes? I am trying to stay positive. He told me they caught the cancer early and that there is a 98% cure rate. Also they said the inject the lymph nodes with dye to check with cancer. Will they still remove a few? Also will I be asleep for the surgery? I want you to know that I am praying for you all. This is certainly a tough time. Waiting, waiting and more waiting.
Take Care All

by snowtree, Aug 23, 2007 11:43AM
To: maa64
I'm so sorry to hear that, I have been praying for you, as well as for all, I have a one subject notebook with your names on it, the subject is PRAYERS FOR MY FRIENDS, I know that maybe this is not going to make you feel better, but I will pray that you will heal inexplicably, that there will be a miracle in your life waiting to happen, I will pray that your doctors will have healing hands while doing your surgery, and lastly I will pray for Him to give you a peace that will surprise you at times.  Friend, we all are going through something similar, we never know when our time will come, but we certainly know that we are not alone, and that it will not be finish until our Creator say it is.  My aunt had a biopsy of her pelvis, because she have the virus that they always talk about in t.v. (papilloma virus, something like that) and she was freaking out, the doctor told her that it was advanced and that is was 95 percent cancer, can you believe that doctor?  Well, right now she gave me the news that she was negative, she was that 5 percent, I yelled so loud on the phone, that she told me that now she was going to go to the doctor to check her ears, lol.  What I mean child of God, that never loose hope, God loves us so much, and sometimes, not Him, but the devil wants to hit us across the head, to see if we black out, but we won't, because we have an awesome God, one who can if we let Him.  It hurts that you are going through this, but you can count on me, ok.  A sister in Christ.  Bye Bye.

by maa64, Aug 23, 2007 02:59PM
To: snowtree
Just found out my sister-in-law's dad died this morning. Just a little more than I can deal with at the present. He was a sweet man and only 61 and no health problems. As you said before none of us know when. He was a Christian so I know I'll see him again, but as I heard the joke - God doesn't give you more than you can handle - does God know that I am only a "C" student. I am sincerely feeling that way. It is a little overwhelming. The stress my family is feeling is overwhelming. Thank you for your prayers, could use a little of your positive energy right now. The Holy Spirit variety.
Waiting for that small still voice.
Take care

by snowtree, Aug 23, 2007 03:58PM
To: maa64
Sorry to hear about your brother-in-law, you see, he was healthy.  Nobody know only God.  The "C" student in funny, I must be a C minus, don't worry about it, I don't even know how I graduated from High School.  My friends were always studying and some of them fell the grade, I tell you, life was not fair for them, they had to do summer school, not me, weird right?  Well, also, you know that when it rains it pours, God is giving us a big test and we are trying to pass it, He understand,  His strength is like a balm, isn't it?  Oh, did I mention that my husband has to cousins that were given breast cancer diagnosis this year, yes, one is like 48, the other like 62, they are both doing great, one is hyper, the other is calm, but they are both taking it well, I mean, you hear everyday of new cases, I tell you, I wish that someone will come out with a vaccine, because this disease is more common than it has to be, the day that I went for my mammogram and sonogram, like everyone there was there either for more films or biopsies, I think nobody came out Birad 1 (meaning great!), all of them had BIRAD 4, what is this?  At least, we are taking care of ourselves, God gives us wisdom, He likes when we take care of ourselves, as long as we also take care of others, I love Him so much, whatever the trial, nobody can ever substitute what I feel inside of me since I was 9, back in 1971, I think I was born loving Him, forget about my family talking to me about Him or taking me to church, no, no, they didn't care, either one way or the other, my babysitter was the one that took me to her church, and from day number one I fell in love with Him, is a feeling that I can't describe, is the reason for me to do anything, my family thinks I'm weird most of the times, including my mom, she tells me, is not normal that you react that way to bad things, I say, well, you are missing on something good.  She is 66 years old, but still doesn't have the Lord in her heart, she has many idols, she worships them.  I mean her idols are material possessions, clothes, shoes, jewelry and many others, but the problem is that she doesn't have any money, but still buys them, then she can't pay for important things, then she get depressed and blames everybody, including God for her misfortune.  I still talk to her about the Lord almost everyday, I want her to go to heaven, if I could only get inside her brain, but I can't, anyways I love her a lot, I respect her, and feel sorry for her, we are the best of friends.  Bye

by Montana girl 06, Aug 23, 2007 08:27PM
To: maa64
You have so much to deal with right now. Only the Lord can give you the strength you need. I'm glad to hear yours was caught early with a high rate of cure. My knowledge is mostly about lumps and calcifications. I haven't had to deal with cancer, so I hope some others can answer your questions. Or, you could try posting your questions at breastcancer.org

by JoyGirl, Aug 23, 2007 11:22PM
To: snowtree
Thank you for your comments and support.  My biopsy is tomorrow (8/24) at 8 am.  They said they should have the results within 24 hours but that I would probably get them Monday because of the weekend.  Thank you for your prayers, and I will keep you in my prayers as well.
I am still using the underwires but have vowed to myself that next week I will go purchase some new bras.
I purchased a lavendar enzyme deoderant and to tell you the truth, it doesn't work as well as the other stuff, but I am glad that I switched.  I have found that I need to apply it a couple times per day, if I apply it three times, it works great.  If I only do it once or twice, I have noticed that I can get a little smelly under the arms.  Not used to that.  But I supposed God made our bodies perfectly and we are the ones who screw them up, by the things we put in them and on them, to defeat their true purposes.  We are supposed to sweat out toxins.  I'm realizing that maybe that is part of the reason that cancer rates are always on the rise.  Our bodies are just so full of toxins, between the aluminum deodorants, and all the chemicals in our food, air and water, we really have to work hard to make wise choices to assist our body in staying healthy.  Regardless of how my biopsy (I started typing "autopsy", opps...) turns out, I know that this experience will have changed me for the better.  I feel empowered to work harder towards maintaining my health, and I have come to the realization that we don't 'catch' diseases, we create them.
I thank you and everyone else for your efforts with this forum.  I know that I have made new friends and we all know that we can never have enough!
Good luck with your son.  Stay positive and my thoughts and prayers will be with YOU on Monday.

by snowtree, Aug 24, 2007 06:09AM
To: JoyGirl
How very true everything you said.  About my son, results were better than I thought, we was punished with 13 more hours of anger management classes, even though he is not to angry, but you know that life is not fair, the girl came out worst, she have to go to 26 anger management classes and psychiatric evaluation, so just like I say, the mother tried to hurt him, thinking that they were going to send him to jail again and she was the one that came out with $750.00 worth of medical bills and no insurance.  God don't like ugly.  Thank you for asking.  I promise you that today I will be praying for you at the time of the biopsy, at 8:00 a.m.  The time here is 6:42 a.m., like I always say go and say to God, please God You be the One that does the biopsy, You be the One that reads the biopsy, and really leave it on His mighty hands.  I truly agree with you about the deodorant, and I know what you mean about the "healthy ones", and about the toxins that should come out of our body naturally, I wonder what God thinks about all of us down here, He must be thinking {why do these people make their lives so complicated?  Why?}  I tell you, I would be thinking that way, I think about the waste of times, for example:  The times we waste ironing, cleaning with windex all the dust, taking out bathroom dirt, vacuuming, sweeping, shopping for food and other stuff, washing dishes, and at the end of the day we are wasted, tired, frustrated, oh and did I mention organizing the clutter.  I don't want to be a downer, but I've been trying to put my life in order for so many years, and like I said before minimizing everything in my life, I live with a lot of stress for many reasons, and like all of us, too many things to do, like Henry David Thoreau said in his book Walden simplify, simplify, simplify, I rented his tape in the library, and even though I don't agree with some of his ideas, I agree with must of them.  I tell you, God is the one that keeps me sane, He is the Only One that I can lean on, nobody else.  So trust Him and leave your burdens to Him, there is a great relief in giving all our cares to Jesus.  Well, be strong and let us know as soon as you have the results, I go for my biopsy on monday at 9:00.  Bye.

by snowtree, Aug 24, 2007 06:17AM
To: Montana Girl
Thank you for your prayers, they are very much appreciated, we are so blessed to have friends that we can lean on, specially to pray together with each other, that is so powerful.  Even if the outcome is not good, we have people to share our fears, sadness, and questions with.  Very important.  Bye

by snowtree, Aug 24, 2007 06:47AM
To: All
When you see a man led to prison, say in your heart, "perhaps he is escaping from a narrower one", and when you see a man drunken, say in your heart, "perhaps he sought escape from something still more UNbeautiful".          We are all prisoners, but some of us are in cells with windows and some without.              Joy can multiply itself in a heart that overflows with Love.        The Joy of Jesus will be my strength in my time of sadness.           It isn't how much we do, but how much Love we put into what we do that really matters.         You must Love with your time, your hands, and your hearts.  You need to SHARE all that you have.                Forgetfulness is a form of freedom.                Should you really open your eyes and see, you would behold your image in all images.  And should you open your ears and listen, you would hear your own voice in all voices.                 Half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it so that the other half may reach you.      A friend in Christ.

by maa64, Aug 24, 2007 07:40AM
To: All
Thank you for your prayers. I am slowly regaining my faith. Reading a lot of Psalms lately. Joygirl I liked when you said we don't catch diseases we create them. Thanks for that. A lot of my Christian friends are upset with me for my lack of faith. Honestly I know God didn't plan this for me. He has a plan for me to prosper. But our lifestyles now are terrible. Your statement really sums up my feelings. Do I think God can heal me, without one doubt. I just know that I wasn't really eating healthy and obeying Him in that area. It was a direct disobedience and now I have the consequence. Thank you. Also about the deodorant how funny I switched about a year ago and I am constantly asking my husband, smell me, do I stink? LOL. Also just a warning I never heard this from anyone but on an interview with Sheryl Crow - water. Yes water, you see when we drink water from plastic bottles and the bottles get warm she said they leach out cancer causing substances. Penta is the best water, but absolutely tap water with a filter is the best. They were warning women not to leave their water in the car, let it get warm, but then drink it anyway. Then I realized they do not transport this water cold. So any water you buy in plastic is probably contaminated. Also then what about juice, etc. You said about more and more women getting breast cancer, it may be linked to plastic. So for us we must be more vigilant. Take care of our bodies. I am praying for you all. Snowtree keep the faith, you are a joy. Montana girl you are a wealth of information.Joygirl you are a delight. All in my prayers. Keep strong.

by snowtree, Aug 24, 2007 05:03PM
To: JoyGirl
How are you?  How did it go today? I prayed for you exactly at 8:00 a.m.  I hope everything went well.  Let us know as soon as you have an answer.  God Bless.

by snowtree, Aug 24, 2007 07:40PM
To: All
I went to Target today and saw for the first time a deodorant with a pink ribbon on the outside, it was natural and smelled really good, maybe I'll try it in the near future.  Has anybody heard of using lemon in your underarms?  I knew of a man that did this and he said that he never smelled, he did it to save money, though, but you never know.  Anyways, anybody know anything about these?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 24, 2007 08:05PM
To: maa64
maa64 - I don't understand people the criticizm you got for not having faith. Faith in God does not determine the outcome of a biopsy. Believing the biopsy will be benign is positive thinking, NOT faith. Faith in God is about believing in God, understanding and accepting His will in our lives. Faith is knowing God will get you through this. Faith is NOT about believing that God will not allow you to have cancer. Also, please don't blame yourself for needing causing your breast problems. It's true that eating and living healthy can lower your chances of cancer, but it DOES NOT mean a healthy person will not get cancer. You have plenty of stress to deal with without putting the blame on yourself.

by snowtree, Aug 25, 2007 08:52AM
To: Montana girl
You just hit on the target, is so true what you say.  That's why I are rather tell you guys what I'm going through than sometimes people in my family or friends, to tell you the truth, I can only say that I have 1 friend, she actually think she is my friend, but I really think she is someone I happen to know and see frequently.  I can't stand people that never liked me to begin with, to be calling me all of the time to ask me how I'm doing and doing the hypocrit act, another thing that I don't like is when you try to speak and talk about a problem that you have, and the other person doesn't even let you finish, because she doesn't even care about what you are saying, she just wants to put a little piece of her story there, and there it goes, you don't even want to tell your story anymore to someone that don't care anyways.  This world is full of good hearted people, I'm sure, but full of hypocrits, that think they are better than thou.  Maa64, you know why they say that you don't have faith?  Because they are not going through what you are going through.  Do you know what I've been doing this week?  I've not answered the phone, at all, because all of a sudden, everybody loves me, and everybody wants to know the result of my biopsy, not because they care, but because they need a little gossip.  I'm sorry, but I am free in Christ and part of my freedom is that I don't have to answer the phone if I don't want to.  Period.  A friend in Christ.

by boninclyde, Aug 25, 2007 01:56PM
To: 1 year ago today

by Montana girl 06, Aug 25, 2007 06:19PM
To: boninclyde
I'm thinking about you!

by JoyGirl, Aug 26, 2007 01:00AM
To: snowtree and ALL
I had the biopsy yesterday.  It was not too bad.  I will describe the details so that anyone else that may be preparing will hear all about it.  I had a stereostatic needle biopsy for a Birad Class 4 suspiscious mass in the right breast.  I laid on my back on the table and they first did an ultrasound.  Then they cleaned the breast and covered all of me except an opening of about a 5" diameter in the surgical paper over the breast.  The worst part was the anesthesia.  It burned a little but really wasn't that bad.  It was a lidocaine and epinephrine injection.  They would inject some, then push the needle in a little further, inject more and so on until they had it all totally numbed.  I have had a number of dental procedures done and it did not hurt as bad as the anesthetic that you get before dental work. No where near as bad, so if you can handle the injection at the dentist, this will not be as bad.
Anyway, they did an ultrasound while they were inserting the needle and sucking out the samples of the mass through the needle. The whole process took about an hour.  They wanted to insert a clip into my breast which they would leave in forever and I objected and luckily the doctor told me that he would not put in the clip.  He said that if it comes out malignant, there will be no marker in the breast without the clip so that I will need to have surgery within two weeks so that they can see exactly where they were working and taking samples.  He said that the sampling site would not heal for two or three weeks so a quick surgery would be in order to make sure they would take tissue from the 'right' site.  
When they were done, the technician cleaned off my breast, applied about 8 or 10 steri strips (like butterfly bandages) over the incision which is only about 1/2 inch long.  Then they put a little compression bandage on the site which was a roll of gauze covering the incision site secured in place with surgical tape.  Then they sent me for another mammogram.  Then put a small ice pack on it and then my bra.  As soon as I got home, I put a bigger ice pack over the area inside my bra.  I put a couple snack size ziploc bags with water in them into the freezer and everytime the ice would thaw, I would put a new one on the site (wrapped in a paper towel).  I had the procedure done at 8 am and kept ice on the site til about midnight.  This morning I removed the compression bandage and tomorrow I can try to remove the steristrips, but I will probably leave them in place an extra day because I did have some bleeding today, which bled through my clothing.  I started doing laundry this morning and probably overdid it!  I really had no major pain.  I think all the ice really helped a lot.  I also really took it easy yesterday after the procedure - rested a lot during the day.
It really wasn't bad.  The worse part it the worrying and waiting.  I should get my results on Monday and will be sure to share them with you.

by JoyGirl, Aug 26, 2007 01:30AM
To: maa64
Thank you for your comments.  I didn't mean to create any guilt when I said basically that we are the cause of our illnesses.  I hope to shed light on the subject that we may have more control over our health if we pay more attention to what we expose our bodies to.  It is never to late to learn.  We all could do better, but in a health crisis, when we have these ah-hah momments, we can learn from them.  My thought in even making those statements was to inspire us all to try harder, to think twice about the fast food, the preservatives, the weed killers, bug killers, the diet pop, etc.  We have to be empowered to try to make healthier choices.  Our bodies need nourishment now more than ever.  The stress alone that we are all under depletes our bodies of several key vitamins.  I like to think of our body as a savings account, everything we eat is either a deposit (of good nutrients) or a deficit (something our body will have to work hard to digest or figure out what it is).
I know that you will be OK.  I will pray for you and for your healing.  I am not a very religious person but I do know that Jesus healed people who had faith in his ability to heal.  Believe that He will heal you.  I truthfully can not even imagine what you are going through.  Try to focus on the positive, on the success rates, and feel grateful for all of the wonderful people and good things in your life.  Take time for youself.

by ziggy123, Aug 26, 2007 10:45AM
To: Boninclyde &Montana girl
Know that you (especially on your one year mark)and Montana girl are in my thoughs each and every day!

by DemoNurse, Aug 26, 2007 03:06PM
I am a 36 year old who had a mammogram  2 years ago after my doctor palpated a lump. I had an ultrasound after the mammogram and I had some macrocalcifications in the left breast. I was relieved to find out that everything was negative.On 8/24/07 I had another mammogram after my doctor palpated more lumps all over in both breast. I have very cystic breast which are painful about a week before my period. This time the mammogram identified some microcalcifications in the right breast that were concerning. It was described as indeterminate and I have a core needle biopsy scheduled for 8/30/07. I am terrified. I have started planning for the long-term effects this can have on the family if it is cancer. My husband and I have been going through a divorce and I have come to the conclusion that whatever we were going through is minute compared to a breast cancer diagnosis. He is being very supportive and I need that right now. The problem is I am a nurse and I have always valued "quality of life" vs. quantity of years. I think I would prefer to enjoy the time that I have over fighting and going thru  the ups and downs of therapy, living unsure if the cancer has returned and  the stress and strain that my family will face. Am I making the right decision? My husband was shocked at our discussions and totally against the idea. My doctor did tell me that 80% of the microcalcifications are benign. I am still terrified. We have decided against telling any family and friends until the biopsy is complete.  

by DemoNurse, Aug 26, 2007 03:09PM
I need to add that I was on the last day of my period when I had the mammogram and magnification. Also I drink about 12-20 oz. coffee at least 3-4 times a week. Does this affect the mammogram results?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 26, 2007 06:10PM
To: JoyGirl
I'm glad your biopsy went well. Thanks for keeping us posted.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 26, 2007 06:19PM
To: DemoNurse
Many of us expect the worst when we go for a breast biopsy. But look at the high percentage of benign biopsies for  calcifications. I personally have had 2 benign biopsies for calcifications. If the area is malignant, it's most likely a very early, treatable cancer. I understand what  you're saying about cancer treatment interfering with quality of life. But, many women have gone through treatment and come out stronger in the end. If it turns out to be malignant, please don't make up your mind about any treatment until you've gotten at least 2 opinions for treatment and researched them well. And remember, a suspicious area does NOT necessarily mean cancer. I will keep you in my prayers.

by snowtree, Aug 26, 2007 08:31PM
To: JoyGirl
Thank you for explaining your biopsy in such great details.  I am going for mine tomorrow morning, I have to be in the hospital at 8:30, to register, at 9:00 they will start the biopsy, I will let you guys know if I have to take a chill pill or not, is like the stronger I want to be, the shakier my knees get, one second I tell my husband I'm brave, I don't need anything, and the next I tell him I think I should take it, well, he is a matter of fact guy, and he just told me to take the pill in my hands and swallow if I need it, even if I'm in the middle of it all, lol.  You know that I'll look a little weird holding a pill in my hands, and I might scare the radiologist.  Anyways, the last biopsy I had sounded exactly like yours, there were some differences, though, I laid in a bed looking down, with my left breast in one hole, and I felt like a lot of plastic bags placed on my breast, and a lot of x-rays were lightning the room, I thought those people had forgotten me there and the x-ray machine had gone crazy, lol.  I started yelling, "please someone come to the room, these x-rays can't be good for your health, a nurse and the doctor (actually a breast surgeon) came at the last minute and told me that I was going to hear a clapping of hands, and that it was only going to hurt that long (one loud clap), well, I heard the clap, but it didn't hurt, not even once, the radiologist before him had been talking about how everything was in Iraq (my daughter been there), and he was trying to take my mind off it all.  It was a good experience, but just like you I had to put ice, and rest, is very important to rest (almost impossible in my home), my husband took the day off, so I'm taking a little advantage of him and I gave him a list of things he have to do, like fax something, ship something in the post office, order my daughter's contact lenses, and very important buy me a banana split from cold stone, I want to be pamper, for at least one day in my life, I serve everyone here, now is there turn.  JoyGirl, please rest this week as much as you can, remember, the house can go, and the laundry, try to do whatever your family needs at the moment, just for one week.  God Bless You.  Let us know the results, please.

by tamknit, Aug 26, 2007 08:58PM
To: everyone
Hi all, Had a routine yearly mammogram on 8/21 (my 5th). I am 45. They found an area of microcalcifications in the left breast, that had not been there previously. Had magnification mammo and ultrasound the same day. Had stereotatic biopsy on 8/24, they wanted to do it sooner, but it was my son's 9th birthday... My Birad was 4b. I went to biopsy thinking that it was 80% likely benign, however the radiologist said in her experience it was more like 50% benign. The cluster was dense, linear and they did not get it all, though a "good sample". The biopsy was Fri, so have to wait until Mon for results... it's killing me to wait. Also, the first day of school is Mon, my youngest is starting kinder. Hard to be excited for her. Any words of encouragement during the wait is much appreciated. Thanks, Tammie

by snowtree, Aug 26, 2007 09:03PM
To: DemoNurse
We are your support group for now, we are all going through the same thing, so we understand each other, everyone here has an input, and that is very important.  You are going on thursday, right?  Please tell us the time, so we can pray for you, I already wrote you on my prayer notebook, like Montana girl said:  Just because we have faith that doesn't mean that the biopsy is going to come back benign, but it means that God will be there with us comforting us at that moment and beyond, in other words, we are still going to believe in Him the same.  His thoughts are not our thoughts, that's why he is God, we are not.  But, let me tell you that prayers accomplish much, but is true what Montana girl said when she said that thinking the biopsy is going to come back benign is positive thinking, and that we should accept God's will in our lives, sometimes when we think something is good for us is not, and sometimes when something bad happens to us, at the end is for our benefit, I don't know how to explain it, but it is.  Well, try to be calm.  Tomorrow I will be explaining my biopsy in detail, pain or not.  Know the Truth and the Truth will set you free.  Christ is the Truth:  He is the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Him, so that's why I pray to the Father in His name.  Sharing your pain.  Snowtree.

by DemoNurse, Aug 26, 2007 09:54PM
To: Everyone
Thanks for the encouragement. I really need to hear everything...the good with the bad. I called my doctor after the magnification and asked  her to order me something for anxiety. I know me and I know how overcome with anxiety I can become in situations like this. This has really brought home for me how short life is and how we should live every moment to the fullest. Thanks for the lessons on faith and sharing your experiences. I really needed this forum. The wait is creating a great deal of anxiety for me. Can someone please assist me with pain medication before the biopsy? I have a low tolerance for pain. I will definately need something more than tylenol. In my experience Ibuprofen would probably be benefical for inflammation but it can increase bleeding so they asked that I not take any. Any suggestions? DemoNurse

by JoyGirl, Aug 26, 2007 10:48PM
To: DemoNurse
I have heard that you can not take any ibuprofen or aspirin for at least 48 hours prior to the biopsy and 24 hours after because of the bleeding.  I didn't take anything before or after, just ice.  I had my biopsy on Friday, I am bruised but really never had pain.  I did have a few odd sensations in the breast and up under the arm, but definitely not pain.  Don't worry.  You will get through it.  
I know how hard it is wondering.  It is so hard with the kids.  I know when I was waiting in line with my son at his school registration, tears were welling up in my eyes thinking that I may not be around to do this with him next year.  I was probably the only mom in line that was not complaining about how long and slow the line was.  I suddenly was just so happy to be standing there next to him. I had to wait a month for my biopsy, so it was a long painful month for me.  I am supposed to get the results tomorrow.  I have made the decision to not tell my children.  Also, I will not tell any family members til I have the results.  If it is malignant, I will have to figure out what I am going to do.  It is hard to keep it to myself, my husband is the only person that knows.  That is one reason that this forum is so great.  You can talk to a bunch of great women who are going through the same thing.  You don't have to worry about them telling anyone.  My personal opinion is not to tell anyone until you know for sure, then weigh out how you want to handle it.  I just didn't feel that I wanted to put my kids through worries, especially now that it is the beginning of a new school year and all the everyday stresses they go through with new schools, teachers, etc.  I chose not to tell my other family members because I did not want to put them through what I am going through, hopefully unneccesarily.
Keep us posted....

by JoyGirl, Aug 26, 2007 10:50PM
To: snowtree
Good luck tomorrow.  I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.  Try some deep breaths.  I am glad your husband will be off.

by tamknit, Aug 26, 2007 11:19PM
To: everyone
In the past 2 years, I have dodged several medical bullets, a carotid artery murmur (doc thought it was an anerysm, turned out to be nothing) two years ago, then suspected ovarian tumors caught on ultrasound (again turned out to be nothing) last year.  All of these happened in Aug.  It is just a bad month for me.  Anyone, I really feel fatalistic about this, feel like this time I won't dodge the bullet and it will be cancer.  It is a very strong pure feeling.  I can deal with the diagnosis and treatment, it is the waiting that bothers me.  My husband is a doc (orthopaedic surgeon) very strong, supportive, wonderful really.  He tells me it is in God's hands, however I feel that God may want this test for me.  Did any of you the feeling that the results would be bad, then they turned out the opposite?  I promise I will post with results tomorrow.  This is the longest night ever. I'm thinking of asking hubby to call me in an rx!
Be Well,
Tam
Oh, I meant to tell you, the biopsy did not hurt, just uncomfortable.  I had the breast through the hole type, positioned on my tummy, because of the location of the microcalc.  More undignified than anything.  Any thoughts on the 50% number that the radiologist gave?  That is really bugging me.  Also, she asked if my husband and I had decided on a surgeon as she was doing the biopsy.  Not good bedside manner.

by ziggy123, Aug 27, 2007 05:17AM
To: Tamknit
I share your feelings about medical procedures in the month of August. I wait all summer, then try to get things in, only to be zapped by one thing or another. Last year I was diagnosed with DCIS, caught very early, removed with lumpectomy, no follow-up (chemo, radiation, medication) needed. This August it has been cardiac issues aggravated by nerves that are shot.
I agree with you whole heartedly that waiting is the worst part. Just tell me right then and there and I can deal with it and move on! But that is not the case. The only way that I got through my August 06 was with some help from my mother's xxanax. I will keep you in my prayers as you wait to hear your results. Try to stay positive. I disagree w/the 50%. The only numbers that I have ever heard, not only on this site, but from my own surgeon is 85%. Keep that in mind. The odds are with you, not against you.

by snowtree, Aug 27, 2007 05:52AM
To: JoyGirl
Thank you for praying for me.  I really appreciated.  I just woke up, and I'm breakfasting dunkin donuts, yes a coffee with all its caffeine and a bagel with cream cheese.  To tell you the truth I have decided to take the xanax (but you never know what I'm going to think when I'm in there), I am a little mad at my children because with all the noise they made in the middle of the night I couldn't sleep, and spent the night listening to television (all bad news about Hulk Hogan's son, Owen Wilson, etc.), and praying, even though you never can say how you going to react to something, I've been a nervous wreck, why lie, but I have seconds of calmness, lol.  Well, will post today how it went.  Thank you again,  GLORY TO GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by snowtree, Aug 27, 2007 05:54AM
To: JoyGirl
Let us know your results today.  I will keep on praying for you.  I promise.

by maa64, Aug 27, 2007 06:54AM
To: Tamknit
Just wanted to tell you that when I restarted drinking caffeine (stopped when pregnant) I started getting lumps in my breast, my ob/gyn told me to lay off the caffeine that in some women it causes cystic, fibrous lumps in breast.
Tamgirl, I will be praying for you. For all of us the waiting is terrible and I, too, had a doctor with a bad bedside manner. Didn't he realize that if he was having a bad day that mine might be worse? I pray I never get that radiologist again. So don't let his mood effect yours.
Please everyone post your results asap. Praying for you all. Also Joygirl you didn't create any guilt. I am a person who analyzes and I knew God wanted me to quit eating some of the bad things. Sugar especially. I like your thought on a bank account. It HELPS me choose better items to eat now. I go Wed. for my consult with the surgeon. Just remember gals,of all cancer Breast cancer is the most treatable and curable. Let's not give up hope. I love this site. Sometimes I feel like I am a loon going from moments of great faith to crying. It is just so much to deal with and I realize I am normal well as normal as one can be!
Praying for all your results. Hang in there snowtree, joygirl, tamknit.
Take care.

by HelenV, Aug 27, 2007 06:57AM
To: snowtree;
You are in my prayers that your biopsy goes well today and thank you for your prayers as well.  I do believe in miracles and I am praying for one for my ovarian cyst and that all goes well on August 31st for my procedure of the removal of the fibroaedenoma.  Please let us know how it goes.

by JoyGirl, Aug 27, 2007 10:05AM
To: maa64
Thanks for your comments, I called my doc. the exact moment that the office opened this morning for my biopsy results.  I had to leave a message and am waiting for the results.  This morning I felt really gloomy.   I agree with everyone, the waiting is the worst thing.  It is easier to go through the procedures and treatment than it is to wait, and wonder, and worry. IT is a roller coaster ride.
Good luck on Wednesday.  I know you will get through this and I, too will be praying for you.
God Bless You as you proceed...

by JoyGirl, Aug 27, 2007 10:15AM
To: snowtree
How did it go?  When do they expect your results?  I have been and will continue to pray for you.
Try not to watch too much depressing news on TV.  Put on comedy or something that you like.  Try to surround yourself with happy stuff.  I try only to watch parts of the news, if I want to hear the weather forecast or the sports, or a main story of something that is going on, I watch that part only, then I turn it off.  Hearing about all the rapes, and drive by shootings, and hit and run accidents, stories about cruelty, etc. really brings us down.  We don't need that right now.  Rent your favorite happy movie, comedy or romance.  It will make you feel better.  Try to spend time with positive people.  Try to let go of any anger or resentment that you hold onto.    It will raise you up!

by snowtree, Aug 27, 2007 12:31PM
To: JoyGirl
Remember I told you that I ate donuts this morning?  Well, I didn't tell anyone in the hospital, because they didn't ask anyways, but let me say the truth, I did take a xanax before leaving my house, I got to the hospital 5 minutes late, like at 8:50, they called me in to register, then at 9:00, they sent me to the radiology department, there was a nurse, a guy that did the sonogram, then another guy (the radiologist) took over and finished the sonogram, now they said something different that I had a solid mass measuring 5, and then now it measured 8, wow.  Then the previous guy that had started the US came back, and told me, ok we are starting, I will put a orange antiseptic all over your  breast, some in my neck (by the way, by mistake, but no big deal), he told to lean to the side and to move my left arm babk, to make sure I dont touch the breast, then theu waited for the surgeon that was in an important phone call, and I told them I didn't mind waiting, for them not to worry, then the surgeon came, told me that a needle was going to be inserted to numb the breast, but that they had to insert three of them, cause the solid mass BIRAD #4 had to be checked and biopsied in three different angles (side) (underneath) and (top), I told them all (even another nurse came in the room and started massaging the side of my hip, as if making me relaxed), that to please do not mention anything they found until my results were ready, they placed something inside my breast, cause the surgeon said that in the future when I have other mammos, that they will know that I had already had a biopsy on that spot.  Conclusion:  No pain (of course) after taking a xanax I'm the braves person in the world, they congratulated me and mentioned that I was very brave, lol, I said inside of me MEEEEE???    BRAVE???   no way Josey!  But, the don't ask don't tell rule applied here.  Please, never take a chill pill without consulting wiith your doctor, remember that I had previously asked another breast specialist.  Well, I don't know whwn the results are going to be ready.  Will post.  One more thing, I didn't applied the resting time yet, I just came from Crackel Barrelm my husband could not believed I wanted to eat again, but just for the tradition, on my other biopsy I did just the same.  Thank you for your prayers, I will answer all of you today little by little, is not easy to type with one hand, I will lay down for a little bit now.  So long.

by maa64, Aug 27, 2007 02:47PM
To: joygirl, snowtree, tamknit
You might find this funny, but as soon as I come home I turn on the computer to be updated to see how you all are doing. The cruelest thing you could do is not report in, good or bad news. Praying for all good!!! When I read your blogs snowtree, i think that gal doesn't know how strong and brave she is. I am trying also to not watch the news. I am trying to see all the positive that is coming out of this. All things work together for good in Christ for those who love Him. And honestly I do believe there is a lot of good. Today my mother-in-law went to Wal-mart and was standing in line and the woman in front of her turned around and said what a lovely day it was, my mother-in-law remarked about all the food in her cart, and she said that she was making meals and putting them in the freezer for her family. My mother-in-law told her that I was doing that also because I was going to have surgery. The woman asked what for and she told her cancer and the woman asked breast cancer? My mother-in-law said yes. And the woman asked if she could pray for me. What she meant was right there right now. She stopped the line, the clerk stopped ringing people up, the customers bowed their heads and my mother-in-law said she proceeded to pray very loudly in the Walmart! How about that! Ain't God great, He can move mountains and stop the Walmart line!!!!!
So take heart we are not in this fight alone. We are all called to prayer warriors.
Snowtree take heart, Joy girl it is a roller coaster ride to which we have little control of. I will be praying as we all await results.
Take care

by snowtree, Aug 27, 2007 07:09PM
To: maa64
Funny indeed.  Isn't that woman strong and isn't she not ashamed of our Lord Jesus Christ, right there in public she actually confessed Him, wow!  maa64 your are wonderful.  I'm going to tell you an experience I had today.  Remember everything I had told everyone this morning about resting, I told JoyGirl, and forgetting about the house, yea right!!  If you want to make God laugh tell Him your plans.  Look, I laid down for a little while, alright, about 30 minutes the most.  My husband woke up weary, even though he went to buy dunkin donuts (I didn't asked him, he wanted to), he likes to be doing something all the time (he gets bored fast), so I felt bad for him, and even though he did the errands I wrote about this morning (he wanted to fly like a bird in a cage), so I told him "don't worry, I'm doing great, I will pick-up the kids at school, so he left, I know he felt bad, but everyone deals however they could, well, I've washed 3 washing machines full of laundry, I watched dishes gallore, I put all my paper work in files were they belong (remember my problem about being a minimalist), I don't blame him or anyone else, because he told me that I didn't have to do nothing at all, and I know that's true, but I'll suffer more thinking that tomorrow I have to wake up with a real messy house than to hurt myself (isn't this foolishness?   Well maa64, like I said before, you are a kind and caring woman, you will accomplish much in this world, that is not really our home, he have a home somewhere in heaven with no sickness, sorrow or tears, we have breast problems, but have you gone to other forums?  I tell you, I went to another the other day about other types of cancer and I almost cry, this is a sad world, but like JOYGIRL said is better to watch happy things, at least for a while instead of everything tragic and negative.  Bye for now, a friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 27, 2007 07:44PM
To: All
I meant that we are pilgrims in this world, our citizenship is in heaven, I'm sorry if I don't make sense sometimes, due to the lack of rest, sleep and having taken a xanax in the morning I'm a little confused, like I said before I never take medicine for anything, but vitamin E and Primrose that I will found more info about.  Oh, my incision was mostly around my oreola, close to the nipple.  WHERE IS MY NIPPLE?  I HAVE IT COVERED HALF WAY, WITH A PIECE POTRUDING ON ONE SIDE, I washed the surrounding areas with a warm towel, I don't even know when I have to take the bandage out.  I asked, but you know what happens when you are a little under medication, meaning xanax, well, let me not complain, because it wasn't as bad as I thought, because I never had this kind of biopsy before, only the other kind.  Both were not painful, oh and if anybody here wants to ask a question about colonoscopy or endoscopy please ask me, I had them both in 2005, not painful either, I mean I didn't feel one pain.  From 1-10 biopsy pain is a 1 or less, colonoscopy is a 1, also, and endoscopy (in case you have a problem swallowing) is another 1, I thank GOD for ANESTHESIA.  Peace  and good will to all.

by tamknit, Aug 27, 2007 08:28PM
To: All
Well, I promised I would post, and unfortunately it is bad news.  I have non invasive ductal CA and invasive lobular CA and (as if that is not enough), the radiologist did me a favor and accidently nicked a lymph node on the way in, so they biopsied lymph tissue, and that turned out to be positive for CA as well.  I hit the proverbial jackpot of cancer!  Sorry to post this because I know this scares everyone who will come after me.  But.... I am feeling so strong and confirmed, I just had this very strong feeling that this would happen and I will be okay....  My husband is a rock.  My children do not know yet... We see a surgeon tomorrow to plan our next steps.  Will try to keep you updated.  Remember, I promised to post, good or bad... so I am the bad, the odds are that all of you will be the good.
Be Well,
Tam

by boninclyde, Aug 27, 2007 08:49PM
Haven't commented here much but I have read all  of the comments. You have such a positive attitude. That and knowledge will get you through this. I am 1 year out. My surgery was August 25th, 06. You seem much stronger than I . I guess I am a big chincken. Yes I am. I am sorry. I know what you are going thorugh. There are so many ways now to fight cancer. You will get through this. Do you mind if I ask how old your kids are? Mine 6, 13 and 17. I do wish you well. Read everything you can. Knowledge is powelful and will be your healer. Let us know what your status is and maybe we can support and guide you through treatment.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 27, 2007 08:51PM
To: ziggy123
How are your cardiac issues going? I know you were supposed to have another proceedure until you got that taken care of. Any progress?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 27, 2007 09:09PM
maa - That is the neatest story I've heard in ages about prayer. And I believe so strongly in the power of prayer.

