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http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/03/obama-says-beheading-videos-wont-intimate-us/20956276/?icid=maing-grid7|maing18|dl1|sec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D524369

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/03/biden-well-follow-terrorists-to-gates-of-hell/20956718/?icid=maing-grid7|maing18|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D524369

I don't know where to go with this.  I like what these two guys are saying and it sounds big and tough.  I mean, it kind of looks like we are going about this all by our lonesome.  (Not so new...)  Where are the other countries and where do they stand on the humanitarian efforts, the womens rights efforts and not to mention the beheadings?  
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There we have it the first "Blame Bush" is out there. Well done Mickey.

Talking Point alert..."But fox puts on duck dynasty star who says we need to convert them or kill them (sound like isis?), and narry a word!!!!!!"
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brice, I suspect mikes rants were directed to me, but then again it's difficult to discern between the message and the insults.
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How did he get from------

"We will not be intimidated," the president said. "Their horrific acts only unite us as a country and stiffen our resolve to take the fight against these terrorists."


To--------
"we can continue to shrink ISIL's sphere of influence, its effectiveness, its financing, its military capabilities to the point where it is a manageable problem."
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I think he was addressing someone else there.


LOL, degrade and destroy is making them manageable no? But if there is one of those vermin left, you KNOW they will throw all those words back at him again!!!! Damned if he does and damned if he dont comes to mind.  But other than the media ***** machine, I think most common sense people got what the man was saying.   lol, I really do!!!!

Its getting ridiculous, last week it was the line I dont have a strategy, which was the theme of the week until this one.....

But fox puts on duck dynasty star who says we need to convert them or kill them (sound like isis?), and narry a word!!!!!!
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"Our objective is clear and that is to degrade and destroy ISIL so it is no longer a threat,"  Later he said that he wanted to make them a "manageable problem"....  Not sure what that means but it sounds like he pulled out of the "degrade and destroy" mission.

This is what drives me crazy with politicians.  As you jump on board, they change the direction of the boat....
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Are you addressing me?
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" and join the ranks"
For some reason lemmings come to mind.
I completely agree a coalition is needed..
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Yes it is, but we are not allowed to talk about that. This is a direct result of our own making. These people are a spin off of al quaida....We leave and another springs eternal.....And that will always be the case which is why I support the efforts to build an international coalition to take this on. I think the president is doing exactly the right thing and I agree with Mike. You would think, at times such as these that people would lay their partisan politics aside and join the ranks of being united as a nation and standing together.....


But NOOOOO, this is an election year and that is WAAAAY more important.
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And I honestly believe that you're delusional.
This is the Bush legacy and that is patently clear.
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I agree with the authors premise.

We certainly don't need continued wishy-washy leadership. As I no longer have any respect for our presidents leadership (at a 40% approval rating obviously I'm not alone) neither does the rest of the world.

IMO many of the current world events are a direct result of the presidents failure in foreign affairs.
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Of course you'd see it that way.
It suits your selfish opportunistic motives as it does all of the republican detractors. Why would you support the President and clothe him with a sense of a unified front when you can debase him and emasculate him on the global stage - well maybe not you but your republican ilk. I think opportunistic creeps like Peter King  and his buddies should be seen for what they are - disloyal treasonous political hacks. How can they scream and cry about what a real threat ISIS is and then work so hard to deme grate our President thereby mitigating his credibility on the world stage? It's easy to take pot shots at Obama when no one throwing the stones has one idea about what should be done.
I am disgusted by this nonsense. If ISIS Is really a serious threat then we should support our President 100%. Anything else is just stupid!
Grow up and wise up!
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His interest lies more with the upcoming elections than the american people and their safety.

Sure they do, which would explain why he is meeting with nato as we speak.......

Our objective is clear and that is to degrade and destroy ISIL so it is no longer a threat,” he said.

Yeppers! I heard him say that just this morning, in response to the most recent beheading that had been verified overnight.......

degrade and destroy to its no longer a threat being the operative words imo.... or do you think they can totally be exterminated? every single one?

“We know that if we are joined by the international community, we can continue to shrink ISIL’s sphere of influence, its effectiveness, its military capability to the point where it is a manageable problem.”
Making ISIS a “manageable problem” sounds like a far cry from destroying it.?

again....degrade and destroy to its no longer a threat being the operative words imo.... or do you think they can totally be exterminated? every single one?


The political word games are getting old....Obama could go and land a nuclear bomb on them and his critics would scream that he didnt land 2 or 3....

Is anyone else upset that the media is giving these idiots a platform to further their fundraising and recruitment off of all in the name of ratings? Or is it just me?

I also heard about 500 brits and 100 of our own have used their passports to go join these nuts and have free access to come and go. I think that needs to be the first thing addressed. But is that just me?
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Once again he just made us look weak with the backpedaling.--as usual, all politics. His interest lies more with the upcoming elections than the american people and their safety.

".At first, the president offered what seemed to be an unambiguous goal.  “The bottom line is this:  Our objective is clear and that is to degrade and destroy ISIL so it is no longer a threat,” he said.
That would be an expansion of what the president and top White House officials have said previously.  They have steadfastly avoided saying the goal of U.S. policy is the destruction of ISIS, instead citing more modest objectives:  protecting Americans, protecting Iraqi infrastructure, stopping a humanitarian disaster, etc.
But when ABC News Radio White House correspondent Ann Compton today asked the president to clarify whether the United States now wants ISIS destroyed, the president seemed to significantly backtrack.
“Our objective is to make sure they aren’t an ongoing threat to the region,” he said.
Then, in response to another question, he seemed to backtrack even further:  “We know that if we are joined by the international community, we can continue to shrink ISIL’s sphere of influence, its effectiveness, its military capability to the point where it is a manageable problem.”
Making ISIS a “manageable problem” sounds like a far cry from destroying it.?
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Obama is doing the nato thing right now trying to build up a coalition for this very thing. He also wants congress in on the decision making on this. One thing for sure is it will not happen overnight and we will be looking at quite a few years down the road on this venture. I hear that ISIL has about half of Iraq and half of Syria as well.

If you can get past all the rhetoric and media ratings games and listen to the individual players instead of the interpretations of what is said, its pretty clear things are being done. I still want the individual that used the knife on our guys to be found and dealt with asap. Im sure they are aware of who he is by now and plotting his demise. (I hope)

Obama wants nato to arm the people and provide humanitarian effort and aid in training as well from what I heard him say from Eustania this am.
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