what's te odds of going crazy

[armira]

i want to know whats the odds of a  person with depression,anxiety,panic attack,agoraphobia and personality disorder just goes insanity.im terrified that im gonna lose my mind.i feel im losing touch with reality.im feeling nervous all the time,i cant tolerate anyone,just wanna be alone in my own pain that im feeling because of those problems,i feel like not belong here and not recognizing my family or myself.i hate this life with all my heart.i just want to know what's the reason of a person who was healthy, goes crazy??

[nursegirl6572]

I've already told you that you're not crazy.  That's a common fear.

So, instead of us focusing on talking you down from your latest "what if", let's talk about the positive!  About you getting help!  I'm not sure if you ever answered on your other thread...I had told you to make a doctor's appointment, also asked you about your access to books.  Go back and reread my post.

You have to start somewhere.  You have to help yourself.  I can give you all the encouragement in the world, and tell you how I was exactly like you, but if you don't start TRYING, things aren't going to change.

[armira]

i bought a book of Norman Vincente Peale for self confidence maybe it'll help me,and i called my doc he says''im to busy but ok u can come during this week and wait for a turn ''maybe i'll go this week :( but i dont know how to tell my mum that i really should go and she need to be with me,because i never cant go anywhere alone :( but oh God im so scared that im going crazy :'( i feel so bad and all the time im closed in myself to try understanding this reality and what's going on with me.im so stressful all the time,and i think every moment im going to explode .
the world doesn't need me im just surplus person and i really don't belong here.i swear this reality its killing me.i can't go on anymore

[nursegirl6572]

Well, I'm just sad to see that those positive thoughts you had the other day have just vanished.  You went from being so relieved to hear my story, and empowered, right back to hopeless.  I KNOW it's hard, and you are severely stuck in your negative thoughts, but you have to do something...I cannot stress that enough.  SHOW your Mom these threads here...she'll she that you desperately need help.  Whatever you need to do, make it happen.  YOU have to help yourself, no one can do that for you...YOU have to try.  That's really the bottom line.

[armira]

i made an appointment for saturday and told my mom i should go seek help and she is  supporting me .maybe its my first step of asking for help.plz is you know what's the reason of a person goes crazy.plz i want to know the truth because im scared so much for myself .im feeling terrified for this fact im scared i just started to lose my mind.i've seen so much people that were normal and went crazy,this its hurting me ''what if i 'll be like them''?

[RainLover71]

Well done you made the appointment,so proud of you & you will see that the situation will improve without a doubt.You have been so brave & the help is out there.Don't be afraid,you are not crazy at all.

[nursegirl6572]

The "what iff'ing" is the anxiety/panic.  People with panic attacks always have one a few different inherent "fears"...the big ones are...the fear of dying, the fear of going crazy, the fear of losing control.  I wouldn't lie to you, look it up.  Research panic disorder, you will see I'm telling you the truth.  If you were "crazy" as in something like schizophrenia, you would most likely be unaware that something was wrong.  Gues what MY biggest fear was?  Yep!  You guessed it, going crazy!  I was convinced I would spend my life in a mental institution, drugged up in a padded room.  I'm dead serious.  I was petrified of that.  Once I learned it was just part of the disorder, I felt so much better!

YOU ARE NOT CRAZY and will never be!!!

I'm SOOOOOO proud of you for making that HUGE first step, and for talking to your Mom!  That's awesome!  Now, you just have to try to go into this with an open mind....you have to be willing to tey what the doctor and therapist recommends.

Saturday is a new beginning for you, honey.  I can't wait to hear all about it...be sure to let us know how it went.

[4Maddie44]

You are so consumed with yourself, you forget most of us here have suffered as you do.  I don't always feel I can cope, but I come on this forum, and I read other people's problems, and I reply if I think I have something to say.

Yes I know you are suffering, but you are not alone.  Please understand you have depression.  It is an illness.  It does not mean you are crazy.  Try and think of others who are suffering like you at this moment.  

You go on about how hard life is for you, and I sympathise.  Unfortunately depression takes everything away from us.  Remember we have been there.  We have, and we do, suffer too.  

It is all depression.  You can get better with medication.  