Tam - I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I love hearing about all the benign biopsies, but we do need a reality check because we all know that some biopsies do find cancer. I'm glad you're feeling strong, and that you have a husband to lean on when you're not feeling as strong since I'm sure you'll have a lot of ups and downs. I'll keep you in my prayers.

Snowtree - You're much stronger than you think. The way you support others at this site shows your strength. Praying for a good report. Please give yourself some rest and don't overdo it.

JoyGirl - I'm hoping and praying for a benign report from you today.

ALL - We all have high and low moments as we go through biopsies and wait for results. We're not looney, we're worried and stressed out women. I pray for you all.

by JoyGirl, Aug 27, 2007 09:21PM
To: tamknit
Sorry to hear about your news.  Wow, talk about having a boulder dropped on you.  I appreciate your strength and know that your strength is a positive influence on all of us.  Glad you have such a supportive husband to help you through.  How old are your kids and what are your thoughts on telling them? I am debating if I will tell my kids when I get my results.  Mine are 11, 13 and 15.
Thanks for keeping us posted.  Your news didn't scare me, it actually gave me hope.  I have been so tired of waiting on calls, appointments and results that I told my husband today that I don't even care if the news is bad anymore, I just want to know so that I can move on.
Let us know what the surgeon says and what you will persue for treatments.
I will keep you and your family in my prayers!

by JoyGirl, Aug 27, 2007 09:33PM
To: All
Sorry, no results to report.  I started calling at 8:45 am when my drs. office opened this morning.  Called several more times throughout the day and kept leaving messages until a few minutes before my kids came home from school, at which time I finally got to speak with my drs. nurse, who told me they didn't have the results yet, so I called the hospital where I had the biopsy and asked them please to fax the results to my doctor because they would be closing in a couple hours.  When the dr. did the biopsy on Friday, he told me that he would read the results that afternoon and send the results to transcription and that my dr. may get the results on Saturday. And that if I didn't hear on Saturday, I would for sure on Monday.
Well, never heard a word back today.  It is so frustrating.  I took off work today and my husband went in late hoping to get results and be there with me before he left. Tomorrow I am working and if I get the results, I will be with clients.
Sorry for venting my frustrations but I had to wait 23 days from the time they found the suspicious nodule until I had the biopsy because there is only one dr. in the hospital who does biopsies and one nurse who schedules them and they were "using up" vacation days.  It has been two months since my problems began and I have to laugh at how the signs in the hospital are all pushing for "early detection". Well they may detect the problem but I will grow old waiting to find out the results.  Hopefully, I will be in a better mood and will get good results tomorrow.  I'll post the results as soon as I can.

by JoyGirl, Aug 27, 2007 09:40PM
To: snowtree
Glad it went well.  Please try to take it easy and don't forget the ice.  Don't worry about the chill pill.  Just be careful about taking anything with aspirin or anything that could thin the blood til your incision heals.  Dont worry about telling the doctors if you took that because they would understand.  You are brave in my book no matter what!
Mine incision is almost completely healed.  I had to keep the gauze on for 24 hours, and the steristrips for 48 hours.  I kept the strips on an extra day because I was bleeding when doing laundry at the 24 hour mark. Because of that, I felt I should keep the cut taped shut a little longer.  I dabbed tea tree oil on the incision a few times each day and took the strips off this morning.  Now you can barely see where the cut was.  I am still pretty bruised, it looks bad but doesn't hurt at all.

by DemoNurse, Aug 27, 2007 11:15PM
To: All
I have to commend all the people that post in this site. I come here without any real-life knowledge of breast issues. I complain that I am a 36DD. After my mammogram and magnification I am grateful that GOD sought fit that I have the breast that I have. I am scheduled to have my core needle biopsy on Thursday August 30th. My doctor did give me a script for Xanax which I haven't taken. I don't like taking medication but I wanted it available for the biopsy if needed. The strength of the people in this forum is very impressive. I am not a prayer warrior but I found plenty here. I was lead to this site for a reason and I am grateful. To all the women I have you in my thoughts and I will post how the procedure went for me as well as the results of the biopsy. My children are 19, 17 and 15. We haven't told them yet. I don't know if I will tell them either way. I don't want them worrying about me. This is my only outlet other than my husband. I look forward to all the post and advice that this forum provides. Thanks to everyone who sees fit to share their experiences. Just waiting on pins and needles for my biopsy.
DemoNurse

by ziggy123, Aug 28, 2007 08:51AM
To: montana girl
Thank you so much for asking about me. Iwent for a stress test, had some unusual heart rhythms and was referred to a cardiologist. My heart rate was sky high even w/the xxanex I had taken for nerves. Had the appoint me with a wonderful cardiologist.He looked at my stress stress, cardiograms and listened to my pounding heart. He said he thought the very fast heartrate was stress related but ordered another stress test w/an echocardiogram. Went for that on Friday and the place would not do the stress test only the echo! Before I even got on the treadmill my heartrate was 125! Needless to say I freaked, came home called the cardiologist, who still thinks things are okay, it is all nerve related. I hope he continues to think that wasy after looking at my echogram. My nerves are shot. I hate the month of August!

by ziggy123, Aug 28, 2007 08:53AM
To: tamknit
I am sorry to hear about your diagnosis. You are very lucky to have strong support from your husband. As a single mom w/5 children (they are just a bit older than your three) I decided to tell them. I was amazed at their strength and support. They got me through a very difficult time. Only you and your husband know how and when to tell your children. My prayers are with you.

by boninclyde, Aug 28, 2007 09:18AM
To: tamknit
ziggy is right. Only you and your husband know what/how/if to tell the kids. My kids and husband happened to be with me the day I was diagnosed. They saw me break down, scared. It was amazing how it was to share this with them. We were all devastated. It was their strength that got me through. I could not have done it without them. My husband was my hardest rock. We have always been an extremely close family but that day we shared something that I can't put into words. They were 5, 12 and 16 then. You will get through this.

by snowtree, Aug 28, 2007 10:24AM
To: tamknit
I want you to know, that I am here for you, I can't post more right now, because I am having my migrane headaches, at the moment, I wanted to read a little bit, because you guys are like my family now, I love you all, but wait, I will post later or tomorrow.  Thank you all for being so caring.  God Bless Us All.  Snowtree.

by snowtree, Aug 28, 2007 12:22PM
To: Tammie
My headache went away a little.  Let me tell you that I am sorry for your results, but that you seem to be so strong, having all the problems before and surviving them, you see, you must have goo health after all, I know in person a lot of women that have cancer in their breast and they are survivors, even 15 years later.  I used to work in a bank back in 1981 to 1991, my closest co-worker had advanced cancer, listen, in one breast then the other, they did surgery on her and she was perfect after that, traveling to Guatemala and on vacation all of the time, she was a strong woman, well, once long time after her (both breast cancer) she developed cancer in her pituitary gland.  She was friends through her brother with her doctor, and he gave her the results on the phone, next to me, just the two of us, when all of a sudden I hear sobbing noises, she tells me, the doctor just called and said the cancer is back again, she asked me smiling:  Did you see any tears in my eyes?  I said yes.  She said it was just a reaction, but that I wasn't going to see any other ones, promise, she said.  Truthfully, she had surgery and they put screws  in her head and what seemed to be a ornament circlet to cover them: I called her QUEEN ESTHER, everyday when she came in the office.  Listen :SHE SURVIDED THAT CANCER TOO:  chemotherapy, radiation and all.  End of story, just like my paternal grandmother that had last stage cervix cancer QUEEN ESTHER died close to 90 from diabetes complications, my grandmother from old age in her 80s, I saw Esther the last time shopping in a wheel chair at the mall, we both laughed together with her son, I said Esther are you still trying to look beautiful as always, and she had this loud laugh that makes to crack up, then a few months later she went with dear God.  Think of this dear one, is not over until God say it is, plus we are all praying for you, isn't that nice?  Why do you think you came to this exact forum, by coincidence?  I don't think so, I am 46, almost your same age, my results will be given to me in 2 or 3 days, and I promise I will tell myself the same things I'm telling you.  God will walk with you every step of the way, and sometimes He will carry you, so don't worry BE HAPPY!!    Snowtree.

by JoyGirl, Aug 28, 2007 12:46PM
To: Montana Girl
Thanks again for your thoughts and prayers.  I am STILL waiting.....
Will post as soon as I find out.  You are a blessing!

by JoyGirl, Aug 28, 2007 06:10PM
To: All
Well, good news for me.  Finally at 6 pm, at my wits end, I got a call saying the biopsy was negative.  I had convinced myself that it would be positive after my call to the doctor's nurse who told me finally that she had the results, after five days, but would have to have the dr. look them over first.  I had to wait five more hours til I finally found out.  Whew, I dodged the bullet this time.
They gave me no follow up instructions.  I asked if I needed to have a follow up mammogram or anything in 3 or 6 months, and they just said no.  I think I will wait two years til my next mammogram.  I don't think I could take going through this again. I agree that the waiting is worse than the diagnosis.  I am grateful that I have been spared any further decisions at this time.  I will continue to check into this discussion, and check in on all of you, and pray for each of you.
Thank you all for being here for me.
I was thinking, it would be nice for husbands to start a string of discussions on this forum to be able to share their feelings, fears, thoughts, especially for families who chose to keep the diagnosis to themselves.  We have this forum, they have nowhere to turn.  I thought of that when we got the diagnosis and my husband admitted that this waiting was driving him insane.  Just a thought.
Thank you and God Bless each of You.

by snowtree, Aug 28, 2007 06:19PM
To: JoyGirl
Just something of my personal life:  My son (the one with the court problems) just got two tickets yesterday night, he ran a red light, and drove 80 on a 40 mile, also got into a fight with the brother of the girl, but thank God, nobody went to the hospital.  Let me breathe for a second.  JoyGirl, I feel sorry that you haven't gotten the results, it makes me mad that maybe they have it, but don't care that you are waiting anxiously for them, let's hope that's not the case.  About waiting 2 months for all this, I understand, I had my first biopsy on 7/6, didn't know the results until 7/27, called them and I'm embarrassed to say {gave them a piece of my mind, a big piece}, then they said I'm sorry, then I said {ok, I forgive you and the hospital for not caring about my breast}  life went on until I went to my second mammo and sono, then they found something, this time they told me the same day, {ok with that}, sent me to a ultrasound core needle guided biopsy on August 27, today is the 28th.  How many days from July 6 to August 28, {who knows, I don't want to count}, but you see how everything is a bureaucracy?  This morning I called the radiologist coordinator and asked her if I could leave the big gauze for 48 hours, instead of 24, she said yes, unless in sweaty, well is not, I washed it very well with soap and water in the shower and tomorrow I'll take it off, the little strips I will leave them for about 5 days, they start curling in the end and come out easily without pain, my husband is going to take out the big gauze tomorrow, I won't look.  Anyways, you are a great human being JoyGirl, we are eager to know your results, whatever they are you know you have friends here that care, and like you said {we won't tell anybody else}, we are here because we want to be, not because we have to, so you know this is GENUINE,  bye,     snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 28, 2007 06:41PM
To: boninclyde
You are so brave, first of all, let me congratulate you on your first year of surgery.  Every day we live is a gift from God,  {I want to tell you so many things, but my arm is hurting a little}, thank you for reading our comments, even one year later, I read yours too, and you bring light to this forum, please stay with us through all this we are going through, we can teach each other things, God put us together for a reason, August is not a good month for me either.  My beloved grandmother passed away on August 18th, 2001, and specially this year everything has been going bad {or so it seems for me}, I went to emergency this year with breathing problems, I thought I was going to die, I have a lot of personal problems, including a daughter in Iraq, life is stressful for me now, but if it wouldn't be for the strength that my Lord gives me I don't know where would I be, I was just telling my husband what I thought about a lot of things, and he was looking at me strangely, I told him how short life was and how hard it was, and at the same time how good God was, and that if I hated material possessions before {now I despise them}, that from now on I wasn't going to try to change anything, whatever will be will be, I got philosophical, lol.  It was so funny, my 14 year old twin daughter (being the most materialistic) brought me a bunch of shirts so I could give them to the poor kids, she just wanted to make me happy, I think.  It was a great sacrifice she made, but worth it, I want to instill in my children Love instead of Things, in Christmas I tell them not to give me anything, it was hard in the beginning and often that were mad at me, but I don't care, I am completely opposed to all this Thing oriented society that we are living in.  I didn't even found a reason for this computer that I'm writing in until I thought of an idea:  {I will use it to tell people about the Lord, something good has to come out , out of this}, and it has.  Well, once again, THANK YOU, and I hope you keep reading our comments and writing yours for many, many more years.  God Bless you!!!!!!!!!  Bye.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 28, 2007 09:30PM
To: ALL
JoyGirl - They have no idea how painful it is to wait for results! Hooray for your diagnosis.

ziggy - Please keep me posted on your results. I hope your stress ends soon. Are you back to school? We start tomorrow.

DemoNurse - This is one of the few places we can talk honestly about our breast problems where people understand what we're going through. It's so importanat to be able to talk (write) about what's bothering us and get the support we need. Outsiders just don't understand.

snowtree - I love your comment, "We're here because we want to be, so you know this is GENUINE."  That is so true.

by JoyGirl, Aug 28, 2007 10:45PM
To: Snowtree
Sorry about the problems with your son.  You do not need all that added stress at this time.  Hopefully he is earning money to pay for his mistakes.  I think it makes teens think more about what they are doing when it costs them.  I am guessing that he doesn't know what you are going through right now.  You are a very strong woman and I know you will get through this just fine.  He will come around and realize that he will have to stop getting into trouble if he wants to get himself on track.  I know it is a very trying time.  Hang in there.  I am going to pray for your son, too.

by snowtree, Aug 29, 2007 05:55AM
To: JoyGirl
Congratulations!!!!  I am so happy for you.  I will still pray for you and keep you in my prayer book.  You have been a ray of light to all of us here, we will surely miss communicating with you, please keep on checking on us, because we want to know how everything is with you, we care for you.  I will do what you told me about renting a happy movie, I like Christmas movies, I'm probably the only person renting Christmas movies in February and throughout the year, but that's me.  About my son you are so right, I love him a lot, but really, I want him to stop giving us stress, thank you for praying for him also.  I am happy for your husband too, he seems like he cares so much for you, just the fact that he was worried, I mean, is true what you say about husbands of wives with breast issues, they also need other people informing them, I mean, they know less than us about this issue, the only man that I remember from this forum is Marsha (the man that was worried about his wife), I wonder why never posted again, I hope he does.  JoyGirl, all these will teach us a lesson about life, how important are the little things that in a normal day we don't appreciate, it made me very sad when I read your post about taking you son to school, and even appreciating a long line, as long as you were there with him.  Now you will enjoy all the long lines for the rest of your life, lol, due to this.  I know what you mean, yesterday my twins wanted me to take them and three other friends to Burger King after school, in a normal day I would had said WHY DO I HAVE TO BE THE ONLY MOM THAT GIVE RIDES TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS?  Well, what do I tell you, "I said, sure, no problem, when we got there I chose to seat separate from them, so they can be themselves, and I was watching how carefree they were, three teenage girls and two teenage boys with no worries whatsoever, I heard their laughters and from far away I laughed with them, and all of a sudden this sadness came upon me, thinking, how precious this time is and all the others that I probably out of selfishness didn't enjoy, well I am learning to absorb all this teenage craziness with ease, I look at everyone in my house with this sadness inside of me, thinking, all the time that we've missed been mad, complaining, yelling, not listening to each other and I think of all the wasted times.  I keep on putting my life in order, until the Lord decides to take me home, I will learn to not get so mad like sometimes I do, I will learn to return phone calls, that most of the times I don't, and I will learn to put up with in-laws, that most of the times I don't want to see ever again, lol.  Well, friend, you have a little family here, anything that you want to talk about, please talk to us, and once again God Bless you.  A friend in Christ, snowtree.

by JoyGirl, Aug 29, 2007 08:11AM
To: snowtree
Thank you for your beautiful message and words of wisdom.
I think we can all live better lives now.  We won't sweat the small stuff and be grateful for EVERYTHING in our lives - all the events, the people, the experiences (good or bad) and all the lessons life has to teach us.  This test has taught me a lot and I know that I am very fortunate that I will be able to get out of this cycle of testing and waiting and worrying.  I know that there are many women out there that will be in treatment and have to continue that dreaded cycle.  I will continue to pray for them.  Do you know what one of the most valuable lessons that I can pass on as a result of this experience and of some of my other life's lessons through my job which allows people to open up and confide their most private experiences?  
Always be kind to everyone, we have no idea what they are going through.  So many people are carrying around such terror in their hearts, such fear, and are so delicate.  I try to smile at everyone, and say hi to passing strangers,  because you never know what they are going through.  I tell my kids this all the time.  BE KIND TO OTHERS, while it is easy to say, it is not so easy to live.  If everyone on this planet would make an effort to be more compassionate, what a better place this would be.
While I feel I have been walking around in a daze this past month or two, I don't know if anyone else noticed.  I again am so grateful to have had this forum.
Thank you again for EVERYTHING.  Are you expecting your results today?
I will be back to check on you!!!!

by maa64, Aug 29, 2007 12:37PM
To: all
This will be my last post. I got news today that they will do either a partial mastectomy or a full. I just don't want to write anymore and someone see my outcome and have them panic. I just have more to go through than the average person. They are moving very rapidly also. Went for my appt. this morning and tonight I have a MRI, bloodwork and soon I have to get into the plastic surgeon. I will definitely have chemo. So I will be a busy little gal, the next few weeks.
So my prayers are with you all.
I check on you all from time to time. Take care.

by snowtree, Aug 29, 2007 01:02PM
To: maa64
I'll be praying for you a lot, it was a pleasure to know you, even if it was only in the computer.  May God truly bless you.  maa64, I promise to you that as soon as I wake up every morning you will be the first person that I'll pray about, at least I am going to do this from August 30 to September 30, is a promise, my friend.  Please keep in touch, since we all want to know about you, we all care for you, and wish you the best.  Rembember always dear one, that you are special to God, He is sad seeing what you are going through, but rembember always that he is Almighty, all He have to do is snap a finger and everything will be back to normal.  maa64, I have a feeling that you are stronger than you think, you are so special maa64, I got to know the strong side of you, and you are (sound like) a gentle soul.  Fight the good fight of faith, may He bless you and give you peace that only you will know, may He be the hands of your surgeon, the One that counsels you throughout all this and the One that makes your chemo work perfectly with no side effect, beloved, please let us know whatever you are going through, we want to see your outcome, we want to know about it, don't matter if we panic or not, this is about you now, not us, we all have to deal with whatever our destiny puts in front of us, but with Him and us by our side.  My love goes to you.  Snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 29, 2007 01:24PM
To: DemoNurse
Waiting how it goes tomorrow,  I took my xanax like have an hour before the biopsy, even though my husband told me to take it 5 minutes before, no, no, that is too close.  Demo, I promise you that is not going to hurt, at all, my other biopsy back in 2003 was done without any medication, and it didn't hurt either, both biopsies were different, one was facing down, the other up, no pain involved, the reason that I took the xanax is because I hyperventilate due to chronic breathing problems, since I was a little girl, I breathe through my mouth, therefore, I might be tempted to move a lot.  You are going to write back tomorrow and see that what I am saying is true.  Listen, I took the bigger bandage today, after exactly 48 hours, instead of 24 like they say, the little strips I will not take out today, I will take them out in 2 or 3 days, my other biopsy was like this:  the little strip are all the same, ok, they start coming out at the ends little by little, but if you want to take them out early, please do, make sure you ask your radiologist, and go by what he tells you, is the best.  Demo, put ice the first 24 hours, like for 10 min. every hour, protect your breast from the direct coldness of the ice, make sure you don't sweat a lot, maintain your breast clean, I showered normally, soap and everything, but please like I said before, ask the radiologist first.  I will be praying for you, for your results as well.  Bye for now, snowtree.  Don't type too much the day of or after the biopsy, because this I'm noticing my whole arm is hurting a lot, due to the typing, only because of that, so let us know, but on your own time, relax, rest, be happy.  Happy face to you.

by JoyGirl, Aug 29, 2007 01:45PM
To: DemoNurse
DemoNurse: Good luck with the biopsy.  It REALLY does not hurt.  I got numbed with a local first, no problem.  The worst part is waiting for results.  Stay on your doctor to get you the results right away.  If you don't hear, call.  Just take it easy and use ice.  I froze ice packs that I made from snack sized ziploc bags.  Then I wrapped them in  a paper towel and put it right over the spot.
You will do fine, please don't worry.  You will be in our thoughts and prayers.

Snowtree: Keep us posted on your results.

Maa64:  Please come back and let us know how you are doing.  I really am concerned for you.  I agree with snowtree, you won't worry us.  We each have our own path.  As you said yourself, the cruelest thing we could do is not report in.  I know you will have challenging times ahead.  When you feel up to it, let us know how you are.  You helped me through a very trying time and I would love to be there for you, too.  Good luck to you and know that you will be in my thoughts and prayers always!

by DemoNurse, Aug 29, 2007 02:12PM
To: snowtree and all
Thanks for the prayers. I had not seen the results so I called my doctor and asked her to fax me a copy of the results. I just had the courage to read the results of the mammo today. It reads "diffuse normal appearing dense fibroglandular breast tissue without evidence of architectual distortion or assymmetry. In the lateral aspect of the right breast is a cluster of very small microcalcifications that measure 6x6x6 mm. No evidence of associated mass. Tissue diagnosis is recommended. Category 4 Suspicious for malignancy".

I will be going in for the stereotactic biopsy tomorrow at 1:00pm. I will be taking my Xanax about an hour or so before the procedure. I am very terrified. I went to work yesterday but it was difficult. I have spent most of the time in bed. I haven't been able to workout since the mammo last friday. My husband will post for me tomorrow to let everyone know how it went. They said that I will be prone on the table with my breast through a hole. My husband can't be in the room because it's too small so he will wait just outside the room for me. Then all I can do is hope for the results on Friday.

Snowtree thanks for the reassurances. I am very intolerant of pain or anything that may resemble pain/discomfort.

Please pray for me. I will be praying for all of you. Still waiting on pins and needles.
DemoNurse    

by JoyGirl, Aug 29, 2007 09:22PM
To: DemoNurse
You are lucky that they are moving quickly for you.  Remember that most of the biopsies are negative as mine was, and I was a BiRad class 4 suspicious abnormality.  The waiting is really hard but know that we will all be thinking of you and with you in spirit.  You will get through this.  Let us know how you are doing.  This is a wonderful place for you to vent and to find support.  I will be praying for you!

by labhusky, Aug 29, 2007 09:43PM
To: Anyone
I am scared!!!!!  My name is Carol.  I had a mamm, they saw something then I had to go back to get magnification.  What they saw were micro calcifications.  I guess theirs a cluster at 3:00 left breast.  I am going Friday 9/7 for a stereo tactic.  Gosh, when I got home tonight, I had a letter of referral to a general surgeon.  I have been very edgy and scared for these 2 weeks and that makes me even more nervous. You might say Im beside myself.  Im just curious if theirs a chance that clusters can be begnign too?  I had a friend at work offer to go there with me next Friday and that set me off in tears.  Can you tell me anything to calm me somewhat?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 29, 2007 09:59PM
To: maa64
This forum is for YOU! We can't be a support for you if you don't post and let us know how you're doing. Also, iIt helps others to hear about your treatment and provides important info for them. Please do not feel you're scaring others when you provide info. We all need a realistic picture of breast problems. If only people like me, with benign results post, that is not a true picture. At the same time, you will be busy undergoing treatment and may not have the time or energy to post and we certainly understand. I will pray for you. God be with you through your treatment.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 29, 2007 10:05PM
To: DemoNurse
I'm praying that your discomfort will be minimal tomorrow. I tend to get stressed pretty easy and find I can't do a normal exercise workout when I have troubling breast issues, either. I've started doing 15-20 min. of deep breathing exercises each day to get in the habit of setting a calm mood for myself.  I was very upset over work related issues last night when I went to bed. As I focussed on my  breathing and happy events in my life it really calmed me down. It still took me 2 hours to go to sleep (and that was after taking Tylenol P.M.) but at least the anxiety and tears stopped.

Please tell your husband how much we appreciate that he will post for you tomorrow. God be with you.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 29, 2007 10:11PM
To: labhusky
Sorry you have to go through this. It is upsetting to hear we have breast problems. Around 85% of microcalcs are benign. I personally have had 2 benign biopsies for microcalcs. Of course, some are cancerous. They just can't tell from mammogram, so a biopsy is the only way to get accurate results. Did you get a copy of your radiology report? It can help you put together a list of questions to ask the surgeon. I'll keep you in my prayers.

by snowtree, Aug 29, 2007 10:57PM
To: Labhusky
I can tell you about the cluster, because I've been having a cluster of micro calcification in my right breast almost 10 years, since 1998.  In my case is a mole inside my breast, and if I look at all my films I can even see it myself is like oval shape, with a lot of little round or oval shape inside.  Also, I know a lot of women that have micro calcifications that have been benign, don't stress over it, I am waiting for the results of a solid mass that measures 8, Birad 4, let's see.  Nobody can tell you for sure until you get your biopsy results, but all I can tell you is that there has been a lot of benign clusters of micro calcifications, I've been having mammograms since I was 27 years old, and I'm 46, I've had so many weird and different things in my breast, I had a biopsy of my left breast back in 2003, and it was benign, they didn't answer me like for 3 weeks back then, then they call me to go and see the doctor for the results forget about the phone, I think now is different, and after waiting almost 3 weeks and thinking that the doctor was going to tell me cancer, he told me to seat down, then he looked straight at my face and told me that it was benign, after I went through that I can go through anything, so once again, the days are coming and going so fast that you are not even going to feel it, (waiting until 9/7), the biopsy does NOT hurt at all, believe me.  Is nice meeting you and take care, keep posting.  Snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 29, 2007 11:05PM
To: Carol
One more thing, the reason that sometimes they send you to a general surgeon is because you could ask her or him more questions, that surgeon probably specializes in breast, I also went to one and she examined me and asked me questions to see if I should or should not have a biopsy, that is a normal procedure for some doctors (gyn), normal doctors don't know what the surgeon know, they are experts in breasts.  Bye.

by labhusky, Aug 29, 2007 11:42PM
To: Montana Girl and Snowtree
Thanks for the info.  I know I should be in bed but I think right now, I need to type.  Thank you for telling me its normal procedure and the dr that sent it is a gyn, and it was written like "based upon the info provided, the insurance company medical group has approved referral to the following Dr, blah blah.  This authorization is a conformation of medical necessity only and in not a guarantee of eligibility or benefit coverage.  Authorization for General surgeon consultation is valid from 08/27-11/25/07.  It just took me aback because I havent done the biopsy yet and even though Im new here (glad I found it), I tend to panic alot (can you tell?).  I have high blood pressure and I dont take it for that reason.  Couple years back, Id take it and then Id panic because it was high.  Id take it 2 minutes later it was higher.  I worked myself in a tizzy then drive myself to urgent care and guess what?  Theyd tell me it was high too.  I guess this is part of the "normal" procedure for this gyn then.  I was going to call him tomorrow to ask him why I got this and I havent gone for the biopsy yet, but I guess I wont now.  You saved him Snowtree!!!!

by Joanswa, Aug 29, 2007 11:49PM
To: snowtree
Did you ever experience a peeling or dry itchy nipple?  Any blood?  That has been my symptoms & like you, I started having MAM's at 27 & I will be 46 this year.    My last showed calcifications in a straight line which my doctor said concerns her.  I only saw two almost a half inch apart.

I had the stereotactical needle biopsy today to no avail.  They just couldn't get the calcifications.  And the marker wouldn't stay.  They did get surrounding tissue & are hoping it is enough of an indicator.  They mentioned I may be asked to come back in for another test.  I have a family history.  My mom was diagnosed at 49.  I have a hematoma.....kind of sore.  The procedure was not all bad.  I am just scared......not knowing what to expect.  My doctor said she would call me this coming Tuesday to let me know their findings.

My nipple symptoms concern me.

Thanks!
joan    

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 06:03AM
To: Joanswa
I have never had a peeling  or dry itchy nipple, nor blood, but I have weird nipples to begin with, because they look a little bit to one side, and is very noticeable, my orela became very large after the birth of my first child in January 1983, then the outer part of my left oreola is very short and the right is much wider, my nipples have like a lot of milk ducts, like little, little bumps (I would say), then also my nipples are very large, my breast size is either 36 C or 38 C, normal size, I guess, after breast feeding my first daughter I started developing like little black heads, one was very large and seemed like I had a little rock in there, and I wise very unwise and decided to pinch it with all my might and made a hole that I'm needed plastic surgery after that, lol, but I just cleaned it afterwards and I developed a scar there the size of the biopsy, but no problems due to that at all.  Like about 10 or 15 years ago, I'm not sure I saw I had a tiny hair around my nipple and I decided to put "nair", the cream that some people use for facial hair in my nipple (yes, incredible!!!!), I did this almost everyday for about 3 month, not even reading that you should never put it in your nipples, I developed a growth the size of a quarter, it got pink, hot, big, but I decided not to tell anybody, my husband noticed, but man don't know about this so it didn't concerned him, well that was long time ago, before that in 1987 I had a another child, one year after that I started having mammos at 27, at 31 I had twins, then my gyn told me that I had a lot of estrogens, and if I had more babies, I would probably never have one again, but only multiple births, it runs in my family and just the fact that I had them already, so I went ahead and tied my tubes, then after that my breasts have been behaving worst then never, even though I breast feeded my twins, kept my nipples as clean as I could, so I only blame everything with the breasts to STRESS, nothing else, unless all those crazy things I did came to hunt me later, I wouldn't know in this life time.  Welcome you you this forum.  A friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 06:10AM
To: maa64
Dear maa64, just like I told you I would, I prayed for you first thing in the morning, I asked God for your healing, for a miracle, an abundance of strength and mighty faith.  God bless you my friend.  Snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 06:17AM
To: Carol
I think you should see the surgeon before the biopsy, only for the fact that she will explain everything the way it is, why you should have it done, and most importantly she or he will check your breast thoroughly, she will check under your arms, underneath, everywhere, she found a thickening under my right breast that didn't even showed in the mammo, but she told me not to worry, because it was normal for women after 40, so I don't have to follow up on that one.  Thank God.  Bye for now.  She and her nurse even gave me a bear hug, and wished me well.    

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 06:24AM
To: Montana Girl
I was thinking last night what a great person you are, that you are always so concerned about all of us, but I like to know if you need me to pray for anything, because you seem to me like the kind of person (that you don't find nowadays) that like to listen, but don't interrupt, you have so great inputs, and you are well informed in all, let us know how everything is with you, and please, never leave us, because your help and support are very important to us all here.  God Bless you!!!!!!!  Snowtree.

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 06:46AM
To: ziggy 123
I hope you are reading this:  I want to know how everything is with your heart, breast, stress, whatever problem you have, thank you for reporting your one year mark.  CONGRATULATIONS!!  How is the xanax going?  Do you have to take it on a daily basis?  My husband started having a lot of stress after my daughter was sent to Iraq, the doctor asked him: What would you like to live with better, the stress or the side effects of xanax?  I don't really agree with any medicine, to tell you the truth, but I am not oblivious to take it if I have to, only you know, because only you know what you can deal with, my mother takes almost all the medications in the market, I don't know what kind of stomach she has, because she has never developed an ulcer, she believes that if something hurts, specially her nerves that she will take whatever it is, I mean, she even did it while pregnant with me, she even had to have special tests to make sure that everything will be ok with me, because she exposed me to harmful stuff, but God wanted me here for some reason, so here I am 46 years later, I'm amazed, lol.  Well, ziggy I just don't want you to ignore the side effects of xanax, be informed and I pray to God for Him to heal your heart problems and blood pressure.  So long for now.  A friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 07:28AM
To: JoyGirl

by maa64, Aug 30, 2007 07:32AM
To: snowtree and montanagirl
i didn't tell you, the doctor took the 98% cure rate off the table. my husband and I just cried and cried and cried last nite. everytime i go to sleep, i almost make it to slumber and then some terrible horrible thought comes into my head. i won't have a breast for 3 - 6 mos. i forget why they are not reconstructing immediately. they are not sure if the cancer spread. had to go to the hospital for a mri of my breasts. if anyone has to do that it is not bad at all. they shoot dye into you and then put you in the machine for 30 min. I am not scared in closed spaces. if you are you might want to take something. i am going for a second opinion today. i was completely without hope yesterday after talking with that surgeon.
thank you for prayers, only thing that keeps me going today.

by Joanswa, Aug 30, 2007 08:50AM
To: snowtree
Thanks so much for the time you took to share =) I am happy to have discovered this forum page.  

I am still searching to see if anyone else had nipple symtoms I have.  I thought they would go through the nipple when trying to get a core sample.  Instead they went through the breast tissue.  

Thanks again

by JoyGirl, Aug 30, 2007 09:06AM
To: maa64
I feel really badly for you.  I have imagined how horrifying it must be.  It is really important for you to force yourself to think about some happy things.  Try to get your mind off of it once in a while.  Your body needs a break from some of this stress.  Watch a funny movie and try to lose yourself in it.  I really believe in positive energy attracting positive things in your life.  There is an author named Louise Hay who offers affirmations for people that are illness specific.  For breast cancer, she believes that we are holding onto resentments and that we must release any resentments that we have either toward ourselves or toward everyone else.  She had breast cancer and took no treatments and is cancer free now.  As soon as I realized that I had a good chance of having cancer, I started working on that, just letting go of anything I hung onto, any baggage, and really in my heart tried to forgive the people in my life who I felt I blamed or felt wronged me.  It lifted a tremendous amount of weight off my shoulders.  I truly felt so much better afterwards.  Another emotion that she relates to breast cancer is overmothering and caring for others instead of yourself.  She recommends going inward and letting go of the need to control others (such as your kids/family) and putting more emphasis on achieving a balance of nuturing yourself and others.  
I know right now you are forced to put yourself first because your condition warrants it.
Try to let go of any unforgiveness, anger, resentment.  It will make your journey easier.
It will lighten the load as crazy as it sounds.  I really benefit from her work.
Did the doctor give you any cure rate figures?  Focus on the percentage that is curable.  Know in your heart that you will be on the lucky side of the statistic.
I know it is going to be  a long hard journey, but you are very strong and have a strong husband by your side.
You and your family will work through this.  I know it will be hard waiting for the reconstruction but it will eventually happen and you will feel better about that.
I am glad that you are continuing to post. I will continue to pray for you and your family.
Blessings!

by JoyGirl, Aug 30, 2007 09:08AM
To: Snowtree
Have you gotten your results yet?  I am praying that they are negative.  God Bless You.

