You want a race issue?

[Vance2335]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/06/rutgers-faculty-protest-condoleezza-rice-as-commencement-speaker/

Well here you go, liberals upset at a powerful black woman. Dems war on blacks, and war on women.

[mikesimon]

Yep - he sure wasn't.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Vance2335]

Then why has he stayed the course?

[brice1967]

Heck, he didn't need to be on board.... everyone else in his administration was.

[mikesimon]

Obama wasn't on board with Iraq so I guess on that issue he was smarter than a whole lot of democrats and ALL of the republicans.
Give the devil his due why don'tcha!

[brice1967]

And to think that there were so many democrats on board with the Iraq invasion....

http://americablog.com/2013/03/in-memoriam-the-iraq-war-how-they-voted-in-the-senate-why-you-should-care.html

Its of no importance now however, since they've changed their minds on the subject.  They've "evolved".......  

[Vance2335]

The horse is dead why is she trying to beat it more? Oh that's right because Obama is such a blunder she has to take the zombies minds off him.

[mikesimon]

"Could people have just been wrong about what was presented to them?  Could she have believed what she was saying but it turned to be wrong?"

I suppose that's possible and though I do not believe that is the case I am not absolutely certain of it. I do know with certainty that the Iraq War was a terrible strategic blunder and it resulted in the destabilization of the Middle East and that should definitely have been foreseen. Just look at Iran now and it's clear that removing Saddam freed Iran to engage in all matter of mishief.

I know you're not a Rachel Maddow fan but you might want to check her out tonight at 9pm on MSNBC. She's doing a documentary titled "Why Did We Do It?". It attempts to sort through the decision making process the got us into Iraq.

For the record, I want to say that I rarely watch her show. It's not that I don't like her but I usually am doing something else at 9 pm. I will record tonight's show because I just might learn something. I want to see what evidence, if any, she has that I haven't seen.

[specialmom]

I just wanted to say this because I can't stop myself.  The 'lying' us into war thing . . .   well.   Could people have just been wrong about what was presented to them?  Could she have believed what she was saying but it turned to be wrong?  Sinister plotting to take us to war does not ring true to me but rather a grave error in judgment.  

I think it is unfair to protest her speaking when she had an accomplished career and rose to a very high level.  I don't think it was about race or gender but indeed about her politics and the role she played while in office. but I feel accusing her of lying unless there is absolute proof and protesting her ability to speak to our young people to encourage them to rise in their careers is unfortunate.  

[mikesimon]

Yeah, you better watch that stuff. They say it's not real good for you.

[Vance2335]

Kool-aid by the gallons.

[mikesimon]

Maybe not. But I don't equate defending a accused person with lying us into a war which cost us thousands of lives and trillions in treasure.
I can see how you would though.

[Vance2335]

Then maybe just maybe race had nothng to do with the DOJ vote yesterday.

[mikesimon]

Maybe - just maybe it's not about her gender or about her race.

{....The resolution said Rutgers should not honor Rice because of her role in the war in Iraq and the Bush administration’s policy of "enhanced interrogation techniques," such as waterboarding, the report said.

"Condoleezza Rice ... played a prominent role in the administration’s effort to mislead the American people about the presence of weapons of mass destruction," the faculty resolution said.....}