[armira]

Oh my GOdness im feeling terrible right now .its late here and i cant sleep because last night i had a nightmare and i was at point of dyeing because i couldnt breath and im not quite sleping tonight,its my worst night:'( i feel weird and confused so im exploding:'( i really dont know what the hell its wrong with me,i never felt this way,im so bad i cant breath  and my heart its beating so fast and i have a milions stupid thoughts running in my head and i feel horible:'''''(whats going on with me right now,am i going crazy or passing away or having a panic attack,i just have no a idea what to do.grrrrrrrrrrr i hate myself ohhh why i am still living here?i just wanna die quickly and stop all my suffer in my heart :'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''((((((((

[nursegirl6572]

Panic attack hon...it will pass.

If you can't stand it, go to the ER, they will help you.

[RainLover71]

You need meds for these type of episodes.They will help calm you.Please get the meds you require to stop & assist with such panic attacks.

[4Maddie44]

You and a young girl Laiba are so alike in your thoughts.  Have you been in contact with each other?  I think you may be able to help each other through this difficult episode.

Remember depression is full of negative thoughts.  Please listen to the advice given to you by these caring people on the forum.  

We all want to help you.  Remember that, and I know it is difficult, but you must also try to help yourself.  I have had depression  for many, many years, and I said I cannot go on so many times.  I am still here.  I do reach out and try to help myself.  Sometimes I cannot do it, but eventually I do.

There are times I have hated myself, we all do.  It is the illness talking, remember that.  Please, please try to look to the future.  You are young, I am old.  Your life is ahead of you.  If you get the right treatment, I promise you, things will begin to get better.  I know, because it has happened to me.  Think of all the things you will miss if you look at life so negatively.  With the right medication you will survive to live a full life.  I know right now you are saying that is impossible.  But it isn't.

[nursegirl6572]

I hope you're feeling better today.  You have your appointment coming up this Saturday correct?  You HAVE to get help.  This is not going to go away on its own....and you're just stuck spinning in cicrcles in the trap of negative self talk.

Look forward to that appointment...it will be a new beginning!

[armira]

thank you all for your advice you are giving to me.today i was in the same situation and same feelings,but during nights im having nightmare and while im sleeping its like my brain its wake up but my body still sleeping and its like kind of shock because i want to open my eyes and just get out but i can't ,i just start breath like crazy,i may seeing death in those moments. i dont know if that's panic in my dreams or anything else i just know that im gonna die while im sleeping and its so hard to take force to open my eyes and  make my body move to wake up.does panic attack makes this kind of mare or if i'll not wake up at last moment will i die?

[nursegirl6572]

You will not die.  While a panic attack is terrifying, it can not harm you.  NO ONE has ever died from a panic attack, you are not going to be the first.

Also, a dream cannot kill you.  If you fall off a cliff and see yourself die in a dream, you will not die...just wake up extremely scared.

Your appointment is Saturday, right?

[armira]

yes its Saturday and i really  cant wait because i have enough from this illness:'(  
and about my dreams i mean its not them fault,but if my mom or brothers dont wake me up after they listened me breathing so deeply ,could i die ?because i cant make my body move and wake up from sleeping.i feel like i have 1 million kilos in me.i know its that process because my brain its awake and feel everything around me but i cant move even a finger,the only possibility its to breath and do noises to try to make other listen me and know that its something wrong.than my mum touch and shake me till i open my eyes and get out of sleepy .this didnt happen everynight but i guess only when im stressed or nervous.is there a chance to die?

[RainLover71]

No you are not going to die.Calm down please--where are the meds that will stop the panic? Has your doctor even given you any lately.It will make all the difference in the world.Meds can stop these panic attacks & help you do more active things,be more social aswell.

[nursegirl6572]

No, you will not die, I promise.  It sounds a lot like "sleep paralysis" which is when you start to become aware of your surroundings,but feel you cannot move, control your body, etc.  While it is scary, it is not harmful.  

Since this is the first time you are going to the doctor, start writing the important things down that are important for the doctor to know, including the sleep issues.