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 03:32PM
To: JoyGirl
No, I have not received any call from the hospital yet.  You are a joy indeed, you have make me feel so good about what you just wrote, about holding resentments, yes, I do hold a lot of resentments that I as a Christian should let go off, I've been hurt by a lot of close people to me.  One thing that I learned though,is that I would never do again is letting a friend of mine come too often to my house, I put limits, and like I said before I do not have any friends outside of this forum.  Thank God for all of you, because here we say the truth, and we don't talk behind anybody's back.  Nor do anything behind our backs, like a traitor.  Let me go on saying that you have a lot of wisdom, keep writing things like that because you made my day today, I was down and now I feel positive, down because of exactly what you said, a lot of resentment, people tell me that I am very sensitive, I wish God will change me, but my mistake is that I give too much of me and most of the time I don't get much back, not because I'm expecting it, but because I think is the right thing to expect, I don't care about myself most of the time, I look like a bad word, I should do as you say JoyGirl, take care of myself a little more, and about controlling other, I let that go long time ago.  Bye and thank you, a friend...snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 03:55PM
To: DemoNurse
Today I was praying for you exactly at 1:00 p.m. I hope everything went good, I hope that nothing hurt, I hope that your results come back benign, and also I wanted to tell you, that today I finally took the two strips that I had in the incision, I took them out in the bathtub when I was showering not bathing.  They came out easily, no pain at all, the first bandage I took out exactly 48 hours later, also I did something stinky I haven't used deodorant ever since the biopsy, I don't want to put nothing there that could by any chance go to the incision, but that was my invention (not the doctor's order, she will probably think that I am gross, lol.) tomorrow I will start using deodorant again for the sake of everybody that is around me, I don't smell that bad though, just a little, I'm trying not to go anywhere, but everytime that I do I change my shirt, just in case.  DemoNurse, just so you know that you are important in this forum, tell us tomorrow (don't work that arm today) how it went, or if your husband can tell him to let us know your experience with the biopsy, we are getting so used to all this that we might as well become radiologists, we'll be great at it, but this is a great big family that we have here, God Bless us all, I pray that His grace falls upon all of us, because we all need it, whenever I receive my results I will let everyone know, I think my husband wants me to call because he is eager to know, specially because he sprained his ankle two days ago pretty bad, and he is bored, lol.  But everyone is a world of its own, and I am a weird one, I say to myself, if is bad news I could enjoy one more day without the news, if is good so be it, my husband told me if is bad news than I will have one day ahead to get a cure, but if is bad than I'll be a day behind.  No!!!! I will hear me this time and the Lord of course.  Lately my worry button is out of order, the only thing that I am worried now for is my daughter in Iraq, yesterday night, at 11:30 p.m. for us, she called me crying hysterically, I thought something happened, she was having like a nervous break down, she didn't hear from her fiancee for two days (he is in another part of Iraq) and she was sobbing like a little girl, it almost broke my heart, is so hard for everyone over there, she will be coming back in November, God willing first.  Well, I'm sorry I've been so self centered for a little, I really worry about you and care about your prognosis, we all do in this forum, so stay resting, relax, take it easy, pray a lot and think a little.  Wishing you the very best.  A friend in Christ...snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 04:05PM
To: maa64
You see what I tell you, even though everything is going bad now (so you think) one thing is positive, you are not afraid of closed spaces, most of the people are, another positive thing is that you have a husband that care for you, a lot of women don't, another positive thing is that you have us that are praying for you to heal completely, other people don't, and one more positive thing and the most important one is that you have An Awesome God in which you believe, a lot of people don't have hope, because they don't believe.  God Bless you maa64, I will write to you in a little while again.  snowtree

by DemoNurse, Aug 30, 2007 07:17PM
To: The great people in this form
My wife had her biopsy today. She took 2 extra strength tylenol, 1 xanax and a benadryl before the biopsy. She literally slept through it. She said that she didn't feel any pain. She was able to ask the radiologist questions although her speech was slow and slurred. I wasn't allowed in the room but I did see that she laid on a table. She requested a blanket because it was cool in the room. The procedure took about 1.5 hours and she was done. She has an ice pack in her shirt and she is sleeping mostly. She denies any pain and said that she didn't feel any pain during the procedure. exceot for the needle that was used to numb the area. She did say that there was a sound from the vacuum that was startling from time to time. That was it. I want to thank everyone here for your support because she feels that this is a forum where people understand where she is. I try to comfort but it's this forum that she has also found comfort. She is sleeping now and we will take it easy tonight. Tomorrow depending on how she feels we will take the kids to the State Fair. We have decided that our lives will not revolve around the results. She has consistently thought that the biopsy would be the hardest. We pray that everything is normal but we are prepared for a different result. We are praying for everyone out there who are facing this same predicament. Have a great night.

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 07:33PM
To: Thank you for letting us know
I am so glad that she slept through it, tell her please to rest her arm, I've been using it a lot and have some pain going up and down, tell her that we are here for her, to support her and pray for her, not to fear, we are all friends and understand each other very well.  If she has any question, she can ask us anything, each of us know already a  lot about each of us, that's good.  Thank you so much for letting us know how your wife is doing.    Good night, snowtree.

by snowtree, Aug 30, 2007 10:07PM
To: Tammie
I understand that you are going through hard times now, but we want to go through them with you, do you want to tell us something?   Just like with maa64 I will pray for you from today to September 30 first thing in the morning, I just want to see you both smiling again, both of you seem to be strong enough to go through this, I don't know how I will react when I get my results, don't know them yet, we'll see.  I had a lot of problems with them reaching me to tell me that my mammogram was abnormal, but I don't want to get into this again, it makes me mad.  Anyways, both of you are carrying a basket full of lemons now, but remember that those lemons can be made into lemonade, God can change everything, there are so many women out there that have survived this disease.  Let me give you some statistics of breast cancer:  from age 40-49, one out of 68 women will have it, from 50-59, one out of 37 will have it, and from 60-69, one out of 26, but the lucky (blessed ones) are the ones that know they have it and can be treated with chemo, radiation or whatever method the doctors use, the unlucky ones are the ones that think they will never get it and decide not to have a mammogram, look at the statistics, how it goes up with age.  There are 26.4 million of breast cancer diagnosis worldwide, and each year another million will hear the same words you heard, albeit in many different languages.  Evaluate all the treatment options, and begin treatment, for sure get a second opinion.  Some degree of fear, depression, and panic is normal, you'll probably face all of these on a regular, sometimes daily, basis.  Know that your diagnosis has not turned you into a walking corpse, no matter whether you've been told your cancer is treatable or terminal.  Today you're alive, and you can stop, think, and act on your own behalf.  Don't make assumptions about where you are headed until you have more information.  Maa64 and Tammie, I don't really know what both of you are going through, but I am trying to put myself in your place, and imagine how I would act, if my results come back positive, I am not asking you to do nothing that I would not do, I will apply all these to myself.  Good night.  I will post tomorrow again, ok.  Snowtree

by Montana girl 06, Aug 30, 2007 10:14PM
To: maa64
You're very wise to go for a second opinion. Is your pathology also being sent for a second look? You have so much to deal with. I wish I could just reach out and give you a big hug. I will keep you in my prayers.

by JoyGirl, Aug 30, 2007 10:28PM
To: DemoNurse & Hubbie
Tell her to be careful at the fair.  I would not take any rides that have a shoulder bar across or that toss you around.  She will need to give the incision a day or two to heal.  The next day after my biopsy I was doing laundry, digging through the pile, lifting the wet jeans from the washer to the dryer, etc. and just that motion caused me to bleed pretty heavily through my shirt from the incision.  I really don't think it would have happened if I didn't jump right back into 'normal' activities.  Make sure she has ice on it tonight and knows that we are all thinking and praying for her.  Bless you for coming here and taking care of this for her.  This forum was so important to me during the whole process.  I had a birad class 4 also, and it was negative.  I still come here to "talk to my forum friends".
May I recommend you create a screen name and a post of your own "For husbands/significant others", It would be nice for you to be able to talk about it with other guys, from a male perspective.

by Montana girl 06, Aug 30, 2007 10:33PM
Carol - everytime I have something suspicious in my breast my doctor sends me for a mammogram, ultrasound, and appointment with a surgeon. She always tells me if the radiology center tells me it's nothing, I can cancel the appointment with the surgeon. But setting up the appointment ahead of time I save a few days of stress waiting...

snowtree - I've had 3 benign biopsies but continue to have problems. Everytime I go for a mammo the radiologists disagree on whether to do a biopsy or 6 month follow-up. Based on my previous biopsies my surgeon (plus a second surgeon) recommended 6 month follow-up. I was very stressed about each of those biopsies and know how difficult it is to have nobody to talk to that understands. That's why I keep posting here. I'm a teacher and school started this week, so I won't be able to post as often, but I still like to check in  and hear how everyone's doing.

by JoyGirl, Aug 30, 2007 10:34PM
To: Snowtree
Sorry about your hurts.  Forgive those people, realize that they were coming from a different place in life than you and you may never understand why they did the things they did.  In their own way, they were doing what they knew how to do.  Accept where they are coming from, and forgive them, and learn whatever you can from the situation so that your life is better. Really try to let it go.  Yup, let it go.  Sounds simple but may take some work.
I agree that this forum is a place to speak the truth.  I think that is part of the reason we all feel so close to one another.  No one is trying to impress each other, it is OK if we cry while we type, no one sees....  It is just a private place where we can come and be at peace with each other.
It is refreshing in these challenging times, isn't it?

by Montana girl 06, Aug 30, 2007 10:34PM
To: DemoNurse
It was so nice of your husband to let us know how your biopsy went today. I'm glad it went well and will continue to pray for good results.

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 06:09AM
To: maa64
Prayed for you again this morning.  I feel for you and wish you the best.  God Bless.  snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 06:11AM
To: Tam
Prayed for you too, this morning.  I asked God to do a miracle and fix your wounds, to give you strength and make your body whole again.  God Bless.  snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 06:17AM
To: Montana girl
How fortunate you are that you had 3 benign biopsies.  When are you going for your next mammo?   Let us know as soon as that happens so we can pray for you.  No wonder you are so smart (you are a teacher), now we know.  In my report card you get an A+.  Let us know always.  snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 06:28AM
To: JoyGirl
You and your wise words.  What a truth, is ok if we cry while we type, no one sees.  You are a soothe in my time of affliction.  Keep it up.  Wise us up.  Thank you for staying with us  We need you here my friend.  snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 06:35AM
To: DemoNurse
How are you doing this morning?  Yes, be carefull in the State Fair, no injuries please, just seat down in a place and eat all the goodies while everyone else get dizzy, lol.  Just kidding!  Have fun, but take care of yourself, don't injure that arm, try to rest as much as you can.  I've never seen a messier house than mine today, dust everywhere, the carpet needs to be vacuumed, clothes needs to be washed, bathroom needs to be cleaned, and I don't feel like doing much, but right now I'm taking care of myself first.  I ask God to do a miracle and at least let me not see it as bad.  Write back whenever you have a chance.  Salute your husband from me.  snowtree

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 06:39AM
To: All
My philosophical side of me:   HOW VAIN IT IS TO SIT DOWN TO WRITE WHEN YOU HAVE NOT STOOD UP TO LIVE.  Sell your clothes and keep your thoughts.  AS IF YOU COULD KILL TIME WITHOUT INJURING ETERNITY.  Cultivate the habit of early rising.  It is unwise to keep the head long on a level with the feet.  By:  Henry David Thoreau

by maa64, Aug 31, 2007 07:13AM
To: all
I have decided to take you all along on my journey. You will learn from my mistakes and you will gain hope from my victories. First as far as holding onto resentments, I go to a counselor a mentor actually I call him my Yoda. I was extremely hurt by something that happened at my church. He has taught me a lot. I am fortunate to have him in my life and by my side. I am blessed. I spend about 1/2 to 1 hour each morning with God. I read Psalms, then Admit or confess sin, request (prayer requests and then thanksgiving. Then I read Old testament, new testament and proverbs. So I don't really think I am holding onto resentments, but I will spend time with God and ask for revelation. Thanks for the hint. As a mother I am not sure how to balance the giving to others syndrome. It something God placed into all of us. But I go to my counselor today and I will ask Yoda, to review that.
I went for a second opinion and this man gave me hope. The first doctor was a professional saw me as a patient. She started out with how far the calcifications are spread, then proceeded, to talk about partial mastecomy - the whole way to masectomy. Since my breast size is so small (only a B) she felt my breast would look better if it was removed since such a large portion had to be taken away. Then in 3 - 6 mos. a reconstruction would take place. Also she told me since I am so young 43 I would definitely have chemotherapy. Also that she had a lot of tools to use since I am so healthy, (yea right, I have cancer get real). That since it is estrogen driven, we could remove my ovaries, and we would give me the drug tamofin (spelling) and that would block all estrogen. She was going on a full frontal attack. She informed me that I would probably go into early menopause, which meant hot flashes, vaginal dryness and other things.
This was just TMI for one day. Satan had me on the fast track to as much as human hell one could take.
My doctor yesterday, told me that it isn't his decision to do chemotherapy, it is the onocologist. A blood test reveals that. Plus he works with a team of doctors and every Wed. they review all the cases in the office and will make decisions collectively. He told me he will do everything he can to save my breast first. If that is my desire. He said until he has the MRI of both breasts he won't go over any options. FACT: 85% of calcifications in women's breast are benign, the fact that I am in the 15% is unfortunate but I am in an EARLY stage of breast cancer. Very curable, but he needs to know all the facts before he can give me a diagnosis. He made no promises, but assured me he is in the business of saving women. He loves his job and loves saving people. Each time he gave me bad news he counter with something positive or stopped and allowed me to get on board, gave my mind time to cushion the blow. He felt bad about my hematoma. He was just so compassionate. The other doctor maybe better, I don't know but if I go into this without hope I know my prognosis is not as good. The lesson, this is your battle, and it is a battle if something in your gut (in my case - God is directing me somewhere else) tells you something is wrong - move on. Find your soldiers carefully because we are the generals in this battle and God is the commander in chief. If it is moving too quickly, MRI's, plastic surgeons, etc. ask if it can be slowed down. Your brain just can't take all this info. in, process it and make good decisions. And please find those prayer warriors to pray when you can't. This is the most important thing, you need to break through Satan's plans for hell in your life, he came to steal, destroy and kill. If you can't pray find someone who can!
Take care all. Thanks snowtree and montana girl for your prayers. I feel that we feel out of control with this diagnosis and we go with whatever is decided for us which makes us victims, I stopped being a victim and my new doctor is giving me time to make some decisions. I felt out of control but God was in control the whole time. I am definitely learning to lean on Him wholly.

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 07:19AM
To: All
Let's make believe that we all have cancer, and let's make believe that we all have not.  We are always too busy to make believe.   Most of us find ourselves re-evaluating our lives and our priorities once we begin to accept or diagnosis.  Let's take advantage of this urge and think about our lives.  Evaluate your goals and your values, and set your sights on what you need in order to be happy.  Don't give your life to this disease.  Try to maintain as many of your normal routines as possible.  Keep going to the gym, and don't stop watching happy movies (as JoyGirl says).  Stay as active as possible, and keep your eyes on the prize, you still have a lot of living to do.  Learn about healthy lifestyles.  All these things will help us take control at a time when it may feel like we have no control(God is in control, always), let's give ourselves a brake.  We might need oncologists, nurses, social workers, and psychologists, but we really need us.  We might even want to get a third opinion about our treatment options.  If the doctor minds (TOUGH LUCK, DOC), these are our bodies that God gave us and we ultimately own the decisions about what happens (NOT THE DOCTORS).  I have an idea to help us be organized:  WRITE THE PHONE NUMBERS OF ALL YOUR DOCTORS, HOSPITALS, INSURANCE COMPANY, WHATEVER ON A COLOR CODED PRINTER PAPER, CUT IT AROUND THE PHONE NUMBERS AND BUY YOURSELVES SCOTCH GROSS FINISH TRANSPARENT TAPE (Walgreen's have it)  AND PASTE IT ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR (DON'T WORRY IF IT DOESN'T LOOK PRETTY, WHO CARES!!!!!  It's very convenient, accessible, you don't have to be looking everywhere saying ( where is that stupid number now, lol.)  I do this with all my important numbers, no one likes it here, but you know what?  I am the one that have to be calling the pediatrician, the school, the insurance company, etc.  A few more things:  My husband have to cousins with breast cancer, they were diagnosed this year.  One from the 40-49 group, the other from the 60-69 group.  Each of us has some info. that others might not know.  Cancer is no longer necessarily a death sentence.  It is, however, likely to be the fight of our lives.  Rock singer Melissa Etheridge, and pop singer Kylie Minogue, and many, many other famous people have been diagnosed with this disease.  Do you know that 87% of us survive breast cancer five years after diagnosis, that is a promising prognosis.  The will to live does play a part in the outcome.  Even if we ever die of this disease, let nobody say that we went easy, no one will ever say that we lost the battle to cancer, we are going out a winner, regardless.  
So yes, just the fact that we are women we are in danger of developing breast cancer.  Let's keep our mammos in a yearly basis, no matter what.  And yes, unfortunately we have to believe the doctors (radiologist) whatever that when they see something kind of weird in there, that we should do whatever it takes, pain and all to catch it on time.  Come on, I used to be one that said "I have faith in God and I don't need doctors, if God wants to take me, so be it", but you know that someone opened my eyes and straightened me out by telling me that I WAS TEMPTING GOD IN WHAT I WAS DOING, THAT IF I HAD THE FAITH THAT I SAID I DID THAT I WOULD GO TO THE DOCTOR AND DO THE TESTING AND HAVE FAITH THAT IF GOD WANTED TO TAKE ME HE WOULD STILL DO, THAT I WAS USING THAT REASONING BECAUSE I WAS REALLY SCARED, AND THAT IF MY CAR BROKE, HOW COME I TAKE IT TO THE MECHANIC, IF GOD COULD FIX IT, INSTEAD, THAT IF ANY OF MY APPLICANCES BROKE (THE SAME), EVEN THOUGH I'VE HAD APPLIANCES THAT HAVE BEEN FIXED THROUGH PRAYERS, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD THE MONEY TO FIX IT, yes, miracles do happen, I've seen them too much in my life to say that they don't.  But, God want us to be pro-active (Not to help Him, because give me a break, He doesn't need any help from us), but just to see that we appreciate the breath He gives us, that we just don't take it for granted.   Well, friends I won't be writing anymore today, because I'm only getting two to three hours of sleep time, and I have the darkest circles around my eyes, I will try to lay down for 45 minutes, at least.  Write to you soon.  God Bless All Of Us.  snowtree

by maa64, Aug 31, 2007 07:21AM
To: All
Forgot to tell you. Be very careful I urge you to get a second opinion when the surgeon talks about removing your breast. This surgeon told me that he gets paid more from the insurance company for a full masectomy and it is much more easier to remove the whole breast, than try to save it. Less time, more money. This is a fact that must enter in when making your decision. If you really want to try to save your breast, you must find a surgeon who agrees with your philosophy. Some women would rather have the whole breast removed because you can't get cancer in something that isn't there. I just would rather not be parted out. But that is my decision.

by maa64, Aug 31, 2007 07:27AM
To: snowtree
I know all about dark circles and lack of sleep. Last night was the first night I really slept since I got this terrible diagnosis. I will pray you will sleep like a baby.

by JoyGirl, Aug 31, 2007 08:14AM
To: maa64
I am so glad you have decided to stay on board with us.  I am also grateful that you went for a second opinion and found the new doc who you can relate to.  He sounds so much more compassionate.  Maybe he is the answer to our prayers. Hope is so important right now as you know.  I remember a plague my friend had hanging up in her bathroom (of all places), but it said, "Keep your face toward the sunshine, and all life's shadows will fall behind you."  I can't give credit to the author but that just popped in my head and I felt compeled to share it.
God bless you as you work through the details and the decisions.

by JoyGirl, Aug 31, 2007 08:15AM
To: snowtree
Well said.  Thanks for sharing all of that.
I will pray for good results for you today.

by JoyGirl, Aug 31, 2007 08:25AM
To: maa64
Thought:  If you must microwave, do so in a glass/pyrex type dish.  Never microwave in plastic/Tupperware type stuff.  It produces phthalates which are xenoestrogens, which mimmick estrogen in the body.  They fool the body and bind to our estrogen receptor sites.
It is similar to what happens when you drink from plastic water bottles that get over 100 degrees.  They get over that temp sitting in your car on a warm sunny day.  You should drink out of glass at home but on the go, you should get a bottle that has a number 5 or 7 in the recycle triangle.
Many of the sports bottles that you buy and refill have this higher density plastic which is less likely to leach.  Just make sure that when you empty it, you let it dry out completely.  I try to dry mine out (just take the lid off and invert it overnight) each night so that you don't get mold or bacteria growing in it.  Water is important for your body.  Make sure you are drinking adequate amounts.
Also, the hysterectomy seems harse.  I don't know enough about that but it seems like that would generate a lot more money/insurance, and I would really weigh that decision.  What are the risks or benefits to doing that if they are healthy organs?  I just don't like the idea of being forced into menopause while you are going through all the rest of this.
May God make your decisions easier and obvious to you. I pray that He will make your path clear.

by DemoNurse, Aug 31, 2007 10:37AM
To: All
Hello everyone,
I am doing great after my biopsy. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, I mostly slept through it after my cocktail (2 extra strength tylenol, 1mg. xanax and 25mg. benadryl). I remember when the radiologist tried to give me the first shot of novacaine-I almost jumped off the table. I was so nervous. When I regrouped then she was able to do what she needed to do and get me out of there. I saw the tissue that was removed. They got all the calcifications out and put in a marker. My husband gave me 2 more tylenol about 7:00pm and I slept until 2:00am. He did switch out the ice packs a few times. This morning I don't have any pain. Just some soreness when my arm brushes against my breast. The pressure dressing is still on and I will leave it there until tonight. I know if I don't hear today I won't hear until Tuesday. I am just taking it easy today-did laundry and cleaning yesterday. I will do the fair over the weekend. My husband barely slept last night because he was so concerned for me. He went to work early today and slept in the car before going in. Everytime the phone rings I am terrified it's then with bad news.

In any event this is a great forum and no matter what the results are I will continue to post. Thanks for helping me through this very difficult time.
DemoNurse

by JoyGirl, Aug 31, 2007 01:42PM
To: DemoNurse/All
DemoNurse:  I know exactly what you mean about the phone ringing.  At one point while I was overanxiously awaiting the results, my mom came over unexpectantly.  I hadn't told her any of what was going on.  Of course the phone rang, it was my husband, anxiously wondering why I wasn't calling.  I literally felt like throwing up when the phone rang. I didn't want to answer but I was dying to find out, but afraid at how I was going to play off the phone call.
It is the absolute worst feeling, and just to prep you, the waiting is the worst.  You torture yourself and you don't even know if you need to be thinking the worst, but our minds just keep working.  I am hoping and praying that you get the results today.  I waited 28 days, and I was numb the whole time, I lost a month of my life waiting.  It is hard to focus on anything else.

All:  Here is an interesting exercise to get our minds off the worries.  When no one is home, put on your favorite upbeat song and dance like nobody's watching.  I did that today for the first time in a long time and I have to tell you, I felt a little silly at first, even considered closing the drapes, but just went with it.  When the song was over, I felt revitalized and eneretic and like my life was coming back.  Just had to share that.  Something to try to change your mood or state of mind....

by DemoNurse, Aug 31, 2007 02:49PM
To: All
I just heard from the breast center and they said that what I have are fibrocystic changes. No cancer!!! I am so thankful. Everyone here provided something for me to learn from. I now have energy and the will to get out of the bed. I have the power to face the small things that creep into your life and derails your best intentions/plans. I take this as a test. I need to live life alittle more and forget all the small stuff. I need to start forgiving and praying that I am the best person I can be. I have room for improvement and I will be working on me.

Since my husband was the only one that knew what I was going through I don't think I will tell the kids. It will only disturb them and I don't want them to worry about me. I will pray for all of us.
DemoNurse

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by Hey Judie, Aug 31, 2007 08:03PM
To: all
I am scheduled for breast biopsy on 9/11.  My initial exam was on 8/07, followed by Spot CC on 8/16. The finding read as follows: There is a spiculated 1 cm mass...with associated calcifications which are pleomorphic. This is highly suspicious for neoplasm and biopsy is recommended. BI-RADS 5. Ultrasound was also done on 8/16 with findings of two separate lesions.  A stereotactic procedure will be performed to the mass found on the mammo.  Followed by a 2nd procedure to biopsy the lesion found by ultrasound. My primary doctor telephoned me of the findings and recommendation immediately, along with a prescription for zanax.  I mean I had not even reached my car as I left the hospital. Here's my question.  How typical is it that I am now waiting for these procedures (26 days), agonizing what the end result will be?

by tamknit, Aug 31, 2007 09:51PM
To: all

by tamknit, Aug 31, 2007 10:01PM
To: all
Oops, sorry about the last post, hit enter too soon.  I guess I will keep posting for a little while, though should probably join a different forum.  I went for a first opinion and a second opinion on Tues, the day after the diagnosis... I am definitely on the fast track, my husband is pulling out all the stops.  Both surgeons recommended the same thing.  The kind of cancer that I have is a combo... both invasive ductal and invasive lobular.  Because the likelihood is so high that the unaffected breast will also become involved, they recommend doing a double modified radical mastectomy.  Surgery is scheduled for 9/13.  They both said that they would respect my right to keep the unaffected breast, however I would need to do mammograms every 3 months, and they would biopsy EVERYTHING!  That is no way to live, in my opinion. I see the oncologist on 9/6, and will most likely have 6 months of chemotherapy and radiation.  I haven't told my kids yet (5 year old girl, adopted from China and a 9 year old bio boy).  I called a good friend who is a child psychiatrist and he said to wait as long as possible... even the day before surgery if possible.  Both my husband and I agree.  Currently, my husband and I and the kids are staying with my lovely mother in law, she is treating me to much retail therapy.  Spent $250 today on a robe and pj's for the hospital at Nordstroms.  Got a big hug from the all the Nordie ladies.  I'm feeling pretty good, strong even.  I will try to keep in touch.
Tammie

by snowtree, Aug 31, 2007 11:23PM
To: To All
I will try to post for all of you tomorrow.  No answer yet for me.  I called the hospital and answering machines answered me everywhere (no human beings).  I've been fighting the flu since yesterday, sore throat, earache, dizziness and the works.  All the dust in my house, I guess.  Miss you all and praying for all of you.  A friend in Christ. snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 01, 2007 09:29AM
To: DemoNurse
Congratulations!!  This taught you a lesson, and please never forget it.  Don't sweat the small stuff, and with God by yourside everything is small.  I am a busy bee (chicken without a head all the time), I stree myself sometimes I think, I want to be still and know that He is God (not me).  Learn, get the wisdom that God know how to give.  Look, He did something wonderful for me since this last week, I had the biopsy on the 27th (monday), still don't know the results, but you know what?  Truthful to God, I don't know why, but I have not worried about that at all, I called yesterday because my husband told me that I've been proud (not true), he is Worried (not me), I called anyways, and see what happened?  No answer from anyone (I'm still not worried), DemoNurse enjoy your day with your family today, go to the State Fair, let them be, and let yourself be, even if is only for one day at a time, be very careful not to hurt to breast, don't do nothing crazy, though.  Don't throw yourself from the big slide or ride the Super Loop, lol.  The best for you always my friend.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 01, 2007 09:44AM
To: JoyGirl
That thing you were feeling when you were dancing is the Joy of the Lord, He gives us Joys like that, aren't they wonderful?   When all of a sudden you feel very, very happy.  That is the same way we are going to feel in Heaven one day.  Thank you for your positive inputs and energies.  Most of all thank you for your prayers!!!!!!!!!!!  We need optimistic, happy, cheerful people like you.  Like I said before, never leave this forum, please.   My best thoughts go to you.  snowtree

by mistyb361, Sep 01, 2007 10:25AM
To: Tammie and all
This is my first time adding a comment to this site but I have been reading the blogs for the past couple of days.
Tammie, If you change to a different forum, will you post where that is?
As I read the thoughts from everyone posted, I realize I am not alone in the frustration of having to play the waiting game.  I am a 35 yr old single mom of a 6 yr old boy.  I had a mammogram 2/16/07 and told that some calcium deposits were seen &, while they are nothing to worry about, I needed to have a follow-up in 6 months.  I had my follow-up 8/30/07. The clustered round calcifications are more prominent, increased in size and increased in number.  The dr. at the radiology office tried a biopsy but the location of the cluster is too high.  I will have to see a surgeon Thurs.(9/6) for a consult and then most likely have to wait another weekend before the biopsy.  Of course, waiting w/o an answer seems to be the worst part of this phase.  If I just had a yes or no answer, I would at least know what my next step needs to be...especially with regards to my son. I have looked up info but not found what I am looking for.  Some sites say most microcalcifications are benign.  I would like to know if that statistic still holds true for microcalcifications that have become more prominent & increased in size & number w/in a 6 month period of time.  If not, what is the statistic?  Something else that I know will affect my statistic is that my mom had breast cancer a little over 10 years ago and my sister had a metastitic (sp?) lump removed when she was 18.  I picked up the results from the radiology office and seeing the words 'suspicious of malignancy' does not help in regards to waiting.    

by DemoNurse, Sep 01, 2007 12:24PM
To: mistyb361
I know exactly where you are at this time. Everyone said waiting is the hardest and they were right. I was so worked up last week after my mammogram and magnification. I just had a stereotactic core needle biopsy 8/30/2007 to the right breast. I am 36 and have no history of breast cancer in my family. I had my first mammogram 2 years ago. At that time I had calcifications in the left breast. I had an ultrasound and everything was deemed benign. This time I had microcalcifications in a cluster in the right breast. I was terrified. I had already diagnosed myself and started making provisions for the kids and my husband.

The biopsy showed fibrocystic changes. No cancer. I was so happy. All I can say is waiting is hard. I did alot of praying and this forum was very helpful. All the post have information that I could learn from. I did take some time to rethink decisions that I have made. The day of the biopsy my husband and I decided that we no longer wanted to go through with our divorce. We realized that the small stuff didn't count. We got through this hurdle and are now seeing this as a test. I honor the word of GOD. I pray more now and I am always looking to be a better person in every way. We chose not to tell the children until the results were confirmed. Since everything is benign we use it as a lesson and the children don't even know because we think it will worry them.

Take this time to try to relax, push aside the small things that we worry about and love the ones closest to you. There are some wonderful prayer warriers here that will have you in their prayers as I will.
DemoNurse

by DemoNurse, Sep 01, 2007 12:27PM
To: mistyb361
P.S. I had the same BIRAD 4 rating...suspicious of malignancy and the biopsy was benign. As hard as it may be try to be positive and surround yourself with a great support system.

by mistyb361, Sep 01, 2007 03:21PM
To: DemoNurse
Thank you for the words of encouragement.  I do feel positive in regards to 'It is what it is'.  If my biopsy is negative, than I will be ecstatic, of course.  If it is positive, I will be thankful that this was caught early; at least early enough that there was no palpable sign of anything.  The cluster is in my right breast.  My mammogram in 02/07 was due to a lump in my left breast, which is suspected benign.  At that time was when they saw the small cluster in my right breast and suggested that I go back for a follow-up.  What I am finding is that with each passing day (& there haven't even been that many, yet) I find myself getting sucked into trying to find anything I can on the subject instead of spending that time doing something more productive...like spending quality time with my son.  It is almost like that situation where you see a car accident and can't help but slow down and stare even though you know it is just making traffic worse and creating potential for another accident.  I really hope this does not go on for the entire two weeks that it looks like it is going to take before I get a final answer.  I feel like an idiot because I can actually step back and see that what I am doing is so counter productive yet I can't stop.  As a single mom with a full-time job, it is not like I have nothing else to do.  As I am writing this, though, I am feeling better.  Maybe I should have started blogging right away about these feelings and letting them out instead of trying to hold them all in.  While I have good friends, I have not told many.  My mom knows but she lives over an hour away and the rain was too much to drive out to her house.  I don't have any other close family here besides my son who, of course, I am not going to say anything to unless I have positive results.  I have been such a workaholic lately that I do not feel comfortable calling up anyone else here just because I have some 'potentially' bad news.  It makes me feel selfish.  On the other hand, this has been a wake-up call to see more than ever that I should have never have allowed work to take over my life.  It is not as if I see it as more important than my friends yet, I now realize that is exactly how I have been living for the past year.  Well, this blogging is very therapeutic.  Thank you to whoever thought of it.  Thank you to everyone on this site who posted their thoughts and allowed me to feel like I could do the same w/o judgement.  I am going to go play a game with my son now. :)    

by mistyb361, Sep 01, 2007 03:28PM
P.S.  I do believe in the power of God, as well.

by DemoNurse, Sep 01, 2007 03:54PM
To: mistyb361
The feelings that you are having aren't abnormal at all. I did the same thing. I remember the day that I had the mammogram I had to work that night. I went to work and spent the night online looking for information on the results of my mammogram and what the biopsy would be like. It was that night at work that I found this forum. You need to inform yourself. The web is a wealth of information...be warned that there is as much false information as there is true and helpful information. This forum I find useful because we can vent without offending or burdening others. As someone here posted-"We are here because we want to be and that makes it genuine." You can share your deepest thoughts without worry. And many of the women/men here have experienced what you are going through so they can assist with coping. No one is here to judge you. That's the beauty of it. And the best part is there are lots of prayer warriers here and sometimes all we need is a prayer to get us through the day.

I went to many websites and found that this forum was the most helpful for me. Like I said, I had new fibrocystic changes which I need not worry about but because I was told I needed a "biopsy" I panicked. I was terrified and when I look back on 8/24/2007 I see all the things that I didn't do because I didn't have the strength like cleaning, cooking, working out, being with friends, etc. I did sleep after I had reached a peak of exhaustion. I worked one day and was totally ineffective. I was able to get my son to football practice/games and we did some school clothes shopping but it was with that feeling of dread. I didn't want to totally deprive him. I spent alot of time thinking about the things that I wanted to change and that was where I realized that I needed to be a better person-learn to forgive, love those who don't love me and live by the word of GOD. I do understand.

I came to the decision that positive or not there were changes that I needed to make in my life and I am going to stick to making those changes. I refuse to sweat the small things any longer and I want to continue to blog here. If I can help one person then I have met my goal of giving to others.

Have fun with your son-he needs you as you know. Continue to inform yourself and be reassured that no matter the outcome you have an arena where you can find support. Remember the statistics are on your side.
DemoNurse

by Montana girl 06, Sep 01, 2007 09:24PM
maa64-Thanks for taking us along on your journey. I'm so glad you got a second opinion! Knowing that the surgeons on staff make a collective decision sounds better than a single opinion.  Daily prayers continue.

snowtree-I go for my next mammo in mid-October. Sounds like you need to take it easy and get over the flu.

DemoNurse - Hooray! I'm so happy for your benign results.

Tamknit-I think you deserve some pampering with all you're going through. I'll bet the  pajamas and robe are lucious!  It's amazing how quickly you've gotten everything scheduled. That's great.  I'll keep you in my prayers.

by Montana girl 06, Sep 01, 2007 09:30PM
To: Hey Judie
Unfortunately, it's quite common for people to wait a month for a biopsy. I know the wait is tough but we'll keep you in our prayers.

by Montana girl 06, Sep 01, 2007 09:43PM
To: mistyb
Altho your family history does put you more at risk for cancer, there's still a good chance your microcalcs are  benign if they are Birad 4. Info from the California Pacific Medical Center says in their experience only 1 of 4 women with calcifications concerning enough to warrant biopsy has breast cancer, usually at an early stage.

I get sucked up in researching problems, too. Knowledge is good. The medical people throw so much at us, it's important to be informed and know that we're making the right decision. But, after a few days of researching I think it's important to reduce the time. The more we dwell on our problems, the more we worry. I know it's hard, but if you can find something pleasant coming up to put your thoughts and energies into, or try to remind yourself of a happy event in the past, it helps to reduce the stress. You'll still think of the biopsy every single day and that's ok. It's just that the stress is so hard on our bodies, and  I think we need to at least try to add some positives to our day.

I've told several friends about my breast problems, but they never really understand how stressful it is and I don't think they know what to ask or say. Their silence is very hard on me. That's why I count on this site so much when I'm going through breast problems. I'm glad you found us and will add you to my prayer list.

by Montana girl 06, Sep 01, 2007 09:46PM
To: mistyb

by snowtree, Sep 01, 2007 09:48PM
To: mistyb361
I want to let you know that we will be here for you. On 9/6 when you see the surgeon she or he, probably examine your breasts and ask you a few questions, like:  Do you smoke, how much caffeine do you intake, and other questions, then, because she is a professional she will tell you exactly what will happen, how the biopsy is going to be done and everything you need to know.  As everyone will tell you here, the biopsy does not hurt, but if you are nervous, please ask your doctor to send you some medication, well, right now I have to go, but please let us know anything you want, and keep on blogging.  A friend in Christ, snowtree

by Montana girl 06, Sep 01, 2007 09:49PM
To: mistyb
I had a biopsy (Birad 4) for calcs that became more prominent in 6 months and they were benign. Hopefully, yours will be benign, too.

by JoyGirl, Sep 01, 2007 10:09PM
To: All
Tam:  I will pray for you, in making your decisions/path clear for you and for your successful surgery, treatment and recovery.

Snowtree:  I am going crazy with you waiting for your results.  I'll keep praying

All:  I had made the decision not to tell my kids.  While my results came back negative, I just realized the other day that I went to search something on the computer that began with a c, and several cancer searches that I had done came up, then one morning I was in the bathroom with my husband and I showed him my bruise, the bedroom door was open and I caught a glimpse of my 11 yr old son in the mirror, he had walked in the room and didnt realize he was walking in on us.
Well, my three kids were getting ready for school and I just said, family meeting, we need to tell the kids.  I just told them that in case they overheard, or saw anything on the computer, that I had some problems and there was some concern that it could be cancer, so I have been researching it and talking about it a lot, but I assured them that I had it all checked out, it was not cancer and everything is fine.  I just didn't want them to be worried in case they had put two and two together.  I am glad I did.  We will keep this within our immediate family, not telling my mom or other family member, no need to worry anyone else.  Grateful that all is well.  I just wanted to share that DemoNurse in case there is any chance your kids may have overheard anything or sensed your fears.
My best wishes to all of you.

by d-cup, Sep 01, 2007 11:38PM
To: all
I have had two exams performed on my right breast (mammogram and sonogram). Doctors have told me that I have density in my breast and have me to visit often but, never tell me exactly what’s going on; what do you think is the problem? Has anyone had similar experiences?

by Hey Judie, Sep 02, 2007 12:50AM
To: mistyb361 and all
I am so amazed at the words you have written. TO QUOTE "I find myself getting sucked into trying to find anything I can on the subject instead of spending that time doing something more productive", because I am doing exactly the same thing. Thinking exactly your same thoughts.  I sit down at my computer, then get up to do some household chores and before I know it I am right back here at the computer again.  I agree this forum is therepeutic.  Before I found this site I would read my test results over and over again as if on the 10 or 15th time something new would appear, or something important that I had missed.  I have probably visited each and every site that describes what a BI-RADS 5 means and learned the definitions of neoplasm, pleomorphic and spiculated mass. Words and terms I have never heard before.  But here in this forum I am learning more importantly I am not alone. Thank you.

by mistyb361, Sep 02, 2007 11:59AM
To: Hey Judie
I am doing the same thing with my results, too.  I look over them again and again.  I compare them to the one in Feb. that says probably benign and wonder how things could have changed so much.  You are the only other BI-RADS 5 I have seen.  Mine has 4/5 which I did not understand until I finally saw detailed info about the different classifications.  When is your biopsy?

by Hey Judie, Sep 02, 2007 12:23PM
To: mistyb361
I am first scheduled to see a surgeon on Wed. 9/05 and already have my biopsy scheduled for 9/11. So the next two weeks will be tough.   I hope I will have my results before that week's end.  

by Jamdown, Sep 02, 2007 04:15PM
To: A Cleveland Clinic Doc
I recently had a mammogram which turned out negative, but because I had complained of breast pain, I as also prescribed to have an ultrasound.  The findings are that I have a 0.6cm cyst in my left breast, 10 O'clock upper inner quadrant, appearing somewhat complicated and having midly irregular margination. Also, I have a 0.6cm cyst in my right breast at 10 O' clock upper outer quadrant. Mild retroareolar ductectasia is present.  The recommendation is for follow up on my left breast only, which is an ultrasound guided cyst aspiration, possible core biopsy, BI-Rad: 4 -Suspicious Findings.

What does this all mean?  I received the result on Friday, 8/31/07, and received a prescription for the procedure, which I will schedule on Tuesday, 9/4/07.  I am going through an emotional roller coaster ride.  I don't know what the "BI-Rad" ratings mean, nor do I know the % possibility that the results could be benign.

Can my findings and recommendations be explained to me?  I am having an awful holiday weekend full of worry.  I know I should be more positive and have faith in God.  However, I am very scared as to what this could be.  Please help!

by Montana girl 06, Sep 02, 2007 08:54PM
To: d-cup
Without more info it's hard to say what the density is. If they're monitoring it, there must feel it's suspicious enough to keep an eye on it, but not suspicious enough to warrant a biopsy. Drives you nuts, doesn't it! If you can get a copy of your radiology reports (call your doctor for the request) maybe we can be more help.

by Montana girl 06, Sep 02, 2007 09:13PM
To: Jamdown
They usually leave cysts alone unless they are irregular in a way that makes them suspicious as is the cyst in your left breast. The nurse at this forum states that 25-50% of birad 4 biopsies are malignagnt, but that's on the high end. Other places just say 25%.  Suspicious calcifications seem to have a lower malignancy rate.  Mild irregularities don't necessarily mean cancer. It means they can't guarantee it is a cyst, and the only way to find out is through aspiration or biopsy. I know how stressful it is to wait. I'm glad you got scheduled quickly. I assume they'll try the aspiration and if it is solid or the fluid looks suspicious they'll do the biopsy. I'll keep you in my prayers. Please let us know how it goes. For more info you can do a search at the top of the forum page) on cysts, complicated cysts, suspicious cysts, etc.

by labhusky, Sep 02, 2007 09:17PM
To: DemoNurse
You sound just like me.  I go for my sterotactic 9/7 for the same thing thing 3:00 position of my L. breast cluster.  We do diagnose ourselves and scare ourselves to death.  I just dont want to say all thats gone through my mind lately.  Its just awful!!!!!  I am happy yours was negative!!!!!  Gives me hope!!!!  I look at the percentages that 85 % is negative and still worry about the 15% as well.  Like is the glass half full or half empty.  I have given myself a bit of a break this weekend on the internet and will probably continue in that pattern for awhile.  I will come to this board though.  Its hard sleeping too, but I have gotten a little better. But here in So. Cal. the humidity is horrid too.

by labhusky, Sep 02, 2007 09:33PM
To: JoyGirl
I was reading your stereotactic comments, and I have a question for you.  I am getting on Fri 9/7 of course scared for many reasons.  Why did you refuse the markers?  Mine is going to be on the 3:00 portion of my L. breast so I will probably be on my Tummy?  You have to take it easy the next day too?  Can you take tylenol?  Okay, more than one question here.  Im nervous

by DemoNurse, Sep 02, 2007 09:48PM
To: Labhusky
I think it's very normal to be scared of the worst case scenario. If I had to do it all over again, which I anticipate I will in 6 months when I have another mammo I will worry again. So many of us associate breast abnormalities with breast cancer. Here's the kicker-I have been a nurse for 15 years and I didn't know much of the information that I learned from this forum before my mammo. I just didn't know this stuff. I am now interested in breast cancer and want to help anyone that I can. Being informed is your best offense. You have to be an advocate for yourself and the only way to do that is to stay informed. This forum and others offer great info and the real life experiences of others. But do take time to live alittle. Especially in the warm climate of Cali. If just for a day get out and breathe the fresh air, enjoy the flowers and the birds, or whatever provides you with comfort. And remember the odds are with you. I slept through my biopsy after my cocktail (benadryl 25mg., xanax 1mg. and extra strength tylenol 1000mg). Not a recommendation but something for anxiety may be useful but do have a driver. After the biopsy I had one more dose of tylenol and that was it. No pain. The steri-strips are still on. I left the bandage on for 36 hours just because I didn't want to get it wet in the shower so soon after the incision. They called me with the good news exactly 24.5 hours later. I couldn't answer the phone. Imagine that, after all that waiting and worrying when the call came I didn't answer. It took me an hour to conger up the courage to listen to the message. Then I called back to speak to the nurse. When I called my husband he said that GOD had already told him what the result was and asked me to look under the mattress for a note that he left me when he went to work that day.

Everything you are experiencing during this process is "normal". You are not alone-no matter the diagnosis. That was my greatest comfort. I am still learning from the people in this forum and in six months, I will still be here for the support.
DemoNurse  

by labhusky, Sep 02, 2007 10:22PM
To: DemoNurse
Thanks for your comments.  I am driving myself.  I have a friend that will meet me there.  Afterward, Im going to call another friend and see if she can meet at the coffee cart there.  Yes, Im an addict but I drink decaf.  Maybe I'll just have to drive as fast as I can afterward to get home?  How long does the anesthesia take to wear off initially?  I wil more than likely come home and post something right away and take it easy.  Im not sure if the word polyformic was used or not in my case.  Is that super bad?  I have it done on the Friday and I wont hear anything probably untill the following week unless they take 2 weeks for the results, and I will be at work more than likely when I get the call.  

by snowtree, Sep 02, 2007 11:16PM
To: JoyGirl
Thank you for caring for us, even after your benign results.  You are a very compassionate person, God Bless you for that, may all your future mammograms come back BIRAD 1 (excellent).  Snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 02, 2007 11:25PM
To: Montana girl
Thank you for your concern, you know that we are going to be praying for you in the middle of October, I am already wishing you the best results BIRAD 1 (excellent), also.  I really (from my heart) desire good results for everyone, this is not easy, we are all stressed out, tired and concerned.  I've been talking to God a lot lately, I think He even told me "Shut up already, lol".  But, usually the talking is praying for all of you.  Snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 02, 2007 11:38PM
To: Sweet maa64
Thank you for staying here with us and letting us know everything that's going on.   Please don't ever forget that we are praying for your healing.  Keep on reading the Psalms.  Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.  "It is the Spirit who gives life, the flesh profits nothing"  We know that for those who love God all things work together for good.  Bye for now, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 02, 2007 11:46PM
To: JoyGirl again
You always open my eyes to new things.  You did very well hiding everything from your kids, until you knew the prognosis.  I should had never told my daughter in Iraq, because she is getting kind of obsessed about it, she has been calling me at 12 something at night and like 6 in the morning, the time change is 8 hours in Iraq, she is really mad because they haven't told me the results, I tell her not to worry, because she worries about everything, sometimes she worries that she's not worried.  Anyways, too late for that, I keep saying that I feel good, and try to change the conversation, but she is still mad.  Should had kept my mouth closed.   Snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 12:04AM
To: Precious Tammie
You are in my prayers everyday.  I will be sad if you go to another forum, but sad out of selfishness, because I want you in this one, but happy that you are been pampered by mother-in-law.  I have the feeling that for her to do that you must be a very sweet and caring daughter-in-law.  I understand your predicament about your children situation.  I say you wait as much as you can, but only you will know.  Tam, you are blessed to have people that love you and help you.  You see, God never leaves us alone.  He opens doors and closes them.  We are here to listen, so please speak.  We are here to give you affection even if with words.  To laugh with you and cry too.  To give you compliments, yes you are strong, stronger than many.  To give you solitude, when you feel like been alone, we understand.  Well my friend, just remember that we are with you, and wish to help you in whatever we can.  Bye for now, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 12:13AM
To: Labhusky
We've been there, done that.  Please, don't be afraid of anything.  I took xanax for my biopsy, had marker put inside, so in case they have to remove they know where to go.  Back in 2003, I also had a metallic marker placed in the 12 o'clock position.  This one was in the 11, I think.  I learned we have a clock inside our breasts with all these biopsies.  My friend had cancer in her cervix ( she is excellent now) and she told me that they removed from 12 to 12:15, so there is another clock you know where, lol.  Well, all I want to say is that don't be afraid of any pain, I truthfully tell you that a mosquito bite hurts far more than a biopsy, ok.  A friend in Christ, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 12:19AM
To: Joanswa
My biopsy was done through my nipple, like in the corner of my areola.  The other one was done right on top of the left areola, like half an inch, the one in 2003 was like a small triangle incision.  This one was more like a big paper cut, neither one hurt.  Bye, snowtree

by DemoNurse, Sep 03, 2007 12:21AM
To: labhusky/all
The anesthesia was local and I can't say when it wore off because my cocktail helped me sleep til 2-3am the next morning. Needless to say at some point I must have awakened and my husband offered me tylenol at about 7pm (procedure started at 1:00pm and I was done by 2:40pm). I didn't feel any pain at that time but he felt better that I took it. I did get the marker only because I knew  after the biopsy I would likely have more calcifications and I wanted to make sure that the area was clearly marked for my next mammo. Also titanium won't prevent me from having any future MRIs as other metals will. My arm is sore and I think it may be from typing, cleaning, shopping or whatever. But that soreness is welcomed over what I put myself through last week.

Just needing to have a biopsy put me in a tailspin that I haven't completely come out of. I noticed that I must force myself to get out of bed let alone the house. I haven't prettied myself up since the day of the mammogram. It takes all that I am to shower and brush my teeth. I think a day at the spa may be helpful. I don't even have the energy to go to the gym and exercise. Has anyone experienced this. My husband asked me to spend some time out of the room today and after 15 minutes I just wanted to go back to my safe haven. I have all but stopped taking calls from family and friends. I think it was because I decided that I needed to focus on me for a change and it was nice just doing what I wanted/needed for a change. I don't miss anything that was taking up my time before the mammogram. Spiritually I am noticing more and looking for greater meaning. There is good that came from this and I don't want to waste this experience. I want to train for the next breast cancer walk but I don't have the energy now. Any advice?
DemoNurse

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 12:38AM
To: DemoNurse
You don't know how happy I got when you informed us that you are not getting a divorce, I tell you sometimes we have to go through scary times like this one, to make us realize how much we have, and how much we didn't appreciate before.  DemoNurse, this was also good for your teenagers, I bet they were very sad with the divorce idea, I know sometimes is so hard, I've been married for 25 years and 4 months with someone that doesn't think like me at all, but we love each other, even though we are always getting into each other's nerve.  My twin son tells me that if I ever get a divorce, that he will leave the house never to be seen again, I have to talk to him, because that worries me, like when my husband and I fight he gets very sad, he is very affectionate, my other children are a little bit rough.  Anyways, I am glad that you decided to stay with us no matter what, thank you for your input, and keep on praying.  Prayers move mountains.  Goodbye.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 12:55AM
To: All
Guys, you don't know how much I need each one of you, I've been very tired lately, but wanted to make comments, because I know that we all care about each other.  I get sleepy very often, do a lot of house work which make me very exhausted.  Trying to slow down on caffeine, wanting to go back to vitamin E, but should wait until results are in, in case.  Sometimes I just seat at the dining table and stare at the walls "when I see how dirty they are, I stare back, lol"  Tomorrow I will take it easy, because I think I need some rest, I look really bad and I feel just the same.   Well, so long for now.  snowtree

by labhusky, Sep 03, 2007 12:56AM
To: DemoNurse and all
I dont know if this will help much but for me, today I had an appointment for a pedicure and manicure already schedueled before I knew about this biopsy thing.  I am finding that its kind of nice to get out and be around people who dont know what I am going through.  Like today, 2 friends were going to travel to Hawaii this week after they got their pedicures, and it was interesting to hear them talk about places one or the other visited.  We all looked at each other and smiled.  In a way it helps me to perhaps hope for a great future!!!!  At work, some people know, and some dont.  Theirs one lady that doesnt know that sits directly to the left of me.  She is a strong willed, will say what she means type of lady.  Im kind of that way, but I enjoy tapping into her strength.  I overheard her in the bathroom talking about her mom and how she is enjoying herself and is proud of her for beating breast cancer.  I have shut down alot lately!!!  I am a walker and this has been devastating on my mind.  Its been hot here too and I dont want to get heat exhaustion.  I havent cooked much either.  Though, am trying to eat more healthy again though this weekend wasnt too too great but Ive been worse too.  When this weather breaks, I do plan to get out and walk again.  I think it would have helped me alot since sometimes stress with me wraps me up  sometimes. I can be a type A personality.  I have to find the balance of getting out and live and retreat just for a bit.  Sometimes I retreat too much and its like everything I want or want to do is put on hold for this or that reason.  Ive done that alot in my life and hear this blasted thing was flung at me.  I must tell you.  I had a baseline mamm when I was in my early 30's but the hospital couldnt find it.  I havent been getting mammograms every year like I should.  I started this year and bam!!!  I wanted to take better care of myself because my mom was diagnosed a couple of months ago with diabetes at age 73.  I had scares with her when she had to go to the E.R. because her sugar was too high, 550.  She didnt want to take her medicine for a long time.  She didnt trust anyone.  I convinced her.  She weighed 76 pounds.  She weighs 80 now, but needs to go back to the dr to find a different medicine  or 2 that will controll it better.  I have not told her about my plight and I hope I dont have to.  I know diabetes and stress dont mix too well.   I just remember being in E.R. with her and thinking to myself, I need to take better care of myself.

by mistyb361, Sep 03, 2007 01:13PM
DemoNurse, it was so nice to read what to expect with the biopsy from a 'real' person's point of view instead of some textbook script.  I have been wondering about how I am going to arrange things with my son being so rough and tumble(he is 6).  Ever since my mammogram, my breasts have been so tender(which is normal for me after a mammogram) and I have lost count of how many times my son has inadvertantly done something that made me flinch from pain.  My son is with his dad's mom on Thursday's.  I was hoping that if I had my biopsy on Thursday, I would be good to go when I pick him up after school on Friday.  My mom said she would come into town and drive me to and from but I know she will not be able to stay in town for the night. I could probably stay at a friends just in case I end up being too groggy.  
Labhusky, I end up getting the same way in regards to putting things on hold for this reason or that.  Before my mammogram, I had a plan of action for this weekend to tackle a project...Since this came up..I have not done diddly squat with it and it is already Monday.  I am going to have to work double time this week while my son is at school to get it done and still do my job.  I did get some polish remover out so I could do my toes and still did not even do that.  I like the idea of going and having them done professionally.  That sounds like just what I need to get me out of this funk.  Even now, it is already after 1pm and I am still in just a t-shirt w/ no bra, no make-up, and my hair tied in a bun.    Usually, I put something casual on and at least some lipstick.  Well...I am going to put some lipstick on and then sit down to lunch with my son.  Hope everyone enjoys the rest of their Labor Day weekend!      

by Montana girl 06, Sep 03, 2007 07:15PM
To: All
snowtree - I love the clock comparison. It's good to laugh once in awhile at this forum. Thanks for all your prayers.

DemoNurse - I think it's great that you're getting some days just for yourself. But, I also hope you'lll be ready for phone calls and people soon, because I think you need others to lean on, too.

Ladies, I'm still praying for your biopsies and lab results. God be with each of you.

by Montana girl 06, Sep 03, 2007 07:52PM
To: snowtree
I was thinking about your tiredness. I hope it is just due to the stress you're going through with your biopsy and son. I think stress can really zap our energy. Take it easy for a few days. Maybe you need to pamper yourself. Hopefully, you'll get news on your biopsy on Tuesday.

by JoyGirl, Sep 03, 2007 08:31PM
To: snowtree
Well, I am mad too.  Doesn't the staff realize how difficult this is for all of us.  Surely, they have to know.  It is similar to what I went through.  A lot of senseless waiting.  I know that my results were released from pathology on Saturday and I didn't get mine til Tuesday evening.  Plus I kept on them constantly, I called several times each day and even called the pathology department to tell them that my doc had not received the report, because I knew my doc. wasn't going to keep on them.  Plus the pathology department said that they had already sent the results so appearantly, my doctor's office lost them somewhere along the lines, meanwhile I was all but waiting by the phone waiting for it to ring for several days straight, couldn't think about anything else!
Anyway, It is soooooooooooooo frustrating.  I really feel for you.  I know it must be hard on your daughter.  If I were you, I would call the doc. or hosp. first thing in the morning and tell them that you need the results.  Is your daughter in the service over there?  God Bless her.  I am sure it is difficult for her being so far away when she would want to be there for you, as hard as it is for you.  I know you will get the results tomorrow, you HAVE TO.  Then you can both set your minds at ease.
I am praying for you both.

by JoyGirl, Sep 03, 2007 08:49PM
To: Labhusky
The reason that I refused the marker is because I do not want to have a piece of metal in my breast, they told me it was titanium and almost pure.  I said, can you guarantee what other metals might be present in it, they said no.  I said that I don't want a piece of metal in my breast.  I do believe that aluminum in antiperspirant, and underwires in bras contribute to problems in the breast, as do metals in the mouth (ie silver fillings), it is just a result of my own research and my studies of eastern medicine.
The downside is that if the biopsy came back positive, they would not know exactly where they had gone in, so I would need surgery within two weeks because there would be enough damaged tissue in the area of the biopsy for them to know where the samples were taken.  If more time passed, the breast would heal and they would not know for certain where the sample was taken.  I had a solid nodule which I figured would still be there and if they had to go in, they should be able to find it.
I also react to lots of things, like for instance, I get every side effect from medications to the extent that I will not take medicine unless it is an emergency.  So it is my own personal preference.  The medical community would not agree with me but it is my opinion and my body, so I refused to let them put the marker in.  Now, with my biopsy haven come back negative, I am extra happy that I refused it.  I feel that the metal in my breast would have caused me more complications, possibly blocking the flow of something that should be flowing in my breast, or my body would see it as a foreign invader.  It is just not natural and I didn't want it plain and simple.

As for the procedure, I was on my back and they went in using ultrasound as a guide.  They said I could have taken tylenol then next day but I did not take anything for pain.  I just used the ice packs and rested a lot that day.  I don't know if the procedure is that bad, but for me, it was more the emotional drain that kept me in bed most of the day.  I was glad that my kids were all in school because I had the procedure done at 8 am, was home by 11, and slept and rested all day.  It was not painful.  Just relax and pamper yourself.  You will need it after all the worries.  Plus you have the most difficult wait of your life ahead of you.  I am not trying to worry you, the odds are with you that it is negative, but just to prepare you for the wait.  For me, the biopsy was one step closer to finding out the truth, the waiting time from the biopsy til the results was the longest five days of my life.
Force yourself to do some things that get you in a good mood and get your mind off it.
That is the best thing you can do for yourself right now.  Take time for yourself, maybe schedule a message or something to pamper yourself on Thursday. Biopsy Friday, right?
Best of luck to you and I will pray for you.

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 09:10PM
To: JoyGirl
So true.  I don't really want to get very upset at this, because is not going to be good for my health, but I tell you, they have made so many mistakes with me, that even if they tell me that is cancer, I will research it to the end.  Remember that I had the mammogram and didn't hear from them for 21 days.  No news is good news didn't apply to me.  I do not want to mention this hospital for obvious reasons, but this hospital rated one to three in the first 100 best hospitals in the United Stated, I don't know what to say, because to tell you the truth, there were other hospitals that were far better.  How can you believe this people anymore?  It wouldn't surprise me if after 3 weeks or a month they notify me with bad results, sure, I'm going to go right ahead and do as they say.  To tell you truth, my mammograms have never hurt before, but in this hospital I was about to loose it when I had my last one, I understand that it was the same day that I got my period, but in the morning (so I didn't know), I'm 46 years old, so I get my period whenever.   Sometimes I think and I don't like what I think.  Truly I never ever had any pain whatsoever in my left breast nor my arm nor my nipple, now everything hurts all of a sudden (WEIRD), I would hate to be a guinea pig to some clowns.  I don't really want to take this to a lawyer, because you know how it goes, this would probably be a war that I would never win.  But, I have all the papers from day one, I might not be organized in a lot of things, but regarding paperwork I win the contest.  I wish someone could trace the phone calls with some individuals from the hospital, so they could hear the stuttering on the other side of the phone.  I will let the days go by if they don't answer me by tomorrow, I just like to see how far can they go with this.  I have been very relaxed lately, when I'm usually hyper, God is the only one that could've done it, actually I am happier than never, even though I went through the flu do to the fact that my children like to put fans all over, and it makes the dust go crazy.  Well tomorrow we'll see what happens.  Thank you so much for your concern, I will post right away after whatever results.  God Bless you, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 09:17PM
To: JoyGirl
Just one more lie from them.  They told me that they had left two messages in my answering machine, with my mammogram results, but one little detail (I don't have an answering machine, nor a cellular phone), so they could have said that I wasn't here to answer the phone, that would've sounded better, also, if I wasn't here to answer the phone, what is the postal service for?  Just wondering.

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 09:36PM
To: Montana girl
Yes, I think it is stress.  I pray, try to be still, try to seat down, but even though I was never taken to the doctor for hyperness, my mother said I grabbed her crazy.  I am from here to there in a second.  I start washing the dishes then remember I have to fold clothes, then remember I have to file papers, and at the end of the day I am drained.  But, Montana girl, all this mammogram, biopsy, waiting and everything have made me think to the point of a headache.  We make life complicated, life is really simple, if you think of it.  Like, when you go to Target, how many shampoos are there?  Soap?  Detergents?  Well, you get the message.  I mean, please, put only one or two brands and that's it, no, but they have to complicate it for us.  The other day I went to buy a toothbrush, and I left without it, because it was mind boggling.  I hear myself talking out loud in the grocery store, Target, Walmart, saying what is all these foolishness, to buy a bread you have to think "let me think", maybe this one has more sugar, salt, is not wheat, bran, dark, light.  I just buy natures's own from now on, honey wheat for my son, white for everybody else.  Period.  Well, I'm sorry if I bored you, but today my husband told me that I've been a nagger, I know, yea, yea, yea.  He has too, lol.  God Bless you, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 09:53PM
To: mistyb
From my heart I promise you that the biopsy is not going to hurt you, later either, the reason that I have so much pain is, because I'm a dumbbell and started doing a lot of things with it, plus I'm clumsy and hit the walls sometimes, not to mention the times this week that my children got out of the room at the same time that I went in, and there it goes, bumper to bumper, chest to chest.  Plus, yesterday I went to a picnic and I danced a little bit, shaked my shoulders a little more and forgot about my biopsy for a while.  Today I am suffering the consequences.  One thing you should remember this thursday and worry about.  Only one thing:  You have to rest, do not type after the biopsy, the next day either, lay down, relax, don't wash dishes, don't lift anything, don't blow dry your hair with your left arm, lol.  Well, you get the message, ice pack all the time, put something to protect your breast from the ice, don't forget to ask the radiologist or nurse questions, write them on a piece of paper, so you don't forget, ask them about the bandages, for example.  Well, so long for know, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 09:57PM
To: mistyb
I made a mistake, your biopsy is in the right breast, right?  Well, the same apply, take care of that right breast.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 03, 2007 10:21PM
To: Labhusky
I am sorry to hear that your mom is suffering from diabetes, my mother does too, since 1999, so I know what you mean.  You did very good to have a manicure and pedicure, that takes your mind away from the biopsy.  I hope this (let's call it annoyance), instead of disease, taught you as well as us a lesson, you have read the other comments and noticed how we are all changing our lives for the better, we are not sweating the small stuff anymore, we will stop controlling others all together, we will stop doing things that stresses us, only you know what stresses you, there are a lot of things that  we do on a daily basis that we don't need to do, either too much tv, computer, phone, nag, complain, resent, clean, worry or whatever, we must stop and be still and know that He is God, we don't need to do everything, God is our helper, can at least we give Him a chance to show us that we can lean on Him in times of need?  He is there with His arms wide opened so we can run to Him, we can leave our burdens at His feet, faith is learning to trust the He will work all this out for our benefit, well, we will be praying for your healing, we are prayer warriors.  God Bless, snowtree.

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 06:28AM
To: Tammie/maa64
maa64 and Tammie:  This is for you.  When your luck is down, and your world goes wrong, when life's all uphill and the road is long         Keep your Spirits High, for through thick and thin, you must carry on, if you are to win       Never mind if things, slow you down a bit, you'll come out on top, but you must not quit.          Who else is so wonderful they call Him The Prince of Peace?  Who else do the winds obey and when He speaks they cease?  Who else healed the sick and made the blind to see?  Who else loved enough to die for you and me?          I stood beside your bed last night, I came to have a peep.  I could see that you were crying, quietly in your sleep.  I touched you softly as you brushed away a tear, "It's me, I haven't left you, I'm well, I'm fine, I'm here"".  Well sweet friends, you know whos words these are, you know how much God loves you, there is no doubt in that.  My prayers for you are every morning, first thing, nothing else is as important, I really wish I could have a magic wand and make you well, but I don't really need one, because I have my prayers.  May God Bless you today and forever, you are always on my mind when I think of greatness, I don't really know what you both are going through, but I feel compassion and my good thoughts I send to you, please let us know how you are doing, even if is only one sentence.  We care for both of you, keep in touch.  A friend in Christ.  snowtree

by HelenV, Sep 04, 2007 06:57AM
To: snowtree; all
Had my fibroadenoma removed on Friday.  It took them one hour to put the wire marker in because by breast is very dense and there was a piece of tissue right next to it.  I was numbed up pretty good so I really didn't feel anything, just a little pressure. They were all very nice. Procedure took about one hour under local/standby ansetesia.  Got persciptions for pain killers and anttibiotics.  Pain wasn't that bad took Tylenol and that helped, didn't need the pain killers.  Breast is sore, though.  Will be making a follow up appointment this week or next to get final results which should be ok, I hope.  One down and one to go. Have a September 20th appointment for a 2nd sonagram for my ovarian cyst.

Snowtree:  did you get your biopsy results.  Praying for excellent results for you and for all.

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 09:54AM
To: HelenV
So nice to hear from you, thank God that everything went fine, praying that your final results would come back EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!  Helen on September 14 I also have to go for another sonogram, also, they found thickening in the walls of my uterus and also is bigger than it's supposed to be.  Let's see.  I have to go on the fourth day of my period, how am I going to tell my period to come on the 11th? Lol.  Anyways, I wish you the best of the best, may God be with you throughout all this, we are all in the same boat, some with the feet out, some with them in, but still (the same boat).  A friend in Christ, snowtree.

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 10:29AM
To: ALL
Maybe God didn't want me to write what I wrote before this, it was long, but it never got to you.  Something happened with the computer.  Anyways, someone called me from the hospital to ask me why I had left a message on friday, to make the story short, I told them that I wanted to know my results, she told me they were in, but that I needed to call my doctor, I told her to transfer me, another girl came to the phone (from doctor's office), and told me that she couldn't give me the results herself, that I needed to talk with the doctor, that she would call me back.  I have to go to do errands, I said, I have no answering machine, nor cellular phone, she ask me when was I leaving, I told her in a hour or two, she told me they would call me before that, I am still waiting.  But, not for long, because I have to go to the bank and my children's High School, I guess maybe that was not good, but only God knows.  I've been praying very hard and asking God to please give me strength, faith and contentment, those are three ingredients that will make us happy, I didn't pray for good results (don't know why), but just for Him to hold me tight, to be me the peace that I've had until now, I've never been so relaxed in my life, then all this waiting I've doing, it gave me a chance to think and change my life, I would not change it for the world, positive or negative results are up to Him, I asked Him to be my doctor, to do my biopsy and to give me the results, so I should wait on Him, let's see, (I must admit that I am a little worried now), I will post with news, as soon as I hear from them, I will not be going to the bank, but I will not miss my children's school for nothing, right now I am not worried about myself, nor would I be in the future, I will take care of others and let God take care of me.  God Bless us all.  snowtree

by maa64, Sep 04, 2007 12:26PM
To: snowtree & tamknit
Sorry I didn't post - got really busy in a project. Had to put together a program for my son's soccer team. While I was overwhelmed with the project and had much to do, more than one person should have to do - it was the first time since this diagnosis that I can say I didn't think about my cancer. I am so glad I had this challenge to have normal and very busy weekend. I am just so tired. Tammie sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Snow tree thank you for the sweet poem. You are such a jem. All this waiting. I feel as though we hurry up just to wait.
Take care, praying for all.

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 03:35PM
To: maa64
What great words:  All this waiting.  I feel as though we hurry up just to wait.  Thank you for those words, and I am glad you have your Spirits up.  Can you believe that I followed my husband's advice and called today 3 more times, when I wasn't even going to call at all?  Well, guess who answered?  You are right, the answering machine, because pretty soon we are going to be biopsied, operated on and everything else by technology, robots, but who knows, maybe they will answer our calls better than humans, not kidding.  Where are we getting to?  Final days, I think so.  Anyways, nobody ever called back, and the people that I spoke to today at the hospital sounded like corpses.  Imaging this voices in slow motion:  no, we can't give you an answer for your biopsy, you have to talk to the doctor, she is the only one that can give you (THIS KIND) of results, than the answering machine:  Hello, I am so and so, I am very busy now, but leave your message, I will call you back.  Back when?  In three weeks?  Lol.  maa64, I am not worried if I have cancer or not, but my husband, children and one particular friend are dying to know.  For me to live is Christ and to die is gain, I think I say this on a daily basis, since I was like 15 years old.  I come from a family that never were afraid of dying or having cancer for that matter.  Now cancer is curable in a high percentage, but before when it was not, they were not afraid of death.  Even though no one in my family is a Christian, only me, they would talk about death, continuously, I was raised that way, they would even wish death upon themselves, specially my grandfather, he would say in front of me when I was small, I wish today I die, so did my mother, because she heard it, also.  Well, my grandfather died at the age of 86 peacefully, without pain, we don't know from what.  My grandmother, not the one that had advanced cervix cancer and died when she was in her eighties, (not of cancer), after 23 years from being diagnosed (that one died of old age), but my maternal grandmother died when she was 92, back in 2001, she died of old age, also, she never took care of herself, than comes my mother, she is a medical case, she lives with so many different diseases, that I would take a day to explain, including diabetes (she injects insulin everyday), she is a free spirit and don't want to hear anybody, she lives however she wants, eat whaever she wants, and lives in the malls (she doesn't have any money by the way), but she had a lot of money long time ago, and spent it in within one year, having fun, taking cruises, and maa, can you believe that she doesn't regret one single thing she's done, I talk to her about Christ all the time, and she tells me that she is going to heaven no matter what, that she doesn't worry about it or nothing, to leave her alone in her own little world of fantasies.  Well, my friend, who would've told you that you would have to listen to my problems, but maa, we all have so many sometimes, I pray for you everyday, you are a Christian woman and you know how much God loves you, please keep posting so we can hear from you, may God Bless you always.  Thank you for listening to me.  snowtree

by JoyGirl, Sep 04, 2007 10:09PM
To: snowtree
I feel really bad for you because you haven't gotten your results yet.  I thought about you many times today and came on a few times to check if you had gotten your results.  
Do you know they did the same thing to me, the nurse finally had the results in her hand and said that the dr. would have to review them and they would get back to me.  You have got to be kidding!  She wasn't, four hours later I finally had the results.  In the interim, I had convinced myself that it must be positive, otherwise she would have told me right away.  
I am hoping that the reason they are not too concerned about telling you is because it is negative.
I will keep praying for you.
Keep calling tomorrow, eventually they will get tired of hearing from you, or someone will realize what you have been going through and get you the results.  Call your doctor's answering service if they are not in and have the doctor paged.  Better yet, call the answering service before the office opens, and tell them what you are going through and just maybe, the person will be compassionate and will page the doctor.  It is just not right that you have to wait so long.  I feel for you.

by labhusky, Sep 04, 2007 10:40PM
To: Snowtree
I am just wondering if only the dr can give the results by law.  Yes, radiology had to do the report but I guess they have to keep themselves "protected" since only the dr can give out diagnosis?  I think its terrible and insensitive of the medical community to just put you off like that.  I want to read your results tomorrow on this forum, and I want them to be so wonderful that you will cry for happiness!!!!