You will be so glad you went for help. It will take some time, but relief is coming hon. Hopefully the doctor will give you some anti-anxiety meds to use in the event of a panic attack.  They are very helpful!

[armira]

my friends i was for my appointment.i couldn't wait to seek help so i went.i was not quite all the time, i couldn't speak because i start crying and grumble while telling him for my overdose and my attempt of suicide,and told him everything,he was listening me and saying ''it  will pass and you will get a normal life''(i know those are only his tale for making me feel good),than he diagnosed me  with ''obsessive personality disorder'' and described me some meds like  Fluoxetine 20mg,Demetrin 10 mg,Olanzapina(Zalasta) 5 mg.i told him that the first of two meds i took before and didn't help me but he said ''its ok,im giving you the lower dose''. i asked him if i can go crazy and be insane but he said ''people be crazy because they have inherited that illness and its in their DNA ,i didn't believe him!! or should i? can that be true?????????

[armira]

i rode the symptoms or that disorder and i don't think i comply with that kind of  disorder ,,i don't know maybe im wrong,but he should said i have something more than only that disorder,maybe a deep depression with panic attack,anxiety and what ever :(

[nursegirl6572]

Yes, that's true, mental illness is believed to be genetic in nature, however, that doesn't mean that if a person has a familial history of some kind of mental illness, that they, too will get it.  The causes of mental illnesses are all theories, because due to tyhe subjective nature of the assessment, it is difficult to study psychiatric disorders.  It's not like your doctor can order a blood test and tell you you have X, Y, or Z.

Try to think a little more positively, you took that first step and sought help, that's great.  You are being so resistant to any suggestion, that's not the best way to handle this.  Start turning your thinking around...say to yourself, frequently, these medications WILL help me.  You may not believe it at first, but keep reinforcing those positive thoughts, rather than the negative ones.  You have to give this a try.  Did your doc order any kind of therapy?  If he didn't, next time you see him, tell him you would like to be seen by a therapist too.   When do you go back to see him?

Today was a great step forward.  Don't undo this accomplishment by thinking nothing is going to work...or by not having some faith in the doctor,  He's there to help you.  You should even just feel a little bit better because you got a lot off your chest.

Keep us updated!  I'm proud of you for following through!

[armira]

i tried to  du my first step,but you see :S nothing from that symptoms of ''obsessive personality disorder ''compare with my symptoms i have,i swear i never needed to plan my activity for a minute,or im never preoccupied with rules,lists or anything like that,,,,no one of those symptoms i dont have i swear...im angry at doc oh Goddddddddddddddd...i was  crying and telling him for my un recognizing my family,my self or anything in this world,my agoraphobia and all my problems and he said ''its your anxiety''.i rode and found this''Olanzapine (Zyprexa®) is a drug that is licensed to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. When combined with the antidepressant fluoxetine (Prozac®), it is also approved to treat bipolar depression'' ........and blahhhhhhh he diagnosed me with that kind of illness that its NOT my illness ,,,,ohhh i better can diagnose myself  than he  did..

[4Maddie44]

I am so sorry the appointment with the doctor was so disappointing.  You were so hoping he would help you.  

You say you have diagnosed your own illness.  What is it you think you have?  Is it depression?  You obviously do not agree with your doctor, and I am so sorry.  Are you not going to take any of the medication he prescribed?  

Perhaps you could see another doctor, if there is one.  He/she may come up with a different diagnosis.  

Poor you, so wanting help.

[armira]

I really dont have a idea what to do.that doctor i visited yestirday its the best here and maybe you will not believe me but i waited about 6 hours to see him,and he dissapoint me...i thing i have deep depression,dereality,depersonality(but not obsessive dpersonality disorder),agoraphobia,panic attack and anxiety disorder.about meds,i took those last night,but that zyprexia its new med for me because before i took fluoxetine and demetrin.today i feel so dizzy,weak,dry mouth,and soooo sleepy.u said zyprexa made ur friend feel like a monster!...should i take it or just get off????

[armira]

Yes i tried to ask for help,but what i found"only dissapoint" its really  sad to know that nobody can help you even a best doctor here in my country:n( i really feel so hopeless..btw i thanlk you so much for writeing me and spending your time for me.thank you