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 10:45PM
To: JoyGirl
Thank you for your advice, I will call tomorrow again, but let me tell you more of what happened today.  Would you believe that I called before picking up the kids from school, and left a message a little annoyed and told my doctor that I had left a few messages to her and that she didn't return my calls, then JoyGirl I went a little crazy and called the head nurse in the radiology department and complained, I expressed my dissatisfaction with all of it, then I got dramatic and told her:  "Do you think is right that I have been waiting by the phone since August 27?  yea, right.  Then she told me that she couldn't do anything because my doctor was the one that had the results.  But the most incredible thing happened.  At almost 5:00 p.m. the doctor's secretary or nurse, (I don't even know who she was) called me and ask me, "are you so and so, and do you want the results of your biopsy?"  I could not believe what I heard next:  she told me that she had the results in front of her (just like it happened with you), but that the doctor that I was calling (my gyn) was working somewhere else and that anyways she couldn't give me the results, because I had to talk to the surgeon, that supposedly was the one that ordered the biopsy.  I told her NO!!!!! that the biopsy was ordered by my gyn, and scheduled for the 27th, on August 16th, I think, (I can't think anymore, for real), then I asked her if I could see a surgeon to see if I can wait 6 months for another mammo, instead of the biopsy, and she sent me to the surgeon on August 20th, the surgeon then sent me to the biopsy no matter what, after explaining that it was best for me, when she was going to give me an order for me to schedule the biopsy, I told her that she didn't have to, because it was already scheduled by my gyn, then she said ok.  On top of it all, the girl that called me at 5:00 told me something that makes me think that the results are NOT BENIGN, she told me that anyways she couldn't give me instructions about what I had to do next, then I told her NEXT?  Then she said, I'm sorry, but I can't say more, then I told her, go right ahead and tell me cancer or not, I am not afraid, I said, and she kept insisting that no way.  By this time I was a little rude, and I don't know if I hung up on her or not, I think I said in a low voice, alriiiiiight.  I even thought at the moment to tell her not to call me again, nobody, nobody from there, that I didn't trust them anymore, but I would've sounded insane, so I stopped myself.  Then my husband told me something that is true, he told me that I have been dealing with all this for almost 19 years, that I knew someday this was going to happen, and also, these breathing problems that took me to the emergency room in June, and the pain in the ribs under my breasts since January, so I didn't denied it, and said ok, what next?  I'll have surgery if I have to, I am not scared, and as for now I have insurance, so why not.  I'll let you know tomorrow, but I think there is a 90% cancer and a 10% benign, I'll find out what to do next, I'll take one day at a time, I don't suffer much pain with anything, so I'm not really afraid of the pain, but nobody likes surgery, I am not a masochist.  Well JoyGirl, thank you for your concern, may God give you many blessings throughout your life, and my He bless your family always.  Bye.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 11:15PM
To: Labhusky
Thank you for your concern, yes, I think tomorrow I will have my results, anything can happen, though, with this people anything can be possible.  Is your friend meeting you on friday?  Are you relaxed after reading all our comments?  Well, we will be praying for you on friday, don't worry about a thing, you'll see how smooth it'll go, the waiting is the pain, not the biopsy.  God Bless you and take care of you on friday.  Remember, xanax is the best before the procedure, but only on rare occasions, xanax is very strong (never take it lightly).  A friend in Christ, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 11:31PM
To: mistyb361
So your time to see the surgeon is coming up.  Have you written a list of questions?  Please do.   Let us know the day of the biopsy.  You know the power of God is awesome.  Is your mom taking you that day, is she going to the surgeon with you?  Let us know this thursday what's going on.  We care for you.  Goodbye, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 11:35PM
To: Hey Judie
How are you doing?  Tomorrow let us know how it went, just like I told misty, dont forget the written list of questions, you'll forget if you don't.  The surgeon will probably check you breast again, feel under your arms, and ask you a few questions, then you ask her a few more.  Please let us know, if she still wants you to have the biopsy on the 11th, God Bless you.  snowtree.

by labhusky, Sep 04, 2007 11:35PM
To: Snowtree
Yes, my friend is going to meet me there, and when Im done I'll call another friend as well that will come and see me at the coffee cart.  I dont know about being relaxed, but thats me.  Its more of the fear of the unknown.  We all torture ourselves by thinking too much, then all of a sudden afterward, "that wasnt as bad as I thought it would be" pops into mind.  Since Im driving, and you all have assured me it wont be bad at all I will go "drugless".  My "drug" is the mocha afterward and it gives me something to look forward to even if its a small step ahead, I will take it.  By the way snowtree, you said its not as bad as a mosquito bite.  I got bit Sunday night on my leg so Im itchy somewhat.  Dont know if it was a mosquito, so LOL.  Im fair skinned and I can react pretty good to a bite.  Ive been putting calomine lotion on it.  I never take aspirin anyway but I wonder if a tylenol would be okay before Friday or not.  I havent popped one and wont unless someone knows it would be fine for sure.  Tomorrow night after work I get my hair highlighted.  I always have these fun "appointments" made way in advance.  I just kind of worry sometimes and hope this wont be my last hair appointment for awhile.  Here I go again.  I know I need to stop that!!!  Last week, I was full of alot of tears, they really have subsided, plus putting on eyeliner in the morning after your eyes water doesnt work too well and it gets the brush wet.  Im going to try to get a good nights sleep.  The humidity here in San Diego has been horrid but the heat wave has really started to dissapate and we may getting back to So Cal weather again.  Take Care, we have to hang in there and considering the alternative, Im hanging and am thankful I can!!!

by snowtree, Sep 04, 2007 11:41PM
To: Jamdown
How was your biopsy today?  Don't let us know until thursday, please don't type, because you will get pains in your arms.  What kind of biopsy you had?  Looking up or down?  You can type with the right hand, though, is difficult, I know.  Did you get the markers?  Who is taking care of you?  Please, ask us anything, we'll answer you back, right away.  God Bless you.  snowtree

by Jen P, Sep 05, 2007 04:07AM
I am 42 and new to the site.  I am having a biopsy today and am VERY anxious about it.  I haven't slept all night.  The area of concern is approximately 2 cm in diameter.  They could not see anything on the ultrasound and the area only shows up on one of the views of the mammogram (but it was on  both the mammogram and the spot compression)  I cannot feel a mass or lump; perhaps a ridge? or am I imagining it??  My last mammo was in 1999 and the dense area is new.  The radiologist called it a b-rad 4.  Do you think it is good that they can't see it on the ultrasound and that it can only be seen in one view, or does that not matter?

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 05:57AM
To: Jen P
I cannot really tell you,  because everytime that they do an ultrasound on me they find something new, this has been going on since 19 years ago, but I would suppose that if they can't find it in the sonogram is kind of good news.  Birad 4 doesn't necessarily mean you have cancer, in 2003 my birad was 4, also, and I didn't have cancer, it was (benign), they don't know for sure, they told me that it was a 50% chance.  With this new one that I just had they didn't tell me anything, to tell you the truth, I think I asked a million questions,  but not that one, I am pretty sick and tired of having mammograms and sonograms, sometimes I feel like doing what the lady from CNN did, she chose to have a mastectomy, so she doesn't have to deal with it, do to the fact that I think her mother had it, also, something like that,  Jen P, don't be afraid of the procedure.  If you ask me I rather have a biopsy every year, instead of the mammogram, in other words it hurts much less.  You'll be fine, the waiting is the pain, ask them how long you have to wait for the results, usually they tell you right away, but some get messed up, like mine, so I'm still waiting, today I will know, but maybe my results are not going to be good, because mine is a large solid mass, so I'm prepared and strong, you got to be, to be a woman nowadays.  I will be praying for you as of now, (this moment), have faith and pray all the way over there, in the world that we live in, we cannot be afraid of the word cancer, fear has never solved a problem, it has caused many.  Jesus Christ said not to worry and not to fear many times, I wonder why.  God Bless, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 06:05AM
To: Jen P
Rectifying.  When I said they usually have the results right away, it means from 2 to 3 days, so on the second day you start calling them, just like JoyGirl said, I didn't do that and look, I am still waiting, grab them bananas, make them be so tired of you that they rather answer you.  Call them from two phones at the same time, so when they say "hold on I have another line", yea, is you on the other line, also, lol..  snowtree

by HelenV, Sep 05, 2007 07:29AM
To: snowtree
Really sorry you are going through this.  I can't believe you have not received your results yet.  I agree with Joy Gril - call the answering service and have your doctor page and insist on getting your results- it is your right to know and keeping you waiting all this time is just not right.  We are going through enough as it is.  Am thinking about you and hoping and praying you receive good news.

by maa64, Sep 05, 2007 07:42AM
To: snowtree & Jen P
Jen, I think the equipment has something to do with what they can see and also did they mention that your breast tissue is dense? I had a friend who has dense tissue and that makes it harder to see. I would like to tell you not to worry, but I believe after reading all the entries on this site that that is like spitting in the wind. So we will all pray for you. Snowtree I am praying for you. I had to call the first dr. that I had, and she wasn't too pleasant that I switched doctors. She told me that she is confident that the second opinion won't change anything. She laid it all out on the table again. My calcifications measure over 1 cm. so that calls for a complete mastectomy, I am only 43 years old so that calls for chemotherapy, I will be on tamoxifen which causes early menopause, and I could have my ovaries removed. She stands by her diagnosis and she thinks that by giving me that whole blow at one time I could digest it, deal with it and be ready for the surgery in two to three weeks. I told her it was too much to deal with at one sitting, that she just didn't knock me over the head, she crushed me. She said she felt knowledge is empowerment. She believes a patient should know everything. I asked her at the end of the consult if I still had a 98% cure rate and she said no, that there is no way of knowing without all the tests. When I told her on the phone about this I told her I left your office with absolutely NO HOPE! She said there is no way any doctor will give me any statistic. I told her when I arrived at your office I was told by the radiologist I would have a lumpectomy and radiation. I was completely unprepared for your diagnosis. I told her maybe you should talk to radiologists before they start handing out diagnosis. She said You put me in bad position and she can't tell the radiologists how to their job. A couple of times I wanted to say HELLO, Have cancer, could you be a little nicer????? So to make a long story short, snowtree, these people are humans, most of the time, not Christians, they live by the world's standards, so they are not always compassionate and to be quite honest snowtree they can be world class jerks. They are human, do as the Bible says and pray for them. Sometimes they get so clinical that they forget the human aspect to all this. The first doctor actually felt she was being nice! Now that's scary. I talked to my reg. doctor's nurse and she told me it was absolutely too much for one person to handle in one day. Take care snowtree, and for pete's sake, stop talking death like your family did, GIRL - CHOOSE THIS DAY - LIFE OR DEATH, God tells us to choose life!!!!!   CHOOSE LIFE. People need you, want you to be around. Take care, Maa

by Jen P, Sep 05, 2007 08:09AM
To: maa64, snowtree
Thanks for the prayers, well wishes, and information.  I'll keep you both in mine as well!  God bless!  Jen P

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 11:07AM
To: To All
Incredible!!!!!!!! I am screaming right now.  No, I have not received my results, yet.  I was 100% sure that they were going to call me today at 9:00.  My daughter just called me from Iraq, five minutes ago, and at 1:30 in the middle of the night, not only I'm not getting sleep, she either.  She is a staff sergeant in the army and don't put up with much, she has the personality of my husband, like I said before (a category 5 hurricane), she had it, she said.  She wants to call them from Iraq saying that she is me, but I know how that's going to end, no way, she's been finding out on her own, and she said that maybe they just want to cut the spot where the mass is, just to be on the safe side, but she wants to know in detail, that is her personality.  On the other hand, my husband wants to go there and tell them off, I don't want that either, and my other children are in la la land, not the 19 year old one, he says that he'll go with me to the hospital to raise Hell, I don't want that either, people in my house are violent, I want peace, I don't want to lie to them, but if this goes on, I'm going to have to, please pray for this foolishness to go away.  Love, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 11:37AM
To: To All
Thank you so much for your concern for me.  I've read each one of your comments, deeply appreciated.  I JUST FINISH PRAYING FOE EACH OF YOUR AILMENTS, let's see what happens.  snowtree

by labhusky, Sep 05, 2007 02:28PM
To: All
O.K. I am at work and only have time to type a brief question here at the bottom of my lunch hour.  When going for a steretactic biopsy, do they kind of give you a synopsis of the previous mammograms in the beginning?  I was looking at my quick notes I wrote at work when the Dr rattled them over the phone to me here at work.  Something about wide focus 3:00 posterior 7mm indetermine, unknown.  Thats all I wrote since my mind was in a daze too at the time.  Snowtree, I read quickly what you just wrote.  My goodness, I dont know if you are close enough to drive down to the office and sit and wait till you are told something or not.  I would be going past crazy.  Gotta go and look busy, will be back briefly tonight  

by Jennyob, Sep 05, 2007 04:53PM
Hi I am scheduled for a MRI on Friday and I am scared to death. I went back on Aug 8th for a six month mammogram followup and the radiologist saidt hat there is micocalcification still in both breat that are cluster now. I had biopsy in both breast and surgery in the right breat to remove a tissue called ADH. I thought everything was taken care of and now this. Thsi surgeon said that the radiologist thinks the MRI will help diagnose whats going on. Should I be concerned?

by JoyGirl, Sep 05, 2007 06:16PM
To: snowtree
I will pray for peace, I told my sister about you today and I was telling her how everything was annoymous, no names, places etc.  I told her that I was ready to ask you your name and your drs. name and phone number because I wanted to call myself on your behalf. I understand your families frustration and I respect your wish to keep it peaceful.  Maybe your daughter in Iraq can call, she may be able to rattle the answers out of them.  Be persistent with them.  Call the answering service after they close today if you don't get the answer, tell them you NEED to speak with the doctor.  I consider this to be an emergency, it is not right.  How can they let you wait this long.  I felt terribly abused and neglected by the system, I can only imagine how hard it must be.  My prayers are with you.  Please, be persistent.  I know how your husband feels, my husband offered to accompany me to my doctor to demand answers as well, I too told him no but it cost me another 24 hours.  24 hours of my life that I could have had back if I would have let him!!!!

by ckf, Sep 05, 2007 08:02PM
To: all
I have not posted for awhile but have been checking in on everyone, ( I posted about 3 weeks ago about calcifications that had to be checked) I am ready to call the Dr. for you snowtree! Maybe we should all call them and bug them until they tell you your results!
I have been praying for all of you. Isaiah 26:3 has always been a favorite verse of mine... "I will keep in perfect peace him whose mind is steadfast because he trusts in me"  I am not going through anything like what you ladies are but knowing I have to go back in 6 months sometimes has me worried so I have to constantly be reminded to look at God and not any circumstance I am in.

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 09:47PM
To: To: All
Thank you for your prayers for me>  This happened today, I decided to go to Walgreen's close to my house, at about 4:30 p.m.  I got back home like at 5:03, I see my son running to my car to tell me that my doctor had just called like two minutes ago, listen, I went in the house and by this time I lost it, but he told me that my doctor had told him for me to call her back, and he also said that she sounded very depressed, (where would a 14 year old boy know about that word), probably in school, but anyways, I called back and the stupid answering machine picked up, she never called me back.  So by now I suppose tomorrow will be the day.  By now I know that I have cancer, I do not want to be negative, but too many clues, Denial is not a river in Egypt, I also spoke to my mother and she told me something kind of funny but true, she told me for sure to get a second opinion, because if I was going to loose a breast anyways, they might as well press it again in the mammogram machine and see if they get a different diagnosis, my husband think it's going to hurt me too much to go through that again, but you know what, even though my mother is a matter of fact kind of person she made me see things in a different way.  Why not, why not put my breast through whatever for the sake of saving it, if anyways I'm to loose at least a piece of it.  I will confess something to you from the bottom of my heart, if one goes, the other can go too, I don't want to deal with this mortification anymore, I've had it.   Thank you again all of you for caring, for asking, you guys are my only friends.  snowtree.

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 09:57PM
To: Helen V
How are you?  Thank you for your prayers.  Is your breast still sore?  Did you make the appointment for the results?  That was a good idea to make an appointment, instead of having to wait for their call, Great idea!  Well, hope to hear from you again, take care of yourself, and God Bless you.  snowtree.

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 09:59PM
To: Jamdown
I hope you are feeling well from the biopsy, take care, hopefully we'll hear from you soon.  Praying for you.  snowtree

by mistyb361, Sep 05, 2007 10:00PM
To: all
I had an appointment set for 9/06 with a surgeon that had performed a procedure on my mom.  She said that there was another surgeon in the same practice that she had also seen and liked better.  I called first thing Tuesday morning to see if this other surgeon had any openings this week.  I saw him today.  The surgery is set for Monday 9/10.  He said the results should be back within two days from the biopsy.  He was very nice...so was his nurse.  The procedure was explained very well.  He did say my son should stay with his dad's mom on Monday and Tuesday.  Those arrangements have been made.  My mom is going to come to town and take me to the hospital and then take me back home.  She will not be able to stay in town but, with my son staying at his other grandma's house, I am pretty sure I will be ok.  ...You know what, I know I am a strong woman regardless of whether I need help those two days or not so I just asked a friend if I could stay at his house for those two days and he said yes.  Well now...I am sure my stepdad will have a fit because I will be at a guy's house but, if I need pain meds, I would love it if someone could get them for me for one day.  Plus, until the day I hear men dreading going to their yearly checkup because they know that their normally round testicles are going to be squeezed into little flat pancakes as a tech tells them to hold still while a picture is taken, he has no room to say anything.  ...Although the vision of what it would be like really humors me...Imagine men with their type A personalities having to go through what we went through...After the first round of slides are taken the tech would send this man back to the dressing room but tell him, "Don't put your pants on yet.  The doctor may want some more slides taken".  Wait...wait...start feeling the tenderness coming on.. And, yes, the doctor would like some more slides.  
Tech: Now put your hand here.  How does that feel?  Are you okay?  
Man: Hello?  No, I am not okay.  But, everytime you ask me that question, these two plastic plates are clamped onto my testicles that much longer...and, YES!, I know I have to stand still during the picture.  Stop talking and just take the &%# picture!  What do you mean you have to take it from the side now?  By the way, I am so sorry about being so rude to you just a moment ago?  Really, I am.  (Tech tightens plates a little more.)  Wow, you have beautiful eyes.  YIKES!  I said I was sorry!  
Tech(in a very slow speech):  Now, how do you feel?  Are you ok?  Don't move.  Wait, so you really think my eyes are beautiful?  That is soooo nice of you to notice.  I just had one of those lasik surgeries so it is nice to not have to wear glasses anymore.  Okay.  Hold still.  I would hate to have to reposition you just because you moved.  Oh darn...This machine does not want to take the picture.  Hmmm.  Oh we just have to magnify the picture.    Okay then...I think we have the last slide done now.  
Doctor comes in when man comes to after his fainting spell: Well, it looks like you have something but, we won't know for sure until we scoop a piece of your testicle out.  Don't worry, nobody will notice the size difference but you.
Man faints again.

Well, maybe that seemed a little harsh, but I do hope it made you laugh...which I know I have needed.  I do hope that did not offend anyone.  Obviously, I am leaning on a man Monday and Tuesday so I do know that they really can be compassionate.  Well, I am going to head to bed.  I packed my day full of meetings so time would fly by faster and I am now exhausted.  I have a ton of things to do for the next few days so I hope this will carry me through til Monday with my sanity in tact.  For the most part, I have been able to stay positive but, every now and then, another part of me thinks the 'staying positive attitude' is a little over-rated.  For me, it doesn't have as much to do with whether the answer is positive or negative, as much as it is about having to wait to get that answer.  What I have realized during the wait is that I can google all I want and find just enough info to scare the bejeebers out of me on one site and find something so inspirational on another but, I still don't have an answer...and I will not until next week...And, in the meantime, I lost valuable time I could have spent with my son...Knowing that if I were to have to lie on a deathbed anytime soon(which I do know is not very likely even if my results are positive), I would be kicking myself in the behind for wasting that time.  Okay, I have vented and, once again, feel much better for it.  God bless to everyone here.  I will say a prayer for you/with you before I fall asleep.              

        

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 10:08PM
To: Hey Judie
How did it go today?  Did you asked all the questions?  Did you take a written list?  Well I hope to hear from you soon.  God Bless, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 10:28PM
To: mistyb361
Tomorrow you will see the surgeon, make sure to ask her how long she will take to give you an answer, if you should call or just ask for an appointment?  I hope you get good news.  Put on that lipstick, paint your toes, fix your hair and hold your chin up.  Go girl!!!!  Let us know.  May God be with you tomorrow and always.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 10:46PM
To: mistyb361
You surely made me laugh, I am glad you have a sense of humor, I love it when I do.  I like to watch funny programs, not ha ha nasty funny, like Mind of Mencia, but I most admit, that when my husband puts it, even though I don't watch it I am laughing inside, as long as he doesn't say anything bad about the Lord (which he usually does, he makes fun of Him), shame on him, he not only uses the name of God in vain, but he thinks is funny.  Well, when I go to the movies to watch a funny one, my kids get embarrassed because I laugh from beginning to end, like the movie "The rat race", I watched it like 6 or 7 times, hilarious.  Well, we'll be praying for you on the 10th.  God Bless.  snowtree    ps  The Madea movies, from Tyler Perry crack me up.  Funny, funny, funny and they teach you a lesson, he is Christian.

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 11:25PM
To: maa64
So glad to hear from you, I read your comment slowly and thought about it a lot.  How dare your doctor was so un-sympathetic (made that word with the un in front, lol.)  She doesn't know that what goes around comes around?  Little she knows that this is probably the time in your life that you need more compassion and understanding, I suppose she is God just because she has a title in front of her last name, yea right.  But, don't forget a little detail:  God can never cease to be merciful, for this is a quality of the Divine essense.  Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.  When the most important time comes, which to me is The Judgement Seat of Christ, then all these things will be known, all the injustices left unpunished, all the rudeness of heartless people, and all the pain that they cause.  There are no withholding taxes on the wages of sin.  maa, is not hard to be nice to someone in distress (that's who we are now, people in distress), today I heard in the news about this woman that had cancer, and needed to see the dermatologist, well, she had to wait a long time in the waiting room for other people that had problems with their tattoos, (imagine), she had a melanoma growing in her leg and was told she had cancer, so she was very concerned, and I guess she wanted a second opinion.  I tell you, I am so sick of doctors, that I even told my husband today that I regreted the mammogram, the sonogram and the biopsy.  Oh, talking about the biopsy.  Did you have a small lump in the incision after the biopsy, I have one, I've never felt a lump in my breast in my life, this is new, due to the thing they left there, I guess.  Anyways, maa, I am so happy to hear from you, thank you for taking your precious time to write something to us, we all need your caring and prayers, you are a Prayer Warrior, a Woman of God, you will come out of this stronger than you've ever been, I hope for all the wonderful things that a person can receive to be bestowed on you.  God Bless, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 11:35PM
To: Jen P
I did pray for you, I know everything went well, but I also know that you shouldn't be using that arm, rest a little, I know is hard to rest nowadays.  Are you putting ice on your breast, with a bounty towel between breast and ice?  Take care of the incision.  Did you get the markers?  Well, whenever you can, let us know how you are doing.  I bet it didn't hurt a bit, thank God for that, imagine if the biopsies were to hurt, that would absolutely would not be fair.  Well, God Bless and sleep like a baby.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 05, 2007 11:53PM
To: Labhusky
To tell you the truth, they never showed me anything, now that I think about it.  I was taken to this room, I don't even remember, lay down on a small bed and this women and men were preparing this weird things and I closed my eyes, and I didn't feel anything, than they sent me for two more mammograms, but don't worry, those were the best mammos I've ever had in my whole entire life, mammos with anesthesia, you can't beat that, I told the girl (just press all you want, take advantage, because it doesn't hurt, she was laughing so hard, she was nice.  Don't worry about a thing.  God be with you on the 7th. Bye, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 12:12AM
To: JoyGirl
I was telling my daughter about you today, too.  I told her that you had told me to call them all the time, I told her that you told me to page the doctor, and she was cracking up, but she told me that was exactly what she would've done, JoyGirl, you were so right about that, I was dumb not to call, thinking that they were going to be worried about my results, ha ha ha, you know sometimes what I think?  I tell you, I have a weird thinking mind:  I think they enjoy to make us wait, I think they enjoy our suffering, they don't have our best interest, they think they are better than us, they like to play God, because they think they are, I told you, they are robots with medical minds, no feelings, no normal common sense, I am dumbfounded at how illiterate they are in patient service, did I ever told you that I received the bill for my mammo before the results?  Of course, they wrote my apartment number in that bill, but lost it for the results, lol.  Yes, let me laugh out loud, right now, because I refuse to cry, I feel like a little deprived of the power to feel, I feel numb, tomorrow if they call I will sound like nothing on the other side, even if they tell me is CANCER, I'm just going to say "ok", now what do I do (thinking inside of me, I am not going to do it with you, no way!)  Today I don't like me, I was down, grumpy, confrontational, and everything that I don't want to be, I will wait for a better tomorrow.  Thank you JoyGirl for being so compassionate, even though you got great results, you are still here with us, worrying about us, that only makes you One of a Kind, I pray that you have a wonderful life full of joy and happiness, that your health gets better with the days, that you don't have to go again through any biopsies, and I pray that we all get BIRAD 1 in our next mammos.  No more sonograms, calcifications, fibroadenomas, cysts, masses, tumors, whatever, no more.  God Bless you, snowtree

by mistyb361, Sep 06, 2007 08:35AM
To: JenP
I hope you are recovering quickly from your biopsy yesterday.  

by JoyGirl, Sep 06, 2007 09:03AM
To: snowtree
It sounds like your daughter and I think alike.  If you have to run out or run errands today, make sure you tell the doctors office to leave the details with your husband if you are not there.  Otherwise they can not.  I told them everytime I called, if for any reason they reached my voicemail, that they had my permission to leave all the detailed results for the biopsy on the message.  It is terrible feeling chained to your phone.  I remember running to mailbox, avoiding my neighbors, just to ensure they didn't strike up a conversation, and I miss the call.  I felt horrible running out to get groceries or anything that might make me miss the call.  I work out of my house so when I am with clients, my phone goes to voicemail.  Like I have said before, the waiting for those results is worse than any procedure that they do.  You become a prisoner.  The sad part is that you waste so much of your life, for those who do get bad results and then have to go for surgery, chemo, radiation, etc, these last "good" weeks before the procedures are lost to the worrying, wondering and obsessing while you wait.  I really wanted to do some fun stuff with my kids the couple weeks before school started and I just couldn't.  Now I look back and regret that we missed out on that.  Well, I could go on and on and I don't know that it could change anything.
Maybe you should say something when you get your results, before they hang up, remind them of how long you have been waiting and how hard it is.  Maybe you will get through to someone and they will be more compassionate to the women in the future.  I am off to the surgeon right now.  I will check in later.  God Bless You!

by mistyb361, Sep 06, 2007 09:31AM
To: Jennyob, Labhusky, maa & tam, Snowtree and all
Jennyob & Labhusky:  Good luck on your procedures tomorrow.  I hope that recovery and results come back to you with Godspeed.
Tam:  I have not seen you post in a while.  I do hope you are doing well under the circumstances.  Know that you are being thought of and kept in prayers.
Maa:  I am so glad that you come across projects that can keep your mind off of the 'c' word.  I almost wrote 'keep your mind off reality' but, being a mom and helping with your kid's projects is also reality...a very wonderful reality.  I really like the statement that you wrote regarding God telling us to choose life.  They are very empowering.
Snowtree: I am glad that I was able to make you laugh.  I do hope you get your results today.  

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 10:25AM
To: All
No answer as of now, 11:22 AM, I called again once, I'm calm today, only going out to pick up my kids from school.  In the future I will put an answering machine, and yes, let them tell everything to the thing, will have to learn how to use it first, lol.  I am technological illiterate, all my children, the 4 of them own a cellular phone, and they about gave up on me, trying to teach me that weird thing, I'm scared of them, I can't hear or talk on them.  I just told you before, that I am weird.  Maybe if I had one of those weird objects, I would had already the results.  Next time.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 10:31AM
To: JoyGirl
Thank you again for being so compassionate.  Thank youk, thank you.  Why are you going off to the surgeon now?  Is there something wrong, or are you going for sometone else?  Please, let us know.  Today I'm calm, a gift of God.  God Bless, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 10:49AM
To: Tammie
Hi, did you go to the oncologist today?  What did she or he said?  How are you feeling?  You may have a combo problem, but you also have a combo of friends praying for you, be aware that we all love you hear, you are not alone, not only God is with you, but we all are.  Tammie, sweetie, you are in my prayers, like I said before, first thing in the morning, I feel for you, wish you the best of the best.  Thank your mother in law for putting an example of what it is to be one, she will never regret this that she is doing for you, God will repay her for blessings unaccountable, she is a hero to me.  I had a bad mother-in-law, I don't want to talk about her, she is already dead.  She made me suffer to the extent of giving me so much stress one time, that I decided to go to her house and ask her for forgiveness for the sake of MY health, well, she died three months after that, and to tell you the truth I didn't even care. (just for the sake of truthfulness, I don't want to be a hypocrite), no more about her.  She is dead twice.  You know what I mean.  Tam, going back to you, Wee Waant Too Heear Froom Yoou (I'm saying this out loud), may God carry you in His Mighty arms throughout all these, is not easy, I suppose, but with Him by you side, what is difficult?  NOTHING      If He can take away my craziness in a time like this, He can do anything, believe me, sometimes I think I'm nuts (all kinds of nuts, lol), so see,  by Sweet Tammie, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 10:52AM
To: Tammie
I told you I was nuts, lol.  I meant bye Sweet Tammie, not by Sweet Tammie, whatever, you understand.  Love, snowtree

by JoyGirl, Sep 06, 2007 11:52AM
To: snowtree
I had to go to the surgeon, well, let me  back up.  The reason that I first went to the dr. for a breast related problem is because I had pain in my left breast.  When I went for the mammo and ultrasound, they found the suspicious mass in my right breast.  The focus then became my right breast, and I proceeded with the biopsy on the right breast.  I had to go to the surgeon because he "knows breasts" and my dr. wanted him to check why the pain in the left breast.  He did a physical exam of my breasts and found a lump that he said was either a cyst or a fibroadenoma in the left breast in the area of pain.  He said that he wanted a followup mammo and ultrasound on that in 6 months to make sure that it is not growing, he said if it is a fibroadenoma, he will recommend another biopsy, the first on the left side.  He said that six months is not too long to wait for this.  I am OK waiting because I am not ready to go through anymore biopsies and waiting for results.  He said it is not likely that it is a cancer and he said even if it is, it would still be early if they catch it in six month.  He said years ago, woman would have had the mass growing for two to three years before it was obvious in a physical exam.  
Anyway, he let me feel it so I would know where it was and it was right in the area of pain.  Odd that it didn't show up in the mammo or ultrasound.  Weird, right.  If I am not worried about it, I may wait longer to have it checked out, what's another month or two?  He was not too concerned about it.
Anyway, If you have not yet heard, please call again and just say you are returning doctor's call.  sometimes that gets their attention.  I know you will be fine!

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 01:13PM
To: JoyGirl
I am relieved for you, cause I was worried, I said to myself, did I read wrong, what does she mean?  I am glad you took the step to talk to the surgeon.  Well, I just called my gyno, and some girl came to the phone and I explained, and she told me that I had to call my surgeon, that she is the one that have to give me the results.  I called my surgeon, (let me mention that she was a sweetheart when I spoke to her, she and her nurse gave me a big fat bear hug when I left on August the 20th), anyways, I called her and her secretary (I guess) came to the phone, and in the nicest voice in the world I explained calmly, Hello, I am so and so, I had a breast biopsy on the 27th of August, 10 days ago, I would like to know my results (maybe I sounder a little sarcastic, now that I'm reading myself) if is not too much to ask, oh, but please, can I ask you a question?  Remember that by this time I am talking to a robot, with no emotions.  I said, "if this is cancer how rude of you that nobody ever called me, I suppose I am not dying, or is she going to tell me, like they told maa64, that to go the same day at night and have blood work, MRI and everything else, how there they!!!!  Poor maa, I feel mad at her first doctor, just want to punch him or her, across their big fat empty head.  Well, I told her, "she is not going to tell me that I have to go right ahead, because even though I waited 10 days I could not wait one more or I'll die, by this time I was raising my voice, she knew, and the robot said, (just imaging a robot talking)  I understand, she will call you whenever she has a chance, she is busy, oh yea, all that stupidity of an answere made me feel great, she was sooooo nice, (Oh, boy I am sarcastic, now that I think of it), you know JoyGirl, I do have to ask God to take away my sarcasm, I do good in most of the other things, but I've been told by my husband that I come across very sarcastic, I just don't like stupidity and people that never cared about me to be worrying now, like some in-laws and so called friends, so just like you said before, I should not hold resentment, I am saying this to myself over and over again, I could be so sarcastic sometimes that I should be working in Hollywood and making millions (for what?)  I hate materialism.  I have only told about my problem to you guys and my immediate family, husband, 4 children and mother.  But, my quiet husband decided that he was going to let the world know, you should hear me when one of those hypocrite call me, I say "Sorry, I don't have an answering machine and no cell phone, so I'm sorry, but I have to hang up on you or else I don't get the results, I never call them back, that is a way of me living a simple life, Jesus Christ gave me that freedom JoyGirl and no one is ever going to take it away from me, you see, here in this forum we write to each other because we mean it, we are not hypocrites, I wonder why Jesus sounded so harsh sometimes, but I understand that He wasn't harsh, He was just not a hypocrite.  I love Him.  God Bless you.  snowtree

by JoyGirl, Sep 06, 2007 01:38PM
To: snowtree
You go Girl!  I am glad that you spoke up.  I think it will pay off and you will get your results today.  
If not, that nurse will be laying in bed realizing that you will be forced to wait another day.  How would she feel if it were her, or her mother, or daughter, or girl friend waiting for these results?
You don't sound sarcastic, just realistic.  That is a trait that I admire.  
I'll keep praying for you.  I think this is a lesson in patience for you, and for all of us, but a cruel one, indeed.
Incidentally, I called my regular dr. yesterday and told them I needed a copy of all my mammo/us/biopsy reports for the surgeon.  I picked them up on the way to the surgeon's office, so now I have a copy of everything.  My biopsy was done at 8am on Fri. 8/24, and on the report it says the results were reported 8/27 (even though they told me it would only take about 24 hours).  I got the results the night of the 28th from my doc.
You should request a copy of the report from your doc or gyn (whoever finally gives you the results) so you can see when it was completed.  Also, when you get the call from them, ask them right then and there if they can make a photocopy of the report for you and put it at the front desk/reception area so that you can come pick it up.  You can ask for the mammo reports too if you dont have those.  Mine was diagnosed as a fibroadenoma.
For what it's worth.  It will be after the fact but at least you will have the info in front of you.

by mistyb361, Sep 06, 2007 02:06PM
To: Joygirl
That is really good info for all of us.  I had my results over the weekend so I could take them to the surgeon's office.  I should have made a copy before I just left them.  Duh!  I do have to go to his office today or tomorrow to p/u orders that I need for pre-registration at the hospital.  I will have to write down your advice so I do not forget but, I will ask the nurse or receptionist for a copy of my reports, as well.  Also, I am glad that your dr. feels your lump is not cancerous.

Someone emailed this link to me and I wanted to share it with all of you prayer warriors:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/singingman7/Twinkies.htm

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 03:59PM
To: mistyb361
Tell us about you, what happened.  Thank you for the link, isn't it true, beautiful story, but real, it can happen.   We should all buy some Twinkies and a six pack of root beer and see with who we can share it with.  Keep praying.  I'll keep praying for you.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 04:25PM
To: To All
Finally, after a distasteful experience I got in touch with my doctor.  No cancer!!!!  Yes, I'm happy, I didn't even think I was going to feel happiness anymore after this, I am so tired, drained, sleepless, agitated, everything I don't want to be.  THANK YOU for praying for me, I always felt so protected knowing that you were praying for me, because I believe in miracles and I love God so much, that I said to Him "Father you said in the bible that if two people come in agreement to ask (of course for something that is good)  You for something that You would listen and give it if is for your Glory.  I want to let you know that I was 100 percent sure that it was going to be cancer, I never (not once) thought why me, I thought why not me and others yes, no matter what I was still going to love God the same way, too long loving Him to stop.  I still have to go on the 11th for a thickening and growth in my uterus, and I tell you today and now, that no matter what will ever separate me from the love that I have for Him, to me to live is Christ and to die is gain, I never lied.  I felt a weird feeling yesterday and today, I felt numbed, mad, disgusted, all of a sudden I didn't ambition nothing, I even said to myself:  if the results are negative it doesn't make a difference to me, I felt empty inside, like I said before, I practice minimalism, and I don't desire anything material, but this feeling that I had was coming from inside, I felt dead, God made me so happy some days ago, but that happiness was gone, I think, because of the attitude I chose to have this last days.  I would pray for all of you and my family, but I found myself not praying for me at all, didn't want to.  I must say that I am happy, but at the same time I am not emotional, in other words my tears are saved for others, not for me, when something happen to others I suffer like mad, I feel this pain in my heart, but I don't do that for me, maybe is bad things that I've done in the past that in my (sick mind) I think that I should pay somehow, forgetting that Jesus paid everything already, I forgive others, but not myself, I will keep it private, but if I could go back only to fix some things, I would.  I will learn from now on to learn how not to hold resentments, talk about death, yes, I've learned and listened to what you've said, God put me here to learn from all of you, and what a lesson that was, each one of you (with different personalities) brought happiness to my life, if I had never had a biopsy I would had miss the best time of my life, you will forever be on my mind, I have each one of your names in my prayer book, and I will pray accordingly, will still be here with you and read the dates that I need to pray.  Thank you a million times for your prayers.  And, I want to say again that in good or bad times if we trust the Lord, there would always be a miracle waiting to happen.  In my case, I consider this a miracle.  Second benign biopsy in the same breast in within 4 years and a half.  God Bless you all, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 04:36PM
To: all again.
I will make more comments tomorrow, right now I am going to send an e-mail to my daughter, she must be waiting, but like we said before, is cruel not to blog, whenever we receive good or not so good diagnosis.   I will get some sleep, I look horrible, I look like I have mascara around my eyes.  snowtree, I forgot to tell you what it was:  I think she said something that sounded like fibroadenoma, remember we have a clock in there, well, she said I had a mass on 11, 12 and 1, I thought about it afterwards and though, maybe all these masses were shown together in the mammo, and it looked like a big one, I don't know, I have to go again in 6 months, because it's still suspicious, oh, and the lump that I have in the incision, she said not to worry, because it can be a small blood clot or a bruising that's still swollen, she said is not bad, not to worry.  Bye, snowtree

by JoyGirl, Sep 06, 2007 05:00PM
To: snowtree
Thank God, I am so happy.  I know how you feel when you say you still feel numb.  I was like that too and it was not til I danced to that upbeat song, like no one was watching, that I started to feel some joy again.  Try it!!!!!  I am sure you will sleep like a log tonight.  I am sure your mind has been set to ease about the thickening too.  That was my fear too, when you have this going on in your breast, you can't help but think every other ache, pain, or abnormality is a metastasis.....
You will be fine.  

by JoyGirl, Sep 06, 2007 06:50PM
To: mistyb361
Thank you for your comments.  I will check the link later after all the running around with the kids.  How did your results turn out?  How are you feeling?

by DemoNurse, Sep 06, 2007 06:56PM
To: snowtree and all
Congratulations on your results!!! I am so happy to hear that your results are negative for cancer. As I was reading in this forum I thought to myself...what if my results were cancerous? Would that be the end of the world? Isn't in life that we suffer the most? We have sisters who receive the news everyday that they have cancer...they endure so much (the diagnosis, treatments, surgeries, tests) and here I am thinking I can't endure the same. Who am I? Why is death so scary? According to the bile, there is a wonderful after life that has no sickness or suffering. Those before us and after us who will succomb to cancer are likely in a much better place. We miss their physical presence...how can we embrace their spiritual side and learn from them? I have experienced this strange calmness since I decided that prayer should be a part of my daily life  and not only in times when I am experiencing bad news or hardships. It's funny how GOD has answered some of my prayers. I needed this event to happen in my life for me to find this forum and embrace my higher power. Thanks to everyone hear...there is a wealth of knowledge, experience and spirituality here that I will not find in my daily meetings in this world. Now I have everything in one place. How lucky we are.    

by labhusky, Sep 06, 2007 08:27PM
To: Snowtree
CONGRATULATIONS, I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am going to really take it easy tonight.  In fact, Im going to take a bubble bath.  Im trying to get most of the heavier stuff done like taking out the trash, took inventory of my ice packs and they are ready.  YOU GIVE ME HOPE SNOWTREE< AGAIN IM VERY HAPPY  AND RELIEVED FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Montana girl 06, Sep 06, 2007 08:58PM
To: snowtree
Hooray! I'm so happy for you. Now I hope your other problems resolve soon, also.

by Hey Judie, Sep 06, 2007 09:24PM
To: all
Appointment with surgeon yesterday was about what I expected.I did learn that my primary Dr. ordered the biopsies so she will be the one to give me the results. For that I am certain that the moment the results are back she will call me.  my first mammo on 08/07 she called me about an hour afterwards.  The mammo and ultrasound on 08/16 call came as I was leaving the hospital and not even reached my car.  The surgeon did tell me he also will request a copy of the results and if I have not heard anything word by Friday, 9/14 I could call him.  He will be in all day.  My biopsies are scheduled for 8 AM on 9/11.  He said that the results would be back in 3 days. I expect I will go tho work the day following the procedures. I hold out hope for a light workload next week.  This week has been extremly busy. I am at a computer all day so it shouldn't be a problem physically.  But mentally, hope I can manage to keep my mind on my work.

by Hey Judie, Sep 06, 2007 09:31PM
To: snowtree
How wonderful your results have at last been positive.  It is horrible you had to agonize so long awaiting the results.  At my appointment yesterday I could not think of anything to ask the Dr other than when will I have results and who will be giving me the results. On that point, I made him promise me that I have an answer by Friday (next week).  Again, wonderful news.

by Hey Judie, Sep 06, 2007 09:45PM
To: all
Oh! I went a little crazy, carried away, whatever...I cut my hair off.  Well the hairdresser cut it, not me.   I have very, very thick hair.  The length was below my shoulders.  Over the last few months it is falling out ALOT.  Last couple of times I went for my color touch ups the stylist suggested that the stress (with my son) was the cause.  Tuesday morning I washed my hair and as usual I had a hand full of hair and gobs more washing down the drain.  I thought if it came to a point that some type of treatment would cause all my hair to fall out that that would probably cause me more depression that possibly losing a breast. So, I walked into a strange salon, sat down and told the young girl to cut it short. When she asked if I could show her something I liked from a book I told her just cut however you like.  I said I don't want to see my beautiful long hair falling out.  She pulled back her hair to show a large scar on her head and told me she had a large tumor (benign) removed. Prior to surgery she shaved a mohawk style doo.  My comment was OK cut however you like except no mohawk!  At work I have had so many compliments. One said I look 5 years youger.  Another said 10 years younger.  I received one marriage proposal and one indescent proposal, lol (***** dog, Cuban, Raul).

by Hey Judie, Sep 06, 2007 09:52PM
To: all
Sorry for the expletive!  *****

by tamknit, Sep 06, 2007 10:56PM
To: all
Sorry I have not posted for a bit.  Have been on the fast conveyor belt of treatment.  More details about me, I have my Masters of Nursing, so I am no dummy about all of this... but sometimes all of the information is just too overwhelming.  Yes, we did go to the oncologist today.  She was a dynamo, all 5 ft of her... like a whirlwind.  I really like her.  She says that things are progressing nicely.  After the double mastectomy on 9/13 (during which they will place a central IV line in my chest too), chemo should start in about 10 days after that (my birthday is 9/24).  What a great birthday gift!  Chemo will probably last 4 months, followed by 2 months of radiation and then hormonal therapy.  Most scary to me was the bone scan and CT scan to be done tomorrow, 9/7. to check for metatastis to the liver, spleen, bones, brain.  I check in at 10:45 and am done at 3:00 pm.  Then, tomorrow night, my crazy group of women friends are holding a "Goodbye to Tam's girls (boobs) party" at the local tavern.  It should be bittersweet.  
Congratulations to all on their results, esp. snowtree, the strong.
I am hanging in there.
Tammie

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 11:00PM
To: To All
I will write little bits, because I am so tired, remember I was going to sleep, I couldn't.  My 14 year old found a job, something like filling envelopes, and I took him kind of far, my 14 year old girl joined the YMCA (they call it like that now for girls too), she plays flag football and wants to join soccer, so I took her there, too.  My daughter called me from Iraq, and my 19 year old son got really happy, he also got a new job, my husband is super happy, but he says that he rather they cut my breast, so I don't have to go through all this pain and worry.  He told me something that was true, that just like some people have diabetes, nerve problems, arthritis or any other disease, that we suffer from our breast, that this is our illness, and that we will have to deal with it all our lives, he says that he doesn't understand about women worries, but that he would like to deal with it once and for all.  Food for thought.  God bless, snowtree

by JoyGirl, Sep 06, 2007 11:01PM
To: DemoNurse
I think this challenge has caused us all to step back and reevaluate our lives, our priorities, our goals and objectives in life.  I am a firm believer that we are given opportunities all through life and we can either take advantage of them or let them pass us by and then they go to someone else.  Likewise, we are faced with many challenges and the purpose of those challenges is to learn a lesson from them that we so valuably need to learn in the life here on Earth.  If we don't learn the lessons, we are given similar experiences that will teach us that same lesson.  If we continue to walk blindly and not learn the lesson, we are often slapped in the face with something that forces us into a screeching stop.  At that point, we hit our low, we are forced to see the lesson.  I will try to learn my lessons first time around!

by JoyGirl, Sep 06, 2007 11:05PM
To: DemoNurse
I just reread what I wrote and realized that I didn't make a key point.  I think that most of us have reached this place in life where we so desperately searched for a place where we could find support from others experiencing the same thing with our breast issues.  And in that, we found something so much more profound.  Wow, this place is amazing!  We were drawn here, together so that we could see the big picture.  Now we have formed friendships and reevaluated what may be most important in our lives.  Regardless of our diagnosis, we will all benefit from being a part of this forum!

by snowtree, Sep 06, 2007 11:52PM
To: Tammie
I just read your letter of bravery, if I could just make all these go away for you, I will, but I can't.  All I can do and (we) can do is pray as hard as we can for a miraculous prognosis.  Tam, you leave me speechless to see that you are such a strong woman, a real life hero.  If we would all invoke the name of God in your behalf, if we would all pray in the name of Jesus I know without a doubt that whatever outcome, it would be for your well-being.  Tammie, you know that nothing is final until God says so, if He opened the eyes of the blind and made a crippled man walk, He can cure you, if He walked in water, He can cure you.  You DON'T have a death sentence, you have a disease that COULD be curable in the year 2007.  Like I said before, my grandmother had advanced stage of cervix cancer and died 23 years later of old age, everyone in my father's family would cry for her, but she ended up living longer than some of them.  We all came with a day to be born and a day to die.  No one will die before its time.  Tam live free and light, don't worry, let us worry for you.  Worry is like a rocking chair, it's always in motion, but it never gets you anywhere.  Cast your cares on the One that cares for you.  He can be counted on to come through for us.  Tomorrow at 10:45 AM I will be praying for you wherever I am at that time, there is always a place to pray, even while doing chores or anything else, there is always a place where we can stop for a little bit and ask God for whatever we want to pray about, in this case I choose to pray for you.  We are prayer warriors, but you are the hero.  May God be with you tomorrow in the scan table, and may you come out of that room renewed.  snowtree

by HelenV, Sep 07, 2007 06:50AM
To: snowtree
What wonderful news - I am so happy for you.  I also recieved wonderful news. Doctor called on Wednesday and had the results from my surgery. Fibroadenoma completely benign.  follow up appointment on 9/11.  Good luck on 9/14, I think that's when you said you were going for a sonogram.  

by Jennyob, Sep 07, 2007 08:17AM
To: ALL
I have read everyone's coments of how they are doing after thier biopsy or before. I too was scared before my biopsy and then afterwards with the results. I thought after the surgery that everything was ok until I went back for my six month mammogram which heard very bad. I just knew things will be back to normal, but when the tech called me back and said the radiologist would like to talk with me I thought ok what now. The radiologist recommended a MRI which is today. I am really not that scared I just hate knowing I will be owing alot of money. I owe over 2,000.00 from the surgery and I keep thinking I like to get out of debt. Since January I have surgery, a car wreck, my sister died August 13th and now this. I just wanted to scream my heart out. I know the surgery said that they are just wanting to see whats going on and it is probably benign, but that is easy for him to say. IMy breat is getting smaller and they feel different. I know thats probably all in my head. I feel a lttle better after reading the comments each of you have made. So I need to get relaxed and take a deep breath and head on to get the MRI. Again enjoy reading the comments. JennyOB

by JoyGirl, Sep 07, 2007 09:08AM
To: Tamknit
It sounds like things are going pretty quickly.  I think it will be a much needed relief to have the surgery and know that you are getting that cancer out of your body.  What a difficult time this has been for you.  I am sure the additional testing has to be just as difficult.  I wish you well and will be praying for you often.

It sounds like you have a great group of friends.  How nice of them to through you a "goodbye girls" party.  Just think, in time, you will have a perfect pair that you can design!  They won't age and get saggy like the "original girls" would have!

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 09:58AM
To: Tammie
Right now is 10:30 AM.  I am praying for you, and I know that others are too.  You must be now in your scan table, but I also know that God is there with you, holding you in His arms and whispering in your ears, the words He always say:  "Don't worry", God have goodness in storage with your name on it, if only you would believe in His Son Jesus Christ.  Remember all the times that He supposedly was late for those Mighty men in the bible that believed in Him, just to found out, that He was never late, He is always on time, and just because He says No! to something we ask Him to do, that doesn't make Him late.  Remember Mary and Martha how mad they were at Jesus, because Lazarus was dying and supposedly Jesus took His time?   Well, they didn't trust in Him too much, because they doubted.  What I am trying to say is that God is never late.    Even when God says No!  He is still good and He is still the source of our next breath.  Tammie, I don't want to sound crazy to you or anybody here (but, if I do than be it), a couple of years ago on February 17, I was easting at Friday's with my husband on a saturday night, all of a sudden I got choked with a big piece of steak and I couldn't breath, I stood up and went straight to the bathroom holding my throat, my husband was in shock, and all the other people that were there (mostly teenagers didn't even noticed me, and I started to see (honest to God) little brilliant (like diamond) stars on what seemed to be a black something in the back like a (wall, sky, who knows), I fainted according to me like a few times, than would come back again, no one know how long all this took, because no one helped me, at least on this earth, than after coming back from that (not bad at all experience) I kept choking and saw this couple drinking something (it was water), listen to this:  I took the water from their table and drank it in front of everyone in the restaurant, then everyone started looking at me with amazement, but nobody cared to call the ambulance, 911, nothing, zip, my husband was drinking a lot, and I think he didn't even noticed too much, I don't blame him, but the most important part comes now:  When I drank that water, the steak went back and I was back to normal instantly, but the lady the had already finished eating got annoyed that I had taken her stupid water, (remember that she had already finished eating and drinking, because the glass had just a little bit of water, like a few sips.  In my astonisment I felt so mad at everybody there, that I took my credit card and told the couple "don't worry, I will pay for your whole meal, thanks to your  little amount of water God saved my life, not thanks to you, because you missed a great reward by your nasty attitude", they didn't accept my offer, didn't once said "oh really" or nothing, she not her companion was so much into her own stupid needs that she could'nt even save someone's life by offering them a little bit of water.  I hope to God that she would never choke, like I was choking.  What goes around comes around, and sometimes what we do to others come back to us in a much worst way or the most amazing good surprise.  I want this true story of me, to teach a lesson to All of us, a little good deed that we do to others, most of the time come back in great rewards by the giver and taker of our lives.  Tammie, I started with you and finish with all, because we should be here for all, to pray, to wish good thoughts as JoyGirl says, in other words to get into each other's shoes and feel sorry for what others are going through, out of my heart I tell you that I feel bad for everything that's happening to you right now, and I wish with all my heart that you can be heal at once.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:03AM
To: All
A prayer for someone in need can take the place of that little bit of water.

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:07AM
To: JoyGirl
Just a little note to you:  I know that you would've been the one that would've called 911 for me, the one that would had given me a whole glass of water, you seem to have a heart the size of the world.  God Bless you, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:18AM
To: Jennyob
I have something to say to you.  My breast (the one they biopsied) is a little smaller than the other, specially these last few months and my biopsy came back benign.  Is true what you say, it could be in our minds, but just for you to know.  About the money situation, I know what you mean, about getting out of debt.  We all should, but this is not your fault, so call the hospital and tell them to give you a payment plan, you put the amount not them.  That's what I do, I was debt free until this year, I owe like $10,000.00 to the hospital, they will understand, just get in contact with them.  Praying for benign results.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:23AM
To: Helen V
CONGRATULATIONS in your results, one less problem, two scratched out!!!!  What are they going to do on the 11th?  Is it only to check the breast?  I know you are going for the sonogram on the 20th, will be here for you.  You will be scratching that one out of the list, also.  Who knows, this year might turn out to be a good one after all, for all of us.  August?  maybe, lol.  We'll give August another chance to behave good, next year.  Let us know what went on on the 11th.  God Bless, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:30AM
To: Hey Judie
Thank you for wishing me well.  That's good that you remembered to ask about the day of the results.  You know, I got an idea, why not schedule a day for the results?  We'll schedule it, though, like we ask the doctor, when will our results be ready?  Then she say "in about three days", ok, give me an appointment by then, like that we don't have to agonize anymore, what do you think?  Hey Judie, I am not kidding, this waiting sucks, we are mastering this subject, aren't we?  We are going to become professionals in not wanting to wait for biopsy or any other results.  Oh, maybe in the near future, they will tell us the same day, let's hope for that, new things happen everyday, right?  Why not that one, well friend keep in touch, with your results.  Will be waiting.  May God take care of you everyday!!!!!!!!!!!!  snowtree.

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:31AM
To: all
Will write back later, tomorrow or sunday.  I have visitors tomorrow, so let me go and clean a little bit.  Yeah, not too much, not anymore, who cares.  My love goes to all.

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 12:21PM
To: Just thinking, agaaaain
If God is in control, why is my life such a mess?  Because I make it like that, as simple as that.  Either by taking in too much:  information,  responsibilities,  food, material junk into my house, purse and car, and phone calls.  And, by giving out too much:  advice, judgment, opinions, ideas,  unsolicited guidance,  not minding our own business, trying to control others, being co-dependent on others, trying to live your life through others.  (By the way, I have a so called friend that doesn't stop giving me her opinion on everything, I'm about to slap her across her face (any day, just wait and see)  I'll tell you about it.  Well, let me go on:  Think about these things, and see if they are not true.  Once again:  a little peace of my mind.  snowtree    P.S.    I'm NOT trying to be here a Little Miss Goodie Two Shoes, cause trust me I am not!!!!!!!!!!   I am learning how to be a lucid person in this crazy world of ours.    

by labhusky, Sep 07, 2007 02:40PM
To: All
I just got back from my biopsy and with a nice mocha in my hand (no suprise there).  Overall, it went just fine if not great.  My friend was with me and I met her there.  Of course I had to check in, we talked about work and stuff while I was watching people walk out from being back there.  One lady walked out and she just seemed weird to me in the way she walked out and stuff.  I said to Rebecca, "I hope I dony come out that way" and we both laughed.  They called me in.  I went to the bathroom then changed my top garb to their garb  We went into the room had me sit on a stool and very well explained to me what would be going on and what I would be feeling as it was going on.  Afterward, the dr came in to reiterate what they said and sign the consent form.

The 2 lady techs took got "everything" positioned and took the x-rays.  I did ask if those x-rays taken today looked the same as the other ones that were up there (like anything change or more? type) and they said, no.  Sounds like they were happy with the pix they got then they got the dr to do the rest.  They got that machine on which they said sounds like a sewing machine.  I didnt get novacaine, something that starts with an L canine.  Got one needle and the dr said dont move you will feel a pinch.  After a while, another injection and he said that it is going to go deeper and that Id feel a burning sensation (you know what?  I didnt).  All the while, one of the xray techs would kind of rub my back a little bit over the blanket which was really nice and comforting.  They had classical music playing (mozart) and I do like classical.  Anyway, the dr did his thing, and got 4 samples out.

Wasnt feeling a thing, I hardly even bled (I guess some people do because its just them).  Their conversation with each other was good and relaxing like a text book procedure happening the way it was suppose to.  The dr even seemed happy with the clicp or chip that he put in afterward.  Something about the end coming off very well (I dont know, something very positive).  

After he was done, the techs had me get on my back, so they could compress my breast for awhile.  That didnt hurt but that was what it was.  One tech said that that is usually the "hardest" part for the patient.  Then while one was putting the butterfly tape(?) and the gauze on which she said that they usually put on an overkill of that stuff to be on the safe side, the other tech asked if I would like orange or cranberry juice.  I opted for cranberry.  They gave me instructions; mainly no heavy lifting with the left arm for 48 hours (nice I had this done on a Friday with the weekend to rest before going back to work).  I asked if I could walk for 30 minutes tomorrow and they said yes thats fine.  I wanted to do my heavy laundry (bedding) but they said that if Id have to use my left arm, its not recommended.  I wanted to see what they took out and they showed me the "wormy stuff" and it hardly had any blood on it at all.  Maybe just a tiny bit around the edge.

While I was drinking my juice, they got my clothes out of the dressing room.  They sent me with 2 ice packs.  One I have on, the other is in the freezer right now.  They said that if I dont have the results by 2:00 Tuesday afternoon to call the drs office.

Now, I feel very happy and uplifted and Ive had a happy feeling about this since last night, and I cant explain it.  Of course till the phone call theirs a little this and that but I am feeling more positive.  I even slept better last night.  I did wake up at 2:00 but I got up, "did my thing" , went back to bed and actually slept till 7:15 when my alarm went off.  Finally slept more than 3 or 4 hours straight.  Good sign?  I'll take it.  After my alarm went off this morning, I reset it for 7:30 because Im one that doesnt like to get up right when the alarm goes off.  I like to get up slowly after being awake for awhle and I have always been that way.

I do have some soup to warm up for lunch, and tonight Im going to drive thru an El Pollo loco for dinner.  I think my breast is waking up just a little bit but it doesnt feel that bad.  I'll keep you posted and thank you all for all your heads up and support, I do appreciate it.  For what I had to go through today, it seemed like it was all done with love and caring all around.  I will keep you "abreast" of how I am doing.  I do need to grocery shop tomorrow but I will take extra care with my left side, and after I am done shopping and easily put the stuff away, I will take off the gauze after that.

by JoyGirl, Sep 07, 2007 03:16PM
To: labhusky
Glad it went well.  I was thinking of you.  It is nice that most people report that the people doing the biopsies are very pleasant and accomodating; if only the people giving the results were!
I'll pray for good results Tuesday afternoon, if not sooner!

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 09:16PM
To: labhusky
Congratulations!!!!  Thank God that everything went so well, you actually had a great experience, you see?  No need to worry.  How was that mocha?  Labhusky, that seemed like a very good hospital or clinic you went to, our prayers did work after all, I am glad that you are feeling so happy, so do I.  Let me ask you something.  Are you using both hands to type?  As long as it doesn't bother you, fine, but try not to use the left arm or hand too much, I did and it hurted a little bit.  How is your blood pressure doing?  Labhusky as you already know I am not a doctor, but I have some info. in what you were diagnosed for:  microcalcifications on 3:00 of the left breast, right? Microcalcifications appear as large white dots or dashes on a mammo, they are almost always NON CANCEROUS and require no further follow up, but please don't go with what I said, because I looked at this in the computer.  Remember I told you that I have clusters of microcalcification in my right breast since like 9 years ago? Well,  they came to a conclusion that it is a mole inside my breast.  It looks like an egg with like 7 or 8 little bubbles inside, that's the way I see it in the films.  Well, I will be waiting eagerly for the benign result on tuesday.  May God guide you and protect you throughtout this waiting.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 09:49PM
To: Tammie
I wrote to you in the morning at 10:30, now is 10:38 at night and I am anxious to know how you are doing, I won't be able to blog tomorrow, because some people are coming over, and also my children take the computer and put games all day long.  They get crazy glued to the computer on saturdays.  I'll try to squeeze myself in, though.  Tell me, are you ready for the party tomorrow?  Let us know how it went.  Details please, I'm nosy, lol.  Tammie, how is everyone in your house?  How is your Spirit doing?  Well, stand firm, with your chin up, eyes looking to the sky, do you see how much God loves you?  He cares for all of us all of the time, but when we are suffering He cares more, and does more.  Tammie, we are wonderfully made by a perfect God, He doesn't make any mistakes.  Trust me, He loves you now more than He ever has.  Be still and know that He is God.  Tammie, I say this to myself everyday, because I need to tell me this, I need to tell you, also.  God Bless, snowtree

by Jennyob, Sep 07, 2007 10:28PM
To: Snowtree
I the MRI today and it did not heard the biopsy. Thank God I had to think about my son tonight who is playing football and did not have time to feel sorry for my self. Going to his game helped me alot. I am so proud of him. WE won 34-0!!!!   Thanks you for your feed back. I will call the hospital Monday to set up a payment plan on Monday. I have not told anybody this because I was afraid . My breast in the last couple of weeks have been burning and when I press on my rt breast near my nipple it felt like a pin was sticking me and it hurt. I thought that it could be related to the ADH,the tissue that was removed after my biopsy. Well I can not worry now I have other things to think about. Again thankyou for your comment. Jennyob

by Montana girl 06, Sep 07, 2007 10:29PM
To: All
Ladies, You are all so strong. Life is crazy for me these days, back to school and unexpected company, but I really enjoy reading about the amazing support and strength you show.

snowtree and jennyob - Like you, I feel these breast problems are never-ending. You think everything is ok and they pull the rug out from under you over and over again. They used to refer to fibrocystic breast disease but took out the word "disease" because they said it isn't a disease. But, when it doesn't go away, doesn't that make it a disease? My surgeon told me I'll probably have to deal with breast problems the rest of my life...sounds like a disease to me! At the same time, I want other women to realize that NOT ALL breast problems turn into a never-ending problem. I know a number of women who had one biopsy and never had to have another. We are the exception, rather than the rule. I don't want you all to get discouraged just because some of us have continual problems.

Tammie - Enjoy your girls night out. What wonderful friends you have! Prayers arising.

Helen V - Hooray for benign fibroadenomas!

labhusky - That's a great description of a steriotactic biopsy with all the comforting details. My last biopsy was very similar. One other thing they did that I loved was bring a warm, cozy blanket straight from the blanket warmer. (That biopsy was in Jan. in the middle of a snowstorm.) There really are some wonderful people in the breast centers.

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:32PM
To: JoyGirl
Your words are so profound, you really know what you are talking about, it's true, I too want to learn my lesson first time around, but today I found myself going back into my own vomit, doing things I shouldn't do, slapping my own hands, and zippering my lips (while trying to control others), ouch!!  When I'm I going to learn to let go of the need to tell my husband and children what they should do????  I noticed something:  People like to make mistakes and learn their way, but when you think you can spare them from the consequences, how can you stay quiet?  I try, I try hard to tell myself :  "stop it, because they don't care about your advice", then I hear God saying "be STILL and know that I am God", then I hear another voice saying "go right ahead, try to fix the world", well I should start listening God's voice over any other, actually.  But, I'm learning on a daily basis to mind my own business, even though I think my husband and children are my own business, but they are individuals too.  I don't know, I'm a little sleepy and maybe I don't make sense.  Anyways, JoyGirl, please don't ever leave us, we need your input, wisdom and prayers.  MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!!!!!  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 10:45PM
To: MontanaGirl
Thank you for your concern.  Keep on posting, we miss you, I know you are busy with the students, I know is hard, but whenever you have a time, please join us again.   God Bless you, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 07, 2007 11:03PM
To: DemoNurse
What beautiful words were those.  Is true what you said 100%, why are we so scare of dying?  What is it with us, with everyone for that matter.  Do you know that when you are a Christian you never die, actually.  In a blink of an eye we'll be in His presence, than what is wrong with us?  DemoNurse, I never feared when I was waiting for my results, but why all the madness I had?  Why the weird feelings?  Why the numbness?  I don't know, but I wonder what God is thinking:  Why are they so afraid of coming to me?  Just like you said, "the afterlife is a wonderful life, no pain, no tears, no years, just eternity for eternity.  Now you put me to think, I will ponder about this, it actually gives me peace to think about such a great event.  DemoNurse, do you know that my daughter is not afraid of such a thing, she was trained by the Army to know that such an event could come at any time, I'm sad even saying this, but all you have to hear is the news, I am not in denial, as just pray to God for her everyday, and I am so blessed that she can call me on a daily basis, sometimes twice, BUT, if she doesn't then I start thinking "why doesn't she call me?"  Her fiancee is overthere too, so she is worried, also, twice, for him and for her, well so much for that.  I'm thinking about the apostles, how brave they were, and how they were willing to give their life for their faith, and I think about me, what a puny me I am.  Well my friend, thank you for caring for me and wishing me well, may all your dream come true, and may you don't have to deal with this breast foolishness anymore, snowtree

by labhusky, Sep 08, 2007 06:07PM
To: All
I just took off my bandage here.  I thought Id leave it on till I was thru running around and could be home to just relax afterward.  There is no blood on it at all.  The area looks yellowish but maybe that was a dressing of some kind and I kind of see the tape stickies on my skin.  I know I cant shower till tomorrow but is there anything I can use to get the sticky tape feeling off on the good areas?  They sure know how to tape!!!!  I am hanging in there and put my mind in the weekend mode since I know the drs office is closed, and its kind of fun to get back to life again!!!  Snowtree, I havent checked my blood pressure because Im sure its been high with all this worry that I went through.  As much as I worry sometimes ignorance is bliss.  I do feel much better today I think in that deparment because I can usually tell by how I feel.  Not exactly a pounding heart but I can feel stress itself.  I actually walked a half hour today my own pace and it felt good.  I do feel like Im back in the living!!!

by labhusky, Sep 08, 2007 06:11PM
To: All
P.S.  Looking at that yellowish area, I believe thats the butterfly tape they put on.  Its all criss-crossed like a snowflake.

by Montana girl 06, Sep 08, 2007 06:24PM
To: labhusky
It could be tape or iodine or something they used to prepare the area. Maybe you could use facial cleanser to get the sticky off as long as it is far enough away from the incision. You need to be very gentle so you don't pull the area. (maybe rub in gentle circular motion) It does sound like your stress level has improved and I'm glad to hear it.

by mistyb361, Sep 08, 2007 06:31PM
To: labhusky
Maybe using a q-tip dampened with rubbing alcohol will work.  You can avoid the incision area and know that you do not have to worry about anything dripping or needing to be wiped off afterward.

by mistyb361, Sep 08, 2007 06:34PM
To: Helen & Snowtree
YEAAA!  I am so glad your results came back negative!

by mistyb361, Sep 08, 2007 07:03PM
To: Hey Judie & All
Here's wishing you the best of luck on your biopsy Tuesday.  Mine is Monday.  I pre-registered at the hospital yesterday and had to laugh as what to expect was described to me again.  The radiologist's and the surgeon's schedules are not meshing.  The nurse explained how at 10AM the radiologist will place the wire in my breast.  The surgeon is not available until 2PM.  I had to laugh when she told me that after having the wire placed in my breast, I will be moved to a holding area until the surgeon is ready.  My mind immediately thought of these police TV shows where as criminals are coming in, they are placed in a holding area before going to jail.  I asked her why a 'holding area'?  Are they concerned that I may try to 'escape' with this wire sticking out of my breast?  Okay...The vision in my mind was much funnier than just the words alone.  
The other thing I noticed on the paperwork...No makeup(especially mascara).  Excuse me? I mentioned the no makeup to my mom.  We live in S. TX.  It is viciously hot.  I joked with her.  Here they are going to be right there by my armpit.  I can't wear deoderant, obviously. So I will be stinky and now I have to look ugly too?!  lol.  Of course, I am just kidding.  I don't feel ugly but, it was nice to laugh with my mom since I know she is worried about me too.

by mistyb361, Sep 08, 2007 08:40PM
To: All
The past couple of days have been so busy for me (which is a good thing).  Yesterday, I had so much work and still needed to make it to the hospital to pre-register since I have to sign in at 8AM Monday.  As I was driving between meetings, I found myself wondering about whether someone had their results back or someone else was having her biopsy today.  It was very interesting to realize that I was actually a little frustrated because I was not and would not have time to check this site and see how any of you were doing.  Today, after 5pm, and I am finally able to sit down, read & catch up.  Here we are...in different states, different times, different areas of our lives & different types of lives altogether, most likely, and yet, so in tune with one another's thoughts, anxieties, frustrations, mood swings, and so much more.  Absolutely amazing.  Yes, this time has made me reflect quite a bit on how things are/have been/could be.  DemoNurse, your comment about 'prayer being daily instead of just during hardships'; Joygirl, your comment on 'learning lessons'; and Snowtree, your comments on 'why life is such a mess' or 'bad times now may be because of bad things that done in the past' ring so close to home.  I know I love God and believe Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins.  I made a dedication when my son was born to raise him in a Christian manner.  I know I do not always set the best example but, I do try.  My ex left me w/ nothing monetary after our divorce & does not give me child support but, I did get the most valuable outcome of our marriage...our son.  Because I wanted my son to have the best, I went back to school, received a degree, and have been working extremely hard to get back on my feet.  What I have realized recently is that all my son needs from me is love and really good memories of the two of us together.  I feel horrible that the summer passed with hardly any of my time spent with my son.  I will never do that again.  I just left the organization I had been with, started working for myself...really started working for my son...in the right sense.  He is healthy.  I get to pick him up after school and spend time with him instead of taking him back to the office and asking him to play quietly so 'mommy' can work.  Friday morning, my best friend since 4th grade brought up that I had never seen where she lives and she has been there for 8 years.  Then another friend mentioned he was going to a college football game in the same town she lives in and mentioned Bud (my son) would probably love to see a game like that.  For just a moment, I thought there is too much I need to get done.  No way would I be able to go.  Then a light flashed.  Work will always be there, laundry, cleaning, office.  I have surgery on Monday.  God forbid the results should be positive but, what if?  What memories have I left my son with lately?  I rushed around all day yesterday, getting as much done as possible.  This morning my son and I drove 4 1/2 hours to see my best friend and watch a football game.  Along the way, I was thinking that there are a lot of things that I should have done differently but, it is too late now.  Can't go back in time.  A few moments later, we were picking up lunch at a drive-thru when my brother called.  Bud was at the start of a tantrum about something so I could not understand everything he was saying.  A little exasperated, I asked my brother to hold while I 'dealt' with Bud who was also frustrated about sitting in a car for the past 3 hours by then.  Finally, Bud was able to calm down enough to state clearly that he was hungry.  I reminded him that he has food that he asked for right in front of him.  He looked at me with a confused look and said, "I know, Mommy but, I can't eat it until we say grace".  I knew then that God was letting me know that I shouldn't even worry about the past.  Everything is okay...now.  I looked at Bud, gave him a huge smile, said grace, told him I loved him, started driving again, and then could here a really neat & knowing smile in my brother's voice, as well.  As we were nearing our destination, Bud said he really did not want to watch the game so we went straight to Suzanne's house instead of the stadium.  She had the game on the TV so we were still able to watch all the good plays and Bud keeps giving me hugs telling me how much he loves me.  Lesson learned.  Thank you God for the opportunity.
            

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 02:25AM
To: Jennyob
DONT WORRY, only because by worrying you're not going to solve a thing, the days go by really fast, and soon enough you will have your results (I'm praying for it to be benign), I am so sorry that you had to loose your sister last month, and that you had a car accident, and the biopsy in both breast, plus the atypical ductal hyperplasia (ADH), Jennyob, let me ask you a question, are you taking something for the ADH?  Does it heal by itself, or is that the reason they sent you to an MRI?  Please, let me know.  Also, there is a good thing about all these, that you are taking care of your body as best you can, you are being proactive, you are going through all this pain, but for a good cause, (your health), also ADH IS NOT CANCER, but you did good in following with your surgeon.  Well, I am praying for you, for the MRI results, let's see.  Please, let us know, we do care,  God Bless, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 02:31AM
To: Dear Tammie
WE WANT TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!  How did it go?  Did you had fun?  How many of you went to the Tavern?  Please, let us know, even if just a little, we like to know that you had fun.  I went out with my husband, and told him that you were probably having a lot of fun with your friends, you deserve all the fun in the world (according to me), please keep blogging, we like to know every detail of your life, because we love you, that's only normal.  Like I said before, I AM NOSY, what can I say, lol.  If caring for someone is being nosy, so ok, I take it.  May a million blessing come your way.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 02:32AM
To: Tam
I meant BLESSINGS, and yes A MILLION>

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 02:42AM
To: Jen P
How are you feeling?  Is your arm feeling good?  Are you anxious for the results, don't be, just trust God, think of Him, and ask Him for His will to be done, and you will be at peace, promise.  God Bless you, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 02:44AM
To: Jennyob
One more thing;  CONGRATULATIONS!!! TO YOUR SON, Great game, super great.  bye

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 03:05AM
To: mistyb361
So glad you decided to go to visit your friend.  Your son sounds like a well behaved, lovable young boy, at that age they are so innocent, and we love them so much.  Mistyb I am so happy that you like to spend time with him, you sound like a great mom, he needs you so much at that age, that you did well in getting the other job, the one that you could spend quality and quantity time with him.  Some mother say that quality counts more than quantity, and I say NO!!!!!!! really loud, on because my mother divorced my father when I was 9, and I lived with my grandparents and my mother alone, but I didn't want quality time, I just wanted quantity, because I wanted to be with her as much as possible, even though circumstances sometimes didn't allowed for us to be together, I cherish the crazy and disfunctional times I spent with her, like nights that we slept in the car, because she would get into a fight with my grandparents and stood by her rights, and told them that she was my mother, and that she could do with me whatever she wanted.  I cried and suffered for my grandparents, but never as much as if I couldn't spend time with my mother.  I use to cry myself to sleep praying to God never to take her away from me, and because of personal issues, she was always in danger, but at the end I could say that she was ALWAYS at my side.  You see what I mean?  Relax yourself until monday, if you could stay home tomorrow and just play with your son, or read the bible, watch tv, but tranquility if very important.  Remember, you don't have to worry about any pain, we got that clear before, and you are super blessed in getting the results in two days.  DemoNurse got hers right away, I hope is the same for you.  Say hi to your son, God Bless him, and God Bless you.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 03:15AM
To: Hey Judie
Are you worried?  The same thing I say to you, DONT WORRY!!!! NO stop it, right now, instead pray and give thanks to God.  Look, let us worry for you, take a break.  Worry is an insane feeling, also a thief (steals our peace and our time).  Also is a good for nothing (doesn't solve one single problem, doesn't do anything for us).  Let's leave worry alone, let worry go somewhere else, away from us.  Well, what are your plans for tuesday?  Are you taking something to relax you?  You don't even have to, because it doesn't hurt at all.  I know we always get nervous, is normal, but we all seem to like stress, so we feed on it.  Some stress is good, but not now, now you have to be quiet, rested and praying.  Well, until tuesday my friend.  We'll be praying for your prompt healing and your FAST RESULTS.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 03:17AM
To: Everyone
I'll blog tomorrow or monday, I am tired, is 4:17 AM and I'm sleepy.   Bye Bye for now, snowtree

by tamknit, Sep 09, 2007 10:10AM
To: dear ladies
Some good news, finally.... the bone scan and CT scan showed no signs of cancer.  The oncologist would still grade me a III, however at least I am not a IV.  I almost feel as if I have been cured... The party was great.  I never knew there were so many gag gifts involving breasts in my life... I received gummy boobs, boobie pills, boobie suspenders, an old hanging boobie bra, a boobie hat, boobie mugs, boobie t shirts and several others I cannot remember.  Everyone also had to wear their cleavage with pride.  I wore a VERY low cut white t shirt with a black Victorias secret WOW bra.  Since I don't have much to begin with, everyone was shocked to see that I actually can create cleavage when I need to.  I am only an A cup, maybe a B when I was breastfeeding.  The best gift I got was from a knitting friend, who made me a pair of falsies, knitted out of silk.  They are so beautiful, and they have moonstones stuffed in with the pure cashmere stuffing.  They are almost better than the real thing.  There were about 40 men and women there.  It was amazing, laughing, joking, I did not even want to cry.  My mother was a little shocked at the political incorrectness of this, (she is very old school, some would say blue blood), but she drank a shot by the end of the evening too.
Today, I am going to fill my new breast cancer pink I pod with songs for surgery and chemo.  I am feeling pretty good, all things considered.  Hope you all are well too.  Benign results for everyone else, you all can live the cancer life vicariously through moi.
Tammie

by mistyb361, Sep 09, 2007 12:05PM
To: Tamknit
Tammie, That is incredible news from your CT scan results.  Your party sounded like it must have been hilarious.  If I may suggest a couple of songs....'Just A Ride' by Jem & 'Stand' by Rascal Flatts.  You can download both for free off of projectplaylist.com.

Lyrics for Jem - Just a Ride

Life, it's ever so strange
It's so full of change
Think that you've worked it out
then BANG
Right out of the blue
Something happens to you
To throw you off course
and then you

Chorus:
(Breakdown
Yeah you breakdown
Well don't you breakdown
Listen to me
Because

It's just a ride, it's just a ride
no need to run, no need to hide
It'll take you round and round
Sometimes you're up
sometimes you're down
It's just a ride, it's just a ride
don't be scared
don't hide your eyes
It may feel so real inside
but don't forget it's just a ride)

Truth, we don't wanna hear
It's too much to take
Don't like to feel out of control
So we make our plans
Ten times a day
And when they don't go
our way we

(Chorus)

Slowly, oh so very slowly
except that
there's no getting off
So live it, just gotta go with it
coz this ride's, never gonna stop

Breakdown
Don't you breakdown
No need to breakdown
No need at all
Because

It's just a ride, it's just a ride
no need to run, no need to hide
It'll take you all around
Sometimes you're up
sometimes you're down
It's just a ride, it's just a ride
don't be scared now
dry your eyes
It may feel so real inside
but don't forget enjoy the ride  

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 01:13PM
To: Tammie
I can't write more now, cause they're waiting for me, but::    THANK YOU GOD FOR ANSWERING OUR PRAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    No Cancer, wow wow wow.  Tammie, that's it, I feel like crying of happiness, and I am not a (crier) I don't like to cry, period.  I am glad that you had such a great time, you deserve it and more, I wish you have more parties like that.  Let me thank God one more time.  Thank you God for making those scans benign.  Bye for now, snowtree

by JoyGirl, Sep 09, 2007 02:06PM
To: labhusky
The easiest thing to use is a little oil, olive oil or a little cooking oil.  It is safest and least irritating. Just rub it with a q-tip or soft cloth around the area, not over the incision.  I was able to shower the day after, with the tape/steristrips on.  No problem.
The orange discoloration is from the chlorine based antiseptic they rub on before the incision, it is died so that the doc. can see that he covered it all, it used to be clear, but docs had a hard time knowing if all the areas were sterile.  Hope that helps.

by labhusky, Sep 09, 2007 05:10PM
To: All
Thanks JoyGirl for the oil tip.  Im going to try that.  I have been sitting down and just "picking" it off.  I can hardly wait for my shower tonight.  Mistyb I really wish you well for your biop tomorrow.  I like your sense of humor about the holding area.  I was thinking of a new type of underwire bra entirely, cause I have a sick sense of humor.  What is your biopsy called, and will you be sedated all that time between 10 and 2 (sounds like Dr Pepper-here I go again)?  Hope its not a big wire.  I would go crazy, can you tell?  Im glad to hear about the bone and CT that their's no cancer Tam.  You are so brave and I hope things go smoother than you could ever imagine.  Good luck to all getting their biopsy this week.  I am nervous now because I am passed that and will know the results in a day or 2.  I was fine Saturday, then today Im kind of more nervous because tomorrow the office will open for business again.  I will be at work when they call.  Too much going thru my mind!!!

by Montana girl 06, Sep 09, 2007 05:26PM
mistyb - After they inserted my wires and said I'd be done in just a ffew minutes I remember thinking everyone would see these 2 long wires sticking up out of my shirt when I went back to the waiting room. They must have seen my surprise because they immediately told me they would clip the wires so and tape them to my chest so they wouldn't show. I'm glad to hear you can find the humor in all this. They just use a local when they insert the wires so you could probably read or listen to music or something while you wait for the surgery. Too bad they couldn't schedule it closer together.

Tammie - I'm so glad to hear your scans showed no cancer. Sounds like you have a great bunch of friends...

by maa64, Sep 09, 2007 08:06PM
To: snowtree
Sorry I haven't written. I have been so busy with two kids to deal with in soccer season. Been reading books on healing, keeping my mindset in line with what the Lord wants for us. Long life and prosperity. I go Thurs. at 12:15 for more biopsies. Yuck. So glad for your results and for Tammy's. What a relief for the both of you. I still feel as though I am hurrying up to wait. My second doctor reminds me of a big soft teddy bear. He is so gentle with his words and very caring. Also he is supposed to be the best doctor in our area. I need to check this site more regularly so I can keep up with you. Finally done that soccer program. Yes I am the ultimate soccer mom. I have the minivan to prove it!!! LOL. Don't forget to praise our Lord for great results. and keep praising. Take care I must keep up with your blogs.

by Jennyob, Sep 09, 2007 09:16PM
To: Snowtree and All
Friday I had the MRI. The Radiologist called and just left a message on the same day and said for me to call her that she has some good results for me. I can not wait to hear the good results!!   Since being diagnosed with ADH I was never put on any type of medications. Now I can keep focusing on my son and his senior year. He plays football and baseball. Now I feel so good I know that I will be able to see him graduate May 2008. THanks for all of the wonderful comments and I wish everyone else the best. May God be with you all!!   Love Jenny

by labhusky, Sep 09, 2007 09:30PM
To: Jennyob
Congratulations, I am VERY HAPPY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!  What a relief!!!!!  Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by snowtree, Sep 09, 2007 11:27PM
To: Jennyob
Congratulations!!!!!!!  You must be very happy, so am I, great news.  Of course you will be able to see your son graduate, and in the future see all your grandchildren grow up, yes you will.   The radiologist that called you deserves a standing ovation from all of us.  She must know the word compassion,  she wanted to relief you from the burden of waiting.  I would get that radiologist and give her a big bear hug.  About the grandchildren, that applies to me too, in the future when my children marry, I know (God willing) that I will see all my grandchildren as grown ups.  Well, Jennyob, what a day, I bet your son is very happy, God Bless you and your son.  Tell us the good results and soon as you get them.  Waiting.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 12:13AM
To: maa64
You don't know how happy I am that you blogged.  Glad you did the soccer program already, I bet your children are very proud of you, I am.  Also, thank God you have a good doctor now, a Teddy Bear, because the other one was a sour pus,  let's pray for her.  Maa, what are they going to biopsied on Thursday?  One or both breasts?  How is your hematoma doing?  I am so glad that you are taking us in your journey, just like you said you would, we understand that you are busy with all these, but we want to know from you, regardless.  Maa, do you still go to visit your mentor?  I bet is nice to have a person you can confide in.  Even though you know that we have Someone that we can confide on everyday of our lives, you are a very faithful woman and you know how important that is, because no one can please God without faith.  Just like you said before He is the Commander in Chief.  I thank Him everyday for taking His time to answer our prayers, He knows what He is doing, because that is the reason that He is our Creator, He created us, not us Him, He can do with us however He pleases, maa, we go to the Mountain, the Mountain doesn't come to us.  People have to understand that we ought to be in obedience to Him, I know you are, because of the way you express yourself when talking about Him, I mean He is it, nobody else.  Well, please keep on informing us,  like I said and promised before, I will pray for you, and specially this Thursday at 12:15 PM, go with God maa, He will lead.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 12:20AM
To: all
What I mean about us going to the Mountain and not the Mountain to us is:  We have to stop being proud and surrender to the Lord, because He is the giver of eternity, He gives us free will for us to come to Him (Mountain), He is respectful of that, and He (Mountain) will not come into our hearts, if we don't let Him, He knocks and we open the door of our hearts, He doesn't force Himself inside of us, if we don't allow Him, do you understand?    He is a gentleman!

by mistyb361, Sep 10, 2007 06:39AM
To: All
Okay.  I am getting ready to head out to the hospital this morning.  I ended up keeping my son with me last night so I am going to drop him off at his grandma's house this morning.  Then I am heading over to a friend's where my mom will pick me up and take me to the hospital.  I ended up cancelling the plans to stay at a male friend's home.  A lady that I just started working with and have become fast friends with said I could stay at her house.  Yea!  
Saying a prayer for all of you.  Hey Judie, best of wishes to you for Tuesday and Tam & Maa, same to you for Thursday.  Maa, Kudos for finishing the soccer program.  All on forum:  All of you are so incredible!
Alrighty then...Gotta go.  
  

by JoyGirl, Sep 10, 2007 07:38AM
To: Tamknit
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy that your scan came up clear.  What a huge relief that must be for you.  I can see where that would give you so much hope, now it is JUST breast cancer, something that has a high success rate of cure.  I will be praying for you and a successful surgery, that everything that has to come out, comes out and that the follow up treatment is just  a formality.  One of my clients had breast cancer about four years ago, that they said had metastasized from somewhere else, but they never found the source.  She is doing wonderfully after four years, they check her all the time but it is gone!  She no longer lives with that fear.
Your party sounds great, I wish we all could have been there, well, we were in spirit.  It brings a smile to my face just thinking about it.
God bless you and we are all pulling for you!

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 03:47PM
To: labhusky
Is me, you want to know something?  I still have the yellow stuff in my breast, the doctor said it was fine, normal.  The big gauze, I took it out exactly 48 hours later.  The strips, like 3 days later while taking a shower.  My biopsy was on the 27th, I took them out on the 30th, could've waited one more day, though.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 03:49PM
To: All
My comments are short today, because for no reason whatsoever I am feeling very down, sometimes I get this way, the dreaded stress, I guess, and some disappointments.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 03:53PM
To: all
My period is suppose to come tomorrow, that's why.  If it comes, I am so embarrassed to go for my sonogram of the uterus on the 14th, blood and everything, come on, that can't get more disgusting and humiliating.  Then wait for the biopsy appointment, then wait for the results all over again.  Just imagine.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 04:04PM
To: misty
Please, let us know how it all went, I am glad that you found a female friend that offered her house, wow, I am impressed with all these nice people, first of all, the radiologist called Jennyob to tell her that she had good news for her (on the same day), then you find this lady that offered you comfort in a cool dry place.  I wonder misty, you sound like a very caring person yourself, the kind that get out of her way to help people.  Well, like I tell everyone here, rest that arm.  Relax.  We are praying for excellent results and remember that God is with you, today and always.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 04:12PM
To: Labhusky
Have you heard anything yet?  Please, let us know what they said, we are here awaiting.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 04:20PM
To: Jennyob
What were the good news?  Been praying for you, can you let us know as soon as you have them, awaiting, also.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 04:26PM
To: All
While writing to you all I received very good news.  My daughter needed some papers from the doctor, she will play football for 9th grade, yesterday I got really nervous and worried, because her teacher needed the papers from this coming friday.  Today I woke up and went to her doctor, but not before writing this really nice letter, explaining why I needed the papers so fact, I wrote PLEASE and THANK YOU, I don't know how many times.  Four hours later, someone from the office called me to let me know that they were ready, not to worry, for me to pick them up on my own time, and that they knew how important those papers were to me, I am amazed.  What can I say, I feel so much better now about people, before I was loosing my hope to find anybody that cared, but between friday to now I have to keep my mouth SHUT!  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 10, 2007 04:43PM
To: JoyGirl
You are so caring, I thank God for you, I am glad that you are still here with us, with your high Spirits and your positive thinking.  You are very important to us, in that you bring wisdom and happiness to this forum.  We may not all have cancer, but we all surely care about each other a lot.  I'm thinking, " this is probably the way that Jesus wants us to behave, carrying each other's burdens".  We are all alive in a difficult time, anybody can get sick from one day to the other, who is safe?  Who can say"nothing is going to happen to me?"  Nobody, we are all so much the same, susceptible to physical and emotional pain, needy, easily broken, delicate, and waiting for the mercy of the Creator of everything.    Just THANK YOU JoyGirl.

by Jennyob, Sep 10, 2007 05:44PM
To: Snowtree and All
No cancer found. Don't ask me what else the radiologist said because I was so excited about no cancer I did not listen to anything elase she had to say except followup in six months. What a relieve!!  Tamknit I am so happy for you!

by maa64, Sep 10, 2007 07:59PM
To: Snowtree
Snowtree your faith is very uplifting. thank you. Yes God is a gentleman. How nicely put. I went to a healing service on Sat. the man preaching when you asked him how he is, he replies I am blessed and highly favored. I howled. What a great answer. One short answer that let's everyone know where you stand. He said that the problem to Christianity is that people got to get out of their own way - you know focus on Jesus. He was great. He was truly blessed. It was a 2 hour service - which I am an antsy person and didn't even know 2 hours went by. Also he sang wow people pay good money to listen to people sing and the best music is in church. Every Sun. I enjoy the music. Snowtree listen to great praise music. The devil can't stand against it. By His stripes you are healed. Fear is from our enemy. Takes our focus off of Jesus and puts it on our disease. I want to thank you Snowtree you are a great prayer warrior and if people don't see Jesus when they are with you they are blind. Keep the faith. Just repeat throughout the day I am blessed and highly favored. I just kept repeating that today. What blessings came my way. I was just so upbeat and filled. I was even offered a job at the printing co. that I had to go to for the soccer program. Wow!
I am praying for you snowtree and your family. I am so grateful for all your good reports. Just remember to keep each other in prayers.
Maa64

by Montana girl 06, Sep 10, 2007 10:13PM
Jennyob-Thanks for sharing your good news. Hooray!

misty-I'm glad you have a friend helping you out. It's amazing how people come out of the woodwork when we really need them.

by JoyGirl, Sep 10, 2007 10:51PM
To: Jennyob
Yipeeeeeee!  Happy to hear your results, and thanks for sharing with us so quickly.  It was refreshing to hear about your radiologist's phonecall.  It makes me want to call the head of your hospital's radiology dept. and praise that radiologist.  How nice to know so quickly.  What great news!  Stop back and keep us posted on how things are going for you!

by Hey Judie, Sep 11, 2007 05:49AM
To: ALL
Biopsy Day. it's 6:30 AM, I will leave for the hospital in a short while.  I am not afraid. Today there is nothing to be afraid of.  What is scarring the heck out of me, Sunday morning my 15 year old son Chris had a Grand Mal seizure.  That was awful. He was asleep and then I heard choking sounds. We called 911, I thought he was dying.  His lips were blue. At the ER, the doctor did absolutely nothing. No test, not even a look into his eyes, didn't even phyically lay a finger on him. My ex is taking him to the doctor this morning.  I wish I could take him myself. I have made a list of questions to send along.  The school bus just arrived, I forgot to call and let them know about his absense.  He is special-ed so the bus comes right to our house.  I heard a sound from him just now.  I thought in was another seizure.  I made him sleep with me night before last in my king size bed. Just like a new Mom. But I am such a light sleeper, he kept me awake until at 2:30 AM. I went to sleep on the couch finally. Well gotta go...

by maa64, Sep 11, 2007 06:39AM
To: Hey Judie
Sounds like you have alot on your plate. I'll pray for you. You are right as moms we are more concerned with our kids than ourselves. but remember to take of yourself. I don't understand why the doctor didn't look at your son, can you go to your family doctor for answers? Take care.
Is everything ok snowtree? Joygirl thanks for all the support of everyone. Thanks for hanging in there with all of us. Also did anyone ever have a mri guided biopsy? Wondering what all that entails. Already had a mri - I know what that is like just not one with a biopsy. doing both breasts. Prayers would be greatly appreciated.
Maa64

by JoyGirl, Sep 11, 2007 01:47PM
To: Hey Judie
May I suggest you dig up your old baby monitor or borrow one from a friend.  I still have mine.  That way you can hear if your son starts choking/gagging, but maybe just the simple moving around won't wake you up.  You still need to take good care of yourself, just like maa64 said.  Maybe you will sleep better with a monitor in his room, that way you can monitor the sounds without the disruptions.
Good luck with your biopsy. I am glad that you are not worried.  I know it will be OK.

by JoyGirl, Sep 11, 2007 01:56PM
To: maa64
How have you been feeling?  Is the second doctor still impressing you by being compassionate and all the things that you would expect from your doctor in this situation.  I sure hope so.  I pray that you get good care from good caring people.  You and your family are always in my prayers.
How is your family?  Does everyone know now?

by maa64, Sep 11, 2007 03:10PM
To: Joygirl
Yes my family knows but they also know that the second doctor backed off. Gave good news with no future plans of chemotherapy,etc. My oldest said thanks for telling me now that relieves a lot of stress out of my head. I am getting such good care from people. People really do rise to the occasion, we just don't see enough of that in the news do we? The doctor is still patient and kind. They really get the emotional pull of this. The other day I had problems with my insurance, bad info. from the Health center that does the mammograms, etc. they warned me my next set of mri's might not be covered. The gal at the doctor's office was upset and said why do they tell people this? it will be covered. She told me not to worry and though she didn't say it her attitude was like "like you don't have enough to worry about". The whole office gets it. They know what I am dealing with.
Also the monitor what a great idea for hey judie. Terrific. You get an atta boy for today!
Take care and thank you for your prayers.

by JoyGirl, Sep 11, 2007 04:35PM
To: maa64
I am glad your family knows.  It is hard trying to keep this a secret and having to worry about what you can say and to whom.  I am glad your oldest thanked you.  When I realized that my kids may have seen something on the computer, like my history of coming to this site or researching various other breast cancer sites, etc, I decided to tell them, even though my biopsy was negative.  I just didn't want them to worry if they saw something or overheard.  My 13 year old son asked how long it was going on and I told him about two months and that I was waiting until I had the results to tell them (I am sooo glad that I waited because they would have worried a lot and hopefully I spared them that).  Anyway, he said matter of factly, well, I would have been very mad if you wouldn't have told us.  I was surprised at his response - what wise little souls they are.
Later that day, I asked my kids to please ask any questions if they had any about what was going on with me or the tests or anything.  While I thought I did a pretty good job of explaining to them what I thought they needed to know, my 11 year old son says, "So, do you have cancer or don't you?"  I was shocked.  Their little minds get going and after I spoke to them, he spend eight hours trying to figure out if I had cancer or not.  I felt really happy that I asked them to please ask me any questions, because he may not have asked and might still be wondering.

I am so happy that your needs are being met and hopefully exceeded by your medical staff.  That is very important to your whole experience.  I am glad they are compassionate.  You deserve to be surrounded by happy, upbeat, caring, positive people.
I wish you wellness!

by maa64, Sep 11, 2007 04:43PM
To: Joygirl
I used to be a preschool director and it used to anger me when people underestimated the wisdom and knowledge of even a two year old. When 9-11-01 happened, I got really upset with the parents they kept their tv's on constantly and couldn't understand that their children were scared, upset and worried. They were getting a constant diet of the 9-11. I told them to turn off their tv's and spend time with their kids. We had a very bad week at school. Very bad. Kids understand everything. They might not quite understand but they get unnerved, upset when we do. The old saying if momma ain't happy no one's happy, holds quite true. We set the household tempo and emotion. They are sponges and we need to be careful what we feed them. They are watching me handle this.
You are very wise and wish more parents were like you.

by snowtree, Sep 11, 2007 05:12PM
To: maa64
What sweet words are those.  They surely uplift me, coming from such a woman of God (they are a blessing).  maa, today I was listening to Tony Evans, what a great preacher he is.  He talks so clearly and loves God, with such a passion.  He teaches about been appreciative, about thanking God no matter what, and about never doubting His love and tender care for us.  That everything we do and say (He sees and hears).  He is serious about us not using the name of God in vein (a lot of people do it, innocently, but is not so innocently when is written in the 10 commandments.  (You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord WILL NOT!!!!!!! acquit anyone who misuses His name), we should always use His name in a worship matter:  like to thank Him, talk about His word (the bible), worship Him or something like that.  Well, I listen to a lot of pastors and take the best of what they say, maa, I must admit that I am guilty of so many things, I know that I am saved through the blood of His Son Jesus, but I want to give a good example of what it is to be a Christian, just for the fact that I want to please Him (I know that by works we don't go to heaven), but, we never do good works until we do them because we are saved.  Well, maa, thank you again.  Did you take the job offered to you?  Great opportunity.  Also, the music you heard in church (if enjoyed) was you singing to Him, because the way I see it, God doesn't really care who is singing it, what He really cares is us thinking in Him when we are listening.  Bye for now, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 11, 2007 05:55PM
To: Jennyob
What great news!!!!!!!!  Is true what you said, when they say "no cancer", that's just what one hears, I tell you, that radiologist of yours blew my mind away.   Jenny, do you remember when they told you that it could be benign?   I looked in the computer and saw at what you had and I suspected the same thing.  Thank God for that.  Also, I wanted to ask you, how is the burning you had in your right breast?  Lately, I am having the same thing, since after the biopsy my left breast has been burning a little, but I think is because is curing itself.  How is your son taking this great news?  I know he must be ecstatic, our children become more affected than us, sometimes.  I am happy for him, also.  Well, now you know you have to stay here talking to us, lol.   We are family now.  God Bless, snowtree.

by Hey Judie, Sep 11, 2007 06:12PM
To: ALL
The biopsy went well, There was a wonderful nurse, Jeanette, who was with me the whole time, she explained everything, held my hand, and said she would call me tomorrow to see how I am feeling.  We fisrt did the ultrasound 11 o'clock position and he  marked placement for needle.  We waited for the Radiologist (Chief of Raiology) he came in and did the biopsy (vacuum type) and placed the marker chip.  They then did a mammogram to see if the marker placement was at the location of the mass that was not seen with ultrasound.  It was not so that confirmed two areas of concern and the second biopsy was necessary. This was the stereotatic biopsy. I had to lay face down on the hard table with my breast hanging through the table opening.  This procedure took much more time and hurt a little more than the first.  I heard the dr say he was going a little deeper.  When it was over the nurse told me that I had a  good sized hematoma.  I am to massage it with preasure to break it up.  Keep it iced and the such.  I am at Cleveland Clinic Florida so I decided to visit my PCP before leaving. Perfect timing as she was about to have lunch and walked out to the reception area as the receptionist was telling me I just could see the doctor for a chat.  She came right over to me and asked how it went.  I told her of the Hematoma and she prescribed pain meds and renewed my Zanax.  I asked if she would call me with the results and she said, "You know I have always called you as soon as I know and I will do the same again"  She says Thursday afternoon, Friday morning at the latest.

My feelings are mixed.  I probed the nurse, technician, and radiologist to tell me what their impression was by looking at the x-rays, ultrasound and mammogram.  They all answered your doctor will give you the results.  I said yes but what is your impression and they would not encourage me at all.

Regarding my son, Chris, the Pediatrician says that the EEG from a year ago was abnormal and it is likely epilesy.  Now I can't remenber who gave me the results last year but I was told everything was normal and there wasn't evidence of siezure activity. So I am now woking with a case manager to schedule the necessary specialists he will need to see.

I am going back to bed with my ice pack now.

by snowtree, Sep 11, 2007 07:16PM
To: Hey Judie
Let me tell you, you are a sweet heart.  So many things happening to you at once, and still, you found time to let us know how you are doing.  First of all, is very sad that all this is happening to you on the same day of your biopsy, when it rains it pours, I tell you.  Hey Judie, so sorry for what you are feeling today, I know that about now you are only worried about Chris, but you have to worry about yourself, also, don't forget to massage the hematoma and to put ice, at least the first 24 hours, don't lift anything, please.  Do you have a good relationship with your X?  I was wondering if he can give you some support throughout all these, I am worried for you.  I can imagine how hard it must be for anyone not to be able to sleep the night before the biopsy, well, I hope the xanax did help you some.  Now, on a lighter side:  How is your hair doing?  Glad you didn't get the mohawk, huh.  Oh, oh, by the way, is the marriage proposal still on?  Like to know.  Well, you are a humongous hero to me, keep the right mind set.  All my blessings to your son Chris, may he be healed completely, may his teachers serve as helpers to you and may you get the results on friday morning.  I'll be waiting for them, I'll be praying for you and your son, as you know.  God Bless, a friend in Christ.

by snowtree, Sep 11, 2007 07:39PM
To: Montana girl
So nice to hear from you, thank you for your sweet and wise comments.  How is school going?  Are those students behaving?  Is nice to know that you care for us, and that you can find time out of your tight schedule and demanding job to worry for us.  You are true blue, we can count on you, to be there with good advice and right to the point comments.  Well, I hope that you know, that we appreciate you, and that we are interested in what you have to say, like I said before, you are the friend that let other people speak and you listen, I aspire to be like you, since I am almost always the opposite, no, I don't interrupt people when they are talking, and I am not the only one talking in a two side coversation, usually the opposite, but I find myself putting my two cents worth all of the time, can I just shut up sometimes, lol.  I woke up the other day promising to myself, that I was not going to exchange my opinion with my husband and children, that I was going to let them be, ok, it lasted about 10 minutes, and I found myself at 5:20 in the morning saying to my daughter, "can you stop putting so much hair gel in your hair?  Is bad for you and my lungs.  Then, a few minutes later I told my son, "can you wash your teeth a little longer?  I don't have money for cavities.   Then, lastly, I told my oldest son, "can you stop bathing for an hour?  Is not like we can afford this water.  I mean, what is that?  I am trying to work on this, this is insanity by no other word.  Well, ok there I go again, I just want to tell everyone here that they have all electronics on and is grabbing me crazy, by look who is talking, I have the computer on, don't I.  Lost case,  keep on blogging.  God Bless, snowtree

by Hey Judie, Sep 11, 2007 08:53PM
To: snowtree
I told the guy who proposed he needed lots of money and only then I would consider it.lol. And yes I have a good relationship with the X but his girlfried is about to hear my two cents.  For some reason the boys Medicaid is inactive.  I spent this afternoon with the caseworker reapplying.  Now understand both boys receive SSI due to their disabilities so Medicaid is automatically a given. Anyway I didn't have their SSN's so I call the X for that infomation and I could hear the girlfriend complaining in the backgroud...why is she calling you...can't she leave you alone a minute... he responded if she had the numbers she wouldn't be asking for them.  I mean I respect that he has a new relationship and a new baby to add, but this girl needs to realize that his prior children arn't going to disappear and therefore neither am I.  Now if it turns out that I have cancer, I will be leaning on him more than ever.   I hope it won't put a strain on our relationship but I will need his help.  I have no one else locally to help.

by Hey Judie, Sep 11, 2007 08:54PM
To: joygirl

by Hey Judie, Sep 11, 2007 09:02PM
To: joygirl
Yes that is a great idea. I will look at second hand stores for a baby monitor. Maybe my oldest son will come for a visit this weekend and bring me theirs.  Oh my, I need to call him.  I had a message earlier on my cell but the battery was about to die.  I will do that right now.

by Montana girl 06, Sep 11, 2007 10:11PM
Judie - Sorry to hear about your son's seizure. I sure hope you can get the help you need. I'll pray for good results on your biopsy.

Snowtree - School is fine, just busy. I have 18 children, 3 with special needs. One is autistic, 1 is in diapers, and 1 has only a 2 min. attention span, but ability to learn if I can keep her attention long enough. The last one (a girl) lines up with the wrong class, is out of her desk regularly, and really has trouble following through on tasks. My room is a 3-ring circus with specialists in and out all day... There is always another adult voice speaking to someone, so it's never quiet and relaxed. But, they're a good bunch of kids, very lovable and sweet. Tonight was Parent Night and only 8 out of 18 sets of parents showed up. How sad.

by mistyb361, Sep 12, 2007 12:02AM
To: All
About to fall asleep but, just wanted to check in first. Hey Judie, glad to hear your biopsy went well. Sorry to hear about your son's health issues.
Should get my results tomorrow.

by Hey Judie, Sep 12, 2007 07:25AM
To: Montana girl 06
As a parent of an autistic child, I can attest to the fact that I always have good intentions to attend functions at my  son's school.  Most year's with the exception of a few I attended open house with my son, Chris.  On the otherhand I can't always be there for my other son, Daniel. As the boys age differs by just 11 months.  This year the boys are both in High school.  After meeting in Chris' classrom to meet his new teachers this year, I went to visit one of  Daniels' classroom teachers. As she described the boy she beleived to be my son, I told her no I don't think thats my Daniel you have in mind. She insisted, that she was speaking of my son, telling me his ambition in life is to be a chef.  I said no, he tells me he wants to be a race car driver (i pray for my life each time he is at the wheel,lol).  Well at home I asked him about that class and he said , "Yeah, she is a cool teacher" and he told me he is interested to be a chef.  I am so glad I made the to visit to that one teacher. Daniel suffers from depression and lacks interest in school.  It is uplifting to know this teacher is making a difference in his life. I SALUTE TEACHERS.  THANK YOU.

by snowtree, Sep 12, 2007 06:54PM
To: Hey Judie
You surely have your hands full, but I tell you something, the more troubles you have, the more God helps you.  Hey Judie, I don't have the same problems that you have, but I have different ones, I have 4 children that keep me busy, even in the middle of the night, because my 19 year old son goes out at least 4 or 5 times a week, and he comes home like at 4:30 AM, he doesn't do anything bad, he goes and play recquetball with his friends, I don't understand why they have to choose the middle of the night to play, but I know them all and they are good kids, one of them have a baby and is married, but his wife lives in South Carolina with her parents, they are not divorced, though.  The other just finish High School and lives with his mother and step father, he is a Christian.  My son works as a personal trainer sometimes, and works in a vitamin store sometimes, he pays for his car, and registered to go to college in January, he is a little "the black sheep of the family", I must admit, but he has a lot of good things about him, that only I see, and a friend that I have that adores him.   He is a little wild and I would like for him to be a Christian young man, I am praying for him, I mean, he believes in the Lord Jesus Christ, but he doesn't follow Him.  He tells me things that worry me, after he finish all these foolishness with the 14 year old and the court, he is dating 6 girls, (not having sex according to him), I don't want to judge him, but I am not innocent either, I tell him that the streets are bad and that aids is killing young men his age, by thousands, but he keeps on telling me that he is not stupid, sometimes I don't want to hear a lot, but still, he likes to tell me his problems, and I have to hear him, my husband had enough with him, and being the man my husband is, he doesn't let anyone, (including his son) play with his head.  Well, Hey Judie, sorry that I had to take this all out of me, before I blow up.  Thanks for listening.   How is your son Chris doing today?  I am glad that you have a good relationship with your X (not your X girlfriend or wife), is difficult, I understand, but try to not tell him nothing bad about her, if I was you I would ignore her completely, that hurts more, he would understand who is the good one here, because she probably tells him bad things about you, then he can compare.  Save those two cents for you, is worth it (at the end).  Ignore, Ignore, Ignore, is all good, good for you in all aspects.  Your blood pressure will stay low, you don't need high blood pressure now, and also the heart gets all worked up, so leave "IT" (meaning her) alone.  Your sons and your health are most important now.  Let us know the results of the biopsy, please!  Good thoughts sent your way, snowtree

by ziggy123, Sep 12, 2007 06:58PM
To: Montana Girl 06
I did not know that you were a special needs teacher. You are very special yourself to dedicate yourself this way. I admire you. I have my school's parent night tomorrow evening. It is interesting in that my lower grade parents all show up, and as you go up to the higher grade levels, fewer and fewer parents attend. I am guilty of that myself. As my kids got older, I stopped attending the back to school nights.
PS I had my cardiologist appt today and he said my echo looked fine. That is good and I was able to relax a bit. He thinks that all of my irregular crazy beating heart is related to anxiety issues...oh really???????? Seriously, he is very kind. I could easlily have a crush on him.

by snowtree, Sep 12, 2007 07:16PM
To: Montana girl
How special you are, and how special your class is.  You have the chance to help 3 needed kids, with special needs, how hard that must be.  I tell you, I would never be able to be a teacher, I don't know, but the patience that one needs is not there ( in me), too bad that I have to work on that.  I admire all teachers, just as I said once, you get an A+ in my report card.  I went to my twins' High School opening night and so did my husband, I was amazed at how the teachers showed so much enthusiasm.  Was a little let down when the biology teacher mentioned a few kids that were already behaving bad, when the other parents left, my husband was in my other twins' class, I took advantage and asked the teacher "if my son was one of those kids" and he told me "yes", that everything was fine, as long as he wasn't with his girlfriend, talking and wasting his time, I felt embarrassed, plus sad at the same time, because on that day I thought I had cancer of the breast, since they hadn't answered me from the hospital, so I felt like telling him to please give him some slack, but something held me back.  Today he got a detention from the same teacher.  Well, so much from that.  Anyways, congratulations for being an inspiration to those 18 children and to us.  God Bless you, snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 12, 2007 07:23PM
To: mistyb
Praying for great results, let us know as soon as possible.  snowtree

by labhusky, Sep 12, 2007 07:41PM
To: ALL
Sweethearts, help me.  I do have ductal carcinoma situ.  Its considered pre cancerous at this stage but he said something about it being high nuclear grade which is aggresive (aggressive)?  I am going to call the surgeon tomorrow for an appointment.  I am scared.  He also mentioned tamoxifan

by snowtree, Sep 12, 2007 07:51PM
To: ziggy123
I am very glad that you echo looked fine.  Congratulations!! One less thing to worry about.  Ziggy, one thing that you said once, always stayed in my mind, remember when you said that once an area was radiated, it cannot be radiated again?  I learned that one with you, thank you for the info.  I know you went through a lumpectomy, and I am glad you didn't have to get chemo or radiation, also, that you didn't have to intake Tamoxifen.  By the way, how are your children?  How is your stress doing?  I know that with 5 children you have to have a bad case of stress, I mean, give me a break, you are a champion.  Thank God the month of August went away, huh.  What a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Ever since my dear grandmother died on August 18, 2001, I had enough of that month.  Well, nice hearing that your echo went good, keep in touch.  snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 12, 2007 08:57PM
To: Labhusky
First of all I am going to tell you what I found out about this condition:  Ductal Carcinoma In Situ (DCIS), also known as intraductal carcinoma is developed in the nipple.  Great (extremely) high cure rate when detected early.  Great treatments available.  The MediFocus Guidebook on DCIS contains info. that is vital to anyone who has been diagnosed with this condition.  Comprehensive overview, treatment options, new developments, and doctors, hospitals, research centers are only a few things you can take advantage of while reading this guidebook.  Labhusky, please, ask your surgeon before reading this book, but if you want to order it, the phone is:  1-800-965-3002  HARD COPY is $29.95. and ELECTRONIC is $19.95  It has 98 pages and was updated on May, 2007.  Listen, how is your blood pressure doing?  Please, remember"EVEN IF IS HARD", try not to worry, (you are stronger than you think you are)  #1  You can depend on us for support,  #2  We will pray for you  # 3  I bet your family and friends will be there, as well,  #4  This is a very curable disease.  Please, Labhusky trust God, trust that He will be with you along the way.  Also, you can ask ziggy123, because she had DCIS a year ago.  She will be able to inform you of her experience and treatment.  I know today is too soon for everything, that you are overwhelmed, I wish I could make this thing go away, but I can't, God can, though, please pray for His will in this situation, pray for Him to give you wisdom, and to open doors, to completely take away your stress, I know that I will be praying for that for you.  So long my friend.  Snowtree

by snowtree, Sep 12, 2007 09:09PM
To: Labhusky
I don't believe in coincidence, that's why I think that it was not by coincidence that ziggy wrote a comment (TODAY), she sounds like a sweet heart, I know that she will tell you everything she knows, we are here for that, "to help each other", when one doesn't know something then the other does.  We are like mini doctors with a big heart.  snowtree

by labhusky, Sep 12, 2007 10:04PM
To: All
Got back from a walk about a half an hour ago.  That felt good at least and I wanted to start walking again anyway.  Heck of a way to start BUT starting is important.  I have next week off as vacation from work.  I got the call tonight after I got home from work.  I sat down.  I must be at stage zero right now and that must be good.  Whatever any of you can tell me of your experiences Id sure appreciate it.  All my dr did was quote odds and gave me treatment options but he isnt the surgeon, he is the gynecologist.  I am not going into work tomorrow I just dont think I could handle it.  I have to be by myself, ok with my dog.  Gotta make that call to Dr Surgeon at 8:30.  I would like to know too if a lumpectomy would be an out patient thing, how sore and how long does the soreness last.  I am healing pretty good at the biopsy sight.  I havent been "sore" since last night and as fas as soreness went, its not like a puncture wound.  Not all that tape has come off yet.  I think only one strip has.  I think they said to let it come off on its own.  I will keep you informed, I of course am scared stiff.  I have a friend that had this when she was 42, but I dont think she went for surgery.  It was all radiation.  I cant bring myself to tell my mom yet till I know more.  You know what I mean?  She will be upset and I have to get a handle on myself before I tell her.  This is a nightmare at least to me but maybe and I do say maybe, this is very light in comparison to others.

by mistyb361, Sep 13, 2007 12:10AM
To: All
My results came in benign.
Labhusky, I will be praying for you.  As far as the soreness from a lumpectomy goes, my experience from this ordeal has been minimal.  The part that has affected me the most has been from the anesthesia.  Monday, when I came out of surgery, I felt fine.  Immediately from the hospital, I went to  fill my prescription.  I was on the phone with a friend when all of a sudden I almost passed out.  My mom saw my face turn green as I started to fall back.  She grabbed me at the waist and leaned me over a stack of water bottles.  The next day when I woke up, my friend that I am staying with said when my mom dropped me off, I could barely walk or talk and I looked white as a ghost.  They put me straight to bed.  Tuesday, I took hydrocodone and rested in a fog all day.  Today, I had so much work to catch up on.  I was not in pain so I was really surprised to find myself almost passing out again just from walking around.  I laid down and slept for 3 1/2 hours.  When I woke up, I was finally able to shower.  I took the bandage off and was a little surprised to see how long the incision was.  2 inches.  Geez.  During surgery, the dr saw what was causing the calcium deposits and cut it out.  It was the size of a quarter and the thickness of a finger.  All in all, though, I would much rather have these spells due to anesthesia than be in a lot of pain.  Something that I have done, though, is placed my arm in different positions as I am resting so I would not be afraid to move it later.  I have had it over my head, on a pillow, and down by my side.  I hope this helps you.          

by JoyGirl, Sep 13, 2007 12:42AM
To: mistyb361
I believe those dizzy spells are all a side effect of the anesthesia.  A friend just had a surgery and his doctor told him that it could take up to six months for the drugs to get out of his system.  He feels that his body has not been the same since the surgery but that it is all a result of the drugs and is very positive that all will be fine once it all gets out of his system.  I am sure your symptoms will ease up quickly.  Be careful these next few days, always be aware that you could have a dizzy spell until this wears off a little more.  Know that this is temporary and you will be so much better soon.  
I am so glad that you got the results and that they are benign.  Hooray!!!!

by JoyGirl, Sep 13, 2007 01:00AM
To: Labhusky
So sorry to hear the diagnosis but it sounds very encouraging and treatable. The fact that it is "pre-cancerous" would lead me to believe that even if it is an aggressive form that it is VERY treatable.  

I am glad that you are taking tomorrow off.  You need to take time for yourself and gather your thoughts and get some answers.  I will pray that you can get in quickly and the surgeon will be able to get you in quick and answer all your questions.  Make a list of questions so that it is easier to get everything addressed.

Enjoy your day with your dog.  I am assuming a lab-husky mix?  I have lab, love her to death.
I know that you must be scared.  I was just thinking of something that might help you deal with all of this on an emotional level.  There is a technique that involves tapping on acupuncture points that is really fast and effective on letting go of fear and anxiety.  Fear is one of the most crippling emotions.  If you are interested in checking it out, visit www.emofree.com and there is a list of practitioners around the world who use it.  Many practitioners do this over the phone if there is not one close to you.
I am glad that you got out and went for your walk.  Hopefully you will be able to get a nice long relaxing walk in tomorrow and will be able to spend time sorting things out.  I know it must be very challenging.  I hope that you feel refreshed and empowered to face that which is to come.  I know you will get through this and we will all be here for you!

by maa64, Sep 13, 2007 06:21AM
To: All
Hey prayer warriors could use prayers today. I go for my biopsies today at 12:15 they said it could take up to 3 to 5 hours. Please pray. thanks must run my son to preschool.Thanks

by HelenV, Sep 13, 2007 07:13AM
To: snowtree; all

by HelenV, Sep 13, 2007 07:17AM
To: snowtree; all
Went for my follow up appointment on 9/11.  Dr. said everything is fine.  they didn't find anything funky anywhere - completely benign. Just needed another prescription for the anitbiotics.  Still red around incision.   Don't have to go back for another mammograph for 1 year and since I was there made my appoint for Sept/08.

Snowtree:  will be praying for you tormorrow.  You have your sonogram right?  

Maa64:  praying for you today.

by JoyGirl, Sep 13, 2007 11:58AM
To: maa64
You and your family are in my prayers all day  I am praying for good news!  Let us know how it went.

by mistyb361, Sep 13, 2007 12:24PM
To: All
Wow.  Feeling much better today.  Really have not experienced much pain at all since the surgery.  The anesthesia was still working it's way out of my system.  I am under 5' tall and only 91#'s, though. Something that I wanted to share, though.  The doctors and nurses at the hospital where my biopsy took place were awesome.  I did have a long day because the surgery room was backlogged, but I felt very much at ease knowing I was in good hands.  The radiologist who placed the wire in my breast has a daughter who has gone to school with my son from pre-k through their present grade of first.  She was so compassionate when she walked in.  She rubbed my back as she explained the procedure and then was so gentle as she placed everything.  Then I discovered that the nurse that was actually scheduled to be in surgery with me is a friend of mine.  Because of the backlog, though, another nurse ended up with my case.  She told everybody I was a good friend, though, so everyone that walked in joked with me that they were 'told they better treat me very well'.  All in all, it was nice to know that the people taking care of us really are caring, compassionate, funny people just like us.  It is unfortunate that there are a few out there that become robotic but, I am going to pray that for any future procedures you may face, you only encounter caregivers as kind as the ones I had.    

by labhusky, Sep 13, 2007 04:21PM
To: ALL
Need to update you, so get ready for a novel here.  Called into work and got the rest of this week off thank goodness because emotionally right now, I just have to go thru the little spasms of tears I get now and then.  I called my friend Rebecca at work and told her.  She seems very upbeat and glad to hear its stage 0.  She is a retired CPO (E7) and she barked out, "Keep your spirits up." twice,  Its funny to hear that military snap and she does it so naturally-makes me laugh.  I told her to go ahead and tell some people there and that I will be off till after next week since I booked a vacation before I knew the results.

I then called the surgeon.  At first there was an answering machine but I persisted and got thru to Gloria.  I kind of like the way she sounded and she was very thorough in checking to see if my dr sent this that or the other thing including the referral.  She didnt have it but checked her computer and I was there so she could book me an appointment.  There was a cancellation for 9/19 @ 2:15 so thats when I go.  She then said that I needed to get all the xrays and such that I had done to bring them with me.  She said that the place I had the biop has a courrier and to call them and tell them to give it to them.  I called that place and they said that it would take a week and a half but that I could get them.  I asked if I could come in today and do it and they said yes.

The race is on.  I called Gloria and told her what they said and if I could bring them today, she said sure.  Not a hassle to get them, put them in the car and of course back to the coffee cart this time for a cappuccino.  I stopped off and got a greek salad, went home to put the salad in the fridge, drink my coffee, and go to my "new" doctor.

Okay, I have been tearing up all day, and as I was headed there, the tears just streamed.  I got their ok, parked, got into the building and went into the restroom to compose myself.  Wasnt too great but I finally went into the little office there with the stuff.  Gloria was there and asked me if I was allright.  She said something about knowing how hard it is but that Im in the right place.  She asked me if I wanted to take home the paper work or fill it out there.  There was no one in the waiting room so I decided to fill it out there and sit down awhile (so much paper work).  She took my insurance card, and I.D. and did her thing.  Gosh, some of the questions were how much coffee, tea, cola, and chocolate do you consume.  On the chocolate part, I put down too much.  They ask how much stress are you going through now?  I put, alot.  They take it one step further, how much stress have you been under 3-4 months ago.  Again, I put alot because thats when my mom was going thru her medical stuff.

The waiting room is kind of pretty, roses  material on the chairs, and some pictures of roses and flowers.  On the wall this is painted on:  THE EYE OF AN EAGLE THE HEART OF A LION THE HAND OF A WOMAN their was the word surgeon but I think it was underneath that quote.

I left in feeling good that the initial part is all taken care of and I dont have to worry about getting that done or filling out the paper work 15 minutes early before the appt, so that is good.  I left a little calmer, went home enjoyed my salad and now am trying to take it easy.  

JoyGirl thanks for that referral for anxiety because I am the anxiety poster child.  There is one woman in San Diego here that also works with Sharp hospital and she offers a free mini session.  I think her name was Eloise.  I will keep her in mind.  I dont feel like making anymore appointments today, I just need some quiet time.  Also, your right about my dog.  He is a mix and is 14.  He doesnt look it but can be arthritic in the back part.  I give him stuff thru that with a syringe.  Its like a shooter.  He weighs 72 pounds so I put 70 pounds worth of medicine in it, open his mouth and give it to him, then he gets a "cookie" so it doesnt traumatize him at all.  I give it to him every couple of days.  He is spunky in spirit though, very stubborn!!!

Later All.

by tamknit, Sep 13, 2007 05:58PM
To: All,
Well tomorrow is the day.  I'm saying a final goodbye to the "girls" tonight, then will be abit thinner tomorrow.  Always did covet that lean willowy look, now I will have it.  I did not wear a bra all day today, decided to give them a final day of freedom after 30 years of bondage.  Little do they know what tomorrow holds.  I met with the surgeon on Wed.  She is amazing.  We sat and talked and cried for an hour.  She is usually a trauma surgeon, however as a favor to my husband, who thinks she is God's gift to surgery, (this coming from a fellow surgeon, himself), she is doing my surgery.  She will do the left affected breast first, followed by node removal on the left, then the right unaffected breast, then she will break while they section that tissue, to see if there is any as yet unseen cancer in there, then she will take a sample of nodes on the right too.  Then, she will put in my central line (portacath) for IV chemo, so I won't have to be stuck a million times.  According to my husband, she booked the OR for 6 hours, which seems long to me, but he says she is just being prudent.  He will be pacing in the waiting room, a totally unfamiliar thing for him.  I'm sure he will try to bribe his way into pre and post op, but the nurses have warned him not to even try.  He'll be wearing scrubs and his lucky hat... he looks like Mc Dreamy, just a short, bald version.
After the surgery, I start chemo in 10 days.  It's going to be a long year, but it will be life changing I'm sure.  I'm trying to find the higher meaning in this, maybe I will go back to Cancer nursing, it was my first love, right after I graduated from school.  
Right now I'm living in Valium City most of the day.  5mg in the morning, another 5mg at night, I don't feel any guilt at all.  My kids are at soccer practice, my husband took them, and plans to tell them on the way about the surgery only.  The rest will come later, when they have a chance to digest that part.  My little 5 year old gave me a bear from Build a Bear, which is dressed in a pink bathrobe and when you squeeze the arm, it says, "Goodnight mom, love you mom" in her little voice.  She and my husband went to buy it, she thinks it is an early birthday gift.  She'll know different tonight.  I don't know how I will face them after they know, without crying... I need lots of strength.
Oh right... Valium City is only a step away.
Thats all for now.
Congratulations on the benign results and the precancerous ones.... together we can handle anything.
Be well,
Tammie

by labhusky, Sep 13, 2007 06:08PM
To: Tammie
Good Luck to You!!!!!  You are so brave, my prayers are with you all!!!!

by Jennyob, Sep 13, 2007 06:51PM
To: Snowtree and All
The burning is coming and going, but I am dealing with that. My son is ok with this. His mind is all on football. We had a scare with him these last couple of days. His left calf was very tight and his foot was going numb, they were thinking it was a blood clot , but with xrays it turned out to be a deep bruse. He will be going to the orthopedic tommorrow so the dr can release  him to play football tommorrow. He doesn't understand why he has to have a dr's permission to play. He is on first string and the team depends on him. I told him they are just being cautious. I put my problems aside and concentrate only on him. He is my only living child and I think I over protect him alot. My first child died right after birth so he is all I got besides my husband. Well I wish everyone well. Jenny

by boninclyde, Sep 13, 2007 09:19PM
To: tamknit
I will be thinking about you tomorrow. I am sure you will do well with the surgery. I am a little further along than you. Had my masectomy August 25, 2006. Invasive DCIS 0.9mm, grade 3, no lymph node involvement,  PR+, ER+, HER2-, onco score 21. Did not have to have chemo. Now on tamoxifen. Going soon for my reconstruction. Be sure to keep a file (your on copies) of all your medical visit, test etc. It is good to have your on copy for future reading/use. I would get second opinions on all biopies and treatment at every stage of your journey no matter how much you trust the doctor. We are so much stronger than we realize. You will get through this. I wish you well.

by JoyGirl, Sep 13, 2007 10:35PM
To: tamknit
Our prayers are with you!  I know it will be hard to face your kids.  That was one of my biggest fears.  You will get through it and I am sure your husband will do a great job prepping them.  It won't be easy for him either.  Try to relax your standards and just do what has to be done.  Put yourself first for now, it is OK for you to do this.  Your family will work together to keep things moving along.  You will all get through this together and there will be many lessons in it for all.  Yours go without saying, your family will learn a lot too, your husband will truly see what it is like in the waiting room and what those on the other side of the doors are going through.  I wish you didn't have to go through this right now.  I will pray for your healing and the strength to face all that is to come.  
What type of chemo will you get?  What drug?  How often and for how long?
Bye for now, "see" you after surgery when you are feeling up to it.

by ziggy123, Sep 14, 2007 01:43AM
To: Tamknit
My prayers are with you!

by maa64, Sep 14, 2007 06:21AM
To: Tamknit
I am praying for you! Take care. I will pray for your family. Try to focus on what you do have - that's what I do as I go through this nightmare. You have a wonderful supportive husband who loves you - and that my dear is more than most. Take care. Going to pray for you right now.

by Hey Judie, Sep 14, 2007 06:46AM
To: ALL
Just a quick post before I'm off to work.  I received my results early yesterday. BENIGN!! It was hard to believe after all the worry, how quickly, the word NORMAL brought it all to an end. After reading what some of you are having to go through, I feel guilty to reveal my good news. My prayers include all of you. Take care.
Judie

by snowtree, Sep 14, 2007 09:37AM
To: You All
I want to say that you are the best friends I've ever had for the last 46 years.  I'll miss each one of you in a special way.  Did I say each one of you?  That's right.  With all my regrets I am leaving this forum for a long while, due to the fact that I've been suffering from this massive headaches, nauseas and vomiting when I wake up.  They are really bad, I spotted like what seems to be a swollen vain, in the right side of my head (close to the forehead), don't know what it it.  I went like about 4 months ago to the eye doctor and she sent me new prescriptions and did a special test, to see if there was something going on inside my head, she didn't find anything, lol.  I can't read books (including the bible), read messages in the computer, without paying the consequences the next morning.  I noticed that I am a little sadder then ever, I seem to withdraw a lot from things that I love and liked, including my family, I think really hard, worry about everyone and try to find a solution to everything.  The waiting for the biopsy results did take a toll on me, after all.  I left me a little numb, I don't know what's happening to me, and I can't even read about it.  My husband tells me that he talks to me sometimes, and that I am absent minded, my mother calls and I don't want to answer the phone.  Please, don't think depression, because one knows when she is depressed, is a different feeling, I feel as if something weird is going to happen, like I'm always expecting something, maybe is everything that I've gone through this year.  But no, I don't like to put the word depression everytime that one feels sad or withdrawed.  Anyways, I want to tell you that I read each one of your blogs, slowly and thought about each one of them, as if you were writing it to me in a special letter.  You guys are very important to me, today and tomorrow I'll go for my next headache and nausea, but I will write each one of your names, dates of biopsies, mastectomy, sonograms, mammos and every procedure you are worried about, and I will put it in my prayer book, because I don't want to think, that just because I can't read anymore, that I don't care anymore.  I have a word, I am not a lier, I believe there's a God 100% of the time, I believe His Son is Jesus 100% of the time, and I believe in the Holy Spirit, and I will be praying for each one of you, each of your problems to the God that I believe in, in His Son's name for all of you, please, never think that I forgot you, because I won't, I know each one of you and your personalities, and I like them all.  You are the most truthful, honest people I've ever known, this was a time of no back stabbing, no rolling eyes, no hypocrisy.  It was just sincerety, that's why all of you were worth each headache I had, but now I must stop.  If if the future I feel better, I will come back again.  So long and God Bless, a friend in Christ.

by HelenV, Sep 14, 2007 11:39AM
To: snowtree
Very sad to read you will be going, but I do understand.  I also felt very much the way you do when my troubles first started, didn't want to talk to anyone, see anyone, read or do much of anything.  I do feel better now but still worry about the ovarian cyst situation which I hope and pray will be okay. Will be thinking and praying for you to get better soon and to come back and fill us in on what you are doing.  I will post updates just in case you "pop in".  All the best to you and your family.

by mistyb361, Sep 14, 2007 12:35PM
To: Tammie
You and your family are in my prayers today.  I am currently working on a women's event where speakers share their stories of overcoming trials and tribulations.  I pulled out a folder I had kept from a class I once took in college.  It is filled with poems and short stories written by women as they went through life changes.  Here is a relevant poem included in this compilation written by Karen Brodine and titled 'May 1986':

'May 1986'

Here, on that new strange plain
where my left breast is no longer
where the angry scar blanches out
to a thin reminder
Here, my heart is closer now
to my lover's ear, listening
to the sun lazing its warm palm
on my pale skin, closer now
to the traffic blare
to shouts of street people
to the rasp of each day,
the rough, practical tones.
My heart is closer now.
Hear its steady, stubborn drum.

                   -by Karen Brodine

So, Tam, as your children lay their head against you, you can tell them that now, your heart is that much closer to them.  
We, as women, are so strong and I just know you will be fine.  Feel free to cry because, that, while some see as a sign of weakness, is actually one of the incredible strengths women have over men.  We allow ourselves to grieve which helps us heal.  Just remember, if you can cry, you can live.  So cry and we will cry with you...And we will rejoice in life with you, as well.    

by JoyGirl, Sep 14, 2007 08:33PM
To: snowtree
You have been a great friend and I wish you all of life's very best.  Please feel free to come back.  I will check back periodically, too. You have taken the time to read and respond to everyone on this forum. You are a very generous woman.  You should be very proud of yourself and your family.  You have been there for all of us and coming to the computer to read your posts was a great inspiration for me.  Take time now to reinvest in yourself and rekindle your relationship with your family.  You deserve it.  I will pray for you.  Keep your face toward the sunshine!   Love to you, Joygirl

by Montana girl 06, Sep 14, 2007 10:20PM
I'm actually a 1st grade teacher. But, they put 3 out of 4 special needs children in my room so the OT, Speech, Resource teacher and monitor would only have to schedule time with 1 first grade teacher. (The 4th child spends most of his day in a self-contained special ed room but is listed on a 1st grade roster and goes with them to Opening, lunch, music, etc.) This morning I attended the funeral of my husband's uncle who lived in an institution for most of his life. It was a beautiful funeral and really dwelled on how God made Butchie special and unique and a blessing to us all. As I drove back to school after the funeral  I really felt a deeper connection to my 3 special needs students and a desire to make a difference in their life. I'm also guardian for my sister who has Down's Syndrome.  She is quite high functioning, lives in an apartment by herself (with support from the local workshop), and is a grand manipulator! I'm surrounded! Special needs children and adults are some of the most loving people I have ever met, so I'm surrounded by love. (with the exception of my sister who only loves me when she gets what she wants...)

Tamknit - I'm so glad your McDreamy will be nearby for you. You won't get this message until you've recovered from surgery, but you were on my prayer list for today. I pray for an uneventful and speedy recovery.

ziggy - It's nice to have scientific proof that there is nothing wrong with your heart. Anxiety certainly isn't fun, but at least you can get on with your other health issues. Have you scheduled your 6 month appointment?

mistyb - What did the surgeon mean by saying he found what was causing the calcifications? I'd sure like them to find out what's causing mine! I'm so glad to hear your results are benign and hopefully they stopped the problem.

labhusky - Sorry to hear of your DCIS diagnosis. I hope you can get all of your questions answered. Tears are theraputic. I hope you don't feel bad about tearing up. I will keep you in my prayers. Remember the cure rate for DCIS is high!

HelenV - So glad everything turned out ok with your biopsy. We need those benign reports to encourage others.

Snowtree - I have no idea how you keep up with everyone's problems on this thread. You are so concerned about all the others here. Now, we're concerned about you. I hope you find out what's causing these problems and will join us again, soon. I will pray for you.

by maa64, Sep 15, 2007 09:22AM
To: Snowtree & Montana girl
snow tree I too wondered how you could keep up with everyone. You are a gift to everyone around you sweet heart. My prayers are with you. God bless you. I am gonna miss you something terrible. You provided a strength for me that I didn't have for myself. Thank you. Please blog sometime, to let us know how you are doing. Maybe someone could check out this site and read this to you. Be good to yourself. You are a woman of such faith. I am praying for your healing and will continue. You were here for each one of us and now that you need us, I for one will be here for you. Bless you.

Montana girl, you asked about the microcalcifications - my friend told me that if they are estrogen driven which mine are - soy is good idea to take out of your diet. Start reading labels. Soy is in everything. I can't believe that after one year (i get yearly to the date mammograms) so many microcalcifications showed up. It makes me angry because I did all the right things with yearly mammograms, breast checks etc. And yet these grew in me so quickly.

Labhusky - After a month of doctor appts., tests, etc. my new doctor told me that they had to check the right breast and I started crying yet again, and he said that is okay. It is so emotional, he said the cancer society did a documentary or movie about breast cancer and it was titled - And then you cry. This is the first week I have made it through without crying daily. Then I read about Tammy and snowtree and then I started again. Cancer is just so heartbreaking and so personal.

To all - thank you for your prayers - they mean so much to me. This blog lets me get out so many feelings. I will get results on Wed.
Take care.

by maa64, Sep 15, 2007 09:29AM
To: Boninclyde
Why did you wait to have reconstruction? Just wondering - why didn't they do it right away? If you don't mind me asking - sorry if I am out of line for asking. I am not questioning your doctor's advice but wondering why some get reconstruction done right away and some wait. Is it a doctor's choice, woman's choice, or if some things dictate that? If anyone has any information, please let me know.
Thanks maa

by boninclyde, Sep 15, 2007 10:28AM
To: maa64
Hey maa64. Don't worry about asking personal questions trust me I have asked so many of my on to other ladies. Some very personal. For me, I was in such shock. I just wanted to make sure they got all the cancer and to make sure there was not an immediate reoccurance. Alot of ladies cancers seem to re-appear within the first year. Another step in your journey where you have to weigh your options again. Some wait because of radiation and chemo can cause infections/complications with breast implants and the implants have to be removed. Some say you get better results if you wait. If they do both breast that is when you get your best results. Did I miss your results?  So hard to keep up. It is strange we normally only get to have 30 responses on this forum but here we have hundreds.

by maa64, Sep 15, 2007 12:01PM
To: boninclyde
I get results on Wed. Are you getting implants (saline) or are you opting for taking fat from other parts of the body and reconstructing?
thanks

by boninclyde, Sep 15, 2007 01:07PM
To: maa64
I will get the expander put in first and then in about 4-6 months go for the permanent. I haven't chosen yet between silicone or saline. Surgeon says we will decided together when we see what results we get from the expander. Stay positive. I know the waiting is hard.

by boninclyde, Sep 15, 2007 01:08PM
To: all
Just wondering if anyone else here has a my space.

by mistyb361, Sep 15, 2007 05:56PM
To: Montana
The surgeon found a 'growth' in my breast which he removed.  When he told me, I asked him if it looked cancerous and he said 'no but, it still should not have been growing'.  I trust his judgement.  Of course, the results did come back benign and I remember the pathologist saying something about the tissue & that I need to make sure that I have frequent mammograms and that I use a clinic that has digital mammograms.  I can not remember why I need to do this (actually probably because I have dense breasts, but he said something else, too)...I was just so relieved when I heard the word benign.  I am sure the surgeon will tell me when I go in to see him in a few days.  I will also ask him to explain what he removed, as well.  He told me right out of surgery so my head was not quite out of the fog from anesthesia.  

by mistyb361, Sep 15, 2007 06:03PM
To: Snowtree
You will definitely be missed.  I enjoyed reading your blogs whether you were sharing about yourself, your family, information that we could use, or reminding the us to keep our faith in God strong.  I appreciate that you were always here.  Take care and remember that we will always care about you, too.

by labhusky, Sep 15, 2007 11:01PM
To: Snowtree
I will miss you and I also have a feeling that you will pop in from time to time.  I appreciated your words of comfort as I am a real new comer here.  I hope you get to feeling better soon.  Go out and do something nice for yourself; pamper yourself a bit and heres to hoping to see your name in the future.

Im doing a little better here.  It still comes in waves but not as long and not as heavy.  The thing I am dreading now is telling my mom and should I tell her with her diabetes and all?  And my half brother who is flakey perhaps not totally his fault.  He had a TBI in 2003 when he was t-boned driving on the job.  He was in a coma for 6 weeks.  Luckily at he doesnt take RX but has some tingling nerve damage in his left leg and his cognitive skills are not the best.  If I ask him a question, their are alot of uhhhhhs.  I can walk away and he is still trying to process up there.

In a way, I cant wait till Wed to get the ball rolling and in a way I can wait because Im scared.  All normal I know.  Thursday I have a facial and a mini massage planned so I should focus on that.  Was that great timing or what?

by JoyGirl, Sep 16, 2007 04:18PM
To: Labhusky
It sounds like you are doing pretty well.  I am glad you have the facial and massage planned.  You should plan another, too.  I think doing something to pamper yourself will be very helpful to your recovery.
I think it is good to tell your mom at this point but only you know her and her situation.  I think it would be hard to keep it from her.  Does she live in close proximity to you?  If so, I think it would be harder not to tell her.  As a mom myself, I know I would want my kids to tell me.  The fact that it is "precancerous" and sounds very treatable will make it easier for you.  Make sure to stress all those positive factors to her and if you are afraid of upsetting her, you don't have to share all your fears with her, you can share them with us.  Just my thoughts for now and what I would do if I imagine myself in your shoes.  Well, I am extremely sleep deprived, my son has pneumonia and I was in the ER all night with my mom, we suspected a possible heart attack, it turned out fine, then they did x-rays and found something on her lunc, sent her for a CT scan and it turned out to be an arthritic spur on her spine, just looked like it was in her lung on the x-ray.  So, all is well, just tired...
I'll keep you in my prayers.

by labhusky, Sep 16, 2007 06:13PM
To: JoyGirl
Thank you for the advice.  Yes, my mom is 15 minutes away and I take her grocery shopping every weekend.  I will tell her but not until sometime after at least the first Dr visit.  Im kind of feeling better about my dx but it sure is an inconvenience to say the least, and it makes me feel so much for Tammy and people like her with similar issues.  A bit overwhelming!!!

I certainly hope and pray your son is recovering well from that nasty ailment, and with all the anxiety with your mom Im sure you were both relieved at that dx and are ABLE to sleep.  That is a blessing!!  I have been doing better at that myself.  Plus getting out and walking everyday I think helps me too.  Did 2.5 miles today again.  Nothing like something like this to kick one in the rear to get them moving again and really appreciating being able to do it.  I have been wanting to join a Y with a personal trainer too.  

This "little" experience makes me want to get out and live alot more.  I have been such a recluse all my life and now I just want to get this out of the way and run the other way.